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ritchboy: Even without checking I already know only Rooney can compete with RvP's goal+assist ratio of all the players you listed and even Rooney probably falls short. You should do your homework before you start typing nonsense of this caliber!

this was the statistic as at march 23 last year.
i can't be arsed to update but as you can see, there are many strikers in the league
who has contributed more than van persie as far as creativity is concerned.

1. Rooney 118 (71 goals + 47 assists)
2. Berbatov 110 (68 + 42)
3. Lampard 109 (61 + 48)
4. Drogba 108 (71 + 37)
5. Fabregas 97 (30 + 67)
6. Tevez 95 (67 + 28)
7. Gerrard 87 (47 + 40)
8. v. Persie 81 ( 49 + 32)
9. Torres* 81 (65 + 16)

torres joined the premier league in 2007/8 and he still tied van persie.

Ibime: How you feeling?

you would be dead in round 2 on wednesday
kompany would score in 2mrw's manchester derby that would end in a boring 1-1.

dayokanu: Is Bale also not getting that assist for VdV's goal?

it didn't touch 2 players of the opposing team. adebayor guarded the ball for van der vaart to whack it.

nateevs: Great play by Torres.

excellent link play!

nateevs: Thank goodness he scored.

your granny would have scored that!
that's bread n butter. torres' pass to release ramirez on the right channel(wooooooooooooof!!!)

dayokanu: Chelsea wouldnt have sold him, a 50m buy who was in horrible form

Would Chelsea sell him for 20m as no team would buy him for anything close to 50m

it's roman abramovic - money is not the object.
i have always known torres is dynamite. thank feck for mata.
villas-boas biggest error was not playing mata behind torres.

dayokanu: Mata released the ball to Torres before Onuoha and Kenny got it mixed up.

I am expecting 4 assists for Mata now

so how's that an assist?
mata released the ball for torres, pass was intercepted by a defender.
he headed it into the goalie's chest. 2 contacts were made between mata and torres.

that is not a goal assist, mr dayo.
i know you are desperate for points. next time, choose players who can perform.
and stop relying on dodgy situations to score points.

nateevs: Torrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrresssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!

the awakening! what a striker!!!
now chelsea won't sell him again.

dayokanu: Why doesnt Mata have 3 assists in this game

Assisted Sturridge , Terry and Torres 4th goal iirc

torres' 4th goal that a defender headed into a goalie's chest should be mata's assist?
dayo - have you been smoking lately?

michael essien in a battle with taiye taiwo.
2 monsters contesting for the ball seems all wrong.

reminds me of essien's debut for chelsea against spurs.
edgar davids vs essien and they busted a nike ball.

Ibime: And only a mumu like yourself will give RVP precedence over DD in an era where Chelsea have won 3 league titles, 3 FA Cups, 1 Carling Cup, reached 6 UCL semi-finals and 2 finals with Drogba as the central character.


Ritchboy, you need deliverance!!!

ritchboy is a goat!
only a deluded w@nker like himself would put van persie ahead of drogba or even rooney.
feck me sideways - van persie in pecking order is below drogba, rooney, tevez and torres.
where's van persie on the list of goals + assists copped in the last 6 seasons?

torres with a brace already.
sturridge's pass was peach - but then that's what torres needs every game week.
if the pass arrives early, torres would murder defenders.

ritchboy: Mr Mumu, your first statement here was "there is NO ARGUMENT" for RvP cos Gomez has scored more this season, now you're turning round to say Gomez vs Huntelaar is "arguable" when Huntelaar has comfortably outscored Gomez. . .

there's no argument - gomez has been the better striker. his 12 goals have taken bayern to the final.
it's not just about scoring goals against shyte teams but scoring the goals that matter. cantona didn't
score plenty of goals but he scored them when it mattered.

Are you blind? I've already given many examples. Take your pick!

goals win matches not fanciful flicks.

Lie. How many goals has he assisted from set-pieces? Max 4. All the other assists came from where, your SNES?

maximum 4? you are a troglodyte.
van persie's assists from set pieces n penalties make about 40% of his stats.

How long? The same Gomez that was misfiring just two seasons ago?

this is the 3rd time gomez has scored more than 30 goals in his career.
how many times has robin scored more than 30 goals?

