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tempest01:
The bible New testament is a complication of books written by people that had contact with Jesus. And other apostles.

yes the compilation was done after his life.

Nope, it is known that the gospels were written decades after the alleged death Jesus. Scholars also have evidence that shows that they may not have been written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

tempest01:
You must be a Muslim who has gone through the bible.

The koran mentioned Jesus as a prophet, was his life detailed?


All your statements except the one the bible is silent about Jesus for some years I think are wrong. The books in the new testament are like accounts of different people of what transpired. Mattew, Mark, Luke, John, they all tell the story of what they heared, encountered and knew about Jesus while he was with them. Therefore his adult life will be more. Imagine your friends writing your bibliography...What would you expect?


John 4:26 Jesus talks about being the messiah


We believe in the trinity, three in one God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit


I sometimes baffle when you guys use bible portions and events to discredit the same bible though.

You know that these books weren't written until decades after Jesus was said to have lived, right?

Speechless3:
Pls am too busy for this rigmarole.

Of course you'll avoid the difficult questions.

UncleSnr:
Na you get time.

Well, maybe he thinks that if you're going to base all your beliefs on a book then you should at least read it properly.

Larryfly:
My brother, I m going through a worse condition. From your story sef you are even having fun. Lemme tell you, things can get much worse for you than it already is. I have seen how you are eager to join the atheist and disbelieve God. You think that will solve your problem? Listen man, the end of everyone in this earth is death. You could die now or tomorrow. You can live a life of penury whether you are an atheist or not. What matters is how you live that life. The only thing you need right now is God. Don't look at others that are living in splendour and think God hates you. There are millions of homeless people around the world that still loves God so much. Go and read up your bible and build your faith. God is real. These atheists were planted by the devil to distract us. They have to appear wise and intelligent cos that's how their father operates. But we walk in faith, believing that their is life for us after death. Also discover the right way to pray. You might have been praying wrongly all these while. Also look inwardly and see how sinful you are. These things stop prayers from being answered. Read and study the Bible bro, pray for the Holy Spirit. I have been as confused as you are but I picked the better option and i m happy. God promised us peace, not the kind of peace the world gives, but His kind of peace. Believe me, if you walk with God, you won't desire the things of these world but the things of the kingdom and goodness shall follow you. Try and apply the true principles of Christianity in your life and you ll be a totally different person. Being an atheist wont make things better for you. In true Christianity, you won't mind if you are poor or wealthy, cos the wealth of the world wont mean anything to u. Choose the better option bro.

In summary he's saying, dude STFU I have it worse. Atheists come from Satan. There are hobos who love Gawd. Your sin is probably God doesn't exists. Being an atheist won't make things better. Christianity won't either. But for some reason it won't matter.

wiegraf:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/21/chess-forbidden-in-islam-rules-saudi-arabia-grand-mufti

A life without pokemon is a life without meaning

Fellow pokemon fan here.

vooks:
You are still a bloody m0ron.
Does the fact that you can't 'observe' it mean that it is not inherited?

I'll let this one slide, pvssy.


First,
Species is really a vague term without precise limits. Secondly, could you please DEFINE evolution as you understand it before we proceed?[/quote]In animals, the specie line is usually drawn when interbreeding cannot occur between two groups.

Evolution is a process whereby inheritable traits gradually change over course of generations within a given population.

vooks:
Reason is my stand, what's your problem negro?

Just answer the question in a straightforward manner. Are you: 1. A creationist? 2. A Christian creationist? 3. Or a Young Earth creationist.
Or maybe you don't actually know.

vooks:
Albinism is not inheritable? How is it acquired, bleaching?
A m0ron and an idiot rolled into one

Ok, I admit that I should have phrased that better. Albinism is not usually observed in the parents of affected offspring.

As I was saying, you believe that animals can cross from specie to another but we cannot observe gradual change in animals among a given population?
That doesn't make any sense.

vooks:
Good evening my broda,
I'm on the side of reason

If you don't take a stand, it would be impossible to challenge each other's views.

vooks:
Don't be a m0ron,
SPECIATION is not evolution. Evolution is ADDITION of genetic information not REARRANGEMENT or LOSS of pre-existing information. This is why we don't look at albinos as evidence of evolution

Albinism is not evidence for evolution because it is not an inheritable trait.

