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treasureboy:
Does such thing even exist in the first place?

Yup.

sonOfLucifer:
God doesn't like data.

The story goes that God, being all-knowing, already knew the exact figure. It'd be stupid to say God didn't know.. you see?

It was a test of David's faith and trust. You know, sometimes GOd works like that. Same way after creating the whole universe, and all the extra planets, he decided to plant the Tree in the same garden, same planet, with Adam. It's the same trick always. God sets you up. You fall. He blames you. You feel guilty. You start begging for forgiveness.

Same shit worked on Adam, worked on David. still works on AFRICANS.


NOw who's the Devil?

Oh yeah, I forgot about Mysterious Ways™

Like how God created the world in Genesis 1 and then created it again in a different order in Genesis 2.

finofaya:
I'd suggest "Letters From The Earth" by Mark Twain. It's about the creation of the earth by God, written from the perspective of Lucifer who decided to spend one of his periods of banishment from heaven on earth out of curiosity. It's full of humour and its maybe a little irreverent.

The Hitchhiker trilogy (The Hitchhikers' Guide To The Galaxy, Parts 1 - 5) by Douglas Adam is another good one too, especially part 1, followed by 2 and 3. It's hard to describe what it's exactly about but it's mostly about the adventures of two humans, two aliens and a robot across space and time. It's seriously funny, dabbles into philosophy a lot and toys with your belief in God. Here is an excerpt:

"The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves that You exist, and so therefore, by Your own arguments, You don't. QED"
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing."

You can also try "The Miracle Of Theism" by J. L. Mackie. It's sort of like The God Delusion but it's much earlier and written in a more balanced tone. It's also somewhat tedious and long, as the author tried to be exhaustive in examining the arguments for and against theism. There is even some maths involved, in weighing some arguments and in making others. Lol. It's a satisfying read.

My full weight (54kg) is behind the earlier mentioned Jim Holt's Why Does The World Exist too. You can't go wrong with that one. You can't go right either, as the book leaves its title question unanswered. The ride is worth it, however. As the author put it, it's an existential detective story, so it's very investigative but the case remains open.

"Anansi Boys" by Neil Gaiman is nice and puts a British twist on the Ghanaian trickster God, Anansi the spider. There is a massive plot twist too.

Then there is the FSM Gospel. Read at your own peril.

I've read parts 1 and 2 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and I was very impressed.

I'm currently reading the Gospel of FSM and to be honest, it's actually very well-written satire.

sonOfLucifer:
Sometimes Yahweh and Satan trade places. They are twin demons created by Abraham.

I think the true question should be: "What the hell is wrong with conducting a census?"

Richirich713:
What about Zoophilia ?
Aren't there some people just born with a sexual attraction to animals.

Weird stuff, eh?
But animals can't give consent so to me it's kind of like rape.

unphilaz:
This fruitflies and bacteria, since their life span is very low so that evolution can be observed. My question is how can such organism be used to relate to man which is on a completely different rational reasoning and biologically different level from this things...

Because we're all made up of the same stuff, DNA.

treasureboy:
So you do both male n female? Wonders in the world!

Don't confuse heterosexual with bisexual.
Heterosexual means I'm attracted to the opposite sex

KingEbukasBlog:
You just called it "the SUPERnatural" and expect it to be detected , measure and predictions made ? Come on !

Spirituality does that not science . Science studies nature not the supernatural . You atheists rule out the supernatural - an evidence of a close-mindedness

Supernatural is supposed to transcend nature. That means that it is supposed to create events that won't be possible to replicate using conventional science.

So let someone who claims to know about the supernatural do something really supernatural, like regrow an amputee's hand in front of doctors. Let the volunteer be neutral.

Until then, there's no reason to believe.

UyiIredia:
Why not use reason to infer the supernatural. Why must atheists ask for empirical evidence whig is open o misinterpretation from poor reasoning.

The supernatural supposedly transcends nature, right. So if you say that you can raise the dead, let's bring a cadaver so you can raise him/her in front of experts. The experts will supply the cadaver, obviously.

I heard that one guy even offered a large sum of money to anyone who can perform straight-up magic in front of him. Nobody has been successful yet.

UyiIredia:
There can be bias despite peer review. It is a FACT that since the 20th century there has been a very obvious materialistic bias in science. The peer review process has flaws. All you have to do is Google it and see for yourself.

Materialism would remain the scientific method until concrete evidence of the supernatural is brought forth. If there are supernatural forces then someone should detect them, measure them, and most importantly make predictions with them. Until then, you can't even call it a bias.

That's where you've gotten wrong, OP. Science books are also critically analyzed at all times. That's why there's something called 'peer review'.

krattoss:
if mastubation is a spirit.. then morning hard on must be a spirit also?

sexual urge must be a spirit also..

then who created these things? so ur same Yahweh created the spirits.. yeah he created it and expects us to control it otherwise we would born in hell..
what a god with so many irregularities?..


mchhhew.. make Vaseline crew hear this.. u go know say somepeople love Vaseline than ur god.

