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Criminal, using Nigeria money to live fancy life and carry body guard. Ole.

Obi is not smart, he is mediocre, Tinubu put it aptly, Obi is a trader, he doesn't understand economics.

headboyprince:
My friend no one is talking about minimum wage here but about opportunities.. you're not even getting his point

it's far easier to make $10k in the UK than to make 1 million naira in Nigeria.. and $10k is 10 million naira

Minimum wage jobs is what most Nigerians do abroad, unless you have studied and you got their diplomas and certifications, a lot left here as bankers to go do cleaner, care jobs, those are minimum wage jobs. No glory in that, let those that want to be in Nigeria be, no glory in doing care jobs, na poverty.

Business people make 1million naira easily in Nigeria, how many hours will it take you to earn 1000 USD, you will pay taxes, pay rent, pay bills...

Earning 9 pounds an hour abroad will still keep you at the bottom of the food chain there, you can't go to fancy places, have fun etc, because service charges there are high. You just work, eat, sleep, work, eat, sleep, and hope to save enough to go oppress your village people. Just live quietly man, you are struggling.

DECLAN2015:
They so much this Lagos history
The thing make them special forgetting that the place is a trade route
The core yoruba hx is that of ice or oyo.
The first king is a yoruba prince oranmiyan no be so

To control a trade route, you must have power, military power is what you need, you don't have military power if your empire is not wealthy or great...the great and strong tax the weak. The fact that Benin soldiers taxes aworis showed they were on top. The aworis came in from Ile'Ife...this is a fact, not folklore or myth, recent 18th century history.

Bridget95:
My guy, 10,million naira is less than 10,000 dollars. Making that money in naija is not possible for an average man. Remember purchasing power is dwindling and no one knows what will become of the economy as things are going. In yanky opportunities yapa. Making cash In few years is very easy.

My point is will you live like a beggar abroad, won't you spend money...my point is minimum wage being paid in UK or America is not enough to live comfortably there, unless you live an austerity life, you will be in debt can't even save 1dollar. I respect Nigerians who do white collar and maybe blue collar jobs abroad, not minimum wage, minimum wage will only give you a poor man life abroad. Why do you think most people abroad are always on credit. Some people make your 1000 dollars, one million naira in Nigeria a day, without having to do shitty jobs. Stop thinking everyone is at your minimum wage level. Those at minimum wage level find it hard to get credit from financial institution because of low credit score.

Remember inflation keeps going up, so those figures you are calling might excite you, but not people that have seen money.

Headless mob and their assistant vice president

abobote:
Park well

Another economic saboteur, lazy people, wants to get rich trading currencies...do they trade currencies for a living in America or UK. Unpatriotic people.

It's headless, thoughtless head behavior.

Acidosis:
...laughing at your misinformed optimism. How can you beg satan for salvation?

Mad man they are people running this society, that's the class I belong, I won't go be a second class citizen, when I travel I know the class I mingle with, not minimum wage hustlers. It's about the life you live where you are, not to manage poverty austerity life come here to pose for your village people. Mumu

UnfairLife7:
black man with their cockroach brain. Was dollar 1k during Jonathan era? Was bag of rice sold 50k+ then?

It is not a prayer but a reality.

Like i said earlier, only Mad people roaming the streets that would still believe or think that a 63 yrs old nation go better one day

Shut up mumu, why all the people wey dey America never come buy all the properties here. You forget inflation, you forget that even though naira value is dropping if you hold N1million here now, it's next to nothing...that your minimum wage there will still keep you in the struggling bracket even in Nigeria...plus you spend dollars there, and we spend naira here. Olodo mumu.

UnfairLife7:
save this your epistle for those millions of unemployed graduates roaming the streets of Nigeria. Save this your sermon to an average Nigerians that cannot afford 3 descent meal daily. Save this your gospel for an average Nigerians with 30k minimum wage monthly. Save this your story for those that has abandoned their farmland, got killed and kidnapped. Save your campaign for Nigeria that top the ladder of unemployment and poverty

Maybe you should think of another strategies when dollar gets to 2k and a bag of rice 100k

Rubbish

So na that you dey bank on, lol. Funny myopic man, your prayers na make dollar kill our currency, your prayers no go work...think of a better plan.

The igbos are from nri tribe, an igboid group or race...who are all these Yoruba scholars trying to place ile'ife as the birth of all Nigerian tribes lol. Mere looking at the people's you will see that there were no such earlier interactions. Anyone can write an article, put any name and post online, to suit a narrative. Igbos didn't come from ile'ife . Yorubas, igbos, edos are all different, no such early interactions exist. Language, culture, mannerisms everything, different. No such influence of one on another is seen, not visible, Oni's claim is nothing but folklore and myths.

