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sinizia:
So 5 different facts from 5 reputable sites are wrong?

Ok, Elamps, bring out 5 pictorial evidence from ANY site of your choice showing Rooney not playing 10 in that match. Oya, prove us wrong.

he doesn't even have one......
all he's got are the words of a drunk journalist. from the images of the passes received by rooney against west ham, it was obvious he operated in the central role & kagawa operated from the left.

elampiro:
I watched those matches and knew the complaints that followed. Charts can be misleading. We have seen this again and again.

there was no complaint other than the fact that rooney performed poorly & SAF hooked him off. SAF's post-match comments said as much - he said rooney performed poorly & he had to be removed.

charts aren't misleading - they are the surest way of knowing where each player operated. this is why opta has added received passes. the position where you mostly receive the ball is where you were stationed.

nothing beat facts!

If you brought Rooney midfield against Southampton, Liverpool last season you could come out with similar results. Or Rooney in the wing against Cambridge where he practically drifted into midfield from 35 minutes of play.

so you are saying against west ham.....rooney played in the midfield? are you saying we played 4-3-3 instead of the 4-2-3-1 opta reported or are you saying kagawa played in the hole & rooney played as a winger?


make up your mind.....

elampiro:
All these are are sourced from opta prepared assummed line out.

Rooney played behind Welbeck, Chicharito in 2011/12. Don't just reopen already settled matter.

if he played behind welbeck/chicha in 11/12, why was rooney angry to play there in 12/13?

elampiro:
This settles the argument. The mistake Coogar made was to bring this interview.

lies!
rooney is happy playing upfront cos RVP got injured & rooney became the main man again. that is his point!

elampiro:
Charts can be misleading.

charts can only be misleading when the facts are incomplete. it's easy to know where a player played when you can get where he received his passes. that's just common sense.

So now you say Rooney wanted to partner Van Persie and not displace him from the number 9? This shit alone is a victory to me.

how is it victory to you?

Rooney did not mention 4-4-2. Rooney said he was happy playing in number 10 under Moyes, the same position he wanted to have consistent run of matches the previous season, his natural number 10 position.

when you are one of the 2 centre forwards, isn't that a 4-4-2 formation or any formation that puts 2 strikers up front. rooney told gary neville his favourite position is a striker. he told van gaal his favourite position is as a striker.

why else are you dragging this issue? you nor dey shame?

sinizia:
So we should go for your memory over obtainable FACTS?

Coogar has posted 4 pictures and all showed Rooney behind the striker and not in the wing or DM. If Coogar is lying, are the various sites lying too?

maybe i am the owner of those sites.
one would show him factual evidence of formation and where passes were received & elampiro would quote the opinion of a journalist. on what planet is opinion more truthful than facts?

tess1:
This is from another site

valencia, rooney & kagawa were all on the same horizontal line. elampiro should come & explain to us how rooney is more advanced than any of valencia & kagawa in a 4-2-3-1 system.

tess1:
I know the argument nah! I have been involved in the argument two times but he keeps on telling us there was one big HOLE in 4 4 2 formation where Rooney lived in 2011/12 season and scored so much goals with less assists.

rooney had 4 opta-rated assists that season. how can a player in the hole supply only 4 assists in 30+ appearances? what was he doing in the hole? we told him united played 2 upfront, elampiro lied a billion times that rooney was in the hole.

if rooney was in the hole in 11/12 and he scored 27 goals or so from that position, why would he be angry in 12/13 from the same position? that's the question elampiro cannot answer

Rooney must be THUNDER BALOGUN(remember his story when were younger) whose shot was so hot that he can score so much from anywhere in that hole.
That's just it. When you tell one lie, you have to manufacture so many other lies to make sure the first lie stands.

lol!
na real thunder balogun. rooney was obviously scoring from 60 yards that season. whether as a striker or as a number 10, rooney is not good enough to lead us to a title.