I've already pointed out his goal-ratio was actually better last season.

berbatov's goal ratio is better than van persie/rooney put together.
what has that gotta do with the price of fish?

I've also pointed out he's 28. Are you and Dayokanu competing to see who can register more goofs per millisecond?

he's 28 yrs, 8 months. that's 29 yrs, you troglodyte!

This is the most retarded thing I've ever read. Let's even assume it's true, anyone with half a brain should known it's harder to score goals in a bad team than a good one.

charlie adam disagrees with you!
in a bad team with everything going through you, you have a huge chance.
van persie scores, assists because arsenal are bereft of quality players. i mean, who is going
to eat out of van persie's goal haul? no one.

now let's imagine robben n ribery playing for arsenal - there's no way they would be posting shyte
performances like gervinho and walcott. they would be scoring more and assisting more and since arsenal
would not score more than 120-150 goals per season then van persie's haul would take a dent. that's how football works.

Why should we deduct it? Is it RvP's fault Gomez cannot take set-pieces? Perhaps we should also deduct the goals Gomez scored from corners/indirect freekicks since RvP isn't in the box to receive the set-pieces he takes.

is it gomez's fault that arsenal are bereft of quality players where everything passes through him?
corner kicks, freekicks, long throws, goalkicks(sometimes), etc - i woulda been surprised if he didn't deliver this season.
charlie adam was knocking them in last season, providing sumptuous assists with him being the hub of the team.
now at liverpool with other talented gits like gerrard, suarez, etc but charlie adam faded into oblivion.
you think van persie would score 35 goals in real madrid or barcelona? would he even dare pick the ball to place on a penalty spot?
you must have a crater in your brain.

Come to think of it, is it not the same Sharon that used to tell Dayokanu how one goal in the EPL is worth two in Bundesliga?

haha - so gomez's 12 champions league goals(no penalty) is worth what? your diseased testicles?

ritchboy: Huntelaar has 46 goals in 47 games, he must be the best striker in Europe. . .

it's arguable. and you can also argue for mario gomez!
van persie is behind these 2 players stats-wise.

Gomez scores goals, RvP scores goals, the difference is RvP does everything else far better than Gomez. Unless you have dog-s[color=#000000]h[/color]it for brains it's obvious who the better player is.

your idiotic reasoning shines through again. what else does van persie do better than gomez?
you have to consider team structure, respective team tactics, etc. the bulk of van persie's assists are from
set pieces.

Simple question to Ibime/Coogar, who would you rather have on your team, RvP, Gomez or Huntelaar? Answers on two postcards.

i would take mario gomez.
he's been on this goalscoring spree for so long to be considered a fluke. even with talented players such as robben/ribery,
gomez still finds a way of scoring bazillion goals.

this is van persie's only time of blazing a league in his career. how do we know this isn't a fluke?
and he's 29. besides, van persie can only work in a team bereft of talented players where everything must go through him.
in arsenal, everything goes through him. all the other outfield players look for him to do the deal.

Even if i adopt your simple minded approach of judging players(stats alone), RvP's 35 goals + 14 assists > Gomez' 40 goals + 6 assists.

deduct van persie's cornerkicks, indirect freekicks and penalties scored from that stats then come back n have a proper debate.

ritchboy: This is why you are globally known as a phat phool. . .

Instead of being intellectually lazy and simply adding up how many goals scored from open play, you should also consider the quality of the teams they play for and the leagues they play in, not to mention their style of play and overall contribution.

Is a penalty any less legit than a tap-in or an offside goal? Maybe we should start subtracting those in future debates as well.



How many games did RvP play in Europe? How many goals did he score? Gomez has 12, good for him, why is Europe more relevant, other than the fact it supports your argument?

You are either being intentionally deceptive or you're a block-head. This is like saying " David Silva may be more skillful than Junior Agogo..."

RvP's technique is light years ahead of Gomez, i don't know what rubbish you are chatting here. Gomez can only score goals(not exactly rocket-science at a top-club), but when you have a player that can score goals as well as create, "keep shape"([c] Nando ) and ask the opposition different types of questions then you know that's rare.

Where was Gomez' "deadly efficiency" when he was spurning chance after chance v Madrid? What do you know about Muller? What you read on Goal.com?