Where are the rabid headless mob Hamas now?

Acidosis:
LMAO.. Continue to scream online. The people you're begging to rescue you are the main custodian of round tripping


Just this year, Tinubu's son and Festus Keyamo bought properties in the U.S. worth millions of American dollar. Dey play.

Shut up, what's funny dummy

NothingDoMe:
Lol. Politicians have a greater need for USD especially during elections. That's the major reason this FX challenge persists. The ruling class are involved!

Sure, but if the CBN governor instructs banks and a law is passed, banks will adhere, they don't want sanctions and to pay fines.

FG must pass a law via senate and end all dollar payments within Nigeria, all payments should be in naira, FG should pass a circular via CBN governor and effect this immediately, and talk to senators to pass it into law, with penalties for erring banks, this trend must be reversed. Some people are doing currency round tripping as a serious business now, this is nonsense. CBN governor must work. President Tinubu we expect affirmative action.

I think thw government should start sanctioning people makimg payments within nigeria in dollars, these people are enabling the incrrasement of dollar currency against the naira. FG enact a monetary policy baning anyone from making payments in dollars in Nigeria, send a circular to all banks and pass into law, with serious fines for banks, this can easily be traced by CBN inspectors if bank default.

Those modafucking animals set the world back, all the peace process that took years, blood and tears to achieve was destroyed by some rabid headed indoctrinated monkeyse. They forget reality and religion are two different things. Those modafuckers are enabling the destruction of their territories and properties, setting their people back another 30 years, the whole 2 state settlement deal seem far reaching now than before, the whole world, even Iran denied them

We must resist headless mobs, they can throw a nation into war, see how a few angry miserable idiots cause world confusion, chaos and waste. Dumb modafuckers. Sensible, progressive Nigerians don't let the headless mobs, who are useless, broke and angry lead you to join them to destroy your country and home. Don't get played by a fool.

Those modafucking animals set the world back, all the peace process that took years, blood and tears to achieve was destroyed by some rabid headed indoctrinated monkeys. They forget reality and religion are two different things. Those modafuckers are enabling the destruction of their territories and properties, setting their people back another 30 years, the whole 2 state settlement deal seem far reaching now than before, the whole world, even Iran denied them

We must resist headless mobs, they can throw a nation into war, see how a few angry miserable idiots cause world confusion, chaos and waste. Dumb modafuckers. Sensible, progressive Nigerians don't let the headless mobs, who are useless, broke, angry and or indoctrinated lead you to join them to destroy your country and home. Don't get played by a fool.

KingCold:
what's this Nigerian obsession with settling in other countries?

Na poverty mentality. Algerians, Egyptians don't have that craze to relocate abroad like we do.

hardon1:
I don't know what any one will tell me o. All I know is that all the persons wey don jakpa to Europe or America wey I know are doing well and better than I am

My cousins in village who travelled, most of them have built house. Like They tell me; what they do there is not different from what that do here where you have a skill or certificate, it's exchange rate and better minimum wage system created by these foreign nation that helps them.

A friend of mine who sold his business centre and travelled to Ukraine last year September. He was job hunting for two months , got a job in December and suddenly the Ukraine Russian war broke and spoilt everything.

They were moved to Germany as refugees from Ukraine. While in camp in Germany, they were paid $400 (he sends stipends home from this amount)

The last time I chatted him. He is learning German language so he could take a short course on a skill

Exactly my point, a lot travelled from villages, rural areas, and will come here thinking everywhere is as miserable as where they left from. Life is relative, you suffer no mean say suffer dey everywhere.

Bridget95:
say after me... I will never be poor.

My guy its better to work for onyibo and get a good pay than to live in poverty without electricity and fuel in naija.

Lot of wealthy people here, they didn't need to go do shitty jobs, at an old age...no glory in that, If you have something good here, and live in a good location, you will enjoy your life. I get it, some just like to live abroad, that's fine and good, some people like staying in Nigeria too...but no pride in doing shitty jobs abroad, I respect Nigerians doing good respectable jobs abroad or business. Fuel dey naija guy, electricity dey, I understand, a lot of you travelled from villages and real severe areas, but the whole of Nigeria is not as pathetic as where you left from. Even in that abroad, six people share small condo, some live in ghettos or the streets. pray make you get money, you no like good thing reach Dangote, Otedola etc, live in Ikoyi and Victoria Island with good cash flow, na business and shopping you go dey go abroad for, na poverty make you think say abroad na heaven

Working your ass out like donkey for white man wey no send you, won't you like to have your business, be a boss in your lifetime, running up and down no dey tire you?