And it's completely disingenuous to accept speciation but not evolution. Tell me, how are you able to reconcile such intellectual dishonesty?

vooks:
Shut up idiot,
COMMON DESCENT is based on assumptions, inferences and extrapolations that just don't add up as in the case of bats and horses

Aaaand we're back to reality!
Thanks for your mature and Christ-like response.

But before I start a debate, I'll like to know where you stand. Are you arguing for creationism? Christian creationism? Or Young Earth Creationism?

Speechless3:
Am going to be honest i dont like people like you. You see your brother ignorantly running into fire and you say leave him to his choice? You are worse than the devil.

People like you who stand for everything, stand for nothing.

You're calling him worse than a devil for being tolerant?
Let me ask you this, what makes you believe that your path is the right way?
Also, if you were born and raised in Iraq would you be a Christian today?

vooks:
This is a dumb question and johnydon22 is right on the money according to evolution, humans and monkeys share a common ancestor.

Now, morphologically chimps are the closest you can get to humans and this was the origin of the theory of common ancestor. But this is total bullshiet. Here is why; monkeys branched off our common ancestors 25 million years ago while chimps only bolted 6 million years ago. This theory if true would mean we are have more genetic similarity between chimps and humans than between monkeys and humans, right? Wrong! We share about 93% genes with Rhesus monkey no different from the chimps.

If this don't make any sense, consider this; bats and horses have more genetic similarity than horses and cows.

So genetic similarity does not tell you anything as such, how you interpret that information depends on your presumptions. If you are into Darwinism, higher DNA similarity will point to a COMMON ANCESTOR but to me a creationist, they point to a COMMON DESIGNER.

Wow! Is vooks being civil on a thread?

I now know that we're living in the END TIMES.

HCpaul:
Maybe evolusion has stoped or those 21st century monkeys have acquired an IQ that surpassess the evolution theory.

I always vocalize a claime that atheism is a logical expression of haphazard state of confusion.

Don't mind them, these atheists are confused.

Nope, evolution is still going on very slowly as we speak.

Have you seen how new breeds of dogs are formed over time by artificial selection. That's evolution.

Have you seen the way drugs like Amalar and Quinine stopped being effective against malaria? That's the malaria parasite evolving before our very eyes.

So, no evolution hasn't stopped at all.

mrsuccessful:
Total rubbish, I don't care if religion forbids it or not, all I know is that homosexuality is not of us...

Not of who, exactly?

mrsuccessful:
I forbid,

Ok. But why?

mrsuccessful:
God forbid,

The god of the three Abrahamic religions may forbid but not all the definitions of 'God'.

mrsuccessful:
our culture forbid

What culture? Before the Usman dan Fodio came to Nigeria, there homosexuals among the northerners. As a matter of fact, there are still Fulani cattle rearers who dress in a very effeminate manner.

mrsuccessful:
and we all forbid

You should speak for yourself.

LoJ:
Hello Unveil.

Your post is much appreciated. I love sincerity and I am pleased with what you just wrote. I also wish to be a man of unconditional love and justice irrespective of religious labels.

Thank you for this ray of light and love.

Cheerful greetings.

You seem to be a
genuinely good individual. If by some off chance there's a paradise somewhere, it should be people like you that should populate it.

The way I see it, doing good for the promise of a reward or the fear of punishment isn't enough to make someone a morally upright person.

Keep up the good work.

Let homosexuals be.
This shiit's getting old.
Give them their human rights that all humans deserve.
Don't let your personal beliefs obfuscate the basic rights of others.
Homophobia is no different from racism.
Nigerians, please stop being terrible people, the rest of the world is leaving you behind.

adekhingz:
I'm hearing that for the first time. Where did you read that Allah and yahweh is from jewish monilithic mythology?@coolusername

I'll give the example of Abraham from the Bible. He's the father of the israelites and arabians. In the Koran, he is known as Ibrahim.

