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eGuerrilla: Nailed what exactly?

he nailed the proportional indices instead of the absolute numbers you herbs were dealing with.
there are 21,000 nigerian doctors in the usa, and there are between 8-10,000 doctors in the uk.
usa has got 300 million population whilst the uk is pegged down at 63 million heads.
in raw statistics, there are more nigerian doctors per population in the uk than the usa.

Gbawe: This is what we have tried to show the OP in so many ways. I even gave an example that totally ridicules his assertion and precisely describe the disparity of size (population and land mass) you mention that he fails to take into account.

When you have 21000 Nigerian Doctors practising in the USA , with 50 States and 310 million population, it is then only those deeply biased or ignorant of statistical comparisons who will not note that the UK offers Nigerians more opportunities in this sector with how 8,000-10,000 Nigerian Doctors are involved with the care of 63 million people who live in a Country that is a third , in size, of one American State i.e Texas. To put issues in perspective, the statistics show that 1 Nigerian Doctor serves 14,761.00 Americans in the USA. Meanwhile the equivalent picture for Britian is 1 Doctor to 7,000.00 patients !!!! Meaning the UK employs roughly , as a percentage of ratio, twice the amount of Nigerian Doctors America does. This is despite what we are told here by many, including those who live in the UK, that America offers more opportunities. Shame cold facts and the correct interpretation of statistics disagree.

I think many, especially Nigerians in America, forget that Britain is actually only a small Island. It may be, using averages, that many sectors also follow the medical example. We don't know for sure. What is not fair , or even sensible, is for someone to make intellectually lazy conclusions based on conjectures.

I think some folks are just confused with how relational statistics work.

gbawe, you nailed it!
the discussion should end now.

if this interview d'banj granted is the truth then don jazzie has no foresight.
he's afraid to take it to the next level cos he's afraid to take risks.
i want to know don jazzie's educational background, i am not sure he went through college.

having def jam in africa would pave way for upstarts in nigeria and africa as a whole.
yes, they would make money signing talents but the relationship would be symbiotic.
with def jam africa, nigerian stars would be under the same umbrella as def jam music.

def jam artistes would do duets with our local stars and in no time, naija boys would
perform at the grammys. why is don jazzie so afraid to take it to the next level? why
is he resting his laurels? to be a local champion or he's scared of their potentials?

i can't wait to hear don jazzie's version of this story.

chic2pimp: What has this stat said that we don't already know?...... One team plays direct football whilst also adopting the shoot at sight policy. The other team plays possesion football(70%) with the tendecy to overdo things at times. Which of these two teams do you think would have more shots overall?

Again I ask which Meal?

whose fault is it that you are impotent.
chic2pimp loves f[i]o[/i]replay without penetrati[i]o[/i]n. coogar just wants to penetrate and you
are asking who is capable of making babies amongst the two.

of course, it's coogar.

chic2pimp: Meal?...... Did we watch the same match?

shots on target.
barcelona 3-6 real madrid.

shots of target
barcelona 14-14 real madrid

corners
barcelona 4-7 real madrid.

[quote author=Sisi_Kill]Lmao!! That's the koko of the matter!!

When I was in Naija, I changed at least 3 times a day because of the heat!![/quote]it's his lucky boxer shorts.
the average nigerian man wears one all week.

dayokanu: I thought you have always argued Tevez was useless at Man Utd, Now he is one of those you miss

rooney was useless last season
de gea and johhny evans were useless at the start of the season.
players can peak n drop in form - there was a time mario gomez was useless too.

Wait 48hrs isnt that far.
Madrid has been battering small teams all over
The first time they met a faily decent side, Bayern tore them to shreds

shreds? i cannot wait for ozil/ronaldo axis to destroy bayern!

dayokanu: LOL

The same thing you said after Bayern beat Man Utd 2-1 in 2010

We all saw how that ended

the weakest united side ever - still recovering the loss of tevez/ronaldo.
whereas, this real madrid side just made a meal of barcelona @ nou camp.

do you know any front four more potent than
benzema + ronaldo + ozil + di maria/higuain?

dayokanu: Hungarian Viktor Kassai would be the referee for the Madrid vs Bayern match on Thursday

Hungarian? When All Hungarians are honorary marod fans due to Ferenc Puskas

if they hire beckenbauer as the referee on the night, mourinho would slaughter bayern munich.
it's inevitable - watch out for ronaldo!