elampiro:
Rooney did not play number 10 against West Ham. It remember the controversies that followed that game and people said he was clearly not happy playing out of position.

rooney played number 10 against west ham. the controversy that followed was because rooney wanted to play 4-4-2 alongside van persie instead of playing behind him. you think the opinion of a journalist who is obviously on rooney's payroll matter to me?

i have the facts that many UK journalists aren't even privy to. these were the passes rooney received against west ham - he was mostly in the central role. kagawa's received passes were geared towards the left channel. facts are different from opinions, my friend.

argue with opta images...

tess1:
GBAM!!! But i am sorry, he will still twist it.

It's useless arguing with a person that's addicted to arguing blindly. Even when the fact speaks for itself.

it's not his fault he's arguing blindly.
it's a situation where one needs to lie to cover up 999 other lies. elampiro disputed the images on whoscored.com that told us united played 4-4-2 for majority of the league games in 11/12.

how do you suddenly expect him to agree with us here after spending more than 10,000 hours to defend his lies that rooney was in the hole in 11/12. of course, he has to keep lying even when iron-cast evidence is brought before him. he would rather deactivate his moniker than agree with us on this one.

This is another report stating Rooney did not play 10 against West Ham.

Now it coming out the interview Coogar submitted was given in October 2013 when Rooney was happy playing one of the two forwards positions under Moyes - number 10.

The problem is Coogar is relying on formation charts and I am relying on my memory.

of course.....and your memory is better than whoscored, opta, transfermarkt, official website of the premier league.

let's not forget this your memory once saw hargo clipping messi's left foot, this your memory once saw roy keane in a champions league final.

the premier league should stop contracting opta stats & rely on your memory. rooney told neville the striking position is his favourite role.

why else are you arguing?

elampiro:
Rooney did not play number 10 against West Ham. It remember the controversies that followed that game and people said he was clearly not happy playing out of position.

rooney played number 10 against west ham. the controversy that followed was because rooney wanted to play 4-4-2 alongside van persie instead of playing behind him. you think the opinion of a journalist who is obviously on rooney's payroll matter to me?

i have the facts that many UK journalists aren't even privy to. these were the passes rooney received against west ham - he was mostly in the central role. kagawa's received passes were geared towards the left channel. facts are different from opinions, my friend.

argue with opta images.....

dopeJemi:
Do na, I want to ask you something concerning where you base

UK, wytch farm.

elampiro:
I beg read that quote again objectively.
"I don’t mean I only want to play centre-forward
but [as] one of the two up front. "
= I dont mean I want to play the number 9, but one of the two men upfront.
Rooney was emphasizing to the reporter that he didn't mean he wanted to play 9 but as one of the two most forward positions.

and you cannot process that information that he meant 4-4-2 instead of a 4-2-3-1? are you being thick deliberately?

in 4-2-3-1 formation, there's only 1 upfront. in a 4-4-2, there are 2 positions upfront. if you are saying number 10 is upfront as number 9, what about the wingers?

aren't the wingers in the same zone as the number 10 hence 4-2-3-1? is number 10 more advanced in position than the wingers? haba, you are starting to make us question your educational background!

sinizia:
LOL. Elamps will never concede defeat in this argument.

First he said Rooney made a mistake mistaking upfront (10) for 9. He then backed it up with Gaal's English/amnesia.

Then he said Rooney played in Midfield against WH before "dashing" you the point.

Then he said a REPUTABLE newspaper's reporter misplaced Rooney's words even when Rooney never countered the guy. All i see are excuses but Elamps will never agree.


Rooney has been played out of position for countless seasons, earning him the title of being a "team player", even in Moyes' season, i remember 2 games he played as a DM. Now because of just because of 3 games out of position he wants out? Who's fooling who? We know the truth, just let the argument end, Elamps would never agree.

you dunno elampiro!
agreeing with us would destroy a lot of his well-built lies in the past. there has been history concerning where rooney played in 11/12. only a stark illiterate would say CAM/ST are upfront. since when are attacking midfielders and strikers upfront?

this was rooney's interview with gary neville last season.