Even if i adopt your simple minded approach of judging players(stats alone), RvP's 35 goals + 14 assists > Gomez' 40 goals + 6 assists.

ritchboy, no argument.....
gomez has been better than van persie in the current season.
the nazi beanpole might lack skills but everything he's hit this season turned to goals.
40 goals in 41 stats - only messi/ronaldo are better than gomez as far as goalscoring is concerned.
some would even wager huntelaar's season has been better than van persie's.

Onegai: You meet a guy. He comes off as a player, you run. He pursues, you run harder and faster. You play all sort of tricks to get rid of him "come and meet my folks, be in a committed relationship with me before sex". He swears that he wants a good girl and you're it. You tell him "sure, but no sex." Afterall you've been celibate for years without him, and you assure him there's no need to spend his money, please don't try and buy you.

He chases you, and you meet a friend or two, or his coworkers. You begin to trust and let your guard down. The sex happens.

All of a sudden, this nigger realises you're childish. And gosh, so over-emotional. He asks for a break. You're in tears and you're begging and pleading, wondering why he won't even accept the fact that he's partly to blame for the fights, as it takes two to play with one's emotions. But no, if in a conversation, he says there's no problem in double dating and you tell him you will deal with him should he dare, he hears "She will kill me, omo, run". He's treating you like you slept with his bestie, rather than you just deleted him off your bb. He ignores you, you ask what's wrong, no answer. Then you try and move on. And he blasts you for daring such. You try and resolve this and he says it's always your fault.

"Why did you delete me?? You're a child"

You finally agree on a break. You send messages during that time, he replies sporadically. Yet if he sends you a "Hi" and you don't reply, pepper will pour down the BB line. He strings you on, over and over, and you fall. After all, he knows you don't have experience in dating, whilst he's dated the whole world. Everyone advises you to blank him, but you reason "we're mature adults, we should be able to talk, we had no real problems". But one day, you've finally had enough, and you leave. Then one of two things happen:
He hears you're moving into a new relationship, sends you message to try and see if you are still keeping his spot open, then comes on NL asking how to get you back or
He comes on NL, to complain bitterly that there are no good girls

The reason I'm asking is that I know sooo many guys doing this, it's no longer funny. And it's always the same crap, and almost a year later, if they could put their pride away or confirm she still likes them, they would beg the chick. So why not focus on the job in the first place?

diary of a mad black woman!

dayokanu: I am not too worried about the size sef.

But the guy just doesnt make right decisions with the balls either runs too much or hold the ball for too long

i would say the same for nani as well. would you then say nani is not talented?
marin cannot be worse than malouda/kalou so he's a plus.

Ibime: I am not enthused by our signing of Marko Marin - with Lukaku going on loan in opposite direction.


Dayo,

What do you reckon of Marin's progress in the last 2 years. He has not come on as expected IMO.

I've never liked the guy - too small, gets bullied off the ball, and doesnt make the difference in the final third. However, looking at the price - £7m, its not too bad.

If we can isolate him in space where defenders cannot physically impose him, he can be more effective.

Fingers crossed, he will do better at Chelsea.


Dayo, please give us the final word on this signing.

marko marin is a brilliant player on playstation. one of my most trusted foot soldiers when it comes to the crunch.
yes, he's a lightweight but so are david silva and juan mata and we know how those spaniards turned out in the english league.
i think marin is talented but he hasn't reached the dizzying heights of 2010 when he was playing alongside mesut ozil.
he cannot be worse than malouda/kalou - i would say he's a very good acquisition.

dayokanu: Jose played his first few classicos in that exact manner and still didnt get any white handkerchief

dayokanu, stop embarrassing yourself.
jose's first classico ended up in a disaster, he lost 5-0 and he did not deploy catenaccio.

dayokanu: 11 more attacks, 8% lead in possesion. If thats not domination then what is?

You need Gurumaharaji

attacks like shooting haphazardly from 20 yards? that's domination?
dayo - go and sit down. stop bigging up rubbish. bayern won via penalty shoot-out.
the aggregate was 3-3. you no sabi jack for football.

i heard you were arguing the other night that torres was offside and his
goal shouldn't have counted. is it true?

Nebeuwa: Houston we have a problem.

