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winner01:
If I was half as angry as you are, I will be on an atheist section on reddit or something to try to force my beliefs down other peoples throats.

I can never be angry with muslims, my whole extended families are muslims and i love them. We talk on who the true God is and I pray for them. I can post the thread of a deaf muslim healed in the name of Jesus or a muslim convert. It is not the same as hate.

Bith christians and muslims are religious on a religion section, oda ade, wetin be your own

Will you shut up? Everybody knows who thr angry and helpless person is. You have complained so many times and expressed your anger towards atheist but we are still here and will remain here. Your hatefilled post towards the muslims are still all there. You can post a video of a boy acting as a deaf muslim to decieve and delude yourself alone. No muslim here that watches it willbe moved by it. You have failed to convert even a single muslim to your religion. Just keep on feasting on your hate and delusions. We will always be here to expose you.

felixomor:
Stating the obvious.
Of course its a biologic function. Explain it. Explain why it happens.
Most other functions are well explained.
Your going to toilet to poo is well explained and everybody knows why it happens.


Explain where ur consciousness is when u r asleep.
Thats the issue.

Playing the "sunday school" card doesnt hide the fact u didnt know nobody has been able to unravel consciousness and sleep.
Hence likening it to walking from a to b.

"A to B" indeed.

Sleep as already been well explained. Visit the Wikipedia page on sleep and see how it has been explained. That you chose to turn a blind eye to it remaims your problem. You should be ashamed that a biological function of humans and animals is your so called example of your imaginary God's love.

winner01:
I was not born a christian, ive lived my life free of religion. I made my findings and got the truth. Its not my fault, you dont like deeper life.
Plus, is all this campaign about your son who has downs syndrome. I want to let you know, im praying for your son and your family. But your hate will do you no good.

No body was born a christian. We are all born free until the society we are living in decides to indoctrinate us with their belief system. I don't have a son and my daughters don't have down syndrome no matter how much you wish for them to have it, they don't have it and can never have it. Carry your hate , bitterness and bad wish somewhere else please.

winner01:
Ok, ive heard. God does not exist, and you want me to believe that with you.

Just say it man, stop beating about the bush. The good thing is that, i'd rather die.

Sure, just as the good things is that many muslims, Hindus etc will rather die than leave their faith. Nothing new there. Just shows that indoctrination is very strong.

winner01:
What do you mean haranguing muslims Are you okay

Nawa oo. Maybe if atheists allowed religious people to share their beliefs in peace on a religion section, maybe there wont be much tension.

You are so angry. I dont know what you are going through, but its not my fault.

Isn't that what you used to do before you discovered atheist and starting pouring your anger and hate on them? If you don't like it that atheist are here just report us to your God already to close down all our accounts. Or better still go open your own blog. Why are you angry and spiteful?

felixomor:
Sorry, ur first statement actually sounds like a kid talking if u dont know.
Till today, even the most intelligent scientists are still puzzled and trying to unravel the mystery of consciousness and even sleep.
Nobody has been able to satisfactorily explain the link between sleep, consciousness and the brain.

U claim to be adult.
But u dont apply reason before talking.
Sorry to say.

Sleep is a biological function of living beings. Billions of humans and animals sleep and wake up daily. I really do not know the point you are trying to make. Sleep is a boilogical function no different than me going to the toilet to poo. Your example of sleeping as an example of God's love is asinine. A lot has actual been explained about sleep, consiousnes and the brain. This isn't your Sunday school class please.

winner01:
Do you think we dont have several atheists like mark zuckerberg who on a normal day will think what you do here is stupid. Ive met an atheist who says he prefers to live in a country full of christians than atheists or others. Ive met atheists who do not think religion is evil, they only claim they have not found enough evidence.

Not every atheist is as angry as you people, same goes for Mark zuckerberg. we have reasonable people who will look at the facts objectively and will have a civil discussion on why they dont believe in God. Not trying out their stupidity online.

Maybe if you and your brothers stopped being angry and be more productive like Zuckerberg, majority of the world wont be scared to vote in an atheist president to avoid the madness that happened in the 20th century in most atheist ruled countries.

A few western leaders are atheist already. Barack Obama is definitely a closet atheist, Hillary Clinton is another. Talking about anger you spend all your time online haranguing muslims back in the days and now atheist yet you still talk about anger? You are one very deluded fellow.

winner01:
There is far more greater good than evil in the world. The fact that your challenges has blurred your vision does not mean everyone's challenges has.

If we worship our imaginations, do you want us to stop worshipping it with you

There is greater good because we have humans doing their best to mitigate evil. If a natural disaster strikes you'll see how humans rally round to help each other. Go to the hospitals and see how humans are helping and saving each others lives. Law enforcement officers are risking their lives to maintain law and order . Human beings are doing good and evil. Where is your God and what role is he playing? He's busy living inside your head and telling you to defend it and explain it's mysterious ways. I've told you no God that lives outside your head will depend on you to defend it or make it's case. Only an imaginary one that lives inside your head will do that.

felixomor:
How many tmes have u used your own power to wake up from sleep in the morning?
Or its by ur power?

