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FamilyRe: What To Do - I Am A Man Who Can't Have Kids by coogar: 7:44pm On Jul 15, 2015
njokusboy:
Nd the American doctors couldn't come up with a better solution? If she had done the surgery, she prolly would be alive by now..... assuming ur assertions are correct, that is..
not every growth requires surgery. as at the time she was diagnosed, the size of the cancer must have been so minute for the american doctors to rule out surgery. anything could have happened between 1998 till 2014. how do you know she kept to the advice given to her as far back as 98? what makes you think she followed her prescriptions religiously?
FamilyRe: What To Do - I Am A Man Who Can't Have Kids by coogar: 6:31pm On Jul 15, 2015
5minsmadness:
You are wrong in this one coogar. Our docs made the right call. They made a clinical diagnosis and from experience let Dora know she needed surgery immediately. She went abroad and the american doctors relied on thier tests and said she didn't have cancer.
they didn't say she didn't have cancer. they said what she has as at 1998 isn't big enough to require surgery so they prescribed drugs to her.

They gave her drugs instead. By the time the diagnosis of cancer was made it was too late (stage 4).
The Nigerian docs were right.
the first diagnosis was in 1998. she died 16 years later. if the first diagnosis required surgery, she wouldn't have lived for another 16 years. cancer don't wait that long to do its damage in humans!
Music/RadioRe: Eminem Pens Letter To Tupac's Mother, Afeni Shakur by coogar: 3:55pm On Jul 15, 2015
Shymm3x:
I think we'll just agree to disagree.

The Game is a dyck rider and he changes his story far more than the weather. He said Easy-E was the greatest. Then he was dyckriding 2pac. Moved from Pac to Snoop. Then left Snoop for Ice Cube and Nas. But now he's all over Biggie's nuts. The guy is bipolar, though I'm a big fan of his first three albums. grin
the game isn't even dïck-riding eminem here - he's just stating the truth. he said even when he was going at it with fiddy & the entire G-unit crew, he left eminem out of it cos no rapper wants a war of words with eminem. he said he would run for his life if eminem comes at him.

let's even assume the game is cöck-riding, was rakim còck-riding too? how come rakim never compare pac to muhammad ali? rakim kept saying eminem is nasty! eminem is nasty! that's the depth of eminem's lyricism. you have to study it to understand. forget the message, pay attention to the structure & the technique he uses in his lyrics.

darkenedrebel & shymexx - this shouldn't degenerate into a cussfest na. you guys can both agree to disagree - we all cannot have the same favourite, this is why rap is beautiful. some folks actually believe kanye is the best that has ever touched the mic in the rap industry. some believe is mode9, others think it's lil wayne.

make una stop the back & forth before the mods lock the thread biko!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:51pm On Jul 15, 2015
hensben:
Your thinking faculty is very low i swear. Go check history between chelsea n man u who accommodate africa/black players most, so because some group of people did something away from england and stamford bridge is now chelsea's fault. lol. Giggs(one of your player) fvck him brother wife for years, what will you call that huh.
stop being an idïot!
you sound like an illiterate talking about who accommodates black players more. so you want to compare philanthropic investments like setting up foundations & charity organisations in africa to giving celestine babayaro & mikel obi £50k per week?

were you born brain dead?
do you know how many children are benefitting from the MUFC/UNICEF project in africa? we are talking about things that are improving human lives in the poor parts of our continent & you are talking about giving contracts to gallas & loic remy.

it's fair to say you have the brain power of a pubic louse!
FamilyRe: What To Do - I Am A Man Who Can't Have Kids by coogar: 3:47pm On Jul 15, 2015
njokusboy:
Doctors are careless everywhere, Dora Akunyili was told she didnt have cancerous cells by An american doctors against the diagnosis of her Nigerian doctor, fast forward, she died of cancer..... nowhere is safe
don't misappropriate the facts!
she wasn't told she didn't have cancer. she was told she didn't need surgery like naija doctors had recommended. the american doctors only said her problem back then wasn't enough for surgery to be carried out.

