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AntiChristian:


The Qur'an does not contain those filthy virgin test and sharing!

But why give Yahweh only 32 out of 32000?

It is small na!

Yes that's what the Jehovah believe cos it's what the BIBLE teaches. We don't believe in men's theory, the Trinity.

Jesu also make them know that even men were called Gods.
YHWH God Himself called Moses God in the book of Exodus 7:1
Jesus too can be called God but that doesn't make him the creator of the universe.
Jesus himself said the FATHER is the one true GOD in his prayer in John 17:3

1 Corinthians 8:5-6
[5]There may be so-called gods both in heaven and on earth, and some people actually worship many gods and many lords.
[6]But for us,
There is one God, the Father,
by whom all things were created,
and for whom we live.

AntiChristian:
Of cos i understand it perfectly.

Jesus cleared himself from people thinking he called himself Yahweh!

I didn't say the Koran said it. Follow discussion.
I said go ask their spirit na. How do you want me to know when it wasn't written down?

The Koran the complete book should have a way of testing virginity then.

AntiChristian:
The Qur'an did not say virgins were reserved for Yahweh! The Bible said it in Numbers 31:40.

How did they know the ladies were virgins?

Your very dumb
Why did you say worshipping Jesus the son of God is idolatry whereas you just explained yourself that eledumare is the God yoruba worship and he have sons too that the same yorubas worship.

Among all these different Gods available in different tribes of the world, i chose the one that proclaim that He's the only true GOD and he showed miraculous signs to his people.
He also said worshipping any other god besides him is idolatry. The living God is the One i chose to worship and obey his commandments.
You have any problem with that?

sonmvayina:
Yoruba worships Eledumare,

They have a lot of "sons of god" called orishas which the Bible also speaks of in the book of job.
They go through these orishas to get to God, which God forbids....do not have any other God before me.

The Indians have brahma, with different "sons of God " too...

So you understand now? Or should I draw you a picture?

I told you I only believe in the one true God and the BIBLE.

You are only telling what the word God is called in different languages.

Yorùbá has may gods, which one of them is Yahweh?

Ogun and Sango, poeple worship this two, isn't that idolatry senseless guy?

sonmvayina:
Lol, you no get sense at all.

Yaweh is even one of the 70 sons of Enlil. And Enlil is Satan. So continue.

The creator of heaven and earth is Marduk in babylonian religion.
Eledumare in yoruba
Chukwu in igbo
Osanobua in bini
Abasi in always ibom..
Ra in Egypt
Brahma in India..

Etc.

Same God, different nomenclature....

Is that the advice from gods book imenani?
Who makes this money ritual work? God?

sonmvayina:
That is your business..use your son or daughter.

You will suffer the consequences.

But if they catch you, you will spend the remainder of your time on this earth in jail..

Advice yourself well.

Whatever book your reading, keep it to yourself

Your comments are meaning to you but senseless to me.
Jesus was a real person as well as his apostles.

sonmvayina:
You no get sense at all.

According to the jews, is that not what we are discussing.

The Jewish Torah is almost the same sa the igbo omenani. The only difference is the nomenclature and who is telling the stories....

Jesus is a Roman/ Greek creation...has got nothing to do with the creator of heaven and earth...

No virgin birth, Isaiah was talking about his young wife who happens to be the prophetess...

Stop taking text out of context..you will miss the full gist in the story..

AntiChristian:
State Moses's prophecy and show how it was not referring to Muhammad or even John the Baptist!

I told ya, Jesus fufilled the prophecies altogether. Not just Moses's prophecy.
John the Baptist had his mission. And the bible clarify it.

Go talk with spirit of these people and ask them how they did the test.

See your post shows that there's distinction between YHWH and Allah that's why I said what the Koran said.
In reality your right YHWH is different from Allah and Koran is a liar for saying they serve the same God.

The virgins were literally given Eleazar the priest.

AntiChristian:
If you know that then why say one moral standard is better than the other?
You are a liar!

The virgins were for Yahweh according to the Bible.

How did they know they were virgins? what test did they do?

It's possible but it was never referring to Mohammed.
More details were given by other prophets about the PROPHET that's coming. Jesus fufilled all the prophecies.
Jesus performed many miracles through God's power.

AntiChristian:
So do we know Moses's prophecy was not referring to Muhammad?