Abraham had Isaac and Ishmael (Ishaq and Ismail in the Koran). Through Isaac's line we have Judaism and finally Christianity. Through Ishmael we have Islam.

It is stated in the Torah, Old Testament, and Koran that God blessed both lines. Therefore, it is the same god that all three religions worship through different methods.

erusen:
what did we steal and when,remember all the book of the bible was written 600 hundred years before muhammed was born,

The entire Old Testament is from the Jewish Torah.

Allah and Yahweh are the same deity. They both originated from jewish monotheistic mythology.

EDIT: Fixed my terrible grammar.

bolaji3071:
All i sense here is a man thats trying to mock God. But be not be deceived by the devil satan because God cannot be mocked.


Same bible told us that except a man be born again & humble as little children, he will not enter the kingdom of God. [b]Little children who haven't have the knowledge of good and bad are not going to hell.

Then why did God punish Adam and Eve, and all of mankind for a sin that they committed when they didn't have knowledge of good and bad?

erusen:
dude stole the stuff,started fighting with the people he stole from.

And that's exactly what the Christians did too. They all worship the same god but have slightly different tenets.

uwajeh:
We must accept that there are differences in both religions and move on.

The Bible is clear that in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. In other words Jesus and God are one along with the Holy Spirit and Christ is the way the truth and the light and no one can see the Father except through Christ.

On the other hand the Koran says that there is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet.

There is a clear distinction between both religions and let's just accept our differences and forge ahead.

Well, the thing is, scripture is open to interpretation to suit people's needs. Yahweh, the jewish god was adopted by Christianity the same way he was adopted Islam.

Allah, simply means 'god' in arabic. There's no debating that the Bible and Koran both contain characters from the Torah. In those stories, one god is referenced. So why would the god change?

For example, the Mormons are just a denomination of Christianity but they believe in some added ideas by their founder, Joseph Smith. Does that automatically change the god they worship? That's the same way Christians follow the path of Jesus and Muslims follow Prophet Muhammad.

erusen:
do nt say what u do not know mr,and so f**king what if the all originated from the religion.the jews wanted a leader to make them world power and God said no,becus non jewish are also his creations,he cant focus his salvation on one country,muhammed showed up the desert claiming jewish tradictions subscribing it to arab culture 600 after the death of christ,and the all the books of the bible and torah were written half a thousand years before he was born,yet he said they were all wrong.gave jesus a freakish name call isa,it is like someone inventing something that has already known.

You just explained it yourself. Prophet Muhammed didn't pop out a new god; he instead, appropriated the jewish god to a new religion. So I'm not wrong.

TrajansKong:
Wrong. If a Muslim says the same I see he has clear understanding of the nature of the Creator. Your problem is as HardMirror stated above: If we humans can be compassionate, how much more a all loving god, all powerful.

He is a war god, a jealous god. His currency obedience, his weapon fear. This we know and yet, against all proofs in the Bible and in the history of the church, you believe God has human sentiments, that He is like you a fawning mortal. What is a child's life to Him if that child is not baptised? That child is of the devil and must burn. You false Christians have turned away from the true face of the Lord of Hosts as delineated in scripture.

He is not a weak-hearted human. He will not be mocked!!

Yet he does nothing when people mock him. Maybe it's because there's nobody home.

chakwa:
SENSE

Babies would go to heaven because they have not sinned. Just like animals that do not have the ability to think and choose good or bad. I am not saying animals make heaven o! What i am saying is when bible says all have sinned, he is not talking of creatures that dont have choice but people who had the ability to chose and still sinned.

Understand this. sincerely, any rational christian who believe they would make it to heaven would have to answer this question- Why do you thank God that you are still on earth. MAny people who do not have this reasoning would therefore complain and shout when they hear that children were killed.

