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adebayo201: After reading from page 800+, this is my conclusion....

coogar=the interviewee
raumdeuter=the interviewer
nairaland=the interview



as them one person they throw the questions, another they answer... o ga oh!!!

don't mind these lads.....
they are using the same expectation of chelsea to judge stoke fc - how's that possible.

have you seen those clubs that avoided relegation on the last day of the league? see how they encroach the pitch & celebrate with their players like they won the world cup & you would see united fans just sitting down at OT sipping their coffee after landing another title. to them, it's their birthright. nothing to be too excited about, it's just another successful season.

the expectations differ!

ephee: How soon should a single mum reveal her status in a relationship that wunt end up dissapointing the man.
Is it at the very start of the relationship or towards the time the man is seriously in love and wants to take the relationship to the next level?

Your honest opinions please!

you don't have to start telling every tom, dïck & emeka about your status. to the men you don't want in your life, keep mum.

to the ones you think you like, tell them when they are doing the wooing. he can decide then if he likes your status or not.

raumdeuter: Did Wengers employers blame him for not winning a trophy? or didnt he have funding issues?

so arsenal directors would have expected wenger to lose to birmingham in that carling cup final? are you saying wenger's excuse was lack of funds? oh i forgot, the birmingham team that murdered them was full of world class players & it was built with £1 billion.

raumdeuter: Hindick spent just 4 months in the league. Thats your success story?

yep - he steadied chelsea's ship when they could have easily sunk into mediocrity like moyes did man utd. roman wanted to keep him with a mouth-watering contract but he couldn't leave the job he was doing then. as far as legendary managers go in the PL, hiddink would be in the top 3

came in with a fanfare, left on a high.

Or Martinez whose Wigan was relegated? Magath side was relegated forget he had only 3 months on the job he is branded a failure, Martinez side was relegated he is a success

and the chairman blamed the relegation on himself & not on martinez. was martinez sacked at wigan? his chairman loves him to death. go & read about what transpired when everton came for martinez. lack of funds screwed wigan up, not that martinez was mediocre. he had kept them in the premier league for several seasons when they were destined to relegate.

Dadehmola: Was del bosque actually sacked at madrid?

when you offer a manager the role of a technical adviser with the intention of bringing another man to do the manager job, what do you call that? that's systematic sacking.....they knew he wouldn't take such offer & they refused to renew his contract.


if they thought he's valuable, why decline to renew his contract? del bosque went to besiktas from there & he still performed below expectation and got the axe again.

dopeJemi: Coogar! Don't you think fergie should have been sacked during the season he went trophyless?

which time was that? it's not about trophies - it's about what the agreement was with his employers, the expectations & the results. no chairman would expect hull or stoke to win any trophy. they would have their own little expected targets......if the manager meets that expectation then he's done well. if he exceeds the expectation, then he's done excellently. if he performs below it then he gets sacked.

Wasn't he a failure also? If he had been sacked, would we have experienced such glories? Do you know the glory those managers would have brought to their respective club if they weren't sacked?

this is not voodoo or witchcraft. fergie was able to convince his employers. he was able to demonstrate a high dose of confidence that he could take the club higher. how's he a failure? if a manager tells his employers he needs 5 years to work out a plan to take the club from mediocrity to glory - why would they sack him?

it's all about plan & agreement. however, you find out that isn't the case with the sacked managers. they promise heaven & hell. they throw money at everything & when they fail, they get sacked. look at mancini....how did he fail to win the 2012/13 season with the gazillions he spent? why should he be spared?

Cause a manager went trophyless in just one season doesn't mean he is a failure, unless you wanna say ferguson is a failure because he also went trophyless

you are looking at it on the surface.
think deep. fergie always had a plan. look at what he did to get rid of the drunkards in the club in late 80s. he refurbished the youth academy & he won the first title with his kids. his employers then must have seen his plan & they believed in it. that's the crux of the matter.

raumdeuter: How did Ferguson leave on a high? In Fergusons last season he failed to win the CL, booted out in second round, He failed to win the FA cup. So he like Ancelotti failed

fergie won the league title - his 13th league title. ancelotti got destroyed after asking & signing a £50m striker. he got obliterated home & away in europe.......and lost to the same team in the league's title race.

that was below roman's expectation & thus the sack.

Did Madrrid management send to you the expectation for Del Bosque? Did they tell you his expectation was to win the CL every season?

florentino perez mentioned it that del bosque performed below the club's high standards.