Gary Neville
Does it frustrate you that you're not the number one centre forward?

Wayne Rooney
I think obviously my best position is a striker, I think that what happened is we had a lot of injuries and the manager thought it would be better for the team to have me in midfield to try and make us a bit more solid and to get on the ball as well.

At the time, I probably agreed for him, and for the team I played there but, of course, I want to play up front. I think the manager knows I want to but can see I don't mind helping us get victories that way. But the manager, one of the first things he asked me was 'Where do you want to play? What's your favourite position?' and I obviously said 'striker.. If needed to I can play in midfield but the only position I don't want to play is wide right.' That's the one position I can't play in, I don't enjoy it.

Gary Neville
Why?

Wayne Rooney
I don't know, it's weird. I think being right-footed, I feel I can do a better job on the left but on the right it's like the whole pitch closes up, I'm sure you know.

elampiro:
Witches don visit Coogar for UK today.

Your Rooney's quote : I don’t mean I only want to play centre-forward
but [as] one of the two up front. "

.......................

Rooney said he wanted to play as one of the two upfront. Meaning as number 10, which is one of the two upfront. 9 and 10 are the two positions up front. RVP was permanently number 9. Number 10 was the position Rooney played until February without issues or complaints or rotation. Then SAF started rotation in February. And Rooney felt uncomfortable.

Under Moyes. Rooney became happy playing number 10 behind RVP. His own position at Man United.

so your english language told you number 10 is one of the centre forwards? rooney said i am not asking to play as a lone striker but as one of the 2 centre forwards?

do you have a problem with english language?

dopeJemi:
First, where are you? I mean the country

enugu, ituku ozalla.

dopeJemi:
Coogar I need to ask you something

the coog is all EARS.....

elampiro:
Rooney would have been surprised at Ferguson's claim. SAF was trying to take charge though. But Rooney came to clear the true situation. SAF didnt talk again and RVP never countered Rooney.

SAF was praising Giggs as the best and new penalty taker. But Rooney suggestion of RVP was eventually what SAF adopted.

lies!
no one sane enough would believe rooney - a granny shaggêr who isn't even faithful to his marital vows.

SAF was only talking about giggsy's penalty against fulham. RVP wasn't on the pitch & SAF was commenting on giggsy's goal that giggsy is one of the best penalty takers in the squad.

elampiro:
How? Rooney was specific that it was midfield. RVP's position was never the battle. Rooney didnt even drag it with RVP, Chicharito and Welbeck under Moyes.
Rooney played out of position, number 10, in February, March and April was the issue.

your lies keep expanding but i have found the more comprehensive interview.

rooney:

"Everyone at the club knew that’s where I wanted to play.

I think that’s why I was disappointed - because I got told to play in midfield and I didn’t want to.

Of course, I’d always go in and try to help the team, but I think there had to come a point where, for my own career, I had to be a bit selfish, really.

Naturally, I was a bit disappointed and maybe that affected some of the games I played.

I can go and play in midfield. Maybe when I’m a bit older, losing my legs a bit, I can go back there; and if it was the last 10-15 minutes of a game and we were holding on a bit and I got asked to drop to the left or drop in to help see the game out, I’d do that.

I’m not saying I’d throw my arms up and not do it.

I don’t mean I only want to play centre-forward but [as] one of the two up front."

elampiro - i dare you to twist this interview that rooney meant he wanted to play in the hole. this is what happens when you don't give up on an argument you have lost - you push people into doing more research and airing you out.

the interview clearly means rooney wanted 4-4-2 formation like he did in 11/12 but SAF opted for 4-2-3-1 formation when RVP arrived. the hole is CAM(central attacking midfielder). 4-4-2 makes rooney a pure centre forward. if you dispute this once again then you should never be taken serious.

case dismissed!

elampiro: What am I saying? SAF was only talking like someone in charge. You wanted SAF to admit he adopted a player's idea ? That players now dictate to him? Then why is he the coach? World most respected coach.

rooney is the one more likely to be saving face. SAF's interview was on the 28th of january. rooney came out 4 days later to say it was his decision to hand over the duties.