Masturbation is a sin.

Man is the only animal that is on heat all 365 days of the year.

Penisinpenisout:
So you had to wait until science verified the existence of gravitational wave before posting this thread
Which means you rely on science for an adequate interpretation of the koran
You value science more than your koran. Thats a good development.

Hey, cool username!

These 'holy' books, inspired by 'all-knowing' and 'all-powerful' deities perfectly mirror the image of primitive men with superpowers.

The name 'Jesus' has only been banned from official reports. NASA, as a government establishment is not supposed to affiliate with any religion. It's shocking to see that people were even allowed to do this before. You're not to impose your religious convictions upon the masses.

So nobody is being persecuted here, I wonder why so many people think Christianity is being persecuted when in actuality, it's just being denied preferential treatment.

It warms my heart to see logic win against delusion, especially in this part of the world.

This thread just made my week.

Gen 2:17- "but of the tree of the knowledge
of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the
day that you eat of it you shall surely die"


Gen 3:6- When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.


Gen 5:5- So all the days that Adam lived were
nine hundred and thirty years; and he died.

She's been living with that kind of lie since 1940? He's free to divorce her.

kay29000:
Dude, I am non-religious. I am very open minded, that is why I put up two possibilities. But you can't just say things happen randomly like that without a spiritual or universal law behind them. Come on! Even TY Bello hasn't been able to get herself the kind of worldwide recognition the girl is getting. This is not chance or luck.

Dude/dudette, if we were to look at all the agege bread sellers who have been praying for years to get a better life, you'll see that this can randomly occur. Is it every agege bread seller that prays fervently that gets recognition?

Just because a series improbable events happened doesn't automatically prove God. Let's look at the series of improbable events that led to the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand:

When the Archduke's motorcade passed close by, the first two conspirators failed to take any shots because of the crowds and an
inadequate line of sight. The next conspirator managed to throw a bomb. the Archduke's car but it simply bounced off and fell into the car behind. The two conspirators quietly disappeared while the third tried to commit suicide by ingesting cyanide but simply vomited and was captured by the police. Unlucky Princip and the other two insurgents gave up and sauntered away.

Meanwhile the Archduke made it all the way to the city hall and gave a speech, expressing outrage to the mayor that he had just been subjected to an assassination attempt. Since the Archduke had just expressed outrage at an attempted assassination, he should have known better than to drive back the same way he came. However it seems that only one of the generals in his entourage suggested taking an alternative route back. But in the heat of the moment, for some reason this timely advice was not communicated to the driver who decided to again drive back through the city center.

While this was happening Princip had purportedly given up and was hanging around a bakery, maybe enjoying a pastry. However when he saw the car return on the same route the opportunity was too good to pass; more so since the transmission seemed to be jammed and the driver could not back up. The rest is very much history.

Source: blogs.scientificamerican.com/the-curious-wavefunction/gavrilo-princip-conspiracy-theories-and-the-fragility-of-cause-and-effect/

The assassination of this man eventually led to WW1 and the death of millions. Does the fact that the events leading to it mean that we can say God orchestrated things in this event, thereby causing WW1?

sonOfLucifer:
True. Jesus said he'd come like a thief in the night. If you doubt this, and it is truely Jesus, you will go to hell. WHY take the risk? Will it hurt you to just believe and be saved?

So that's why they call it the second coming of Christ.

martinz1:
Sometimes I wonder how a snake can actually swallow something bigger than its head size

This is because they can unhinge their jaws.

emperorchedda:
It's not everything that fits into the mouth one chews

That goat won't digest in the snake's system thereby leading to the ultimate demise of the snake

Nope! The snake would take it's time to digest it. Snakes are known to go for up to a month between meals.

Sneks for the win.

sonOfLucifer:
There is no heaven or hell. Earth is what you make it.
There is no god beside you.
There is no good or evil, only man.
Embrace your carnality for that's all you are.

Viva la fornication!

I'll be on my way now.

SirWere:
The frig??

Your use of the 'frig' makes me wonder if you're a reader of Dinosaur Comics?

Aloekene185:
liste man.each part of your body depends on another to function .likewise your whole body depends on another body to survive and all body depend on the universe to survive and the universe depends on something to survive.that is nothing but God.so God exists.my mental reasoning has once launched me into the platform of so called mental soverignity but it is a mental confusion.soon your eye will clear.but pray that your eye clears when the silver cord has noty broken

So what does God depend if everything must depend on something or are you just going to do that special pleading thing?

Muafrika2:
I was very specific with my blame. Absolve them the same way. I am interested in how it's not the whiteman fault that you can't refine Nigerian oil on the continent (or why it stopped) please use some company names responsible.

What I love about Mugabe is not just running his mouth. He has delivered something to his people - land. That is the greatest resource any man would need to make their own future. It's for that reason that land was the first thing to go when Africa was taken by colonial governments. You think he would have done it without retaliation from the "global economy?"

