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KingEbukasBlog:
Now what are you saying . How many of those companies are owned by Christians . You are always trying to defame Christianity at every given opportunity even if it makes sense or not .

Close to 60 percent of millionaires in the world are Christians . You can smash your head against the wall if its paining you

I am not trying to defame christianity. I am just playing your own games with you. A lot of the casinos, tobacco companies, hedge funds and beer companies in the US for example are owned by Christians. If we are to go by your games we shouldn't include them because they won't count as christians. You are have gotten another chance to slip in a lie. 52% is closer to 50 than 60, no? Some of the American founding fathers owned slaves and professed christianity. If we are to go by what you are crying about. We shouldn't call them christians. But the same you will dishonestly count them as christains when it suits you. Just trying to point out your gimmicks.

KingEbukasBlog:
Do you have proof that every casino , gambling , beer and tombacco company is owned by Christians ? There are 13.1 million millionaires in the world .

And where did I make the claim that all the casinos, tobacco and beer companies are owned by Christains? Must you prevaricate at every given opportunity?

KingEbukasBlog:
Threadbare arguments . Don't you have something new to offer bro ? We have discussed these ad nauseum - its called argumentum ad infinitum should we recommence on this same subject.

You aren't making any sense bro. You are just a master of prevarication. When called out you begin your usual lalala cries.

KingEbukasBlog:
Lmao ... what is wrong with you people ? According to the research , those who were involved in dubious businesses were not named among the millionaires .

How can you say someone killed in the name of Christianity ? Does that sound right to you ? How will " love your neighbours" and "turn the other cheek" make you kill .

Oh Lord !!! And the points I made to prove atheism was the animus that led to the killings with evidence came from critical thinking . And oh my , I was right . No wonder you guys replied with despicable acts of people who claimed there were Christians . You are pained !!!

When has owing casinos, gambling and owing beer companies and tobacco companies become illegal businesses? A lot of christian millionaire own these companies but in your twisted mind you will shamelessly say they are christian millionaires of they leave you because the statistics supports you. A lot of hedge fund managers that do nothing but rip people off by creating artificial money are christians. You mustn't talk if you have nothing to say.

The same bible said that Jesus did not come to bring peace but a sword and you must hate father, mother, family etc to follow him. Jesus also teaches hate. If we are to read the bible as a whole a large part of it is all about God and his chosen people hating others. A very large part of this bible of yours is all about God (Jesus) promoting violence, racism, sexism and hate. The conquistadors in their own words said they killed in the name of Jesus. I will believe them instead of believing you a deluded apologist that doesn't even know what he is saying.

kevoh:
hope? kikikiki Do not worry Dalaman vs 9jadeyhia challenge will be the grand finale! Followed by a plethora of excuses like you can not test the christian god, god works in mysterious ways, they didn't support it e.t.c from the usual suspects.

That remains my greatest fear. I know it will NEVER work. No amputees limb will be restored that I know. I can lay my life that it will never work, so am going to put a money price on it. If it works I'll pay him and of it faails which I know it will, he must pay me. God works in a mysterious way will not do for me. If it fails he must pay since he called for the challenge. I will create a special thread for the event on Sunday.

Weah96:
So you are [size=18pt]without[/size] sin abi? Do you even think before you write?
Atheism is the belief that your god doesn't exist. It has nothing to do with killing people.

He himself is not a christian because he lies, he insults people and as such he has disqualified himself. He is no longer a christians because he sins all the time.

KingEbukasBlog:
Red herring

The pained atheist has scrutinized my points and seen how valid they are , instead of refuting he rushes to the internet to get bad stuff people did in the name of Christianity . You are no longer a follower of Christ if you commit sin

When the data supports you , you shamelessly quote it. On the other thread you said that about 52 percent of the world milionares are Christains but when they point out that a lot of them own businesses like liquor companies, gambling and casino companies etc you won't fail to say that they are not christians . When they show that christians do bad things you quickly say that they are not christians but when they tell you that most Nigerians are christians you are quick to say they are not christians because they do bad things. You are jus a dishonest troll. The conquistadors were christians. They killed over 100 million native Americans in their quest to steal their lands, resources and to convert them. Most of their evil was done in the name of christianity. Cry all you want but they remain christians and they killed over 100 million people in the name of christianity.