So if Moyes didnt fail at Everton, whats the rationale for saying Wenger failed? Did his employers tell you he didnt meet expectations set for him? As at today he still has a job

moyes didn't fail at everton cos he was keeping the club above their normal level. what's their transfer kitty? what's their capacity? didn't they finish constantly above liverpool while he was there?

wenger on the other hand went from dominating the league into mediocrity. losing to birmingham in a carling cup final isn't arsenal's standard. he went trophyless for 9 years when useless teams like wigan, birmingham, spurs, pompey won domestic competitions.

that to me is massive failure.

So lets ask in the whole EPL how many coaches havent failed in the last 2 decade?

ferguson, martinez, hiddink, etc

airmark: @Coogar, there is procedure followed in setting battle thread. Battlers should come here and ask any of emaprince, mikuz or ojoawo to set it up for them. Not just hand-picking one market woman to set it up. Naah.

fuckyouhard
elymaxiimus

so you are saying teddyishappy is a market woman? pray tell - is emobïtch half as intelligent as teddy? i am not even sure mikuz is as educated as teddy from the gbaguans he drops every time.

we cannot continue to wait on broke ašs monikers who need their monthly salaries to log on to NL & do their jobs. you need to reassess your panel & include posters who are fairly constant on this section. emobïtch logs on about twice a month, why should he be trusted to do a good job?

raumdeuter: Ancelloti spent 2 seasons
won a domestic double in one.

dayokraut, don't start this new moniker of yours with stüpidity. it's a new dawn.

So for him not to fail he must win every season? Then we can also say Ferguson failed since he didnt win every season

even the holy book says it's not how you start but you how you end your race. fergie left on a high(genius). mourinho left porto & inter on a high(genius). heynckes left bayern with treble(genius). such examples are the managers that cannot be messed with & should be emulated.

Sacking coaches have nothing to do with brilliance, Jose was sacked, while Moyes was never sacked by Everton that must mean Moyes is brilliant

another brainless rejoinder from the kraut.

was moyes meeting the expectation of his chairman? did moyes punch above his weight at everton considering the little resources he had to work with in comparison to jose mourinho? to whom much is given, so much more is fücking expected. not every club can win the league title.

Del Bosque was sacked at Madrid after winning 2 CL and 2 league in 4 seasons he must have failed

how did he finish 02/03? did he win the champions league that year? did he meet the expectation of his employers? if he did, why was he sacked then?

In Germany Magath was sacked by Bayern and Schalke

but his mediocrity was exposed here as he took fulham to relegation for the first time since they got promoted.

in the spirit of fairness, aromo has to reduce his lines when he comes online.

raumdeuter: How did Carlo fail? He won a domestic double in his first season.

and what happened afterwards? if it's about what managers won in their debut season then wenger & di matteo are the best managers in the world.

carlotti failed, carlotti got sacked. if he was brilliant, roman wouldn't have sacked him. the premier league is no respecter of managers. even scolari got axed. magath is a deity in germany & his mediocrity got exposed in england.

elampiro is a shameless liar.....

•our first loss was against liverpool, rooney didn't play & liverpool were lucky to went on with a win that day. united were 7th on the table after the loss. this is discounting the community shield, swansea win, etc that RVP singlehandedly won by himself.

•by 22nd of september after the manchester derby, united had dropped to 8th. RVP didn't play, rooney led united to the most humiliating loss last season.

•against west brom, rooney led united into another loss. he started, scored a flukey goal via freekick as an equaliser. he completed 90 mins & couldn't find his bearing. RVP came on to salvage the damage rooney had caused but it wasn't to be as we were always behind west brom for the entire game. we sank to the 12th position.

•we drew southampton at OT(rooney was so useless moyes took him off after completing almost 90 mins & recording only 2 shots in the entire game). rooney also played the entire game when we lost to everton at OT. RVP was already injured by this time.......rooney sank united lower on the table to 9th.