they prescribed certain drugs for her and she got better with time. whether she took the drugs administered to her would always be a reverberating question. it was in the same america she was told she had cancer eventually after many years. the original diagnosis by the nigerian doctors in 1998 was correct but solution they proffered(surgery) was wrong!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:38pm On Jul 15, 2015
bigkesh:
Hahaha,Another rubbish.....
Mourinho Visited Nigeria to Open an Academy.....
Mourinho has nothing to prove about his love for blacks...
United were invited for the pre season ,Has any Mourinho team been invited??
you are an idïot!
when has mourinho ever taken any of his team to africa so that the fans can see the players in the flesh? are you a patient of cerebral palsy or what has any of jose's team gotta do with academy?

nah, if chelsea want to do a preseason tour in africa, they would do it. they don't have to be invited. the brand itself should get interested stakeholders on board to make it happen. are you this morönic not to know chelsea games in nigeria would sold out?

U just run ur mouth or hand saying rubbish, Telling me Chelsea is racist..... A Terry that played all his life with blacks at Chelsea is a racist? How dumb can one get?
so why was terry punished by the FA for using a racist slur?
Music/RadioRe: Eminem Pens Letter To Tupac's Mother, Afeni Shakur by coogar: 3:33pm On Jul 15, 2015
Shymm3x:
You still aren't debating based on the nucleus of what hip hop is about: content and storytelling. Pencraft is just on the peripheral, and that's basically what ya whole argument is about. I'd wager that if 2pac really cared about pencraft, he would've done it cos he was far more educated than Eminem. Heck, when he first started rapping in Oakland, his name was MC New York, but according to him, he had to drop all that NY complex rap, for more content and storytelling to get his message across.
see eh!
i know everything about 2pac. i was raised in the golden age era of hip-hop. there's no 2pac album i don't have on my i-pod although i was more of a biggie fan when they were both alive. 2pac was my 2nd favourite rap artiste in that era.

Also, if pencraft were to be the yardstick - Em still won't even be top-3. MF Doom, Tech N9ne, Big Pun, Keith Murray, and The Rugged Man - even Black Thought and Kool G Rap - have/had better pencraft than Em. For punchlines - Big L was forever the king of punchlines.
eminem is better than all these names. you just have to analyse eminem's lyricism to see what we are talking about. you focus on what was said, i am more about how it was said. this is why we have opposing views about this.

This isn't about battle rap - this is about rap music. Even in battle rap, Em was schooled by Rhymefest.
and it was eminem that got a record deal from dre........which then tells you that had eminem appeared on that stage as a los angeles rapper with a black skin, he would have won the competition. there were 6 draws between them in the final before eminem lost out to his opponent who had the homefield advantage!

Honestly, the basis of ya argument sounds like comparing that naij clown that uses a lot of incoherent Latin words to Prof. Wole Soyinka when it comes to being a wordsmith. grin
it's not about using big vocabulary otherwise canibus would be high on the list. eminem uses words like its never been used - he bends those words to fit a rhyme pattern. he weaves around metaphors & kills any joint with amazing punchlines.

did you not see jay-z struggling to keep up on renegade? eminem simply showed why he should never be underestimated. he schooled jay-z with flow, delivery & excellent penmanship..........and jigga was the king of NY when this happened. there's a difference between bubblegum rappers & eminem.

Lmao @ the first paragraph - I can't even respond to that. grin
hehe!!!

I'm a hip hop head and I don't care about what technicality whatever rapper brings to the table. I'm more into the street poetry, content, the art of storytelling - and what I can relate to. I've more formal education than all rappers, and my pencraft is supreme - I don't care about whatever words a rapper strings together. The message is the most important thing - that's why I listen to music.
that's exactly what i said earlier.
we look for different things in the art of rap & this is why rap is the essence of living, people get different "highs" from it. if it's about the art of storytelling.......biggie, nas, 2pac are high on the list. eminem can also do it(stan, brain damage, my fault, etc are testimonies) but he doesn't do it as much as the aforementioned rappers.