@ nateevs,

united reserves are r@ping your lads on their own soil.
4-0 with 15 mins ago.

mba emeka: @ coogar.
Interesting read you have there. I was in no way ranting. I subscribe to some of your assertions and i beg to differ in a few. For e.g i saw ozeil get substituted and he had 22 passes. 11 of which met the intended target. Thats very shabby for a central creative midfielder. the truth is, the match was bigger than him. Xabi Alonso, ronaldo, benzema etc ALL had below 17 passes each (i stand corrected). They won the game so they were efficient but what are the odds of winning such games with such stats? thats the million dollar question.

that's why football is all about taking chances. he might have squandered 11 passes but the pass he threaded to ronaldo
for the winner is worth the la liga title. ozil had done his job for the season with that pass. his inaccuracy earlier
would have been forgiven by madrid fans as we speak.

In the last 10 games at the bernabeau barca has won about 7 times. The rest being draws and in those games especially in the 3-1 of this season guardiola went with the 3-4-3 formation. Mourinhos tactics,like fergusons and wengers doesnt work all the time. One can just have a bad day at the office. I feel that was exactly what happened to barca on saturday.

in the last 10 games, mourinho was too afraid. using 3 defensive midfielders and 4 defenders was too negative.
the players confronted him that he should trust them and since then, madrid have put up a better performance against barcelona.
even in the 1-3 loss at the bernebau earlier in the season, madrid were the better team but they were too nervous in front of goal.
with time, they got better and saturday's result was not a fluke.

I agree that sergio busquets had to drop deep to act as a make shift defender during the game but i would blame Valdes, Tello and xavi more for the loss than i would guardiola and his tactics. after all they were home and it has served them for 54 games prior to saturday. Every record would eventually come to an end. You also have to realize that the chelsea game was on the mind of the barca players and manager whilst playing a madrid who had more to play for as the pendulum to win the La liga resides in their ambit now (EVEN PRIOR TO THE GAME)

the manager should get the blame. had barcelona won 6-0, we would hail guardiola's tactical ingenuity!
barcelona lost and he must take some blame. busquets was toothless because of the role he had to play.
whenever madrid had the ball on the flank, one defender had to trail the ball n busquets had to leave ozil
to quickly fill in the void left. it gave madrid players so much time n space to think about what to do.
barca had been successful in the past because of the way they press their opponents beyond repair.

I agree with you too on the possession craze of Guardiola but when David villa took that shot against madrid during the spanish super cup final Pep seemed to like the goal. If players would just take laws into their hands sometimes for the betterment of the team. He needs to enforce the idea that a goal is a goal over the "try to give a through pass in front of the eighteen yard box" many teams just plan to pack the bus and hope. If chesea would survive it tommorrow God only knows and if youre asking me wether Madrid would survive a game against barca playing like that again i would ask you to look at the stats and tell yourself the truth.

mourinho has worked out barcelona now unless guardiola goes back to his old blueprint.
yes, the absence of david villa and abidal has made it easier for real madrid to catch up but the point still stands.
in 08/09, messi could afford to drop deep because there was etoo and henry who stayed up and got defenders worried.
if you mark henry/etoo, messi drops deep and kill ya. if you track messi down with a defender, etoo/henry wld utilize the space
left by that defender and still kill you. barcelona were much more potent then. there was a directness in their game unlike now.
as we speak, messi's responsibility has quadrupled with his false 9 position and no david villa(outstanding finisher)
to receive messi's passes!

jennykadry: Excuse meeeee?

she told me she's pretty and i kinda believe her.
besides, she's odikwa brilliant.

jennykadry: ^^^ . Are you still single sir?

single n was searching until yesterday when i met busy_body.