Christistruth00:
The Awori Yorubas Own Lagos even till Today

The matter is so settled that there is nothing to drag

To their Credit I have never heard or seen the Oba Of Benin or anyone from his Palace dispute the Yoruba ownership of Lagos

Please supply any evidence you have of the Oba Of Benin or his Palace claiming that Lagos is not Yoruba

Nobody is doubting about who owns it now, the aworis owned it because they stayed, Benin people left when the British expanded into Lagos, their influence of collecting taxes etc waned, the British invaded different parts of Lagos, Lagos island frontier, Epe frontier, and finally got the upper hand, and wrote a treaty with these Yoruba kings, and they signed, those treaties are still valid till today. The British promised them protection for access and influence.

I mentioned that period when taxes was being collected from aworis, to dispute and overrule your false claims...the fact that the Aworis 'Ile'ife princes' paid passage dues to the Benins whose main purpose there, was to create trade routes, get access to the sea, where they traded with the Portuguese from all front of Nigeria's waterways, and spread their influence. The Benin people had no plans to live there, they have their kingdom, so the Benin people's influence waned when the British started playing a prominent role (via their colonial thieves sent by the Queen), along the Lagos coastal corridor, when the British started wielding more influence the Benin influence waned.

If Benin and ile'Ife had that connection the Aworis won't pay that passage. This is why I brought that up here, I never said Benin owned Lagos, their aim was not to stay, the people that stayed owns the place. The Benin people had their kingdom, they didn't come to Lagos to stay but to make trading and expand. Till today Edo people like staying in their region...they love their region.

The note you posted is from untrusted sources, the names am seeing there are not Nigerians, that article is fiction, written and posted to suit a narrative...it makes no sense, send verifiable links.

Please read this interview.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/lagos-is-an-extension-of-benin-erelu-dosunmu/%3famp

NB: @Op am sure by now you know what is special about Benin.

Christistruth03:
The British researched and know the History very well too

There is no profit in lies

This is Erelu Dosunmu she is a titled Lagos Yoruba chief, she has no reason to lie or hype any side.you got a distorted version, and you embellished it for your ego, but this woman enjoys the benevolence of being Yoruba and a titled Yoruba chief. I will believe what she says, being a custodian of culture and the Yoruba heritage, I will believe her than to believe the British colonial thieves, who stole our priceless Ivory works and artefacts.
This is the link of the interview with Erelu Dosunmu- https://www.legit.ng/1140874-confusion-lagos-ownership-a-conspiracy-erelu-kuti-lagos-abiola-dosunmu.html

We are here to learn and widen our horizons, open your mind. Not doing this to show off, just to enlighten.

Think about it, how can Aworis from ile'ife paid passage dues, if Ille' ife were the parent kingdom as you claim.

You are speaking fallacy.

Christistruth03:
Both Jacob Egharevba and Bournadenko

Can you read this please, this woman knows the difference between Benin, Edo people, and Ile ife Yoruba...if ile'ife ruled over Benin like you said, she will know this, she will say she is from ile'ife ancestrally ( the parent kingdom), but she named Benin, Edo state. She stays in southwest, have a Yoruba title, so she has no reason to castigate Yoruba or yorubas, or hype Benin or Edo,. unless it's the truth.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/amp/

https://www.legit.ng/1140874-confusion-lagos-ownership-a-conspiracy-erelu-kuti-lagos-abiola-dosunmu.html

Christistruth00:
The Ogiso dynasty and the present Oba Dynasty were of Ile Ife Origin
But majority of the people in their Kingdom were Aboriginal to the Local Area

The People of Ile Ife had a peculiar Kingship system which was exported to many outside areas through their nobles and Princes they united and organized many of the Autonomous Aboriginal people they met on ground into kingdoms that are still existing today

Lies...where is the source for this, I like to see it, an independent source. Anybody can say and write anything...But Edo and Yoruba were never one or intermixed like you claim, no sign or proof of this. You might know the history up to an extent, then you started spiting what your folks told you. No need to argue about this though, believe what you want, but I know the yorubas have nothing to do with our kingship and dynasty. The tradition and language is very different...if there had such early interactions, the yorubas culture and language would influence ours not vice versa, British influenced Nigeria because they lorded over us at a point, we speak English and have English names, the Cameroun people have french names etc. Edo people have several indegenous language and non sounds like Yoruba language, no Yoruba understand any of our language, our names are very different, symbols are different, arts very different.

