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Politics › Re: Over 11,000 Benefiiciaries Of Npower In Ekiti Declare Support For Buhari by dalaman: 12:27pm On Jul 31, 2018

Oblang:
Are u saying ppl don't work and at the same time combine their regular businesses? Depends on individuals...

N Power is totally useless . It's only 30k. It can not feed a person if the person is to rely on it. My 19 years old semi illetrate security man's daughter in Nigeria earns more than a graduate that relies on N power.

Until Buhari's son or Osinbanjo's daughter enrolls for N power you can not tell me anything about it. 30k is less than 100 dollars meaning that even those that earn it are still living in abject poverty. Social empowerment schemes are supposed to lift people OUT OF POVERTY not to leave them still wallowing in abject poverty. N power is still poverty perpetuation because it does not lift people out of poverty. Those that earn it and depend on it alone still live in abject poverty.

Politics › Re: Over 11,000 Benefiiciaries Of Npower In Ekiti Declare Support For Buhari by dalaman: 12:11pm On Jul 31, 2018

Oblang:
The good thing now is that those mai shayi and those traders if they are graduates, can apply successfully for npower without any connection and start receiving 30k monthly to add up to their business or even float another business from it...

N power isn't free. You'll have to work and earn the 30k. Selling shayi is better than N power.

Politics › Re: Benue: Buhari Will Never Be Part Of Any Unconstitutional Act – Presidency by dalaman: 8:48am On Jul 31, 2018

PMB himself is the epitome of lawlessness. His lawlessness was recently reported in Bloomberg newspaper.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Africans Have Lost It Totally. by dalaman(op): 8:37am On Jul 31, 2018

Interesting thing I discovered about the Bible.

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Politics › Re: Over 11,000 Benefiiciaries Of Npower In Ekiti Declare Support For Buhari by dalaman: 11:05pm On Jul 30, 2018

Butterflyle0 has now joined the BMC propaganda machine. grin

Anywhere lies is present you'll see him there gleefully spreading it. While millions have lost their high paying jobs because of the useless and clueless policies of this failed APC government,they think giving 500K Nigerian graduates 30k (less than 100 dollars ) a month for 2 years will replace all the jobs people lost.

Ordinary mai shayi (indomie and tea seller) makes more than 30k a month. In fact most petty traders you see around (barbers,Keke drivers, taxi drivers, butchers, recharge card sellers etc) make more than 30k monthly in Nigeria. That is a statement of fact. My security man's daughter back in Nigeria sells moi moi and she told me she makes 1200 naira profit daily when I asked her how much she makes as profit. This is a 19 years old girl that dropped out of secondary school in Jss 3.

She makes more money monthly as a moi moi seller at age 19 than the lazy university graduates Buhari is deceiving with 30k monthly. If you spend 1k daily to feed then the 30k will finish on food alone.

What kind of useless empowerment is this? Empowerment that can not even feed you properly.

When the time came for good government jobs, only the children of the rich were given jobs through the back door. Nigeria immigration service recently concluded their recruitment and only those close to political office holders were offered the job.

Just recently the Abuja light rail was launched and may complained that only the children and relatives of the rich and mighty were offered jobs to fill up the various positions that were up. Nobody even heard about the employment for the positions mostly in the terminal monitoring and controlling unit.

Keep clapping for nothing and celebrating mediocrity and empoverishing of the average Nigerian.

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Politics › Re: Police Arrest Kwankwaso Supporters In Kano For Burning Brooms(photos) by dalaman: 6:33pm On Jul 30, 2018

Buhari and Ganduje are both mad!

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Politics › Re: EFCC Detectives To Quiz Ekweremadu Over Assets by dalaman: 6:28pm On Jul 30, 2018

Sarkin:
for fighting corruption; doing their job?
This is pain for evil doers and sorry Nigeria is changing and fast. This is no longer pdp's satanic and rugged era.

Shut up!

Politics › Re: Presidency Moves To Forcibly Reconvene Senate, Impeach Saraki by dalaman: 5:04pm On Jul 30, 2018

drlateef:
Google it, it's there on NL headlines. A Canadian group report it is.

So a nameless Canadian group is your evidence abi? Clap for you self.