Mijiromu: My husband did nt relax wt me,he came frm work sat on a chair all by himself for a few seconds,took his bath and eat his food.we did nt play together but his boxer was smelling semen and smell was very strong

maybe he wanked in the car while driving.
the ridiculous heavy traffic in lagos could have afforded him such luxury.
leave paranoia out of your home otherwise it destroys your marriage.

for bleeps' sake, why do people take nairaland so seriously?

Mijiromu: @all seems you guys here have prblm wt reading and comprehension.

it seems you have a bigger problem with expressing yourself coherently.
you were hosting aunt flo. your husband relaxed beside you then went to the bathroom for
few moments and he came back smelling weirdly. . . .of course he must have w@nked thoroughly.

Mijiromu: It is quite normal that every woman should menstrate,it happened that at the very last day of my period,my husband came in relax 4 a while and went straight to the bathroom.when he came back he put on the same boxer he wore to work,and throughout that night the room was filled with the smell of sperm,is it possible that urine smells sperm or could he be having an affair?

your husband went to the bathroom to have a long w@nking session.
go and check the soap, it must have reduced in size.

mba emeka: @ ALL

The statements about Barca and guardiola are unfair and unfounded. It was just a win. LAST season Getafe beat barca there 1-0...shit does happen in football. These same Barca beat madrid 6-2, 2-0, 2-0, 3-1, 2-1 in the last seven or so odd games at BERNABEAU!. thats a whopping if you ask me.
Secondly madrid by no stretch of anybodies imagination play better than barca (both in that game and for close to eternity). They simply won the game. Kudos to them. Barca had 70% of the possession, more chances, and even more shots on goal. It took dogged defending from segio ramos and co and jadedness from messi to secure this win. I felt with the xavi chance being converted earlier on it would have been a different game entirely.

It is an act of the devil to conclude that barca is on a downhill because of the loss. In the last two games that they have lost they bossed the whole game constraining the opposition to just behind the centre half. Madrid had to counter and search for set pieces to be alive in the game. I also felt that barca concentrated on playing too well to secure the win- they looked for neat one twos, through passes et al. It wouldnt work all the time, you would need to play dirty some times.

But the Tall striker thingy is not neccessarily the solution. As AJanlekoko (sorry for misspelling it) has rightly said, all those solutions didnt work well. Barca should just play dirty, xavi and co can take shots from outside the box they mustnt always depend on Messi to deliver the goods.

The whole farce about messi not showing up when xavi and co dont is getting annoying. Messi has more assists than both xavi and iniesta this season and Ronaldo is more heavily dependent on ozeil, benzema, alonso and co than messi is on the other lads in barca. Ronaldo thrives in teams that play for him. Notwithstanding he is a very GREAT player.

I dont think chelsea can withstand the barage they would face at nou camp for two reasons: the size of the pitch and the lone goal difference! Mourinho needed the two goal advantage while at inter because at 1-0 and say extra time barca wouldve crushed inter. If barca score an early goal or not the game would have to go into extra time making chelsea to suffer longer. forget the argument that barca would get fatigued pressing for too long. This is not a muhammed ali vs forman fight in football the longer you dont have the ball the faster you get jaded. Thats why most big teams still nick it and beat the small teams in that situation.

NB: I am an ARSENAL FAN.

this is a rant - madrid fans cannot be bothered about 70% possession or 95% possession.
it is what you do with the possession that counts. pep guardiola is an idiot - i admire his
bravery for coming up with so many attacking ideas but there are times he's done it so stupidly.

possession is just a means to an end. when guardiola first took over, attacking was their intention
and possession was a tool with which they achieved it. these days, it seems possession is the intention and
scoring has become secondary. nobody dares shoot from a distance for fear of losing possession.
of what essence is 77% possession without scoring? pep guardiola should take some blame here.

playing 3-4-3 against madrid's 4-2-3-1 is a tactical harakiri.
with madrid on the attack, busquets had to drop deeper to make up for the missing defender thus
leaving ozil with all the time in the world to cause havoc. if you allow ozil to receive the ball
and look up for a pass, then it's trouble! madrid deserve the la liga title, they have been the better team.


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shymmex: Phuck off!!

go f@ck yourself!!