Waking up from sleep is just like me walking from point a to point be. Sleep is a biological process. Stop bringing up this idoitic Sunday school examples. You are dealing with adults here not kids.

Don't here is this God that allegedly created the universe but depends on people like winner01 and co to explain to others why evil exist. No God that exist will rely on any of them to explain anything about him to any body. Read their answers and see the gibberish they are saying. When you tell them that they worship nothing but their imaginations they start crying baaaa baaaa baaaa.

Winner01 says he doesn't like evil. He says if he sees evil he'll try his best to stop it, yet he claims that his God whom he claims is the epitome of goodness and love allows evil to exist for reasons he can not articulate or fail at articulating. These guys just keep attributing contradictory characters to this imaginary God of theirs.

God is loving, just and merciful but he allows evil to exist. Take a look at the world today, does it look as if any good, loving or merciful God has any role to play in it? We have good, loving and merciful humans doing and trying their best.

I just want these christians to give us an example of God's love to humanity that is tangible and objective to all humans. Something that all humans when presented with will say oh that's and example of God's love.

winner01:
Great.
Two things. The said man did not fall down headfirst 3 storey unscathed and did not claim to see Jesus.

What can you say about the atheist prifessor in the link I posted.

People have survived death defying falls. People have survived diseases when they were told all hopes were lost including atheist. The story was well documented I think it was the guys close relative I've tried searching for the guys post but can't find it. The man claimed Allah healed him after drinking some special water in Saudi Arabia from his cancer. It doesn't matter if it was Jesus or Allah or Bhrama. These strange and defying stuffs happen to people all over the world including atheist.

As for the atheist professor my opinion is that either he was hallucinating or he was lying. Mass hallucinations have been recorded and very well documented.

winner01:
Of course, as long as it discredits christianity

Well, seun, Lennycool, Hopefullandlord and his 3 other monikers, LightandDarkness and co. could also come in here : https://www.nairaland.com/3409928/atheist-professor-bruce-grindal-witnesses and express their intellectual gymnastics. One of your people weah96 already did.

It would be interesting to see what the rest of you have to say.

Its not about discrediting christianity? The girl in the story did not experience anything different from what others including atheist have experienced. I remember the well documented story a muslim some years ago posted here of a guy that had cancer and went to Saudi Arabia on hajj. According to the post the man drank what he called zam zam water if am not mistaken and was completely healed. The muslims used it as evidence of Allah's miracles that defy modern medicine.

hopefulLandlord:
Chai!!!

just when everything is going smoothly with these deluded Christian apologists and they thinking they've sucker punched atheism
with this thread, even congratulating themselves and Winner01 feeling like terminator and Superman rolled into one


on comes Lennycool to ruin everything
for them

Christians should get this guy banned

report him

report him

report him

. This one is hilarious.

winner01:
John answered your question a long time ago "Whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life"...

Whosoever!!!

Nice, at least you answered albeit not in an unequivocal way. Most christians just run away from the question.

Muafrika2:
Only if they believe in Christ. He's the only way.

First time someone is giving me a straight answer.

true2god:
Where was Mohammed heading to after his death? Do you have any confirmation from the Quran?

Am not a muslim. Answer the question. Will the Jews despite their disbelief in Jesus go to heaven or not?

Christians, will present day Jews go to heaven?

CC winner01, KingEbukasBlog.

menxer:
Like seriously?

I've noticed that christians always deflect the question when you ask them if Jews are going to heaven. I've never seen a stunning answer like this one though. They say Jesus is the only way, but when you ask them about Jews that swear at Jesus most of the time you get nothing but silly comments.

These muslims are crazy. Saudi Arabia is one of the most intolerant countries in the world.

4everGod:
Yet a Jesus existed and from all the people in existence then this particular one was singled out to write about and we have not seens any manuscript that refutes this or says that it was a different Jesus that wad being talked about or that even called him an ordinary man.

Continue clutching at straws.

Mohammed also existed. He divided the moon into two. He is the only person in history that ever did that. Nobody else was singled out and written about like him. You disbelieve in him don't you? Continue clutching at straws.

TheSixthSense:
Four tombs or Two tombs or one tomb. There was a tomb that shows that Jesus Christ died when you decide to go further to check if He resurrected, don't worry about your conscience while you are at it. But how come you believe Constantine and his mother existed? Were they your relatives?

There are bust of Constantine. We have things he wrote down. Even if they were false it doesn't matter becauseextraordinary claims werent made in his name. I admit it could all be a lie everything written about him. Do you have any bust of Jesus? Anything written by him? Any image of him anywhere? Even his tomb is a bone of contention. The ones we are talking about came 300 and 400 years after he died. The gospelsthat tell his story were first written about 40 years after he died. Not saying that there was never a man called Jesus but the one written about inside the bible is a mythical figure.

4everGod:
Yet some here still ask if Jesus was ever real or if he ever existed...Even the scientific world know he did but the little men here on nairaland who do not know what salt is composed of will be feigning intelligence and claiming he was a hoax or he never did what he did.