SAF has always been a ruthless manager - his records speak for itself. when rooney suggested united should sign ozil in 2010, SAF walked him out of his office immediately.

SAF was the one that took rooney off penalty duties. rooney does not have a say in such matters. the manager decides who takes penalties......just like LVG passed the baton from RVP to mata last season!

sinizia:
Drop this argument, Coog. Even in that excerpt from The Guardian, everything that needs to be known about Rooney's grouse being V.Persie's position and V.Persie being the favorite son of OT is embedded there. Elamps won't agree with you and you won't agree with him either. We the readers have already read and assimilated the truth, so forget that discussion. We all know Rooney's matter with Elamps always end with no conclusion.

he brought a link that defeated his own argument. he said the writer assumed like us that rooney meant CF position when it should be in the hole.

his argument that rooney was taken out of his position didn't even hold up. rooney played 25 times out of the 27 league apps in the hole - so why was he angry if the hole was his preferred position?

elampiro loves distorting facts!

SailorXY:
I heard Lacasera is more if a poacher & he's a brief lad. is that what we really need in a fluid front three system?

lacazette is like suarez!
poacher ke? he is one of the best dribblers in europe. he's off the ball movement is world class already & when he gets that chance in the box, he finishes with aplomb!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nSzNcEuZ3M

dayyuuum....see pace & clinical finishing. even his assists are david silvaesque. for £30m, this lad is ours and he's only 24. he will give us at least 5-6 years of quality service before he packs up.

StarBoard:
Is that fella not the kind that would be a nice little signing for us?

he's athletico's best player. he would cost £70m, an arm & a human heart.

StarBoard:
Like Hazard is only a step below Messi and Ronaldo according to the 98% muppet majority in your thread?

guy just sharrrap dia. This your attention seeking is worse dan a brea.stfeeding baby.

hazard isn't even better than griezmann. he's not in neymar's level & chelsea fans are dreaming ballon d'or already? they will have to kill ronaldo, neymar, messi, robben, muller, etc before hazard can wear that crown.

funlord:

As 4 lacazette, the french ligue 1 aint the same as Prem lig man! @ least cavani is proven in both the french and italian leagues and I think his brutish style would help him transition 2 the prem with ease! IMO!

lacazette is 50 times better than cavani. cavani should only replace di maria in the wing forward role - never to be used as a striker. he's shyte!

elampiro:

Wayne Rooney hands over penalty-taking duties to Manchester United team - mate Robin van Persie

Wayne Rooney has relinquished penalty-
taking duties at Manchester United after
urging Sir Alex Ferguson to hand the
responsibility to Robin van Persie.

Rooney , who faces Fulham at Craven Cottage on
Saturday evening having scored nine goals in his
last nine appearances for United, was criticised
by Ferguson after missing from the penalty spot
for the second time this season during the FA
Cup third-round replay against West Ham last
month.

“To be honest, it was my choice,” Rooney said. “It
wasn’t good enough. I went in to speak with the
manager and said I’d spoken with Robin and told
him he could take them. At a club like this, to
miss two penalties like I did and not hit the
target, it wasn’t good enough.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9843372/Wayne-Rooney-hands-over-penalty-taking-duties-to-Manchester-United-team-mate-Robin-van-Persie.html



Coogar, why do you dislike Wayne Rooney so much that you twists facts to disfavour him?