***elampiro lied blatantly here that it was the newcastle game that took us to the 9th position when the real fact states it was the everton loss where RVP played no part that took us to 9th.***

lofty900: if a girl of 15 runs into ur flat and begs u to give it to her or she will harm herself wont u oblige and save her life ? say the truth and thep truth shall set u free.....

let her harm herself. i will stand at a distance and get everything on camera.

lofty900: in otherwords they were raped, thats what they always say. But if u ask them whether they report the matter , they will say nope. why didn't u report nah ? errm ermm I don't know ooooo

and it hasn't occurred to you that they don't report because most of their attackers are either family members , well-known acquaintances, neighbours, relatives, etc?

besides - nigerians don't have any confidence in their judiciary system so what's the essence of reporting only to be ridiculed by our stark illiterate policemen? people get robbed off their phones everyday in lagos, how many of them report these incidents?

not reporting means they are lying or they are equally culpable of their own attack? lofty900, whichever side of the bed you woke up from this morning must be the wrong side. go back to bed and start the day afresh.

freecocoa: How does one take drugs for something like this when the chances of being caught is extremely high? This is really not good news.

she might have taken prescription drugs not necessarily for performance. she just failed a drugs test which could have been cough syrup or cold syrup. it's not clear yet if what she took was performance related. you guys should wait till thursday for the result of the B sample before crucifying her.

MrTA: Well Vidal was always interested in the Move. Its Juve who want us to break the bank for him. We'll pay through the nose. Probably close to £50m

el mercurio(where the news broke) is the most reputable tabloid in the whole of latin america. they have never reported a fake news.

we should know in 3 hours time. juventus are doing a presser at 3pm. allegri would be forced to say what the true situation is cos journalists will ask.

so the meltdown may start at 3pm
ARTURIN or ARTUROUT?

DonTim1: Thank you, coogar for ur response, pls cld u modify to "Don-Tim"

@ego and @kan, I hope nw u knw it wasn't as a result of data loss as I was fine afterwards

you can't modify it.....
take the matter to seun & see if he can come up with a solution.

tatiana009: Sorry are you talking to me? I'm confused because i didn't even comment about if it was right or not that he shot her, I only pointed out that she actually lied about being pregnant. I was just updating the information , Abeg try and read carefully in future before you accuse someone. I'm totally against jungle justice or killing someone unless absolutely necessary.

who was there when she allegedly made this "i am pregnant" statement? nobody. it's the word of a geriatric fool against the deceased. he could be the liar here.

tatiana009: Now as for my opinion, I think the man was wrong. Not even because she said she was pregnant but I don't think there's any reason to kill someone who was running away since he wasn't in danger at that point. However he could have shot her in the legs to stop her from escaping. That's what I would have done, that way I'll ensure that the police catch her because she could have gone on to rob another home and hurt someone or even return to harm the man and then you'll regret letting her escape, I read a report on Fox News that says the old man's collarbone had been broken by them so they definitely weren't harmless. Some thieves have even been known to return better prepared to cause more harm when they feel angry that their target had escaped, he should have just shot her in the leg. Even if he couldn't get a perfect aim, at least if he aimed at her lower region he would have reduced the chance of killing her.

there was no reason to shoot at all......
she was running away. if anything, the other robber(male) was the biggest threat & the fear of killing one to prevent them coming back was misplaced. if anything, shooting the female & leaving the male to escape is a bigger risk. the male can still stage a comeback when the heat cools down.

this is just a case of a blood-thirsty, trigger-happy old man. maybe hunting was recently banned in his state & the urge to pull the trigger was huge. no man should ever shoot at a woman fleeing, i don't about the circumstances that musta have ensued. it just doesn't make sense to me. there's more to this story than we are being told.

capricornian: You sure?

verbal agreement - it's unofficial.

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all i know is mikuz has to drop his verdict first as the achebe of rap. if mikuz is online, he must open the floor & tell us who won this battle.

uncle kim, over to you.......

damiso: Coogar don come o how does that mean her husband must pay for her 'fairytale' wedding by hook or by crook. Pay is subjective jare.I paid all our wedding registry fees so to me I paid for the most important part the legal bit all those others were feferity

that's what she was implying thus the need to add "God forbid" to her statement. naija men are trying. they are expected to come with the goods & when they demand their own perks, the women turn around & claim gender equality. how convenient....

As I said earlier these things are sometimes cultural.I remember some of my Igbo friends were a bit puzzled at my dad paying for our wedding.They could not comprehend it as they felt how can I pay to train my daughter and then now pay for you to marry her.I had to explain that how it's done in yorubaland but the groom or his family can choose to chip in as they deem fit.

long throat is not a cultural thing.

I was chief bridesmaid to one of my friends and she had a very low key white wedding which she contrbuted quite a lot to but she and her hubby had to code it like he was the one who spent all the money as it's seen as a sign of not being financially ready for marriage if you cannot afford to fund your wedding without your wife's input.

he will pay her back in cash or in kind one day soon. her kindness shall never be forgiven.

