₦airaland Forum

Ihedinobi3:
Claims are always easy to make. It's always the proving that is hard. Isn't that why you cannot actually address arguments I make, dalaman?

spongeisback:
Oga are you a Christian or a Jew? What in the name of Neptune are you rambling about Elisha, Abraham, Joseph and Daniel? You don't even understand the religion you're trying to defend.

The Holy Spirit was sent to the disciples after Jesus ascended. So why're you talking about those that lived before then?

No wonder you all are so confused. Mixing and matching any part of the bible to suit your immediate need.

stt201:
Do you see anyone like your comment? That simply tells that you're talking out of sense. Next time try to add respect to whom respect is due, Mr Goat

Boss13:
These marriage counselors think marriage is what they see on Hollywood movies or soap opera. They imagine these fantasies would come to past and that’s the one major reason marriages fail.

Marriage is about having less expectations and fulfilling your responsibilities. There is never a happy marriage - that’s BS. It’s hardwork and patience.

hahn:
God is a mysterious cunt

shukuokukobambi:
A Muslim from Gwantu? Can you show anything to prove this?

WaffenSS:
What about Plateau, Mr Hypocrite

There's a large number of Muslims in the state. Yet they don't practice what you preach. Is that fair?

You can't pick and choose where christians get to be deputies.

Giving southern Kaduna the DG is a social service, not a birthright. Muslims are the majority, and since Plateau claims christian majority to deny a Muslim DG, same thing should apply in KD.

If the southern Kaduna ingrates think it's their right, they should elect the governor from their evil stock. If they can

shukuokukobambi:
If you wish to wail, wail with sense. Dr hadiza is from Gwantu community, a 100% Christian community in Sanga local government area, which is also fully Christian. Make una try dey reason, research and think before making noise in public

WetinConsignMe:
I have concluded marriage is somehow. The only way to stay married is to grit your teeth and bear it. Even if u find a "perfect" person, a more "perfect" person will eventually come around (especually if u r successful). What do u do then?

demmie04:
See what go and read your book has done to us in nigeria and how many times did this guy read his books to get all this, I will personally sponsors my children sport career, may God bless them through it

LordReed:
They will say we don't have the eyes of the spirit. LoL self deception is what they call eyes of the spirit.

LordReed:
More like more and more elaborate tales to explain the plot holes. God can't see evil but somehow Satan can freely go to heaven, you'll get a very fine tale of how God gave Satan everlasting bus pass to enter heaven that was never revoked. LMFAO!

Ihedinobi3:
This is why I said that I couldn't help you. I gave you two sets of Scriptural passages and left you to work it out yourself and you complained that I threw Scriptures at you that said nothing like my claims. Now I have actually explained one set and you dismiss my explanation as my opinion of the verses and complain that they don't say more.

It really is a waste of time with you and people like you.

The Bible says enough for anyone who wants to know to discover the Truth. But you reject whatever the Bible says is true, don't you? Therefore, the Bible will never satisfy you.

LOL. In other words, whether I make things up or I don't, you'll never accept the Bible's testimony. So, why would I bother to make things up? Perhaps for me to feel better believing the Bible? LOL. If I am "smart" enough to make up stories like this because I'm afraid that the Bible doesn't add up, I would not be so "dumb" as to keep believing the Bible anyway, would I?

Ihedinobi3:
I'm the one you are talking about?! Wow! You really have no shame. How on earth am I supposed to understand your reading for you as well? Shall I read for you and understand as well?

The first passage from Genesis told you that before man was created, the whole universe was under water ("darkness was upon the face of the deep". The deep is a fairly easy word to understand in the Bible since in the early chapters of Genesis we encounter it and it is always associated with great quantities of water. Why would it be mentioned here in connection with an earth described as a waste and a ruin if not to say that it was the reason for the destruction?

The second from 2 Peter said that the earth was reclaimed from water during the creative period. Why would it say that unless there was prior destruction from which the earth was reclaimed? After all, Gen 1:1 teaches that God created the Universe out of nothing. And clearly, this could not refer to the Noahic Flood since the earth was not said to be formed then.