if it's about the other elements that make a rapper fearsome, eminem is better than all of them put together. eminem shreds his foes. you saw how he singlehandedly destroyed the source magazine - the holy quaran of hip-hop! even rakim said if eminem was a black man, he would be held in the same pedestal as muhammad ali. i think that's the highest form of respect you can give a white boy in the art of lyricism.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbHPpdPhlic

maybe that video clip would convince you a bit. eminem is lyrically insane! you don't want a war of words with him.
FamilyRe: What To Do - I Am A Man Who Can't Have Kids by coogar: 3:14pm On Jul 15, 2015
crackhaus:
Your exaggerations are Oscar-worthy grin
naija hospitals kill more people annually than auschwitz concentration camp. i don't trust what any doctor says there. 2 of my friends lost their moms in naija hospitals through negligence & their lack of professionalism!
FamilyRe: What To Do - I Am A Man Who Can't Have Kids by coogar: 2:09pm On Jul 15, 2015
MrsMourinho:
12?shocked
yes, 12
nigerian doctors are mostly quacks! you cannot even be sure the semën test was conducted in the appropriate physical conditions. many people that are infection-free have been told they have HIV. the ones who actually have it have been told they do not have it. it's a clusterfück! he needs about 12 different tests from different parts of the country to ascertain he is being told the truth!
Music/RadioRe: Eminem Pens Letter To Tupac's Mother, Afeni Shakur by coogar: 2:07pm On Jul 15, 2015
Shymm3x:
You just defeated your whole argument with this.

What was rap music created for - storytelling, content, poetry, and hood news - or technicality on how words are arranged? The debate is about hip hop, not how to be a writer. And no serious minded person trying to educate himself on pencraft would listen to a rapper, or any musician for that matter, for inspiration. They're mostly poor writers with little or no formal education.
this is where you get it wrong bro.....
eminem has a better penmanship than 2pac or even biggie! eminem's vocab pool is larger - this is why he's one of the best writers to ever do the game.

putting polysyllabic rhymes together actually makes you do more research on words cos you are constantly looking for words that rhyme with certain vowels. eminem said so himself that the dictionary was his favourite book when growing up.

don't compare rappers that emerged from the battle rap circuit to poets like nas or 2pac. haba, you are a disciple of smack DVD. which of your iconic rappers(dead or living) in the industry can stand toe to toe with loaded lux when it comes to excellent verbiage?

that's the difference!!!

I believe the whole debate is just about nothing really. You can win a debate against an hip hop head when the premise of ya argument is primarily about technicality of style - not what the nucleus of what the subject matter is about: which is content.
anybody can write songs....
hell, davido & whizkid are even doing that these days but it's when you actually analyse those lyrics and see the thought & craft put into it that you would appreciate the joint. this is why eminem can say a whole lot of shyte repeatedly about his mom & still have people buying his albums.

it's not that we are interested in his difficult upbringing, we are only anxious to see which unlikely words eminem is going to string together as rhymes. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:54pm On Jul 15, 2015
igbsam:
chai, coogar don give this guy work. He will rape google's ass now looking for something to bring down this thing wey u tell am. I bet most of them don't know SAF has a foundation in Africa. They just argue with their kenke filled brains.
don't mind these illiterates who just talk out of their arsë! SAF has helped more poor people in africa than dangote, adenuga & GEJ put together.
Music/RadioRe: Eminem Pens Letter To Tupac's Mother, Afeni Shakur by coogar: 1:52pm On Jul 15, 2015
Shymm3x:
Coogz, I'm done with this topic. I just lost my appetite. grin

Someone just said Ibime of NL raps better than Nas and Big L is a better rhymer than Biggie. grin

I'm out.
you know a writer like me cannot disagree with that claims.

i think you only listen to the content. writers actually look at how the words are arranged. you can be saying hippydy blah blah & writers wouldn't care. it's all about the technical aspect of it - perfect timing of rhymes, multis, punches and wordplay.

what 2pac & nas did was just poetry!
if i wanna listen to such, i would grab a book by robert stevenson. if i want to listen to hilarious punchlines that would make me jump off my seat......it's eminem and big L. no one aspiring to be a writer would see 2pac as an inspiration. you cannot learn anything from the way he writes.

however, you will benefit from listening to him just for the entertainment!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:41pm On Jul 15, 2015
bigkesh:
United fans calling Chelsea a racist clubhuh did I miss somethinghuhhuh?

hahaha,how many blacks did That racist punk called Ferguson sign or use as a Manager..... We all know how he treated Pogba....
yet your stupïdity rears its head again.

it was only SAF that consistently took his team to africa(the home of all black people). SAF even played in abuja with his team.

show us anytime jose mourinho has taken any team to africa or when chelsea fc have taken their team to africa for pre-season.