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Politics › Re: Presidency Moves To Forcibly Reconvene Senate, Impeach Saraki by dalaman: 4:52pm On Jul 30, 2018

drlateef:
Boko Haram did worse under Jonathan. Latest reports indicate that PDP politicians are behind all the atrocities going on now.

Where's the evidence for this shameless APC propaganda?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Crap! by dalaman: 4:46pm On Jul 30, 2018

Dantedasz:
You can now find butterfly Leo in the politics section,standing logic on its head while defending Buhari and APC dogmatically.

Seriously, that guy is totally insane. He's there in the politics section displaying the same madness he displays here. I had to call out his madness there not long ago.

Politics › Re: Presidency Moves To Forcibly Reconvene Senate, Impeach Saraki by dalaman: 4:35pm On Jul 30, 2018*

Butterflyle0:
And what is the road map? Show me.

Is it the same Atiku who, between 1999—2003, while Obasanjo globe-trotted and gallivanted, Atiku was the de-facto President and made himself stupendously rich?

Is it the same Atiku who ensured His children became directors of oil-servicing companies and forgot about people like you?

Is it the same Atiku who was the custodian of the machinery for national development in the first years of this government and did absolutely nothing with it except enriching himself?

Is it the same Atiku who handled all the Federal Government dealings in the 36 states of the federation, including FCT Abuja, and chaired all the economic projects of the country, and appointed 7 out of 10 ministers yet failed woefully?

Is it the same Atiku who was the chairman for the transformation of the socio-economic landscape of Nigeria and failed to link the 36 states of the federation in terms of good roads, electricity, security of life and property, job creation etc?

Is it the same Atiku who stabbed Obasanjo in the back that made Obasanjo unable to forgive him till date despite Atiku sneaking into Abeokuta to beg Obasanjo and still got rejected?

Is it the same Atiku who his AC compatriots abandoned after he destroyed AC and forced tinubu to rebrand it to ACN?

Is it the same Atiku who crept back to the PDP after yaradua died only to walk out on PDP in 2013 and switch to APC which he described with his own mouth as his last and final bus stop yet when APC failed to satisfy his presidential lust he quickly jumped back to PDP?

Your Atiku is as fraudulent and deceptive as can be. His words or promises are not worth the cost of a tissue paper.

His personal satisfaction and greed is all he is after.

I follow politics and I know. I am sure the info I just gave you is new to you.

Even in the political section you still argue aimlessly. The economic growth, institutional establishment, recorded under the OBJ/ Atiku can never be compared to the nonsense that is obtained under this APC failed administration of aimless propaganda .

A total of 7.956 million Nigerians became unemployed between January 2016 and September 30, 2017, according to data from the National Bureau of Statistics.

This is the first government since 1999 that has never reported job gains, only job losses in millions.

Under this government and it's FAILED policies aimed at emproverishing Nigerians, Nigeria was few weeks ago declared as the poverty capital of the world(country with the highest number of of its people living in abject poverty ). Something that never was under the OBJ/ Atiku administration.

Security wise this government has FAILED totally.

This government has nothing to offer Nigerians. An Atiku presidency can NEVER BE as bad as it is now. Nigeria is at its worst moment ever as a country especially on the economic and security front.

What has Buhari done to help ordinary Nigerians like you? List 5 things he has done to empower or better your life as an ordinary citizen. When time for employment came he made sure only the children of the rich and powerful got Jobs into all the juicy government establishments through the back door, while ordinary citizens like you were left in the cold to fend for themselves.

Keep clapping for nothing because that is the only thing you seem to be good at.

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Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why Occultism/Atheism May Be More Popular Than Christianity In Few Years by dalaman: 2:51pm On Jul 30, 2018

chrisnwoke1:
AMEN SOULS ARE WASTING IN HELL FIRE!
Beware!

You are part of the souls wasting in hell fire.

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Christianity Etc › Re: This Is Why Occultism/Atheism May Be More Popular Than Christianity In Few Years by dalaman: 2:44pm On Jul 30, 2018

chrisnwoke1:
THIS IS WHY OCCULTISM AND ATHEISM MAY BE MORE POPULAR THAN CHRISTIANITY IN FEW YEARS TO COME

I saw this post on nairaland where a popular atheist said that the Holy Spirit fornicated with the Blessed virgin Mary and other severe blasphemies against the Holy Spirit.