Coogar all this mouth you are making sef I have read somewhere on this same NL where you said weddings are not meant to skimped on.ehhh so why you come dey vex for this OP.

if the couple can afford it, why not? the problem is when the bride fully knows her groom cannot afford it but she still wants to keep with the joneses & demand a societal wedding. one armed robber confessed recently that he went into robbery because his bride-to-be put pressure on his shoulder to foot the bill or forget about marrying her.

aisha2: When one sweats finish, endures boring meetings, Bosses wahala and the rest then he/ she will know 200k is not easy to come by and spend on something that wont give profit in essence if you suffer to make the money you go careful in spending

aisha, spend this money - you only live once.

damiso: Why can't she carry 20k bag

i am all for a woman looking good but her expectations must not be higher than my wallet. if it is, she must be ready to fill in the gap.

lofty900: no girl will ever tell you she followed a guy to his house and willingly slept over. It's always how he got her drunk , took advantage of her , bla bla bla . How come they keep saying the same thing ? Because they want to play decent and innocent. Most times they say they were used because they were so young and ignorant. One girl I was toasting even asked me " why are guys so wicked ? " that she find it hard to trust guys only to follow me home that same day . In my mind I was like, see pretenders.

well, this is where the age of consent angle comes into play. if a girl of 15 runs to your flat nakêd & begs you for sex, the law states she's too young to understand what she's doing. you as an adult should resist such advances and not take advantage of her naivety.

aisha2: Lol, no be money them dey use maintain the flash? Instead of me buying 400k bag I will say let me buy one small land in my state, or let me help widows start a business. Instead of carry 300k phone to show off I go say make I add am to my business. Lol. Once in a while we splurge and spoil ourselves but no be do or die as e dey be for the flashy babe, make new bag comot and you no buy for her chai you go hear am

why must the cost come out of their partner's wallet. i don't mind if a woman is flashy as long as she's the one maintaining herself. if she wants a 400k bag when i can only give 200k, then she must be ready to chip in the balance by herself.

LUKE SHAW IS UNFIT

Asked at a post-training press conference why Shaw worked alone, United manager Van Gaal said:

'I am always a trainer who sees the individuals and what each player needs.

'Luke needs to be fit and he’s not very fit and can’t perform how I want. He needs to be fit and to train individually.

'I can’t judge why. I see what I see. I have spoken with him and we have made a programme with him.

'He has agreed. We will have to see how long it takes. I don’t know.

what a waste of money!
fabio contreao would have made more sense than this overrated english lightweight.

aisha2: There are loads of women who reason like me oh, I meet them everyday, unfortunately they are not the flashy ones our brothers like, lol. Our brothers will see low maintainance toyota and go for the porsche and start crying about maintainance cost lol.

why can't we have the best of both worlds? how come the flashy ones rarely have a good head on their shoulders? is it a curse?

damiso: As for original poster though I also don't think that God forbid I pay for my wedding is clear to me? What do you mean by God forbid?

it's self-explanatory.....
it means my husband must pay for my fairytale wedding by hook or crook. God forbid a situation where she would be the one to pay for "her own" fantasies. she could contribute a small portion but the burden must rest on the husband's shoulders.

dopeJemi: So now you saying both cleverly and anderson are usless that neymar, suarez or messi will have to run 80yards just to score

Kay now, how many times have madrid and barca scored without the help of midfielders?

no....i am saying the burden of always having to create would be less if we have an attack who can create goals on their own single-handedly. however, when you have a useless forward like rooney, midfielders have to create all the time. in man utd, the midfielders take the blame.

then came the world cup - no united central midfielder featured for england. so it was generally expected gerrard & henderson would be an upgrade to anderson & cleverley. rooney was going to rule the world & win the golden boot. what happened in the end? the fat scouser flopped again.

what does that tell you?

afrodoc: LMAO most of the wonder goals scored in the goal of the week programs are by journeymen footballers.
No be by who score gen gen goal.
Coogar lets keep it 100.....are you saying Bebe Winans is better than Rooney?

in 2014, bebe has been better than rooney. bebe was scoring goal of the season contender on a weekly basis while the obese striker was stinking up the joint in allianz arena & old trafford.