SAF's investment in charity organisations in africa is much more than the entire value of chelsea fc. you only support chelsea, their management does not value you as a fan. this is why they would never take the team to africa so you can at least see your darling team in the flesh!
Music/RadioRe: Eminem Pens Letter To Tupac's Mother, Afeni Shakur by coogar: 1:36pm On Jul 15, 2015
Shymm3x:
So, you judge greatness by soundscan statistics, no? Based on that logic, I'd wager that both MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice are greater than Kool G Rap and Rakim then, yes?
the difference is - mc hammer & vanilla ice didn't consistently go against public opinion over social issues. they kept it rap! they had no real enemies. eminem was constantly against the american govt! bush, dick cheney, hilary clinton & the current elephant in the room(LGBT) have all felt eminem's wrath through his lyrics.

GLAAD staged a massive demonstration in the 2000 grammy awards protesting against eminem. you don't go against GLAAD in america & prosper. politicians can't touch them, illuminati don't mess with them. eminem took them down & still he still tops the soundscan charts.


he must be doing juju! grin

That's basically ya premise, while forgetting the fact Eminem's race played a big role in his soundscan stats, and he alludes to it all the time cos white folks are the ones who buy music due to economic advantage.
his race has nothing to do with it!
eminem grew up in a black neighbourhood. he had black friends, he lived a black lifestyle. his best friend from childhood to adult was a black guy. truth is, eminem is more negroid than your regular will smith, obama & tyler perry. the race has nothing to do with it, the environment is the koko.


2pac has a career span of 5 years - from 1991 when he released 2Pacalypse Now, to 1996 when he died. However, it took Eminem 15 years, from 1999, to 2014 - to break that soundscan record of 2pac. That's greatness right there.
eminem overtook 2pac as far back as 2009 from his 5th album. 2pac had about 15 albums to cop 80 million units. eminem achieved it with 5 albums. grin

You can never be greater than ya god - hence Kobe Bryant will always be in the shadow of Michael Jordan. Supremely mathematics. grin
michael jordan was inspired by his big brother, larry jordan. we should then conclude larry is the greatest basketball player in the world. grin

Read Eminem's letter again and celebrate the real GOAT! cool
2pac is great in his own rights & in his own era. biko, don't compare what eminem pens as lyrics to what 2pac did. 2pac was basic, eminem is complex. 2pac can be described as a dial-up internet connection, eminem is fibre optic broadband internet. grin
Music/RadioRe: Eminem Pens Letter To Tupac's Mother, Afeni Shakur by coogar: 12:04pm On Jul 15, 2015
Shymm3x:
Lol. Aren't 99.999% of rappers homophobic? grin
99.99% of rappers do not have eminem's soundscan statistics & that is the difference. if you are a regular homophobic rapper, you would remain underground. eminem is the highest selling rapper in the history of mankind. his numbers have condemned 2pac's to a lilliput status

Anyway, Eminem just bowed down to worship the god of rap. Heck, even Em will tell you that he's not fit to clean 2pac's shoes. grin
everyone was inspired by someone.
a teacher taught you mathematics & fraction when you were young. is it fair to say you dunno more than that teacher today? 2pac was in the game well before eminem - it's only natural for eminem to look up to him. it's got nothing to do with their skills on the mic!
FamilyRe: What To Do - I Am A Man Who Can't Have Kids by coogar: 11:59am On Jul 15, 2015
Brian2015:
Hello ALL,

I am looking for advice:

I have been to my doctor and done some tests, I can not father a child. My wife and I are desperate to have a family and I have been considering donor sperm. Will people know that this is not in actual fact my biological child?

any advice or help will be greatly appreciated

thanks
your doctor could be talking trash! confirm from 12 other doctors. if the diagnosis is consistent, adopt a child!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:47am On Jul 15, 2015
hensben:
But chelsea fan don't rate azpi above any player, he is good, we appreciate his defensive skills unlike you guys. Btw, Terry was our best defender last. season. Chelsea never parked the bus against psg, you are spewing trash. top teams in england? lol thats what we call massive defense massive attack, arsenal did it against man city they won. Chelsea defeated man u, liverpool n arsenal with it, played draw with man city(home n away). Chelsea don beat barca with 10-men before, after 2-0 down so nothing new there.
you don't rate azpilicueta because class is not something you can associate with chelsea fc. chelsea are a racist club - we all saw how you disgraced the premier league when your fans pushed a black man off the train in paris. you are a boil on the arsë of humanity!