Nigerian Teeager, Victoria osoteku Bags 12 Years imprisonment in UK
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Obi Nwokeh, Christopher Omoregrie & Samson Odegbune Jailed For Murder In UK
https://www.nairaland.com/919450/obi-nwokeh-christopher-omoregrie-samson

Like I said, there seems to be a gang problem amongst Nigerians in the UK. Instead of some of you sticking your head in the sand, you need to come up with solutions to ending this problem.

this same case has been in the news since 2009/10 circa. some group of students haunted a dude and
murdered him in the present of 3,000 tube passengers @ victoria station in broad day light. the manner by
which these teenagers went about it with reckless abandon made it such a big story and trust the british media
to feast on the news....

Ibime: they've scored much better.

Ask Barca about Lamps goal at the Nou Camp few years ago.

this yeye goal in comparison to that ramirez's goal @ nou camp?
a man down, 2 goals down and he already knew he won't be playing in the final.
then the technique, the exact weight on the ball to chip and dip before entering the net?

ibime - this is why majority of the posters here think you are a fat imbecil[i]e[/i]!

Ibime: Only goes to prove what Ive been saying all season long. . . Ramires is only good for running from the wings.

Since RDM took over, Ramires has not played central midfield for one minute. . . better central midfielders are doing the job.

Like I've said several times, Ramires best position is on the wings.

Ramires could not make that Lampard pass in a million years. . .

and neither lampard nor drogba would score that ramires goal in a billion years.

slimyem: i gave you already mister!

can't find the answer.
say it again!

slimyem: why are u still asking?
She is most defo!
No stories!

still waiting for the answer, madam slimyem!

BlueDiva: It's funny when people criticize sitting back and hitting on the break.
As far as i'm concerned, doing that successfully takes a lot of tactical ingenuity.

tactical ingenuity? it's called surrendering.
whilst it would be hailed in england and other countries - it would provoke the white flag in spain.

It takes a good tactician to figure out a way of beating Barca.
What is anti-football there?

the spaniards consider it anti-football.
it's not like they don't have people who would take shots from 40 yards or rely on set-pieces to score.
the fact is such cowardice way of playing football is unacceptable in spain.

Chelsea don't play that way always, we had to dig deep into the bag to bring out a plan to beat Barca.
If Pep was a decent manager he would have come out with a strategy to counter Chelsea, after all he knew we were going to play that way.

pep is a world class manager. his records speak for itself. the club he manages play with a certain
philosophy and pep would not sacrifice that philosophy in the name of winning a game. how's that hard to understand?

To say that Barca will rather play in a certain way at the detriment of winning is bollocks.
Thankfully, teams are beginning to get used to their style of play now.

this is why many consider you an odious observer.
under pep, when has guardiola played any other way apart from tiki-taka?

even with few mins to play and elimination imminent, barcelona did not alter how they were playing.
they kept passing it n passing it hoping there would be an opening. they could have done it the stoke way too but to what end?

chaircover: Lesson Number 3

Good Quality Scented candles & good sensual music. The voice too is very important and not just the beat; so in comes Michael Bolton & out goes Tosin Martins (his voice is too high)

Leave the candles burning for a good hour or so before you hit the bedroom. The light from the candle should also be the only light in the bedroom

what about terry g or ja rule?

dayokanu: Go and ask UEFA what big chances they wrote on their website mean

Is Barca Chelsea the only kind of dominance that exist?

Tyson beat an opponent to death

Tyson beats an opponent to coma

So we can say since he didnt beat the other to death that wasnt domination

you're a buffoon!
so one chance more than your opponent in a tie and you're dominant?
you need a shrink!

Idowuogbo: Hmmm.... U here stunting now, next I no, u'll go crying to Folly as usual.

Mstewwww!!!!

who is folly?
are you high on pubic hair?

dayokanu: Fine margin is when you in all stats Bayern bested Madrid at home

Corner kicks 5-5

Attacks 41-52

Big chances 2-3

Surely you need Alomo for intravenous

these stats don't suggest dominance unless you dunno what the word means.
look at barca-chelsea tie - that's dominance.

what's big chances? attacks?

slimyem: no one's paying attention?
Really?
Wait,i dey come!oh!

waiting!

You remember it from the last time you licked and lapped it up like you had diabetes and it had insulin in it huh?
Nice!

idowu licks labia?
no wonder her mouth runs like the public tap @ ojuelegba bridge!