This atheist is an Antichrist agent and has converted many persons to his satanic religion through social media and believers are keeping quiet.

I joined many social media handles and to God be the glory, our epistles are changing lives all around, thus, people message us on a daily basis to confess their sins and repent by accepting Jesus Christ in holiness of life.

Now my problem is with some believers who feel we are showing up or doing things to gather attention.
Chai!

Someone actually messaged me privately and gave me warm tidings but then he said my public posting about Prayer is childish.
It is well oh!

But the truth is, I do not remember sharing my prayer times online but what I shared was a personal photo on the mount and my experience with a false Bible teacher therein.

The other thing I shared was a call to a six (6) hour daily prayer on Saturdays in Abuja which is a public call to prayer just as a preacher can call souls to his public crusade meeting.

It wasn't just my personal prayer program but a means where I want to gather intercessors throughout Abuja and Nigeria to stand in the gap for Nigeria and families.
It wasn't a show up sir, thanks again for the advice!

It's things like this that make me retreat from sharing some mighty testimonies of what God is going through us in delivering captives.

Go to nairaland, a man called babalawo in the religious section is publicly teaching ignorant souls how to practice black magic.

Life lessons of rituals are taught by him there, and some people are not talking.

But when a believer posts items that will revive souls they feel it is a show up.
Kai!

But please oh, don't visit social sites with an ungarded heart to read items there because even in their religious section if you are not strong because Satan himself is doing evangelism there.
Many believers have been captured into Atheism, pornography and masturbation there.
God is my witness!

A correction may be for a good intent but if not Holy Spirit inspired, it can kill the fire in the messenger.

MANY BELIEVERS ARE FAILING TO SEPARATE HOLINESS FROM LUKEWARMNESS.

Because of my spiritual upbringing in the holiness legalistic movements I was too timid to do some things that will glorify Jesus because I thought it is public show...

But things have changed oh!
Sincerely, God has visited us with help from the Zion that is Above and our Pen will write whilst our Microphone speaks unsparingly.
Help us Jesus!

If your light ought to be shinning and yet you are allowing atheists to be more relevant than you on social media then there is problem for your generation.

You are either doing God's work or sponsoring the work by supporting field labourers.
Ask Shia Muslims, Jihad is the sixth pillar of Islam, you either fight it or you sponsor it, else no paradise for you.
Selah!

Some Pastors in different countries messaged us to confess that our letters against sexual sin has caused them to repent from it.

To God Be the Glory!

If atheists are serving Satan more than you are serving God, then I don't know what will become of your end.

Now think about this!

Apostle Christian Nwoke
https:///send?phone=2347032469360

https://i.somethingawful.com/u/garbageday/2013/everdraed/post.gif

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Christianity Etc › Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by dalaman: 10:09am On Jul 30, 2018

eMmyGREAT1:
Hmmm. Just a question can imaginations be felt.

Imaginations trigger feelings.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by dalaman: 8:48am On Jul 30, 2018

eMmyGREAT1:
So now whats your headache about my GOD. Its my feelings not yours

You'be said it your self. You feel your God in your head. It exist only in your imaginations they way the Buddhist also feel the existence of his God Buddha inside his head.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Crap! by dalaman: 10:56pm On Jul 29, 2018

Martinez19:
So you believe god can and has cured HIV?

GOD, PLEASE COOK MY DINNER

Some people believe God can work miracles, like cure advanced cancer or save people in terrible plane crashes. The Bible tells us that God can do anything, he can even move a mountain into the sea. These are extraordinary things.

I would just like God to do something simple. When I get home from work late and dead tired, I would like to put my food on the kitchen table and have God cook it for me.

Or, if that is selfish of me, I would like him to notice when an elderly woman, alone in her cold house, is dying from hypothermia and make the house warm for her. Or, if she has become too weak to get out of her chair, to make her a cup of tea and boil her an egg.

Oddly, there is no known case of God doing any of these very simple things--things that almost any human could, and would, do for someone in need.

