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My wife knows am an atheist. She's the only person that knows and she doesn't care. She said God will forgive me cos of her. She'll beg him to take me to heaven she truly means it. No need wasting your time telling people you are an atheist in Nigeria. You can lose a lot.

4everGod:
E pain am! What has our little chat Got to do with this crap you just posted here? Are you angry you no longer can think rationally?

Rejoice with me and stop being bitter.

What exactly is paining me? Your imaginations? Rejoice with you over what exactly?

4everGod:
We do not know how to lie. The bottom of the last text is the Open door promised for me so i will not expose that.

What is promused you? The richest man in Nigeria is a whole is a muslim so what the hell are you saying? Political favour? A muslim is presently the president of Nigeria. Stop talking thrash.

4everGod:
Just remember to invite me to your new company opening

We can exchange complimentary cards then.

Imaginary complimentary card just like the imaginary person you raised from the dead , right? I say run along you are empty.

4everGod:
Are you not aware of The contract allocations? Yet you are in Abuja? You obviously move in small circles.

I am proud to be me and speak all i do to the glory of God almighty.

Its not easy and indeed hasnt been but it has been fruitful. Besides here is another angle i also need to update you on..

The recently concluded Ondo state elections which went to APC, my very person a female Honorable is about to be made either a federal or a state commissior and that would mean more open doors for me.

No be me do am. Na God

The empty vessels make the loudest noise. Allow others sing you praises, never do it your self. You are empty just as your claim of raising a dead person with no name an identity back to life. Take your empty noise and run along.

4everGod:
Oga you had your chance. I do not go back to my past. I always move forward.

We applied for a contract for part of the federal government mass housing projects scattered nationwide and we put in a bid for Jos and Kogi and we got Jos so when i get to Abuja after mobilization i may just holla you

Yeah applied for a government contact bla bla bla. Just like the same way you raised a nameless person without an identity from the dead and healed another one with HIV over the phone. In the world of fiction everything is possible.

4everGod:
You mentioned setting up a new company next year and i asked you to invite me and here you are shifting goal posts to talk about a healing. Is it that there is no company to open afterall?

I gave you your chance and you blew it so like jesus did not follow the dictates of the devil i cannot follow yours simply because you want me to. Light and darkness share no similarities,

Now back to the main issue. Are you inviting me for the company opening or not?

I will not invite you. You on the other hand challenged me for a miracle challenge. Why are you running away from it?

4everGod:
You dey fear? I run a valid real estate and construction firm and would gladly take you on a tour of my sites as its not fictitious. Invite me na!

Fear what? Just accept my challenge and I'll come tommorrow. I'll come with my amputee and 1 million naira together with my atheist friends here on nairaland. If you heal the amputee in the name of Jesus. All the activities of atheist here on Nairaland which you guys are always bitterly complaining about will end. Me personally will become an evangelical christian for life.I'll drop the one millon naira. You can donate it to any church or charity of your choice. If you fail to heal him you give me 500k naira and I go back to Abuja.I won't even waste my time posting the video or pictures here after it fails. Other atheist might do it, but I won't. Man up, accept the challenge and let's do it.

4everGod:
I really hope you do.

Sure so long as the people remain nameless with no identity and location. Even I can raise such people from the dead.

4everGod:
oh dalaman by the way. when you open this your fictitious company. invite me for the grand opening. Abuja is just a plane away.

Invite you because you are who? Go and continue your business of raising dead people back to life. Such enterprise is best for you.

4everGod:
such delusion! stay glued to your cable tv you just might see me there soon. Thats assuming you watch the religious channels.

Raising people from the dead and healing those of them with HIV via phone calls right. Surely I will.

4everGod:
why not become a follower of the hindu priest then.. why do u feel this is a contest? you got good proceeds yet were fixated over a 500k reward from naijadeyhia

abeg park well or swerve

I gave example of the Hindu priest to show that christians are not the only ones with such testimonies.
During the naijadeyhia challenge I hadn't gotten the proceeds from the sale of the rice milling plants. I clearly stated that I was working and was coming to Lagos on a paid trip by my company. Even with that I'll not do the naijadeyhia challenge without a monetary gain. Not bec5I need it but because I want you to stop perpetuating lies that you raised people from.the dead or you have the ability to heal amputees. You'll not lose your faith after it fails but you'll lose your money and that's enough for me.