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol , did the jazz work ?

Does jazz ever work?

4everGod:
What has your comment got to do with my comment? You are always sounding like you wake up with a bitter heart daily. So i lied that God used me to raise the dead? Ok o. Whatever you say. lol

I don't take the words of liars seriously and I mean it. I'll keep mocking you because you are a shameless liar.You'll just sit behind a computer or phone and by lying shamelessly about raising a person that died back to life. But then you must prove all these lies. Shebi you have brought back a dead person back to life? You'll do that with Cameras all over you for the world to see. You will also heal an amputee too. We shall see.

4everGod:
This is what happens when you read the bible like a story book. Go to the thread below opened by an ex Atheist now Christian who was deeper into Atheism than you. Perhaps it would give you something to think about and since you like probing perhaps you can ask him any question you want along the lines of your argument.

https://www.nairaland.com/3289461/atheism-jesus-testimony

This is what happens when you get embarrassed by the actions of your God and try to spin it. Shebi you lied that you resurrected a person back to life? We shall see. You must prove all these lies of yours.

winner01:
Prophet Isaiah was speaking of God in a vision.

Speaking of God killing people, staining his cloth with their blood and boasting that he did it alone without any body helping him, right? Saying it's a vision is your own making. No where does it even state it's a vision. I repeat your God remains the best role model for all the militant atheist you keep yapping about. He is all over Tue place talking about spilling blood and killing people.

4everGod:
Where is the requested update on your nominated test subjects?

My God is waiting for you.

We shall see. I'll get back to you finally on Sunday.

winner01:
That was a vision of the prophet. Were are the people in question?

Vision of which prophet? A passage has your God talking and boasting about how he killed people alone and you are here trying to spin it as a vision.

4 It was for me the day of vengeance;
the year for me to redeem had come.
5 I looked, but there was no one to help,
I was appalled that no one gave support;
so my own arm achieved salvation for me,
and my own wrath sustained me.
6 I trampled the nations in my anger;
in my wrath I made them drunk
and poured their blood on the ground.”

Your God according to the bible makes people drunk with his wrath and pours their blood on the ground after spilling it and boasting of how he did it alone. As I said luckily such an imaginary being remains only the idea of the writer.

4everGod:
Don't mind dalaman. He is enbittered and heavy laden with so much hate and venom towards God as if God took something very dear to him.

Instead of channelling his anger positively he is busy trying to shadow box God.

You must prove that your God is real oo. You must heal an amputee on camera.

winner01:
Very angry fellow. God does not kill because he is not a man.

God doesn't kill because he is imaginary in reality. But in the pages of story books like the bible we have him killing people and boasting that he killed them all alone without help from anyone.

" I have been treading the winepress alone; no one was there to help me. In my anger I have trampled my enemies as if they were grapes. In my fury I have trampled my foes. Their blood has stained my clothes "- Isaiah 63:3

See your murderous God in action killing people and gloating that he did it alone with nobody's help. He is even saying that the people's blood stained his cloth. So your God wears cloths. Luckily thos God idea remains the fictious imagination of the writer.

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol . I wonder you guys believe misconceptions Christians would tell you that right explanation yet you'd be adamant to change your view or position .I understand , you guys need those misconceptions to appear reasonable .

Which misconceptions? According to the bible God is the same yesterday , today and forever. How is that a misconception? As usual you always have nothing reasonable to say.

KingEbukasBlog:
I've explained the immutability of God to you but we know atheists always obdurate about their empty misconceptions . Sir , please address the argument

You've explained nothing. Just throwing excuses as usual.

KingEbukasBlog:
A blatant red herring



But anyway , here are Jesus' words

John 13:34-35
34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

[size=14pt]Any "christian" who kills will go to HELL . [/size]

Jesus deprecates depravities and violence . Ideologies that advocate for peace and non violence have traces from the words of Jesus


Please address the OP let's begin from the there

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Jesus is the same as God who never changes. All over the bible we have God (Jesus) calling for death and destruction of people .

winner01:
Dont cry!!!