God only does things that could happen without God--a proportion of people with cancer do go into remission, and sometimes there are survivors of plane crashes. But dinners do not cook themselves and cold houses do not make themselves warm.

Think about this for a moment. It means the world behaves EXACTLY as it would if there was no God at all.

If only God would just boil an egg once in a while. But he won't.

- Bill FL

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Christianity Etc › Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by dalaman: 10:37pm On Jul 29, 2018

eMmyGREAT1:
Yes AIR also are imaginary but because its been felt that's why we believe it do exist. Christains might not be able to see their GOD but they feel him . You testify of what you've seen and felt. So i think they've felt him that why they believe he exists. I rest my case

Everybody feels his/ her own God, Goddesses and Gods. You aren't the only ones that can feel your God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by dalaman: 9:33pm On Jul 29, 2018

eMmyGREAT1:
Please do air exist? Just askin tho

What has air got to do with God? Air exist but Gods are imaginary.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Crap! by dalaman: 7:57pm On Jul 29, 2018

PraiseDLord:
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God!!!!
1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV
http://bible.com/1/1co.1.18.KJV

Every mythology makes sense to those that subscribe to it. Ask the Muslims. They have many of such passages from the Koran.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Crap! by dalaman: 6:42pm On Jul 29, 2018

danvon:
All the insults I'm seeing could easily be directed at any religion yet only Christianity was selected

Once again, atheists display their highness

All atheist here on this thread were former christians. There are many former Muslim atheist on Facebook and on the Internet that talk only about Islam. Atheists generally talk about their former religions because that is the only religion they know very well.

By the way where is the insult?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Crap! by dalaman: 6:21pm On Jul 29, 2018

The fact that all people are born with an empty mind, before learning everything shows that Christianity is man made and false.

Christianity is not natural. No religion is natural. If a person is born in a place completely isolated from other cultures, would he develop a belief in Christianity, for example? The answer is no.

Being a Christian or any other religion type belief requires a person to be inserted inside that kind of culture by some way and made to believe and accept it systematically.

This alone proveso that Christianity is made up by men. A God that requires you to read a book or have someone read it for you, so you can learn about Jesus to be saved is just completely crazy.

A real God that exist the way christians advertise their
God would find better ways to communicate with men in a clear way and be impossible to doubt, because even among sincere christians there is endless disagreement and squabbles over basic doctrines and theology which to be expected in any man made venture and endeavour.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Crap! by dalaman: 6:10pm On Jul 29, 2018

8 reasons why Christianity is crap.

"1. There is clear evidence that prayer does not work despite the Bible promising prayers will be answered.

2. There is clear evidence that humans invent gods. Humans have invented so many gods that the default assumption should be that a god is a supernatural entity invented by humans. Christianity would need solid evidence that the Jewish god is an exception to this rule but there is no such evidence.

3.There is clear evidence that religions and gods are propagated through culture by infecting children, and no evidence that they are propagated by gods.

4. There is clear evidence that Christianity has evolved as human understanding of the world has changed whilst a real, God-given religion, should never need to change.

5. There is clear evidence that humans on this planet have unequal access to Christianity so, if Christianity were true, billions would be condemned to hell for no fault of their own. This contradicts the Christian notion that God is omnibenevolent.

6.There is clear evidence that the Bible, supposedly inspired by God, is liberally sprinkled with the type of errors we would expect from its Iron Age authors but would not expect from the creator of the universe.

7.Christian theology is incoherent to the point of absurdity. God killing his son so he can forgive our future sin is like me breaking my son’s legs so I can forgive my neighbor in case she ever parks her car on my drive. It is quite ridiculous.

8.There is clear evidence that the arguments presented for the existence of the Jewish God are logically flawed—all of them have been shown to be unreliable. If this were not the case, all honest and intelligent people would accept that God exists, just as all honest and intelligent people accept that black holes exist."