The Benin Prince going to Ile'ife story, becoming a ruler there and exporting the oba title to the yorubas, is more feasible, because some streets of Lagos, like Idumagbo is Edo name, Osa means forest in Edo language (etiosa), the Oba of Benin used to have a shrine in a street I stayed in Lagos, and thirdly Benin emissaries use to collect toll somewhere around Lagos island. When the Erelu dosunmu was interviewed she said she was Benin, based on her ancestry(she knows the difference between the two, not same like you claim)...If they were so knitted as you claim, then you would have seen a lot of Edo people in Ile ife and Yoruba towns, but that is not the case then or now. There is no influence on language, culture, names. So what you are saying is lies. If you lord over people the influence will show. Empirical evidence, not folklores and stories. You only wish, buts it's in your widest imagination, because the difference is like black and white, no sign of such close ties, culturally and traditionally, even in the rites, spirituality, sounds. Think man. Edo people are warriors, conquerors...till today you can't find Edo people mass migrating to other regions, South South feeds us adequately...a proud people, they will never allow an outsider dictate to them.
Read what Erelu dosumu said.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/amp/

https://www.legit.ng/1140874-confusion-lagos-ownership-a-conspiracy-erelu-kuti-lagos-abiola-dosunmu.html

Christistruth00:
No it was Ogiso Obagodo and his followers who founded Igodo and established the Ogiso dynasty there


The first Igodomigodo was in the Ado Ekiti Area
It was the 3rd Ogiso that moved Igodo to the pressnt Benin Area because of War

That is why till today the Yoruba call Benin people the Ado

Now you are capping, the progenitors of Edos and Yoruba people are totally different. We are close but we are different, the cultures and all are different. Ogiso is an Edo name, I don't know how you mix it together with Obagodo...Like I said, I wouldn't take folklores so seriously, over time history is distorted to fit narratives. But I agree we have an affinity.

Christistruth00:
Even Ogiso Obagodo who was the first Ogiso who established the Ogiso dynasty was an Ife man with a Yoruba Name

Obagodo means the Oba of Igodo

Eweka is a Corruption of the Yoruba world Owomika which means I have mastered it

Okay but you know there was an ogodomigodo dynasty before the ogiso right?

I respect yorubas my man, South South and southwest are the greatest regions in Nigeria, these two regions make Nigeria thick, both economically and resources wise. I know we have an affinity, but what I want to establish is, the Benin people had their own different progenitors, the Benin people made themselves, created their kingship and dynasty, the 'oba' title was borrowed from the Benin people and used in Yoruba kingship today...oba' a tokpe e' Is'e... Benin people established themselves and were conquerors, it's impossible that anyone ruled them, they were the ones conquering people and lands. Benin people were prominent in Lagos, even before the British came in here, trading with the Portuguese and collecting taxes from the aworis that met them here.

Obagodo do not sound like ogiso at all, Eweka does not sound like omowika at all, either in syntax or context/content. All you wrote are well crafted fables to suit a false narrative. Igodomigodo means sky gods, I remember on one of our folklores, the term 'ogiso a'ne', Ogiso is purely an Edo word...we have our own heritage, dynasty and empire built by the Benin people and spread out to southwest Lagos, down to Dahomey.

Benin and yorubas had different progenitors, the language are different, no common language, the rites, traditions are different, the music is different, the mannerisms are different, the folklores are different, even the myths, no similarities at all. If Yoruba ile'ife ever had that early connection with Benin empire like you claim, you will see several similarities and influences, but none. Yorubas do not understand any Edo language, Edo people don't understand Yoruba language, we don't share no common language. Yorubas and Benin are different as night and day.

God bless South South and south west, God bless Nigeria.

Christistruth00:
It is also in Jacob Egherevba's book "A short History of Benin"

Jacob Egherevba was a Benin high Chief

No Yoruba names or prince here. That information you have is false.

Christistruth00:
The first Ogiso was also from Ile Ife

https://pointblanknews.com/pbn/articles-opinions/ogiso-bini-ijaw-came-ile-ife/

That is what your folks told you, we have our own history too, I can even show you from independent sources, but that's not important, no need to chase clout, but it's a fallacy. If you look at the strength of the Benin empire, going far all the way to southwest, having influence to Dahomey, you will know what you are saying are fallacies. The same way we were told a Benin prince ruled Ile ife is the same way you were told a Yoruba prince ruled Benin. But it's a lie, Benin people are a warrior tribe, very proud, they can never allow an outsider rule them. It's folklore.

This your link is folklore man, the writer was not explicit about anything, just talking about beliefs, myths, and heresays, stop spreading unverified information. Show me interviews, verifiable links and news media.

I saw a British guy that was complaining that Nigeria clubs are too expensive

Op some people stay in village in Nigeria, and some stay in Lagos, not everyone is miserable in Nigeria.