it's embarrassing that pitiful negroes like yourself still support the club where you are seen as a rabid dog or seen as a slave in shackles. if you & the other black people supporting chelsea have any iota of dignity in you, you would burn your shirt & find another club to support.
Music/RadioRe: Eminem Pens Letter To Tupac's Mother, Afeni Shakur by coogar: 11:40am On Jul 15, 2015
Shymm3x:
Cc: coogar

@AAinEqGuinea

Coogz, ya favourite rapper just wrote a letter to the mother of the real GOAT (Nas is also up there).

Willie D of the legendary Geto Boys also talked extensively last week on why no rapper - dead or alive - especially Biggie should never be compared to 2pac. Scarface always have tears in his eyes when talking about 2pac. Treach of Naughty by Nature gets emotional whenever 2pac is mentioned etc.. Hail Mary is arguably that tune that makes every rapper bow down when talking about 2pac. Greatness.

I need to write a letter to Afeni Shakur as well, about how Pac's music saved my life and how his words always give me hope whenever I'm in a dark place. The most inspirational artist ever to all kids from disadvantaged backgrounds - who're the overwhelming majority of folks on this planet. Hip hop's Jesus - we miss you! grin
if 2pac was still alive, he would be learning the power of lyricism from eminem. eminem is the face of rap. he's fearless, he's unique, he's the rap god.

while notable icons in the western world are scared to say shyte about LGBT, eminem is the only one out there that constantly uses homophobic slurs and corporate america can't do shyte about his record sales.

even obama can't do without faggöts to keep his political party relevant. eminem curses them, shytes on them & his record sales still climbs. he was supposed to have a gig at hyde park last year....the faggöt community petitioned him as an enemy of the homösexuals & the gig got cancelled. eminem took the gig to wembley stadium and wembley sold out!

the fear of the rap god is the genesis of wisdom! grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:52am On Jul 15, 2015
hensben:
Tell your comrade to stop the trolling on chelsea thread then i will back off...Man united fans are the tout here, they spew trash all the time both on n offline. Are truck pushers not human being, i know of a truck pusher then that own a house n car, he speak with wisdom unlike most of you here or you. I repeat only ignoramus will rate schnederlin above matic base on stat. As a player, the pressure playing for chelsea, man u, barca, real madrid and bayern is not same with a player playing for southampton, everton, villareal, wolfsburg. He is not even a starter in France national team. Let's see what he can do at man u (big club).
azpilicueta is your best defender, he doesn't start for spain. what has his nationality gotta do with his football? schneiderlin is better than matic in every football parameter that matters so put a sock in it.

hensben:
But chelsea scored more goals than your club.
it still doesn't say you weren't parking the bus against the top teams in england. a useless club that parked the bus against a 10-man team and still lost in europe.

ibrahimovic described y'all like this.....

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e15/11023258_1412114292426262_27984151_n.jpg
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:51am On Jul 15, 2015
hensben:
Only an ignoramus will say schnederlin is better than matic base on stat. Of course stats would favor A DM playing for Southampton than Chelsea, because Chelsea is a superior team and will mostly be on the attack most of the time. You cant say the same for Southampton, with all due respect. Lets stop putting the cat before the horse, lets wait and judge at the end of season all in all he is a fantastic signing.
this is another evidence that most chelsea fans are truck pushers. putting the cat before the horse? why not put the goat or the dog before the horse?

the same chelsea side that parked the bus against their main rivals in all the games last season are now being called an attacking side. did matic even cross the halfway line when united went to the stamford bridge?