Lol.
Didn't the Koran say both the christians and Jew serves the same God with the Muslims?
Are you now insulting Allah?

I told ya, the virgin were for Eleazar the priest.
The bible didn't explain what was done with them. Don't just assume anything from your imperfect mind.

If we compared the law given in the Koran and bible, it would be clear that YHWH's laws are perfect than Allah's.

You haven't even tell me the reason why Allah copied stuffs from YHWH's book

AntiChristian:
Nonsense moral standard. Who told you Yahweh needs 32 virgins out of 32000 virgins?

Numbers 31:17-18
So now, kill all the boys, as well as every woman who has had relations with a man, but spare for yourselves every girl who has never had relations with a man.

All boys/men are killed.

All women who had previously had sex were killed. (I still wonder what instrument was used to do this- Sexometer or Vaginometer)

Only virgins were spared!

Numbers 31:35
and 32,000 women who had not slept with a man.

How was this known? Will they have to open them up and use a speculum as in HVS test or what?

Yahweh gets a share of 32 Virgins!
Numbers 31:40
and 16,000 people, including a tribute to the LORD of 32.

No doubt, God is not the author of confusion or nonsense!
Far is He from what they ascribed to Him.

Don't you understand that true Christians only believe and worship the Father the only one true God?

Do you have understanding of what you even quoted?
You see yourself that even men were called Gods, do you think it's wrong to call Jesus a God?

The Jew understand that Jesus claiming to be the son of God means he's claiming some sort of equalness with God.

AntiChristian:
Jesus was usually speaking in Parables. The Jews had thought he was calling himself God (Yahweh) hence they wanted to stone him.
Jesus immediately cleared himself quoting Psalm 82:6 and explaining it to the ravaging audience.

I have said, ‘You are gods (Elohim); you are all sons of the Most High.’ Psalm 82:6

“We are not stoning You for any good work,” said the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God (Theon).” Jesus replied, “Is it not written in your Law: ‘I have said you are gods'(Theoi) ? If he called them gods (Theou) to whom the word (logos) of God (Theou) came—and the Scripture cannot be broken then what about the One whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world? How then can you accuse Me of blasphemy for stating that I am the Son of God (Theou)?

Here Jesus was saying if the Psalmist called people who received God's word (revelation) as gods, then he too should not be stoned for calling himself the son of God (not God).

So nowhere did Jesus ever called himself "God". He cleared himself of these accusation above!

That's why Jesus said in Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32 the only the father knows all things!
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

1 Corinthians 8:5-6
[5]There may be so-called gods both in heaven and on earth, and some people actually worship many gods and many lords.
[6]But for us,
There is one God, the Father,
    by whom all things were created,
    and for whom we live.

No prophets mentioned Jesus name in their prophecy. Gabriel mentioned his name first when he appeared to Mary.

AntiChristian:
Did Moses mention Jesus's name? How did he prophesied about Jesus?

AntiChristian:
That was a mistake!

What?

OBALOLA55:
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SIR KINDLY STICK TO THE TOPIC

The topic is to call christians devil incarnates?
The God of the Bible has higher moral standard than your God Allah.

I told ya, even Moses prophesied about the Messiah.
Jesus promised His followers the holy spirit that it will teach them all things.
The old covenant was strictly for the Israelites but God brought a new covenant through Christ and extended salvation to all mankind.

AntiChristian:
Where did Jesus himself say he was the end of the law and the old covenant?

Do you mean Yahweh inspired Moses and Joshua didn't rule with love?

Was Moses and Joshua not perfect roles models too?

The God of the Hebrews is different from your god, Allah.

OBALOLA55:
YOU SEE WHY I SAID THAT YOU CHRISTIAN ARE SENSELESS AND ILLOGICAL

CHRISTIANITY WAS NEVER APPROVED BY GOD YET YOU DEVIL INCARNATES ARE FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO DRAW SO MANY BELIEVERS TO HELL FIRE WITH YOU.

IS IT HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT I DON’T WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH CHRISTIANITY

The whole of Old testament and prophets testified and pointed to the Messiah. God through prophecy even promise the Israelites a new covenant which was brought through Christ Jesus. That was why Jesus said he came to fulfill the law.

AntiChristian:
Where did Jesus himself say he was the end of the law and the old covenant?