Dadehmola: Cooger..... Barney, young, bebe & cleverley (your favorite players) are actually the worst calamities to have befallen man utd in the last 3 seasons!

that's your opinion.
all i know is these players are very good. it only takes an astute manager to get the best out of them.

aisha2: Your parents paid for most of your wedding that is different from the posters view on "God forbid I sponsor my own wedding"

When we shout women empowerment it starts from this, working hand in hand with our husbands to achieve a common goal.
I see a man who brought for discussion with his fiancee their future; lets have a big wedding or let us build a home and have a smaller one. HE COULD HAVE DECIDED ON HIS OWN and Informed her seeing its his money and we would have cursed him but he didnt, he came like a partner and asked that they both be responsible for their future.

My and Hubby said when we chose our own, anyone who wants a big wedding should pay for it as we dont have the money.
I was on a flight with someone from Malaysia who had lived in the south south for 20 years farming and selling palm oil, he said the problem with our people is we "underachieve and overcelebrate" that in all his years there his workers would ask for loans for burials and namings and not one to build a small business, they were satisfied with crumbs as long as they could attend endless ceremonies weekends and host their own parties with loans and on credit.

you must be very intelligent - with a very good head on your shoulders. unfortunately for nigerian men, you are the very last of a dying breed.

afrodoc: You aint saying much either. Portugal does not have goal scorers, they rarely do. Being the top scoring Portuguese player in a yeye Portuguese league overpopulated with akara defenders is nothing special.
Bebe is as fecal as they come, he has the subtlety of a r.apist and the intelligence of a duck billed platypus

don't you wish the fat scouser can score like this?

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bukatyne: There was no input required. I believe that for them to be engaged, they have started planning their future together.

1. They should have agreed on the % of their income to set aside for their new home (wedding &shelter) monthly

2. Declear all assets to know their current financial standing as they progress

3. If somewhere along the line, he felt or saw that they couldn't afford an eloborate wedding & building a home or decided building a house made more commercial sense than wedding big& renting, he hould have called the OP lovingly, explained the situation and they both decide if

They should go for their dream wedding + rent

They should do court, build and wed big later

They should do court & invest

They should build & do court etc.

These are many possible scenarios Here, OP is part of the decision process and they both do what is best for them.

It seems the marriage stuff was just out of the blued for the guy.

you don't get it.

elampiro: We had two good period last season and RVP did not participate in both. The first good period was when we went on a winning spree beginning from our 5-0 at Leverkusen. At the end of the period we were counting our chances here.

which stüpid good period? how many league games have we lost before we played leverkusen? weren't leverkusen the last european team we played before the winter break?

We had another period where Rooney and Mata were scoring. RVP was not there too.

mata didn't even join us until the ending of january. by then, we had lost about 6 league games already. many of those games had rooney starting as the main man and delivering a performance equivalent to a shït sample of a dog that is dying of dysentery.

RVP was involved in most period we struggled. The first was the beginning of the season when we were on 12th and 9th or thereabout. We were so so far away in points from top teams. The second period was when he returned, Mata was bought and we felt yes, we could make it. Whoosaa! We lost to Stoke, drew Saundrland..... I can even remember the small small teams we drew or lost to that period and we were out of sight with top 5 teams completely.

each time RVP came back, he scored goals & we played really well. rooney on the other hand was rubbish for most parts. it was RVP that rescued us when we faced olympiakos by scoring a hatrick at OT. rooney was useless in both legs of that tie. RVP went injured again & rooney completed his aroma of shyte when he surrendered like a whorë to mediocre defenders like boateng & dante.

afrodoc: Yes that is why there were riots in Portugal when he didnt make the Portuguese squad in the world cup.
And please what is the the significance of being the highest scoring Portuguese player in the yeye Portuguese league?
The same league that made AVB a genius while he has been exposed TWICE in England as a charlatan?
ONE EPL PENALTY IS WORTH 3 GOALS SCORED FROM THE CENTRE CIRCLE IN PORTUGAL

why should there be riots? tevez didn't make his world cup squad. nasri didnt. were there riots in their respective countries? they were both league winners when the world cup squad was selected. you are not saying much.

if it's about managers that have failed here, there are plenty of them to name. don't just stop at AVB. carlotti failed here. jose failed last season. benitez failed. mancini failed. wenger failed for almost a decade.

afrodoc: very true Bebebelube is one of Coogar's favorite players.....he sure knows how to pick them

the same bebe was the highest scoring portugese player in their league. i have the gift of foresight, you guys have the gift of hindsight.

i am sure bebe has scored more goals than rooney in 2014 if we remove awoof penalties from rooney's haul.