The third from Isaiah said that God did not create the earth as an uninhabitable place, rather He "formed" it, that is, remade it for habitation.

How do you not see that these things mean that the universe was covered with water at some point?

In addition, given that what follows Gen 1:2 is a description of the re-creation of not only the Earth but the heavens as well, there is that much more evidence that the entire universe was destroyed with water.

It's not surprising to me that you claim that the information isn't there. Even if you really could see it, I would expect you to deny it. It doesn't help your position and preferred cosmology to admit that such a thing may truly be in the Bible because then you may have to deal with the fact that you may not know the Bible as well as you have pretended to yourself and may have been wrong in rejecting it.

Look, the best way to avoid this truth is to reject everything the Bible says regardless whether it is coherent with itself or not. But you have no chance of escaping this as a truth as long as you want to deal with the Bible.

Dantedasz:
All smoke and mirrors.
The more you look the less you see,in this case,the more answers you read,the less you understand.
Preachers use these tricks a lot,just like performers in a circus. They know their congregation don't read or know the Bible so they cherry pick passages from their book and go on long winding explanations that can not stand up to any logic. If you question the Bible they then use the ultimate control mechanism of reward and punishment-heaven and hell.

asuustrike1:
It is fables, mythology and fiction to you because you lack understanding. Get wisdom and in getting it get understanding

asuustrike1:
The word of God can not lie ( Matt 24:35). Yes he indeed destroyed the earth with water ( Gen 9:11) and would destroy it with fire this time around (2 Peter 3:10)

ihedinobi2:
Do you see that it was destroyed by water at all?

It was destroyed by water. That was the first thing you were to see.

These verses teach that Satan rebelled:

Ezekiel 28:12-19
[12]"Son of man, take up a lamentation over the king of Tyre and say to him, 'Thus says the Lord God, "You had the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
[13]"You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The ruby, the topaz and the diamond; The beryl, the onyx and the jasper; The lapis lazuli, the turquoise and the emerald; And the gold, the workmanship of your settings and sockets, Was in you. On the day that you were created They were prepared.
[14]"You were the anointed cherub who covers, And I placed you there. You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked in the midst of the stones of fire.
[15]"You were blameless in your ways From the day you were created Until unrighteousness was found in you.
[16]"By the abundance of your trade You were internally filled with violence, And you sinned; Therefore I have cast you as profane From the mountain of God. And I have destroyed you, O covering cherub, From the midst of the stones of fire.
[17]"Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; You corrupted your wisdom by reason of your splendor. I cast you to the ground; I put you before kings, That they may see you.
[18]"By the multitude of your iniquities, In the unrighteousness of your trade You profaned your sanctuaries. Therefore I have brought fire from the midst of you; It has consumed you, And I have turned you to ashes on the earth In the eyes of all who see you.
[19]"All who know you among the peoples Are appalled at you; You have become terrified And you will cease to be forever."'"

Isaiah 14:12-14
[12]"How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!
[13]"But you said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, And I will sit on the mount of assembly In the recesses of the north.
[14]'I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.'


The two sets of Scriptures put together say this:

God does not create ruin and waste. He creates perfection. But the universe before man was made was a ruin covered by frozen, dark waters. And Satan is known to have rebelled.

It only makes sense then to understand that God responded to his rebellion with a watery devastation on the material universe that existed at that time and then re-made it in order to create Man.

Do you have any other way of explaining those Bible passages together?

Ihedinobi3:
Genesis 1:2
[2]The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.

2 Peter 3:5
[5]For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water

Isaiah 45:18
[18]For thus says the Lord, who created the heavens (He is the God who formed the earth and made it, He established it and did not create it a waste place, but formed it to be inhabited), "I am the Lord, and there is none else.

Ihedinobi3:
Why don't you ask me yourself?

Treepower2000:
E be like say you have your own separate Bible ooo.

Treepower2000:
E be like say you have your own separate Bible ooo.