StarBoard:
Na Today?
Like I said this guy is struggling too hard to be accepted as a pundit.
he's a complete möron!
i must speak to nateevs - the kind of brainless baboons he keeps letting in should be checked. 4 years ago, a fool like hensben wouldn't have been allowed to post on NL.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:07pm On Jul 14, 2015
chrisley024:
Anyone thinks we'll bid for Lewy when the captain, that must start, is here. I pray it happens though.
everyone knows we cannot rely on the CTMS. he's one injury away from dashing our hopes. if it's not injury, then it's fitness or his overall form. every united forum, fans are screaming that we need a world class striker. CTMS is the poorest in the top 6 teams. i even rate kane higher than him.

rival fans are saying the only thing we lack right now is a world class striker. LVG would be a complete idïot if he does not buy a striker that would put the fear of the lord in the hearts of our rivals. there's no way a 30-year old striker who has only scored 20+ league goals twice in his entire career would take us to a league title.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:53pm On Jul 14, 2015
raumdeuter:
coogar

https://giant.gfycat.com/KindlyFearfulCoyote.gif

https://giant.gfycat.com/SpicyRawGoat.gif
i know the dude can be deadly when he's in the mood. he's my favourite striker on FIFA15.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:10pm On Jul 14, 2015
raumdeuter:
There is no way Bayern would sell Lewandoski when Schweini has been sold and other attackers are injury prone

Lewy and Muller are the only injury proof attackers we have To sell Lewandoski is to throw in the towel for this season
even if we dangle £40m?
there are mkhitaryan, adrian ramos, KDB, etc for you guys to bully.

lewandowski will fit like a glove @man utd. he's big, strong & with good foot work. he completely destroyed mascherano with this move.

https://giant.gfycat.com/PowerfulOrneryKitty.gif
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 6:45pm On Jul 14, 2015
premier league will be very interesting next season. there are many top managers in the league now.

claudio ranieri - leicester
steve mclaren - newcastle
dïck advocaat - sunderland

@raumdeuter,

lewandowski's agent has been using style to attract bidders for his client. he said if united are going to get lewa, they will pay more than £35m. if we can pay £60m for di maria, lewa is worth at least £70m.....£35m na chicken change.

sell lewa to us, abeg....
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:42pm On Jul 14, 2015
sinizia:
Just imagine Rooney that plays midfield in some matches for MANY seasons without complaints, suddenly found fault with the position (in 3 matches only) the season Persie arrived? And yet Elamps doesn't find any correlation with it. Elamps is clutching at straws. gringrin
straws?
elampiro is clutching at a whole palm tree. his matter don pass straws. grin

folba:
fascinated by his sttength and shooting technique with both feet
haha!
he's the truth.

elampiro:
Not all the substitutions were justifiable. It also happened that in some games Rooney got us late winners, I think that was around January and February.
if rooney got us late winners, how is his sub a problem? grin

Just that I have wasted so much time today. I would have gone back to see how the subs were made. Any way bye. I am done.
elampiro, don't run away.
come & tell us how rooney got angry when he played in his preferred position 25 times out of 27 in the league games?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:35pm On Jul 14, 2015
sinizia:
Prior to the coming of Persie, a fit Rooney will never be substituted against West Ham. Persie's new-found love and admiration and position to grab the headlines was why Rooney was pissed and wanted to be "selfish". Since Rooney has been playing "upfront (10)" according to Elamps, why else does he wanna be "selfish" if not that he wanted CF that Persie had?
elampawa knows all these but he will never agree. cheesy

elampiro:
I didnt mean he scored zero goals. Haba.
so what did you mean? you think i don't know you had 12/13 mixed up with 10/11 when rooney was useless for half a season before getting his mojo back?

keep lying to yourself. rooney produced more in the first half of 12/13 season than the 2nd half so all those your mumbo-jumbo about england manager & defensive consciousness was clawed out from the arsë of a baboon.

elampiro:
The Madrid game was actually the genesis. Anything SAF did after then became suspicious to Rooney.
the truth is out, finally! grin

Kagawa, his rival, was not in the Reading game. So Rooney gladly played out his heart for his old pals, Anderson, Fletcher and co.
so it's kagawa that is rooney's rival, not van persie? was kagawa playing upfront as a striker? cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:21pm On Jul 14, 2015
sinizia:
None of Elamps' excuses and circumlocutory twists will hide the truth. Rooney is a liar. Playing in the midfield was never the right reason!!
elampiro that lied bold-faced that rooney didn't score any goal in the first half of 12/13 season just to support his weak argument?

that boy needs deliverance. cheesy grin

Nihilist:
You have the luxury of the largest stadium in the EPL (Almost double the capacity of Stamford Bridgde).