Rooney and Van Persie both said they are very good friends off and on the pitch. Van Persie said he came to United partly cos of Rooney. They defend each other in the press. Yet you and your cohort tell lies Rooney wanted to play 9.Why then did he not play 9 or even co-striker for Moyes? He even played the number 10 behind Welbeck and Chicharito under Moyes.

This is the end of this argument.

you are quoting wayne rooney who lies for africa about every situation. how charitable is rooney to ask that RVP should start taking penalties? a greedy bastard that held the club to ransom twice over pay increase.

you can be fooled by rooney, i cannot. this was how SAF told the story.....

The England striker has misfired from the spot 10 times in his Old Trafford career and the 71-year-old believes he has better options from 12 yards already in his squad

Sir Alex Ferguson has stood by his decision to strip Wayne Rooney of penalty taking duties at Manchester United.

Ryan Giggs netted from the spot after three minutes in United's 4-1 FA Cup win over Fulham at the weekend, despite Rooney featuring from the start.

The former Wales international has started just 11 matches this season but was handed responsibility after the England striker missed his 10th penalty for the club in their third round replay with West Ham.

The manager told reporters after the match: "I think Ryan's probably one of our best penalty takers, to be honest.

"I think it's fair that with Wayne missing the penalties he has, it was time to give him a break.

believe rooney at your own peril....

elampiro:
You are funny. How can you say someone who scored 27 goals lost us the title in 2011/12? You have taken your hatred towards Rooney to a new height. Rooney was highest scorer in the league per minutes played.

yet, it was his little drought against wigan & city that lost us this title. when the chase became hot, was it too much to expect rooney to score against wigan(a relegation bound-team)?

rooney's 27 goals meant nothing in the end. he didn't even win the golden boot, neither did he win the league title. if SAF felt rooney was sufficient to our title challenge in 2012/13, he wouldn't have bought RVP.

We lost the titles in 2010 and 2012 basically due to injuries together with :

we didn't lose those titles due to injuries - we lost those titles because rooney became shyte when it mattered the most. we lost ground after going 8 points clear in 2011/12. we lost to wigan & city(away at etihad)

in 2009/10, rooney got injured & he never recovered for almost 9 months. he didn't score an open goal for united after that injury from march 2010 to january 2011. who would trust such a striker to deliver the title?

SAF joked with some matches. In 2012 he benched Rooney against Blackburn. He tested Scholes against Wigan /Newcastle.

he benched rooney against blackburn to punish rooney & the other players that broke SAF's curfew. rooney has no discipline. they went clubbing to drink alcohol when they should be in their hotel focusing on the next game.

yet we wonder how ronaldo is still #1 in the world at 30. it's because he's well disciplined. he doesn't drink alcohol, he doesn't smoke & guess what, no single tattoo on his body! yet- you have overrated buffaloes like rooney with little or no talent abusing their own bodies.

In 2010 He benched Nani and Carrick against Chelsea with Bayern Munich in sight. A league decisive game with few matches to end the season. A win for United would have ended the season.

all these things are medicine after death!
we lost the title in 2010 cos rooney gave up. he injured himself & never recovered quickly to chase chelsea out of the top spot.

when the going gets tough, rooney either loses form or gets himself injured. he's never single-handed ly won us a title in his 12 seasons at man utd.

All I know is Rooney had a good season in 2012/13 considering he rose up to the challenge to carry the team when RVP went 10 or more matches without scoring. That was when we went on a huge gap at the top over City and set the stage for unassailable lead.

rooney also went about 9 games without a goal in the previous season. at least for van persie, he got injured when he fell into a camera hole against fulham.

he also scored a legit goal in that period that was ruled as titus bramble own goal against sunderland. a shot at goal that was deflected by a defender should have been van persie's goal but who cares?

van persie scored vital goals @etihad, stamford bridge, emirates, white hart lane & at anfield. that was what won us the 12/13 title. we took precious points from our direct rivals - teams that were likely to win the league were silenced on their home turf!


if SAF thought rooney was reliable, he wouldn't have bought RVP shortly after rooney scored 27 league goals. you are counting sheer numbers instead of counting vital goals that matter. you got a lot to learn!