Solid proof that atheism is true. When I went for the job interview for my previous high paying job I was the only person that got the job out of about 10 other religious people that applied. Shortly after getting the job I facilitated the sale of 2 multimillion dollar rice processing mills and got very good proceeds from it. I resigned from my job and will set up my own production company at the begining of next year. Atheism is true and God doesn't exist because I've been lucky. My story is true but how does that sound to you guys?

These things happen to everybody. Christains, atheist, muslims,Taoist, etc all get favoured in very strange circumstances. Some survive accidents and dangerous circumstances that defy explanations. It happens to all humans regardless of race or religion. You guys should stop deluding your selves. There are people of other faiths or people who lack faith that have been through situations similar to yours.

Pls watch the documentry of the Hindu priest Syta Sai Baba's followers on YouTube and see for yourself the type of testimonies they share.

Ii

hopefulLandlord:
Now to the OP
the logic used by Christians when thinking about anything else gets suspended temporarily when thinking about the happenings in the hole-ly buybull
I said this on another thread

Christians and Muslims believe that their scriptures can never be wrong so mental gymnastics is the only way to defend some of the things written in inside those book. William Craig is one of the best christian debaters but he is such a confused person sometimes. When cornered he says things that are completely inane. He once said the people that wrote the violent parts of the bible weren't inspired by God and just wrote what came to their mind. He really said that.

So moniker red herring is their rejoinder to the thread?

Certitude:
I am a christian, at least for now, so don't get me wrong.
I usually call it clash of the Holy Spirits. Every one is led by the Spirit yet can't agree. They end up claiming the other is not holy spirit.

They only self project themselves as God while laying claim to the Holy Spirit. KingEbukasBlog knows very well that there is nothing like any holy Spirit guiding christians anywhere else there won't be any confusion. If he believes in the holy Spirit then he should tell the holy Spirit to tell him whose view is correct among the litany he outlined.

4kings:
Is there any answer you know of that disputes the deist God?

I don't know of any deist answer to anything, apart from the aim that God created.

hahn:
And all of these come from one god and one bible?

Anything that comes to his mind he says. He doesn't sit back to reason if it makes any sense.

Where is promise101?

Auki:
Linguistically, ‘Allah’ is an Arabic word derived from the contraction of ‘AI’ and ‘Ilahi’, meaning ‘the God’, or by implication ‘the One God’. Like in other Semitic language ‘Allah’ or ‘Al-Ilahi'' is related to the Hebrew ‘EI’, meaning ‘God’ (Toombs LE 1971), and ‘El-Elohim’, meaning ‘God of Gods’ or ‘the God’ Beavin EL 1971).

This basic similarity between the Arabic ‘Al-Ilahi’, of which ‘Allah’ is a contraction, and the Hebrew ‘El-Elohim’ can be seen even more clearly when one considers the Arabic and Hebrew alphabets. Neither Arabic nor Hebrew have letters for vowels. Both languages have alphabets consisting only of consonants, and both rely on vowel markings, typically found only in formal writing, as a pronunciation guide.

The English transliteration of the Arabic ‘Al-Ilahi’ and of the Hebrew ‘El­Elohim’ have included these vowel markings. If one were to remove the English transliteration of these vowel markings, the Arabic becomes ‘AI­Ilh’ and the Hebrew becomes ‘El-Elhm’. If one were to remove the plural of respect, which is found only in the Hebrew, the Arabic remains ‘AIIlh’, while the Hebrew becomes ‘EI-Elh’, Finally, if one were to transliterate all Arabic ‘Alifs’ as ‘a’, and all Hebrew ‘Alifs’ as ‘a’, the Arabic becomes ‘AI-Alh'.' and the Hebrew becomes ‘AI-Alh’.