What international markets? Companies, names and figures. Nigeria should be making way more. Have you wondered why the mining firms are so ready to engage in underhand deals with corrupt leaders?

Singapore is beautiful. And our countries could do better at will. And even better with our stolen resources.

We're all entitled to our opinions, I'll keep trying to move forward and play my small part in creating a better future and you can keep blaming the white man.

hockeyoilers:
What's next the Aboriginals in north america were asking for it when the Christian crusaders slaughtered them wholesale?

Uh, did I miss something? Are you relying the right comment? Because I never blamed the victims in anyway.

I'm just saying that it's not right whine about what happened to you a century ago when you're not making any effort to make things better.

hockeyoilers:
For well over 500 years we pillaged Africa, still pillaging and exploiting economically to this day. You cannot expect people to just forget about it a few generations later.

True. But I don't expect a Jew to pick weapons to kill Germans because of what Hitler did.

What has happened has happened, yes it was bad but you have to move on and stop blaming them for problems that you brought upon yourself.

There's no conspiracy against Africa, our leaders are just funneling in our funds. And from what I've observed, our leaders are nothing but a reflection of a majority of the people because we see the same thing happen at all levels: police, civil service workers, even the military.

Muafrika2:
Coolusername
I do not agree with the blame put on religion and in total disregard of the economic, social and political systems that are in play. But you are wrong....

The colonialism of Africa did not end in Africa in 1958 or whenever individual countries in Africa celebrate their "self rule." What happened then was the birth of a new form of colonialism. The indirect rule of Africa by the same powers.

We may have black faces on the faces of the system (the president, politicians, CEOs of multinationals - when they let us,) But they are there as a cover up. Most of the economic decisions of African countries are made by the World bank. Who owns the world Bank? You know the piper will play to the music of whoever pays him.

Now, the beneficiaries of the current pillaging of Africa are (this may sound racist) white people. You see that petroleum being mined in Nigeria, it will, while still on the African soil, be sold to a subsidiary of the parent company that mined it at a negligible price. This is the only price on which the Nigerian/ or other African government will charge a tax. Remember its still unrefined petrol.

Now that subsidiary of the mother company has a "headquarters" in tax free Switzerland. In Switzerland, there is a World Commodity Market. That is where all the minerals of Africa are "traded". But as I have demonstrated, Africa was cut off from the trade in its own commodity by that first, below market price transaction. It's in Switzerland where real money is made. In the commodity markets. It's why it's the richest country in terms of per capita income. Allegedly, also the happiest.

Most of the trade in Switzerland is still between subsidiaries. But the profits are huge. The commodity marked is a huge, lucrative employer of the (white) Swedish people.

From Switzerland, the African resourced minerals ( also gold, copper, iron, nickel, etc) are resold to mainly European and US markets. They benefit their respective countries (white) populations in several ways, among them:

1. Bought as raw products, they get to be refined and converted into usable goods in US and Europe, and in the process, create factories, refineries and dealers in processed goods in Europe and US who are the (white) citizens of those countries and direct beneficiaries of the pillaging of Africa.

2. The (white)citizens of those countries resell to us those finished goods made out of our pillaged resources at an incomparably higher price than the prices they got it from us, in the process, recovering the little money they had left as taxes.

That is why Nigeria imports refined oil. Othe countries like Zambia which produces copper imports copper products, and so on. That is why Africa's minerals are considered a curse. They are only of benefit to those (whites) who pillage them.

I submit to you, there is no innocent white man as far as the pillaging, usury and raping of Africa, as the op put it, is concerned.

When Singapore wanted to get it's act together, it did, and almost overnight too.

It's not any white man's fault that we can't refine our own resources, is it?

Nigeria, for example actually makes some good money in the international market. But most of it is lost too corruption.
Robert Mugabe, the tyrannical leader of Zimbabwe who has probably run the country to the ground still has a lot of suppoters in Africa because he can 'stand up to the whites'. That attitude is not going to improve Africa.

Africans are biggest problem to Africa. And as long as we keep this attitude of blaming everything on white people who have nothing to do with our current state, we won't improve.

treasureboy:
And how do you mean you are "straight"?

Slang for heterosexual.

RSA:
Only Whiteman can be racist; black man can never be a racist.Although our race is the mother and father of all races we have never in our history considered ourselves a superior race.
Prejudicm +Power = racism
Wake up blackman stop being an apologist of your tormentors.
Nothing as painful like a blackman with Stockholm Syndrome.

Kek. I wasn't during the slave trade or colonial times, so you can't really call this Stockholm Syndrome.

By saying that only whites can be racist, then I can see that you may have lost perspective at some point.

I'm going to say this straight: you are being incredibly racist right now. You can't blame the present white generation for what their ancestors did to your ancestors.

LoJ:
Yeah that's great. Why your why? Didn't understand.

Do you happen to be an IT developer/programmer by any chance? Perhaps Johnydon22 is?

There was no reason for the why, it was just an attempt at fake modesty.

Anyway, I'm not an IT developer but I'm not sure about the other guy, sorry.