^^^ Is that coherent?

prison is different from jail - so it's coherent.
although, that wasn't what i intended.
in a nutshell, practise what you preach!

shymmex: At least, you can understand what I was trying to say in my post - but yours was incoherent.

That's the funniest apart of the whole back and forth on this thread

"apart of"? that's gross ineptitude.

shymmex: Correct the typo and be more coherent next time.

take your own advice, you homoerotic nuisance.

shymmex: That's the funniest apart of the whole back and forth on this thread. You don't need to argue about the success rate of Nigerians in America, it's already glaring that they're better off than the ones in the UK - and definitely more educated. Only insecure people won't accept that.
Back to the topic.

i didn't even have to dig deep.

shymmex: This guy is confused. Go play in traffic.

typo but the point still stands.
i expect a loser like yourself to leave the main issue and
concentrate on the intangibles.

shymmex: That's the funniest apart of the whole back and forth on this thread. You don't need to argue about the success rate of Nigerians in America, it's already glaring that they're better off than the ones in the UK - and definitely more educated. Only insecure people won't accept that.

Back to the topic.

success rate in imprisonment, you must mean.
is there any nigerian male in prison who hasn't been to jail?

shymmex: You're silly because most of the posts are about which of the groups are more successful - and how does equate to critically analyzing the topic?? You don't analyze by comparing two different struggles - you analyze by looking at what's responsible for the crime wave.

and if you're not a perpetual patient of the madras eye, then you should have seen my first contribution
on this topic. reprobates like yourself just jump on a thread without perusing and then open the cess-pit
you called a mouth and make bogus claims.

there are more black criminals in the usa than in the uk. absolute or in proportions, the
statistics are spine-chilling! i dunno how anyone would look at the life n times of young
black males in america and opine they are more successful than their counterparts in other countries on the planet.

Goldieluks: Lmao. I always knew coogar is as old as his id. Old meaty man.
Where is he?

you must mistake me for someone else.

slimyem: he's actually 69!
TRUE!!

69? of all the numbers you coulda mentioned?
slimyem, you need to get laid.

shymmex: The thread is not about: Nigerians in the UK Vs. Nigerians in America. The OP created the thread to understand "The Crime Wave Impacting British Of Nigerian Descent."

Silly Nigerians, fighting over the opportunities, and lack thereof - in two countries, where they're not stake holders.

and how can we critically analyse the topic without looking at the roots and causes of this crime wave?
the social, economic and the political indices have to be discussed at length.
guess who's silly now?

Goldieluks: Lmao, yes obj and I attended same primary school. Ode!
I heard you'll be 53 this year. True or false.....

i am not as old as you.
your first daughter is a uni graduate - true or false?

room702: Gbawe and others like him/her leaving comment only see things from one side and has no idea what is really going on in the UK. the UK is institutionally racist and the majority of Nigerians who migrated to the UK within the last 20yrs are affected by this. Generally speaking, the Asians are also affected by racism when it comes to getting jobs etc but they have alternatives like, their own businesses to build their community and provide for themselves and they support each other. the Africans/black (especially Nigerians) on the other hand have very little entrepreneurship skills and the worst part is we don't even support each other.

and we should blame that on institutionalised racism?

Nebeuwa: That is a blatant lie and you know it. Now I would ask you for proof, but I know you do not have any.

where in this world you won't find nigerians committing crime?

slimyem: what part of Muki did you see?
The punny?
Arsenal?
Biyest?
What part really?
I need to point out your mistake!

i saw her like i have "seen" you.

Goldieluks: Hahahahaha trouble craving old man. Yes its goldie, you better put your money where your mouth is pops.

see this old wench.
from a reliable source, i have been told you were classmates with obasanjo.

Nebeuwa: Geez, I wouldn't have posted this thread if I knew the backlash I would get from Nigerians in the UK.

The only reason I created this thread was, because I was horrified that Obi Nwokeh, Christopher Omoregrie & Samson Odegbune were jailed for murder in the UK. That triggered my memory about how young Nigerian was killed a few years ago, because of gang violence.

That is the SOLE reason why I created this thread, because it seems like there is a problem. No need to misconstrue my words.

you would find the same story everywhere be it nigeria, usa, uk, russia, canada, brazil.