- Bill FL

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Crap! by dalaman: 6:03pm On Jul 29, 2018

"You cannot read the Bible and invent a drug, a car, a weather forecasting device, a disaster prevention machine or any other technology. The Bible does not contain any formula, theory, solution or research through which you can come about inventing anything to benefit humanity.
All the Bible knows is "let there be fish and there was fish" as if that explains anything about fishes and other aquatic life forms.
That book is totally useless to humanity".
- Purity Layemo

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Christianity Etc › Re: Africans Need To Stop Asking God To Solve Their Problems! by dalaman: 5:54pm On Jul 29, 2018

We need to just keep this God hypothesis aside and do what we need to do to help ourselves. No God has ever helped any society to develop. Everything that man needs to do must be done by man himself.

"You cannot read the Bible and invent a drug, a car, a weatger forecasting device, a disaster prevention machine or any other technology. The Bible does not contain any formula, theor, solution or research through which you can come about inventing anything to benefit humanity.
All the Bible knows is "let there be fish and there was fish" as if that explains anything about fishes and other aquatic life forms.
That book is totally useless to humanity".
- Purity Layemo

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Christianity Etc › Re: Rev Funke Adejumo: It Is Wrong For A Female To Preach In Church by dalaman: 12:58pm On Jul 29, 2018

paxonel:
a lot of Christians when they are asked, why are they so dogmatic enough to express their false view or doctrines without looking at the other side of facts, they will say God is the same, yesterday, today and forever, nothing can change him.

Doctrines are not God
If God is not changing doctrines can be changed to suit the present realities of life so long that such realities are desirable.

Gender equality is something desirable and should not be creepled by wrong doctrines or beliefs.

As a matter of fact, Christians should be at the forefront pursuing justice and equity going by the legacies of Jesus Christ.

Gender equality and marriage equality (same sex marriages) are both desirable by many . Many people believe gays have as much right to get married as straight people.

Do you support justice and equity for same sex marriage?

Christianity Etc › Re: Rev Funke Adejumo: It Is Wrong For A Female To Preach In Church by dalaman: 10:57am On Jul 29, 2018*

paxonel:
specifically, people of Paul of the apostles time who were Christians were never mandated to offer sacrifices of ram for the atonement of their sins.

Yet Ram was sacrificed in the bible yes or no?

Do you see now that certain things are changing as times are changing?
That God is not the same, yesterday, today and forever as we Christians are putting him to be?

God himself according to the bible said he is the same yesterday today and forever. He made the statement himself according to the bible. So what exactly are you saying? Or do you disagree with the statement from the biblical God?

Christianity Etc › Re: Rev Funke Adejumo: It Is Wrong For A Female To Preach In Church by dalaman: 8:15am On Jul 29, 2018

alBHAGDADI:
I don't understand this last part of yours. Do you expect the Bible to be writing on technology when it is focused on saving lives from damnation?

Saving which lives? The writers of the bible had NO idea at all that the world will ever become as advanced as it is today so when they wrote down their nonsense they wrote it without such knowledge. When they mentioned technology only primitive technology was what they mentioned.

If the Bible had written about modern warfare, do you people of old would have understood? The Bible makes correct predictions which are happening now.

I thought you guys brag that the Bible is a book of all time? Which correct prediction has the bible madeabout today's world? A book that couldn't know that people will be using rocket and jet engine is what you are lying that made prediction about today's world abi? Jesus we are told will be flying down on horse back and the angels along with him will be using swords to conquer the world. Didn't yahweh know that people will be using high caliber assult rifles and long range missiles amongst other modern weapons?

Mind you, the world is not meant to advance just as you think it should. Men are not suppose to sleep with men, neither are we suppose to have transgender. The Bible is designed to keep us from suffering the consequence of trying out stupid advancement. Homosexuality has brought in AIDS which was known as GRID Gay Related Immune Deficiency. Yet folks like you will say the Bible should not influence our world today, when it is the only thing stopping us from falling over the cliff.

Well, that's not the topic. If you don't find this Christian sermon to your liking, kindly exit the thread and let Christians discuss.

In your myth believing and deluded mind the world is not supposed to advance. Keep deluding yourself. Humans will be so advanced that the people that will live 300 years from now will look at us as primitive beings because of their level of advancement. Homosexuals have been existing in the world among all species long before Jesus was born and long before the bible as a whole was written down so what nonsense are you talking about? Homosexuality is natural just like being male or female, it has been with mankind since inception. The bible is not stopping anybody from falling off the cliff it is so useless so much so that Christianshould are refusing to abide by its ancient and primitive injunctions. Isn't what why you created this topic? Because you want people to stick to first century sexist thrash that was written inside the bible while many other Christians do not want to do so? Keep deluding yourself.