In other words, with the single exception that the Hebrew uses the plural of respect, ‘AI­Ilahi’, for which ‘Allah’ is a contraction, and ‘El-Elohim’, the Hebrew translated as ‘God’ in the English version of the Old Testament.

I hope this assist.

The God written about in the bible and the Koran have very different attributes and are not the same. The God if the bible has a name his name is Jehovah Yahweh. He isnt Allah. ISLAM IS NOT his religion.

Auki:
Who is Allah?
Often one hears the Arabic word “Allah” being used in discussions regarding Islam.

This is certainly not the case, since the Pure Monotheism of Islam calls all people to the worship of the God of Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and all the other prophets, peace be upon them.

Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus do not know any Allah. Allah is the invention of Mohammed and his cronies.

DP

KingEbukasBlog:
There are atheists in Religion and have religious beliefs , and there are atheists who mock religion and religious beliefs , does that mean atheists are confused people ?

Atheists do NOT lay claim to some supreme and perfect being who guides them and wants them to know anything. Atheist are humans and as humans they act like humans by having divergent views and perspective since no one is guiding them. Christains on the other hand pretend they have the creator of the universe at their side guiding them but all we see are confused people groping in the dark and not knowing or agreeing with each other on basic things. Again I repeat what is the true position of the Christian God on creation? Does anybody know? Do you know it? Can you tell me?

Christians follow Christ and believe in salvation of their soul . All these differing views don't matter . Your saved soul is all that matters . Accepting Christ as your Lord and personal saviour .

Another nonsense. How salvation can be achieved is still a major problem in christianity. Each sect have their own different views on how salvation can be achieved . Infact the basic nature of Jesus is still a major issue in christianity, while some christians believe Jesus is God himself others believe he isn't God but God's son. A distinct person from God. All have bible passages to support their ridiculous claims. Your drivel about differing views not mattering remains a lie. Go to answers in Genesis website and see how they have tied salvation to believing that the earth and the universe is 6000 years old. You are joke.

JackBizzle:
A fat teddy bear bragging? No fear

KingEbukasBlog:
There is young earth creationism - the belief earth is between 10,000 - 6000 years

There is Old Earth creationism - the belief earth is as old as science says it is

There is Progressive Creationism - the belief God created life gradually over millions of years

There is theistic evolution - The belief God used natural selection as a mechanism for creation

It is clear the OP is ignorant of these and how they could affect his argument

Thank you

Thread closed !

This only shows that there is confusion in christianity and that christians do not know what exactly to believe and as such they just keep making things up as they go. How can people that claim to have the word of God and are guided by some elusive holy Spirit hold such different and divergent views?

Doesn't this show you that christianity is just another man made venture? Which is the true position of the Christian God and what does the christian God want people to know about creation? Is there an entity that is as confused as the Christian God?

KingEbukasBlog:
What is God's purpose of creating the universe as a deist . I discovered a deist can believe in a personal God and that God can mete out punishments on someone in this life and in after life - do you have such beliefs too ?

Will life ever end ? What do you think God is trying to achieve with mankind ?

You ran away from the other thread you opened for him base he showed you verse in the bible that says Jesus is not the same as God . Now you are here asking him irrelevant questions after running from his questions on a thread you opened specifically for him. Funny guy you are.

hopefulLandlord:
this is probably Damogul using alternate monicker in order not to open Pandora's box

He definitely is Damogul.

4kings:
Those questions are yet to be answered by any reasonable philosophical denomination.

Some have attempted and have provided meaningful answers to some of them not all.

hopefulLandlord:
is this a new trick?

abeg shift till your fellow deluded Christian opens the thread with another "bbfever" (nephew from Philadelphia) can't wait till you post on the thread

That one thinks shouting liar liar will stop you from exposing his brother abi na wetin.

hopefulLandlord:
my oga, I tire for that charlatan and him cohorts

he also claimed to have cured someone's heart disease although information revealed the same person eventually died of heart disease

lmao!

This is the same charlatan people want me to go and waste my time with without any monetary reward.