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dayokanu: Doesnt it worry you that in the last 2 years no midfielder has been able to understand Torres?

6months ago you and coogar assured us that whenever Mata is played behind Torres his issues would be solved, that has been done and he has failed again

Initially you told us Lampard and other mechanical players were the problem that once technical players like Hazard, oscar Mata were bought, the Torres of Liverpool might be back. Till now everything has been done and still failed.

The best midfielders in Xavi, iniesta have been accused by you and coogar of holding on to the ball for too long that doesnt work with Torres.

So someone posting pictures of Hernandez means nothing. Ibime posted gifs of chances wasted by Torres lack of anticipation here.

If you are half intelligent you should see that hernandez getting those balls are 1 Based on the delivery, 2 based on his anticipation. Hernandez would never get those balls if he is working counter to the midfielders, MAZACAR centers the ball but Torres is running to the wings, And you now end up blaming the midfielder?

One thing we see here is Mata, Hazard and oscar have been successful with other players in the last 2 years, Torres hasn't been successful with any particular player / set of midfielders in the last 2 years.

Now deploy your senses and tell us who the problem is with?

dayokanu: How would anyone play to Torres strenght when he doesnt have any?
What is Torres strength in the last 2 yrs

And don't come up with insane things like vs barcelona when he was free on goal unchallenged from 60yards. Cos how many times in a lifetime would a striker be unchallenged and have a 60yards run on goal

nateevs: On the Torres argument, Coogar endeavours always, to make granular as well as pictorial and interactive analysis where possible. The default state of an intelligent mind is to review his analysis and discuss if they are right or wrong. Instead, it is met by dogmatic, beer-parlour like counter-arguments like "sebi he was bought for £50m", "before it was Malouda and Lampard" and sometimes you just wonder what the point is. You cannot help but conclude, each time Coogar makes a case, he makes sense.

I have not seen anything on a consistent basis from the anti-Torres campaign that engages the mind on a intellectual level. Like Coogar states forever, if Hernandez was a Chelsea player, he won't come close to his tally for United.

dayokanu: It was Lampard, malouda and Drogba fault he failed

It was Iniesta, Xavi and fabregas fault he is a bench warmer for Spain

Its now Mazacars faults he cant cut it in the new look Chelsea

dayokanu: So Van persie is expected to score from every set piece and Torres not expected to score from any?

Those ONLY 6 assists are the highest in the league. Every striker in the league score from these set piece only FernanDUD is exempted from scoring goals, because they dont serve it to him on a plate

Torres doesnt score from General market, he can only score from specific market customized to him alone

Katsumoto: Biafran Dictionary

Revisionist - The individual who provides sources (links, articles, and books) to support his position

Expert - Biafran whose position is based on 'I heard at the market square', 'my uncle/father/aunt/mother told me that in 19.."

Lie - Anything written that does not fit with Biafran propaganda. For instance, Ntieyong Akpan (secretary to Biafran Government) wrote lots of 'lies' in his book (struggle for secession) because he stated that Biafra received payments from relief agencies and that Biafra dealt with those who didn't want Biafra

Truth - Anything said by Ojukwu and Achebe

Starvation - The result of my enemy not allowing me to smuggle in arms with aid so that starving children could eat even though I have no food to give them

War and Battles - Wrestling contest between the 5 strongest warriors from the North and the East; the west must stay neutral or join me even when I throw stomes at them

Secession - The bid to leave the union which must involve the western region whether they like it or not

Nationalism - Killing non-Igbos while Igbos were cruising in the Caribbean and forgeting your GPS so that you don't know the way to Ironsi, Nwafor Orizu, Osadebey, Okpara's houses

Heroism - Killing soldiers with their pregnant wives as they slept in the middle of the night

pazienza: Shut up. Stop spreading british and nigerian press propaganda here.

The nigeran army despite all the british support and egyptian air raids couldn't break biafra down,so they resorted to using the guise of food supply to penetrate biafra,which the wise ojukwu recognized and rightly refused. It was nigerian govt that decided to stop charitable organizations from bringing food into biafra. Try harder next time, nonsense!

dayokanu: Lump the ball into the box and how come Torres is the only one not benefitting? How come Van Persie who is of similar height and build to Torres scores from set piece headers and Torres cant? In the Chelsea lineup Torres is one of the tallest plays regularly yet cant benefit from set piece headers.

So Mata selects the people he assists and deliberately ignores Torres? If Torres is in position he would ignore him and pass back to Chelsea half for Ivanovic to score because he hates Torres.

Or what are you insinuating? Mata assist others but not Torres?

pazienza: Isn't it a public knowledge that the british supported nigerian military attack on biafra by supplying arms and other military logistics to nigeria army,including hiring egyptians for air strikes.

In view of these facts,why would anyone care about what british propanganda machine have to say about biafra,isn't this like seeking for the dead among the living. What would you expect a british newspaper like the guardian to say about biafra? Some people are just plain stupid. SMH.

Malawian: yeah, there were no yorubas amongst the coup plotters abi?

dayokanu: Mata leads the league in assist, How come he has been able to assist others but not FernanDUD

ngozievergreen: The problem is dt Yorubas have refused to agree dat Awolowo introduced ethnicity in Nigeria. N he succeeded in rubbing off dat mentality to d present yorubas. Achebe was simply right.believe it or not.

oyb: those boys should sue the hell out of the festac police

there was never a case against them - the word is that the dpo in festac set them up and was demanding 300k in settlement

there was NO EVIDENCE whatsoever that either of them were the pharamcists that sold the drugs to the killers

in any sane clime, the manner in which the arrest was conducted would be called entrapment

ESULAALU: I have been an avid follower of this site for a while now and I couldnt help but open an account to comment on this topic.

