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Purist: I don't mean to join the coogar-elampiro argument, but pardon me if I'm mistaken -- isn't Rooney expected to have more possession, more passes, higher accuracy, and more assists than RVP since he's played mostly as an SS/AM or even CM at times? RVP is the one leading the line, who do you expect him to be assisting or passing the ball to? The opposition goalie?

adaobi123: £50 ?

Some powerful stuff I guess.

ochukoccna: Abeg this question is for those who old enough to go to the wines/spirits section of stores here
[s]Underage peeps, you know yourselves don't answer this question..Abi make I mention your names? [/s]
The beer here is water mehn and I've not visited any pubs nor clubs yet
Still integrating and na book I come read nah!
Its not like Star, Gulder, Big Stout where 2 bottles will begin to tell your body, something dey here
2 cans of Guinness, Guinness Draughts , Newcastle Brown Ale etc just feel like 2 cups of water afterwards
Never was into Heineken back home but you heard saw most guys push it aside for our local brew
Can anyone recommend a beer here that is at par with our local brew back home whey pesin fit take indoors and get a good night sleep?
Thanks

afrodoc: lol we know why you used rooney.
i don't hate cleverley, he is one guy i still have hopes for in the team but he needs to step up his game.
off to work. i will log on later to see how elampiro responds to your subliminal barbs at his managing director rooney

dademola: bros, i think say na only me notice!cooger dey try change the arguement to d rooney thingy. Good thing nobody has fallen for d bait yet

afrodoc: ololololo!!!

u see as i dey take style dodge the argument?
coogar tink say i be elampiro? if him like make e type rooney a million times i no go bite

afrodoc: except that these same players make the killer pass later in the sequence of passes. they "recirculate" the ball until THEY SEE a good opening then they make the slide rule key pass. however in tomC's case when the ball is recirculated to him he just keeps on making the same safe passes all day, its either he can't see the opening or he lacks the ability to make the pass through the opening or he lacks the confidence.
for the sake of Man Utd i hope its just a matter of confidence

dademola: nna mehn... Forget dt tin!! I can type "best of yusuf mulumbu" for google, and upload a gif dt wld put u in a frenzy!!

dademola: weda u like it or not, cleverley is still "wigan-standard"!!

afrodoc: [/b]
1) I wont be drawn into your Rooney issue, thats you and elampiro's nollywood movie, watch out for part 4

2) if you are comparing cleverley to a geriatric scholes who was clearly past it, i agree with you i would take cleverley over scholes, redondo or ray wilkins over the last 2 seasons

3) the truth is we both know carrick is better than cleverley, the point is carrick should have a more proactive partner not cleverley. cleverley would be a really good squad player to have for now.

P.S you didnt think of different formations in those teams when u were hyping cleverley's passing. the fact remains in those clubs very cautious passers are usually paired with someone who is more willing to play more expansive football and take a few more risks passing. i have seen cleverley too many times pass up a glaring opportunity for a through pass just to feed the ball wide to a full back, killing moves in utero!

dademola: alex song was faaaaaaaar betta dan mikel.....this isnt even debatable!! Assuming they swapped clubs, arsenal wld hav been playing coca cola league 1 football....courtesy mikel!! Back to d "sideways" cleverley, even if u bring stats dt suggest he has more foward passes than ozil and iniesta combined, it doesnt change d obvious fact that HE IS VISIONLESS, ORDINARY, MEDIOCRE and AVERAGE!!!

nitrogen: 1 million likes o jare, don't mind Coogar. He has forgotten that Statistics and football are negatively correlated. Something wey we dey see with our korokoro eyes, na im one statistics from one useless source go dey decieve us, abegi, don't be surprised if statistics talk say Xavi better pass Zidane or our Cleverly better pass carrick sef

Abeg, Coogar, park well joor. Cleverly is just a motherfucking average and visionless player as well as a mediocre.

afrodoc: Understanding the dynamics of the game it would be more logical to compare cleverley's stats to fellow midfielders who play in and around the same area he plays in, not comparing him to strikers and defenders and goal keepers. how many times in a game does de gea pass the ball backwards? compare apples with apples and oranges with oranges.