Do you mean Yahweh inspired Moses and Joshua didn't rule with love?

Was Moses and Joshua not perfect roles models too?

That's one the least prophecy about Christ. What about other prophecies that were fufilled about Christ?

And you think the Koran is faultless and perfect?

Now the fact is everything Allah revealed to Mohammed was written down in the Koran.
So i wonder why salat the 2nd pillar of Islam wasn't explicitly revealed.

Go face the problems in the Koran leave the our Bible alone.

AntiChristian:
If things were not recorded in the Bible as important as the fulfilment of a Prophecy alcaimed to Jesus then something is wrong with the Bible!

Why is the 5 daily prayers that is the 2nd pillar of islam revealed to Mohammed not explicitly written in the Koran?
Or maybe the salat should just be two times a day, morning and night instead of the 5 times forced on you today?


Our Books comprises of the Qur'an and the traditions of the Prophet. The two goes together and are inseparable! If you don't get it forget about it.

Not everything was written down.

AntiChristian:
The Qu'ran contains stories similar to those in the Bible because both book claim to be originally inspired by one God.

But how does this explain where Jesus was called Immanuel?

It's well bro.
Yoruba has a lots of gods which one is the true one?
India too has many gods, which one is their true God?
Go find someone else to preach you dogma to

sonmvayina:
The same one the jews worship,

The same the Indians

The same one the yorubas

The same one the Americans

The same one the Asians.

Same God, different nomenclature...

What if i want to do money ritual are the elders available?

sonmvayina:
Same, confess before the elders

They give judgement and punishment..


God forgives...
Only in some cases was animal sacrifices is necessary and required[b]..NEVER A HUMAN BEING[/b].

You no well boss.
Chukwu meaning the great creator
There are words for god in every language and it doesn't mean they know the true God of the Hebrew.
Moses was called God, Jesus too is a God, there are some men that were called Gods to in the bible.
But the one true GOD for true christians is YHWH

sonmvayina:
Of what importance is he then ?

God also forbade us "do not have any other God before me"...meaning no intermediary or mediator.


Chukwu....meaning the great creator..

Where did you get these from your Igbo imenani or what did you call it?

You didn't see the prophecy bout his virgin birth?

I don't know which god you believe in. But the God of Jesus is the one true God. Not the demons Igbo traditional religionist worship or any other false religion.

sonmvayina:
But nobody saw it happen,

God never said it was going to happen,

The Messiah he promised is from the line of David.
Meaning he will have a father and mother. Genealogy is only transferred from father to son.
He will be a king

He will usher in a peaceful era.

He will build the 3rd temple.

He will lead people to God by keeping the laws.


All the people on earth will come to the knowledge of one true God, not necessary to Judaism..

I'm telling you not everything were recorded.

Why is the 5 daily prayers that is the 2nd pillar of islam revealed to Mohammed not explicitly written in the Koran?
Or maybe the salat should just be two times a day, morning and night instead of the 5 times forced on you today?

AntiChristian:
Where was Jesus called Immanuel?

Atheist just full everywhere nowadays

Is the Koran a perfect book sent down by all wise Allah?

sonmvayina:
Lol...J.sus. it is forbidden to write or mention the name of an idol...

Is that what you do on the internet

sonmvayina:
Lol...how do one communicate with God, if not by oracles..you are still a baby..

Don't be scared, do researches...internet is not for watching porn and arguing blindly

Who's the God of the Igbos?

What solution did he give to Igbo traditional religion?

sonmvayina:
Lol..God already gave the jews a solution to the problem of sin...

Who do Igbo traditional religionist worship¿ And have I ever declare to you that i worship Jesus as my God?

sonmvayina:
He is a creation...Man is God's creation. To worship a man is forbidden.
",Do not make the image or likeness of anything in heaven, on earth or under the waters below the earth, do not bow down to them or serve them. (Man is something found on earth) in other words do not worship anything I created, only me...and I am 1 and indivisible..Deuteronomy 6:4

Our creator forbade us from doing that..

Miracle! Faith!

sonmvayina:
But you believe a woman can become pregnant without a man's sperm.

You know it is not possible, you have to suspend the use of your brain to believe that...

Lol. Who made it forbidden and how is Jesus an idol?

sonmvayina:
Lol...J.sus. it is forbidden to write or mention the name of an idol...