Ticklishmummy must have envisaged this will happen hence her saying crucify her if you like,well said there missus and she rightly also said, she does not understand which means whatever gaff she might have committed should be rightly excused but we are all so so apt on this forum to throw verbal jibes at each other all because it is a faceless forum and the Nigerian mentality is such that it allows no room for regard or reference.

Citing examples of someone selling a car or knife does not apply here if you must know and everyone is making excuses and comparison but have you stopped to think of the torture the poor lady went through before she died? What if she was my sister,your sister,your cousin or mine?

Nigerians will just never cease to dissapoint me,sending insults across the web simply cos its a faceless forum,too bad!

Am out of here and I will have to say to ticklishmummy,''only reply the insults if you are stupid''

In the western world do you think this your examples would apply? No,cos there are rules in place that would not even allow for many examples you are citing.My people please be wise and read in between the lines before you comment.

ujoatu: no pl, understand the man. a woman follows a man home she met on facebook with no prior knowledge of who she is going home with (remember cynthia osokogu). ITS SELF-INFLICTED BRO

Annie1: Gbam ! Exactly

I know , I can never break up a home

Yes everyone around me tells me to go for it , and I know it's not right ( even though I still like him) ,

I started this thread to see other views n to make sure I'm not just been placid .

What gets to me is how he can just move , meet someone else , get married n I'm still here , not even in a relationship! I honestly thought the reverse will be the case ... It's seriously humbled me .

FBS: so all he has to do is wait for his team mates to perform before he does anything?
Besides, where was he when his team mates were actually performing? picking his nose?
Wonderful job innit?

coded guy: The team also needs Torres' support!!
Everybody must, I repeat must work for Torres, Torres does not have to work for anybody, not even himself in a sport regarded to be a team sport.SMH
He can't even stand still and score like the beach ball that scored against Liverpool some seasons ago.

kitty kat: Pls u lot shd leave this lady outta of this. She has done what u wanted her to do and u r still crucifyin her. The naggin is becomin too much. Pls mods close this page. As much some of u claim to be righteous, God doesn't see u all as such.

tzetzefly: Can we actually change the negative perception of foreigners about we Nigerians..?

FBS: Pardon my french but what then makes FT the prima donna in the team?
Yes, that's right, cos the dude cost 50 milla!
Blaming the sun, rain and the pink grass but absolving FT of any blame is pathetic.
Really, it's like I said earlier, FT's form is now a non-issue!

Annie1: For all u that r still going on about me breaking up his home , u r missing the point !

I didn't start this ! I never bothered him , he comes to mine regularly n ive never tried to seduce or come on to him even when he got married , I didnt go seeking trouble , all I did was scream n punch some pillows n put on my stepford wives face or in this case stepford not his wive face n carried on with my life

When he kissed me , it came out of nowhere n I kissed back , cos I couldn't help it , I wasn't expecting it .. Few seconds after it registered I pushed him away

Yes it's opened up this feelings , that I thought were long gone .. But I want to do the right thing !

Ujujoan: What do you mean 'nigerian society'
Like it happens only in Nigeria

Ujujoan: Not just men, women too! A lot of women marry to spite who they really want. Like you said, people marry what's available, not what is desirable.
When the desirable is not available, the available becomes desirable!
But what makes a family is beyond having feelings or even babies for each other.
I strongly beleive the OP's ex can make it work with his wife. He just needs to really let go of her (OP) first!

jennykadry: Y get married to soeone else? Cos he is a kid. Only immature men do this for their own selfish reasons. MArriage is not something people toy with. You yourself will not be happy if someone married youto spite another woman. You cannot get into that institution with such a mentality, you cannot hurt people that way for your own selfish reasons. How many of us married women in here, will be happyif one day our husbands woke up and told us that they married us to piss some other woman off?

Have we human beings lost our conscience? When has it become okay to mess people's life uplike this. If he had issues with you, allhe had to do was sort it out with YOU. Why involve someone else? Why will he toy with another woman's heart? Why will he get her involved? Why on earth will he do this to someone, has he forgotten so soon tha he might end up with a daughter one day? That woman did not deserve that. His reasons are not justified. Don't make mockery of God

I am a woman and thinking that he might have really married someone to hurt you makes me wanna wrap for you and that woman. You both honestly deserve better. I am a woman and it is just not acceptable. Date her yes but marry her to play games? That is heartless

Annie1: I've got no idea , what caused it ..
I asked n he said , tts just not working ( n it's all up to me , of I want us back )

Really weird ... Y get married if u r not in love with that person !

4llerbuntu: really?
so why have you been insisting that the other 10 players only play in such a way as to suit Torres?

anybody reading your posts could have been forgiven the club is now Torres FC.

wow, you are pretty revisionist nowadays. you mean you now agree with Wenger that the sum of the parts is now more than the individual whole?

you have been telling us that the manager and players at Chelsea are crap because they have a 50mill player whom they don't play to his strengths citing the chances west Bromwich create for strikers vs Chelsea.

so u now realise maybe the other 10players can be more than Torres? maybe it's Torres who needs to adapt to the group and not the group to torres.?

Ibime: Are you a married man? Ode!