In the Genesis, you might notice that some promises to Abraham where not fufilled immediately because the sins of the amorites where not yet full. God still gave them chance to have a change of heart for a long time. People like Balaam and Jethro and Rahab heeded initially. Dont you wish that theives, rapists, murderers stop their practices or be seperated from the public(jail etc)? Well God gave time and when the time was up, He judged them and didnt allow the children to be orphans on earth. instead He ordered that they should be transferred to the life beyond-glory. Also, there are some bad things that are going to happen to people (because 2+2=4 wat you sow you reap) but it is completely your choice. if Judas has changed his mind before his cup of transgression filled up, his story would have been different so he wasnt given the grace to repent like Peter. you can check 2Pet2:20-21. Judas had been a thief, long before the betrayal. Maybe thinking Jesus would use His power to escape.

Concerning predestination. NOte this; God gave man charge and dominion over this earth. Meaning it is humans that should decide things on this earth. there is always an option to call Him to help. Imagine you were give a house, after leaving in the house for 30 years, someone comes and hijack it suddenly without informing you; you would be left stranded obviously. same thing, God cannot do things on this earth without a man been involved.

No one is predestined to go to hell, but many people are predestined to give glory to God, whether in sin or not, like pharoah. God choses the best. Someone that can lose his birthright to food is not fit to rule a nation and so would be chosen for lesser duties, if not, he can sell his nation if they would give him 5 billion dollars every year. infact, it is predestination that helps the christian race. Because God had to look out for the person with the best chance of doing something positive in this fractured world. SO there is no unrighteousness in God's selection.

The reason why there is problem on earth is because men of power did not stop the problems. to find out if you have power, decree a thing to happen on this earth and see if it would happen (ask and you suppose to recieve) . If you dont have power, note this, Some things have to get out of your life and some things have to come in. Imagine that someone who has problem with lust for various women is given superman like powers like xray vision. obviously, many people would get pregnant in addition to the good he did. Hear this clearly- Men of power from God are HOLY PEOPLE. That is why atheists should fight pastors who teach that you do not need holiness to see God-Heb 14:12. Also Rom 2:7[i] To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour [/b]and [b]immortality, eternal life.[/i] .
To become holy, pray for grace. this is grace, it teaches you to deny ungodliness and lusts- titus 2:11-12. you know 2+2 is 4 because you where taught. same thing. you would know how to be holy if you were taught. If you are not taught, do not claim to be holy or full of grace.

Also think b4 writing. baptism does not cleanse from sin, if not israelites wont sacrifice and Jesus wont need to come. Also see 1Pe 3:21: The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: .The baptism that saves is the answering of a good conscience towards God not the washing of the filth of the flesh. This is why babies would make heaven because they have a good conscience.

One of Jesus last prayers on earth is that christians should know God- John 17. Any doctrine you believe in, go and find out the reason behind it. do not ever think God cannot help you understand His ways. You would make many people laugh if when you face judgement seat, you explain that the reason why you had a strong evil belief is because your pastor or grandmother told you. In all your getting, get understanding.

Yeah but God KNOWS everything, right? So then, how can we have complete control over actions? If he truly knows all, he'll know from our birth, whether we'll go to heaven or not. If he doesn't know, then he's not omniscient.

olarwhumy6:
God is a merciful father, he cares nd love little children so much read ur Bible well nd see d proof. So why would he destroy Wat he love nd cherish? Children are God's heritage. That's d reason Christians dedicate their children to God wen they are little. when u dedicate ur child to God den leave d rest to him no even wil befall him even death wil flee. But babies dat are nt dedicated to God... Y nt let God b d judge?

You're glossing over details here. Did God kill innocent babies I Sodom or what? Was God not about to kill Moses' infant child before Zipporah hastily circumcised him?

TrajansKong:
It matters not. God's will is all. Human feeling has no place in Heaven. Babies there shall be amongst the billions upon billions who burn now and forevermore.

Kneel and Praise Him! He is good!!

Good for burning babies? Do you know hw you sound? I'm sure if a muslim was saying these exact things that you are, you'll think he/she is a complete loon.

There's nothing wrong in wearing a hijab as long as it's YOUR choice.