The midfielders there are Cleverley,Scholes and Carrick. Cleverley has the highest percentage of backward passes amongst the midfielders at a whopping 15%ncompared to just 8% for both Carrick and Scholes

Carrick had 37% of his passes going forward compared to a paltry 23% by Cleverley.
Now this is the problem. Carrick despite his lack of pace is a pretty good screen in front of the defence, however Carrick should not be paired with a midfielder who is even less attack minded than Carrick as these your stats show.

The comparisons you make are not quite accurate as Busquets at Barca has a more attack minded Xavi as partner, Mikel had Lampard,Ramires etc, Alonso had Gerrard. The summary in my view is Cleverley is too timid offensively to be Carrick's partner.

dademola: hahaha! I think i like where this is going! If u asked; who was more creative btwn song and mikel as at dt time, wot wld ur response be?

chrisley024: His forward passes gave him wat?. Song still got more assists than him.
I guess u saw his tru pass during d wkend?

dademola: a playa dt passes sideways and backwards has "vision"??

nitrogen: I hear you, I did forget that it is just an opinion and not a fact, and every is entitled to his opinion(s). I had to mark out just one word out of your post, simply put, 'Cleverly is vision-less', someone that has got vision will always look ahead, someone with 'even' blurred/unclear vision will have something he is pursuing, but a vision-less individual has got nothing, Cleverly passes to the back and sideways, is that the/your definition of VISION?

Be objective bro!

Chillisauce: Nothing new there. I just want to see his techniques

Chillisauce: Coogar is opening up. .
He takes drug for his movies. And maybe save his strength for his movies.

I don't believe you anyway. Can I get a link so I can confirm
I'm sure some ppl wouldn't mind checking it out.

nitrogen: One thing is this, I think everyone here has got his/her favorite player(s), and that has blocked most from seeing and saying the truth, Elampiro and his cohorts-Rooney, Coogar- Young, Cleverly and Anderson, some others too are obsessed with different players. It simply annihilates objectivity.

That said, I just don't know what qualities Cleverly has got, sincerely, I don't know! I think there is no difference between the British Press Coogar castigates, Coogar himself and 'dem' Elampiro.
Infact, COOGAR+ELAMPIRO and his cohorts= BRITISH PRESS.

Chillisauce: It depends. Ron might be 5 sec man , that goes like once per day and snoop, 4 rounds per day.

Look around you, those fat ones give up easily. If not, they won't be fat.
Fact!

pickabeau1: hahahahah.. lol @ years ago ....

Chillisauce: Keep deceiving your self.

Is well known that too much se xaul escapades causing one to loose weight.

You see lots of slimy guys like snoop dog, you wonder what causes they weight loss...
Look no further....it's right there in front of them

GustavoFring: You still have not said what Cleverly did better in his first 2 seasons than Carrick

deols: @coogar and Donxavier, this should end it. Read the underlined.

I took screen shots to save time. Source thereby acknowledged.

GustavoFring: Really?
Expatiate please...

deols: And in a man with a low sperm count as well??

deols: I will tell my sibling if I find out something like that because in his shoes, I would want to know.

Everyone does it..in everyway they can.
People always know people who know someone who knows..

There is a lot we can do actually. At a personal level and at a bigger level. You should see the girls I train

Mothers actually send their girls to me. The first thing I teach is self esteem. Some men just don't deserve some kinds of women.

When women raise the bar, men will have no choice than to change.

deols: This your theory, I never heard of o..that sex helps wih prostate cancer..

Anyways, what Chilli said is not a lie. A man who has sex everyday or too frequently may not be very fertile.

Sperm cells take about 75 days to mature. If he exhausts them, by going all around with all kinds of women, he'd probably not have enough at the time his wife is ovulating. His chances of getting her pregnant would be slim.

Couples TTc would be advised to stay off until that period so their chances are increased.

deols: How often does the womb get affected because of a woman's sexality? It is not as bad as you make it seem. She only needed to play safe just as much as a man needed to.

deols: I will fight a sibling marrying a runs girl. It is impossicant.