Jesus is Alive! Why seek ye the living among the dead.

Hope you know that there are two different tombs of Jesus in Jerusalem that christians visit? This one in question was chosen by the mother of Constantine like 300 years after the death of Jesus. How can she know the right tomb 300 years later?

Exciton:
The funny thing is that the superstitious would also have a laugh but leave undiminished in their conviction that chopped body parts can be transformed into money.

That exactly is the irony. Many people laughing it out here will leave her with their conviction that a person can dissappear or fly at night under certain circumstances intact. The cognitive dissonance is kind of too much for them.

winner01:
I told muslims they will burn in hell
I cant remember this

Whatever the church is doing that is not christlike can be judged from the life of Christ.

Dalaman, you know that Christ preached love. It does not matter if some christians willingly go against this teaching. We can call them out for it.

Yes you have threatend muslims with hell many times if they fail to accept your religion in the past. I actually knew you for your anti Islam post back in the days. I keep telling you that Jesus talked about things that are not possible. He said people who believe in him will be able to do anything they want as long as they truly believe it. That is impossible.

No matter how you believe in Jesus there are many things you can not do regardless of your intentions. He promised those that believe in him thr ability to do greater things than all the things written about him. Another fail and impossible feat. No christian can do any of the things written about Jesus talk more or doing more than him. He said people should love their enemies, another impossible feat.

If people can love their enemies they wouldn't be their enemies in the first place, they are their enemies because they can't love them. He said people should love their neighbors as they love them selves. It is impossible. There is no church today in this world where people love their neighbors as they love them selves. A simplementation look at the church today confirms what am saying. The churches do not look like a place where people even love themselvestalk about loving their neighbors.

All the things Jesus said are not possible that is why no Christain can achieve them. Christians don't love their enemies and pray for them, they don't love their neighbors as they love themselves because what Jesus was saying is mythical. You yourself are full of hate and bitterness towards atheist and muslims. You can not love them and pray for them. Your posts show all your hate and bitterness towards atheist and muslims. You can not give what you don't have.

Stop talking about love because you don't even know what it means. You don't have it and you can't give it. You can only keep deluding yourself.

AnonyNymous:
Lol
I thought winner01 declared war on atheists
Now he's trying to convince them that his god loves them. The thing is, you don't declare war on people you love. And keep an eternal burning pit for them. That doesn't make sense.

Do you think winner01 truly believes in anything called love? I remember when he started posting here on the religious section about 2 years ago. All his post then we're anti Islam. He goes there to spew his hate and try to show the muslims that they are wrong and will burn for being muslims. Christians just talk about love without having any in their minds. Look at church today does it look like a place where there is any love? He just use christianity to hide and promote his hate and bigotry.

KingEbukasBlog:
You are good at quoting bible verses but don't know the answer to this question

Come one na !

Why do you follow Pauls injunctions even though it was written to a specific people 2000 years ago?

KingEbukasBlog:
I clearly said that those laws were given to the Israelites years ago - over 4,000 years ago . It does not apply now

Do you tithe? It was given 4000 years ago too. Infact the 10 commandments was given 4000 years ago. Why do you obey it? Pauls letter were directed to the Corithatians, Thessalolians and certain individuals personally about 2000 years agp. .Non was directed to Nigerians. Why do you follow his injunctions?

KingEbukasBlog:
That was God's law to the Israelites years ago . It does not apply to us Christians . Anyone who attempts to justify any such act with that bible text is a deceiver and obviously its a pretext .

There are millions of Jews who still believe and take the OT as their word of God. They do not and can never do that. Go tor Israel and try any of thr things written inside the OT and see if you don't rit in jail despite the OT being their religious book.

KingEbukasBlog:



We had this argument here na : https://www.nairaland.com/3031728/reasons-why-god-not-subject

Ohh really, if that's the case then why do you condem muslims for terrorism for example. After all theyall they are carrying out the will of their God and he isn't subject to human laws.

KingEbukasBlog:
Are kidding me ? Do you know what an atheist state means ?

Atheist states are intolerant of religious practices and religious beliefs . According to Marxism , atheism has to be imposed to achieve the goals of the ideology - that involves killing , incarcerating religious people .

Please read click on those links dear . I don't have time to go over well known facts .

They are learning from your God.

If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known,gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other)do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Deuteronomy 13: 7-9

KingEbukasBlog:
You keep contradicting yourself this babe



From what you said , we can see that they saw murdering anyone who opposes their sick ideology as the right thing to do . To them , killing the contumacious ones was morally justified because they believed religious beliefs stymie human development and the actualization of their socialist paradise .

When your God was ordering total massacre in thr bible wasn't he trying to actualize his own social system ?

Lennycool:
Already answers the OP men. Morals influenced religion and not the other way around. Humans had morals before religion So does every intelligent specie on earth. It is the only way they can build social groups or coexist with one another. And these moral evolve as the species evolve.

Don't mind him. If morals came from God then why do different societies have different moral codes and systems? Which God created the Sharia system of morality? Which God created the caste system some Hindus live by?