You have one of the biggest football brands in the world allowing you to tap in to foreign markets
You have had a head start on hoovering up a lot of talented players
And you have a dubious sponsorship deal.
what has this gotta do with anything? chelsea fc was established in 1905. what tied your legs down to create a global brand? see me see wahala o.

as at 92/93, every club started afresh - with equal footing. all the english clubs just returned back to playing in europe so they were all at par.

united let their football do the talking. success on the pitch attracted more fans & thus more endorsements & sponsorships. they quickly expanded their stadium & spent their revenue wisely.....what were chelsea doing then? picking their nose? cheesy

Even with all of these, as you can see from the Net Spend Statistics, Manyoo has not even bothered to rely on the sales of players to generate funds for player purchases....and you guys still managed to post operating profits post-Moyes
why should we? we are not a selling club.
mega deals like adidas & chevrolet and dozens of secondary sponsors have made sure we don't need to sell to buy. that's what big clubs do.

only chelsea need to sell david luiz to buy costa/cesc. FFP have dealt with you so remain where you are in the pits. you & me nor dey the same category.

And you say Chelsea should not spend Abramovich's money to catch up.
Negro Please!
why should they?
that's the equivalent of money laundering. how do we know where such money is coming from?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:15pm On Jul 14, 2015
elampiro:
Everything happened between February and April 2013.
Wing. Madrid away.
Dropped /midfield. Madrid home.
Midfield. Villa, Stoke...... WEST HAM??

9 substitutions to allow Kagawa, Giggs some minutes.
but SAF already said the substitutions were because rooney was poor. he said in his book there's no way in hell he would substitute a fit & firing rooney - and whoscored backed SAF up when they rated rooney the poorest outfield player against west ham.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:11pm On Jul 14, 2015
sinizia:
He's out of position in three matches only, something he's been doing for over 10 seasons, so sorry, i don't buy that excuse.
in one of those matches against reading, rooney played as a RW and he scored 2 goals. so tell me how any of elampiro's theories even has any credibility?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:00pm On Jul 14, 2015
elampiro:
RVP was playing, look at his games below.

RVP was number 9
Rooney was number 10

The interview was granted in October 2013, Rooney was happy playing behind RVP in the position he wanted to have consistent run of games the previous season. The position SAF rotated him and he got angry.

Cc sinizia and Tess1
See you at night.
RVP wasn't playing.
RVP missed the manchester derby & RVP didn't start against west brom. that's 2 games already where a striker that appeared in all the 38 league games in the previous season missed.

RVP also missed the league cup tie against liverpool. this was when rooney was enjoying a free striking role alongside chicha/welbz & whoever was played upfront. as you can see, by october....rooney had already tasted the striking role in RVP's absence. grin


elampiro:
He didnt score in the first part of the season and it was reported his national team coach criticized his too much defence cautiousness, so when he focused more in attack in second half of the season and got 11 goals from same position including good assists, he was happy. Then SAF spoilt his happiness.
Bye.
rooney didn't score in the first half of 12/13 season? grin rooney scored 7 goals out of his total 12 league goals in the first half of that season. you see, your lies have exposed you once again. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:46pm On Jul 14, 2015
Nihilist:
Sinizia, Over the last 5 years, Manyoo has actually had the biggest net spend in the EPL

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-last-five-seasons/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-last-five-seasons
why is this breaking news?
FFP has crippled chelsea to spend - it's not because they just decided to stop spending. without FFP, chelsea would have continued spending like the first 3 years of the roman revolution.

no one cares how much chelsea spend - all we are saying is you should spend what the football club generates. stop the financial doping where the revenue from roman's oil wells in russia is what is used to buy hazard & torres.


sinizia:
Why has Elamps avoided this question for 3 times now? grin
because he's scared the answer will expose him.

rooney(hole position)11/12 - 27 goals, 2839 mins
rooney(hole position)12/13 - 12 goals, 2019 mins

why would rooney be angry if he was in the same position? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:40pm On Jul 14, 2015
elampiro:
Rooney was happy that the position he scored 27 goals the previous season and the one he had 9 goals in 9 matches was being taken off him.
so rooney scored 27 goals in one position in 11/12. he then scored 9 goals in the same position and he was angry? does that make any sense to you? why did rooney produce less goals in the same position where he scored 27 goals in the previous season?

you don't use logic in your argument. grin

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