Well, that is the reason for all the pre wedding investigations.

But I hate to hear that men can go ahead and do whatever and even be praised at it while women can't and would be stigmatised for it.

The point is, whatever is bad is BAD irrespective of who is doing it.

dademola: yeah, carrick was underated wen scholes was der buh dis is d same carrick dt put in decent shifts at CB when we had defensive crises. Dis is also d carrick dt was unplayable in dt 7-1 destruction of Roma! Dis Carrick was also a serious contender for MOTM awards in certain games in that period and must hav even won some! He was terribly underated, buh considering wat scholes was doing at dt time, u cant really blame pple for doing so! Cleverley's case isnt d same. It appears his sideways and backward passing has come to stay! Maybe he needs some serious competition for him to up his game....

deols: Read what I wrote earlier. I agree with the Op. I would be angry if a brother knows and does not tell me aomething like this.

But I disagree that a guy being promiscuous is different from a lady being that.

The lady could even be wise enough to use protection amd the guy silly enough to contact STIs that may render him infertile. In women, The risk is not as much as you make it seem.

pickabeau1: In that case, no problem
I think what you ladies have an issue is the reputational issues..


same actions
One is seen as a player and the other a ride...

Well i wish you all success in your campaigns.. maybe in 50 years time, promiscuity will be frowned equally by both genders

deols: This is nothing but hypocrisy. If you will forgive the guy, so should you be able to forgive the girl.

My point remains though..I'd want to know if my relative knew.

pickabeau1: interesting .... so the more partners one has, one runs the risk of fertility challenges.... strange

Not sure it has the same potential impact as multiple abortions though

dademola: michael carrick has alws been an excellent passer of d ball..... Even from his days at spurs.He was even joint top in d assists chart for spurs in d 05/06 season. These were obviously part of d things dt fergie saw, b4 deciding to spend 18m on him. Wen he joined us. He wasnt as influencial in MF as he is today buh his impressive passing range and calmness when under pressure frm opponents, where there for all to see! There's no basis for comparism wit a cleverley dt prefers to "hide" in games by continously passing sideways and backwards, and running aimlessly like a possessed goat. It baffles me wen such "charasteristics" (and certainly not "qualities") are celebrated for a midfielda playing for arguably d biggest sporting institution in d world.under normal circumstances, cleverley shud be carrick's understudy in CMF and certainly not his partner, buh considering d form and fitness issues of oda midfieldas in d side, we are kinda stuck with TC 23! On sunday, Phil jones was our best player in d 1st half! If he just adds a lil finesse to his game, he wld be a better option to d present cleverley

Ogbeche77: I've said it several times, Clever J abi na Danny crane, has no business on a football field for united, coogar ll say is combo with Fat Albert is the best thing after slice bread...
I screamed my head off when I saw him take Jones place at the MF on sunday... And to think we had a certain Pogba at sometime who Cleverly should be holding boot and hose for

Most successful English central midfielder is overlooked by fans and underappreciated but not by his team-mates who value his vital work

In future years, it might come to be a quiz question. In an era of repeated false dawns for the national team, who has been English football’s most decorated central midfielder? The instinctive answer, surely, would be either Frank Lampard or Steven Gerrard. Both men surpassed the landmark of 100 internationals this year and, for more than a decade, the debate has raged about how best to fit them into the England team.

It is startling, then, to think that there is someone else who, despite having 178 fewer caps than Gerrard and Lampard, has actually won two more Premier League titles and played in as many Champions League finals as his two more illustrious England team-mates put together.

Michael Carrick is a man who has been too easily overlooked throughout his career, particularly at international level, but not last night. For a match described simply as "The Decider" on the front cover of the Football Association’s programme, it was Carrick rather than Lampard or Jack Wilshere to whom Hodgson turned.

Carrick has always been something of an acquired taste. Loved by his team-mates for the way he quietly goes about his business yet mistrusted by many fans for a supposed tendency to become anonymous during the most critical moments of games.

If ever there was an opportunity to change perceptions, it was on Tuesday night.