StarBoard:
Don't really know the guy, to be honest.
Heard somethings about the dude but I hear he sent a tweet out the other day hinting about a move to Arsenal.

he was offered to wenger for £21m, wenger believes the value is too much, he wants to pay £12m. lacazette scored 31 goals in 40 apps last season.

he's a rookie & that means he wouldn't mind sitting on the bench for the elephant in the room(no pun intended). if we get lacazette, we may win the treble. he's by far the purest finisher in europe. harry kane has nothing on lacazette!

StarBoard:
I pray to heaven that transfer doesn't go through. Falcao 2.0

as you dey find suya reach no mean say you go dey cal nama your cousin. As urgent as it is to find a striker doesn't mean we should just get any old body around.

louis saha is helping to convince lacazette to join man utd. his fee is around £22m. van gaal should sign this dude for fùck's sake.

elampiro:
You are pointing to the fact that he unhappiness was not tied to the number 9 position Van Persie was playing.

his unhappiness was tied to number-9. the arrival of van persie demoted rooney. everything was taken away from rooney - including his penalty duties. van persie kept scoring, rooney's standard awoof goals from the penalty spot suddenly disappeared.

However Rooney had a good season, SAF had a massive squad and was determine to make everyone happy. Then Rooney had to go on subb and position rotation with Kagawa, Welbeck and Giggs.

rooney didn't have a good season.
if he did, he wouldn't have asked to leave the club. towards the end, he fell out of favour with SAF & he was chopping bench regularly. his importance & influence in the team diminished drastically.

This was despite Rooney having a good time in the hole at the time. He even finished with best assists record per minutes played in EPL that season.

all that didn't matter to SAF!
he wasn't going to be fooled again by rooney's form that comes in patches. rooney can score 20 goals in 10 games and then go dry for another 30 games......that was what lost us the title in the previous season.

rooney wasn't performing enough & SAF quickly addressed the matter before we lose ground to the teams chasing us. if we didn't sign van persie, rooney wouldn't have been taken off against west ham. RVP signing meant we didn't overdepend on rooney like it used to be.

elampiro:
Let me just dash you this one. It doesn't remove the fact that out of about 9 consecutive matches SAF used Rooney out of position 4 or 5 times. Dropped him to the bench once and substituted him severally . Just because Rooney's body language was negative in Madrid.

dash??
unfortunately for you, you cannot beat facts! no opinion beats facts. rooney played in the hole against west ham & he performed poorly in that role.

apart from the madrid games, rooney only played out of position twice in 27 league games. how is that reason enough for him to spit his dummy out?

This was just after Rooney had scored 11 goals in 12 games from his natural position behind the striker. Not to mention assists.

as it turned out, rooney wasn't concerned about playing in the hole. he wanted the CF position like we told you, like guardian newspaper told you & like rooney himself told you that he wanted to play upfront

This has nothing to do with Van Persie.

if we didn't sign van persie, rooney would never have played in the hole or get benched against madrid. rooney wanted to play alongside RVP(like he played alongside welbeck/chicha in 11/12) instead of behind a striker. he scored 27 goals or so in 11/12 & his numbers were low in 12/13. that was his complaint!

edwife:
Coogar why won't you agree that I love Chelsea simply because they are good.

Zouma tho.... .Coogar stop distracting me,we talking about soccer here.

I love underwear rugby,those sexy toned bodies yet strong.... these women motivate me....

so you love zouma?

edwife:
Why won't you like it? you are in the same wayoing business.....