Christianity Etc › Re: Rev Funke Adejumo: It Is Wrong For A Female To Preach In Church by dalaman: 7:47am On Jul 29, 2018

paxonel:
take not of the emboldened
"I"
WHO?
who are you that is speaking?
God?

Let me state this clearly, at the time of ignorance God ignored certain things humans do on earth.

In the days of Paul the apostle many women were never educated including men too.

But because even an average illiterate man by nature can think faster and have certain understanding than the average woman, women were always at the mercy of asking men who also lark understanding questions about the general life. And the closest men they could get to ask questions is their husbands at home.
That was how it was in those days.

Even in Africa, not too long generation ago it was like that because there was no universities or colleges.

So understand that when Paul was talking it was talking based on how life used to be in their generation and it was his own personal suggest based on his experience with women of that generation that they usually lack understanding and possibly disgrace themselves and the church if they were allowed to speak.

therefore Paul saying that suffer not the women to preach was his own personal suggestion back then and should not be applied to women of this modern day who are far educated and vast in understanding.

Do you get that?

what law?
Jewish law or the 10 commandment?

By the way why should they remain silent, what wrong have they done for being women?
disgraceful
How?
Please explain?

When has it become disgraceful for just mere speaking to the public?

Christians need to wake up, certain things you read in bible should not be allowed to influence people to do what is not right this modern day.

Christ has given us the power to decide.

You guys are very funny. Most of you do NOT believe in the entire bible , you only pick and chose the parts you like, turn a blind eye to the parts you don't like or give them your own alternate interpretation.

Which part of the bible was not written for the people living at that time? Which injunction was not written based on the life style of the people living at that time?

Anyway the OP has chosen to follow a failed path because most Christians today especially in the west will not accept the stupid sexism espoused by the bible. They will rather abandon the religion entirely than accept this nonsensical sexism.

The bottom line is that the writers of the bible did NOT know that the world will evolve to what it is now, everything they wrote they wrote using their own knowledge and level of advancement . They even had God writing people's name and reading it out on scrolls of papyrus, Angels using trumpets and swords and Jesus coming down riding on horse back. They never knew people will be using jet engines and rocket engines to go into space and for inter planetary travels, books and computers for writing and storage of data, microphoes, high caliber assult rifles etc. They were busy writing about their God using primitive and ancient thrash to judge the world and attack mankind.

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Politics › Re: President Buhari Leaves For Lome, Togo On Sunday by dalaman: 5:25pm On Jul 28, 2018

Junketter, junketting out of the jungle called Nigeria.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by dalaman: 11:49am On Jul 28, 2018

rekinomtla:
It was never my intention to show morality was objective, I never even said it was in any of my posts here. I merely stated what some atheists believe about morality. So far all atheists here have agreed with me about what they believe about morals. They just seem to be bother about someone stating their position for some reason.

I've shown you that morality is not objective, cos even with God slavery, genocide, incest etc were all allowed.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by dalaman: 11:27am On Jul 28, 2018

rekinomtla:
Why is it that every I mention what atheists believe about morality they get so defensive? Usually replying by confirming what I said about their beliefs about morality but at the same time trying to convince me that morality is all subjective?

You've not show how morality is objective at all. You've only said it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Nothing Will Serve As Evidence For Gods Existence To An Atheist by dalaman: 9:05am On Jul 28, 2018

rekinomtla:
Those are the christians that become atheists. They eventually come to believe they just apes who invented morality. Thats why most atheists believe morality is subjective and is an invention of humanity. That the belief that murder, stealing etc is wrong is just an invention of soceity, in their reality there's nothing objectively wrong with murder, rape, pedophilia etc.

Your God ordered people to not only murder others but to carry out genocide according to the bible, he also ordered his chosen men to rape people in the bible, the Koran saw nothing wrong with Mohammed marrying a 9 years old child. So with God all these vices you listed were permissible.

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