So did he succeed? Probably not. Was he one of England’s best players?

Absolutely. In a match that was played at a frantic pace, Carrick did what he generally does. He protected his defence, he made telling interceptions and his use of the ball was excellent. Yes, there were times when a relative lack of pace meant that the match passed him by but there were still rather more moments when he quietly pinched the ball off a Polish player or started an England attack, such as when he picked out Wayne Rooney to almost create an early goal for Chris Smalling.

At the end of the first half, Opta produced statistics that underlined Carrick’s status as England’s best user of the ball. He had made 51 passes during that opening 45 minutes and found another England shirt 48 times.

His holding presence to the left of England’s midfield also allowed Leighton Baines and Gerrard to push forward more freely than if Lampard or Wilshere was in the team.

That was utterly critical in the 41st minute when Carrick’s simple side-footed ball released Baines for the wonderful cross that led to Wayne Rooney’s goal.

At Manchester United, Sir Alex Ferguson would frequently underline how easy it is to overlook what Carrick can do in preference for the more eye-catching role of a Gerrard, Lampard or Roy Keane. Yet going unnoticed does not automatically amount to being ineffective.

Carrick is not authoritative or combative midfielder in the style of Keane or a goalscorer in the image of Lampard. What he does offer, however, is something that is more subtle but often more important. It is control. It is the discipline to maintain his position on the pitch, the vision to read the game and so make that crucial interception or simple pass.

To his detractors, surely there is a good reason why Carrick was virtually ever present in a Manchester United midfield that has won five league titles and reached three Champions League finals over the past seven years?

Ferguson puts it like this: “In the modern day game, you don’t need tacklers the same way you used to. There’s no call for it. It’s about anticipation and reading the game. The refereeing is also of such a standard now that you can hardly tackle anyone, so that sort of thing isn’t the same issue as it used to be. Carrick can read the game and also play in front of the back four. If you look at the central midfielders in the Premier League, he can match up against any of them in terms of quality.”

It will be fascinating to see how Carrick might fit into England’s midfield in the future. Hodgson said this week that he would be happy starting with any combination of Gerrard, Lampard, Carrick or Wilshere in his team.

Gerrard’s status as captain, however, means that the choice is rather more realistically one from Carrick, Wilshere and Lampard. It is a nice option to have. Wilshere can be the linchpin of this England team over the next generation but, for the control and that rare ability among English players to keep possession, it is perhaps Carrick who best represents the present.

ifyalways: So,its 2020 and I'm at a wedding reception. The groom is Dayokanu and the bride is Coogar's cute,innocent lil' sister.

I am coogars guest so I sat beside him. I couldn't make the church service though and only saw the groom at the reception. I became dizzy and couldn't believe my eyes. Dayo from Egbeda? Dayo aka "fear no skirt" ? Dude banged anything in skirt! 3 of my hood girls told me they had DC's for him at different times, I personally remember seeing him hanging out with about 6 different ladies at various times. Fortunately, I never banged him.

So,I call my friend Coogar and say, " Is that your sister's hubby or the best man?"
Coogar: Yes,that's him.The groom.
Me: Dayo?
Coogar: Yeah. You know him?
Me: ooh dear,I do. All the way back to Egbeda, our high school days to Uni. His nick then was fear no skirt , he got 4 of my GF's preggie, dated the widow of chief ABC, bla bla. . .
Coogar: Wow,I remember that nick. "Dayo the baddest guy", he chuckles. I even lost one or two chicks to him,his game was so slick.No sweats.He was just being a guy then,having fun,testing the waters. Now he's a man,changed,responsible and matured. He's good now. Relax"

Double standards. Hypocrites. Pharisees.

funnyx: Chei see transformation this woman no dey diet ni?

ifex370: tribalist niggas na.... we no dey lack gist for enugu o...
for wia

ryom: A friend is considering starting a family. He's 46. A professional, decent job but I don't think he's wealthy. Don't ask me what he's done with his life all these while! He presently is thinking of settling with a 23 year old undergraduate who does not seem to mind the age difference. I am not sure how best to advise him. I think he should get an older lady. What does the house think?