I just love the way he bought his way out of that statement he made about condoms.... Desmond is a clown.

his policy with his concubines is what cracked me up the most. "i don't sleep with a girlfriend more than once for the respect of my wife."

i mean who says such? as if doing it once instead of 20 times justifies his adultery. that desmond is an arsëhole.

edwife:
i don't support Chelsea for any crush there,well maybe(drogba and Cole) but they are Champions and great team....

maybe mikel is your crush then. if it's not ramires, it has to be mikel or zouma.

freecocoa:
Shebi I said it, coogar how do you expect these women who are obviously crushing on the men, to go see women play?

they would watch women if they are lesbos na.

freecocoa:
On a more serious note though, you think Serena can't beat any of those men?

na yam?

edwife:
The only thing i like in her body is her butt,too masculine for me.However love her .....
I do agree that most women are really not interested in female sport,i am among....I just don't find it exciting.
I was into tennis while back in the era of Andre Agassi and pete Sampras but soccer stole my heart away....

now i understand why you support chelsea. you must be attracted to ramires.

elampawa: I dont trust your opta charts.

you are the only one that saw rooney deep in the midfield. whoscored, premier league official website & transfermarkt saw rooney in the hole.

what's your excuse now?
united played 4-2-3-1. don't use cheap excuses to explain rooney's shambolic performance at upton park. he was very poor on the night while playing in the hole.

elampiro:
I dont trust your opta charts.

we will get to that later.....

Now are you saying he a was angry because he was subbed not because of number 9? We are getting there.

he was angry at his own performance & the humiliation of being pulled off in a game where he performed poorly in the hole! according to whoscored, rooney was the poorest outfield player on the night & he was deservedly removed.

Rooney played in the wing in Madrid and CM at OT. Was enough to get him angry. At same time he was prolific from the hole.

madrid was a different proposition to the weak teams rooney had played against. it's not the first time SAF would adjust his teams to nullify the threat of his opponents.

Same period he was used in two or three league games in the midfield. These coupled with nine substitutions were enough for Rooney to ask questions. It has nothing to do with Van Persie.

rooney was threatened he was no longer the main man @man utd. a JJC dethroned him & it was van persie that was getting all the accolades.

9 substitutions are as a result of rooney's poor performance. sir alex said it himself that there's no way he could never put a fit & firing rooney on the bench.

elampiro:
Not twice.

Stoke
West Ham
Madrid home and away
VILLA.

madrid aren't a premier league side. rooney played 25 out of his 27 league games in the hole. the other 2 games were against stoke & villa. rooney played in the hole against west ham.

5 quick matches. When he was having a good time in the number 10 scoring freely, 11 goals in 12 matches. SAF liked to sacrifice Rooney. He like utilising his energy.

5 quick matches? a player who at that time was earning £250k per week? you & rooney aren't serious!

elampiro:
Sir Alex Ferguson: Wayne
Rooney will not leave
Manchester United for Paris
Saint Germain
Rooney was deployed in a deep-lying role at West
Ham, but Ferguson has stressed he has no set
plans for this position in future.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/10005355/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Wayne-Rooney-will-not-leave-Manchester-United-for-Paris-Saint-Germain.html
This is the West Ham match. I remember people said Rooney didnt do well in midfield for the first time.

you like confusing yourself.
speculation of rooney moving to PSG in this match was because SAF took rooney off & rooney wasn't happy about the sub. rooney played in the hole.....

jones & carrick started the game, so where did rooney play? maybe jones or carrick were in the hole and rooney replaced one of them in the central midfield? abeg, stop arguing. all the passes rooney received that day is here with me & he was in the hole.

bigkesh:
Calm down,surely not comparing.....That was just a way tell the extent of spending

we are a big club!
stop comparing the shopping list of mike adenuga to basket mouth's shopping list. the prices of players are doubled when united appear in the market.

freecocoa:
Ofcourse women can and they have,Williams will beat Federer hands down, dey there.

williams will even beat nadal & djokovic. i do not doubt that at all. she should play in the men's category in the US open coming next month.

See you later dear, my bed calls.

don't let the bugs bite.