"We will substitute materialism for [philosophical] idealism and atheism for theism."- Mao Zedong, Examples Of Dialectics, 1959


Do you want 10 more?

I just want one where he said he killed all the people because he wanted them to be atheist.

KingEbukasBlog:
Don't blame me if you can't understand that those bible verses refute your claims .

Refutes which claims? Are all christians united? Do christians agree? Is your pastor not a false prophet according to another chiristain? Where is the standard Christains doctrine or church?

KingEbukasBlog:
Those people delivered Israel from their captors or oppressors they were judges - rulers who saw them through war

Shut up. Just the way ISIS and BH are also judges right? Delivered them from captors or land grabbers and theives? If we are to go by your pathetic reasoning we can as well conclude that Moa was also a judge who also wanted to keep people in line who saw his people through a difficult time. In fact he is still honoured and revered in China till tomorrow. It's funny and pathetic that you accuse others of genocide and then use this elusive God idea of yours who you claim is the epitome of all morality to justify genocide. Pathetic.

KingEbukasBlog:
1Corinthians 1 : 10
I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree together, so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be united in mind and conviction.

Matthew 7: 15
15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 1

That's what christians all accuse each other of. Even your pastor is a false prophet according to other christians. There is no universal christian doctrine that is acceptable by all. Throwing empty bible passages doesn't help here.

winner01:
Lmao

On which issue is the bible clear? You have not even convinced your selves on the true nature if Jesus i.e if he is God or God and his son at the same time. If the bible is clear then why is christianity in such a great state of confusion with different sects and denominatons all at each other's neck claiming the true interpretation of what the bible days?

winner01:
[size=15pt]If boko haram continues to kill for the next 20 years at theist rate, they still wont meet the record of madness frim just one atheist. Mao ze dong.[/size]

Where did Moa kill people in the name of atheism like say Moses, Ezekiel, Joshua and all the genocidal idiots in your bible who killed people ONLY because Yahweh told them to according to the bible?

shadeyinka:
There are several sources of NDE...and even Several from even non christian sources. Near Death Experiences have been scientifically proven.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QE7B2SJSC8

See a longer documentary below:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NRub9z8hPA

These documentaries are christians apologist and evangelical nonsense. NDE are true. They are induced in labs using drugs and the effect is the same regardless of religion. It is what your experience when your brain is fried as a result of lacking somethings like oxygen.

shadeyinka:
NDEs cannot be Dreams or Hallucinations because usually the brain activity is dead. I guess its something sincere Atheists need to examine. Its not really about finding God but finding Yourself..

The part in bold is false. NDE can easily be induced in the lab using drugs. It occurs when you starve your brain of somethings like oxygen for example. NDE occur when the body is fully active. Out of body experience is what is understudy and uptil now nothing concrete has been established on that. Just some fringe group using people's fears to make money with bogus stories.

Strawman:
(This long message may have just appeared from nowhere...baba I booked space and slept abeg)

The soul is a metaphysical concept. The idea is that after we die, we still exist in another form which we are conscious of.

For many reasons, I refuse to believe the atheists' POV that it's all materialistic, and we totally cease to exist and lose consciousness when we die.

There was a case of one Eben Alexander III, a Harvard neurosurgeon, who suffered a near death experience: he was in a week-long coma, and brain scans showed that his entire cortex (the parts of the brain that give us consciousness, thought, memory, and understanding) was not functioning. However he later managed to wake up and claimed to have been awake in another realm - "heaven".

Well wherever this man's 'mind' went to during his coma (be it a dream, a vision, any other kind of psychological experience or perhaps reality even), the thing is: normally he requires his brain cortex to be at least active for him to even be aware/conscious of whatever he was experiencing - yet it wasn't even functioning then. This just means our true consciousness is beyond the physical brain that we attribute it to (the brain is a factor, yes, but not totally).

I also read articles that quantum physics may as well have proven that our consciousness (life in fact) continues after death, which obviously this feat cannot be achieved by the physical body. There are a number of quantum physicists who supported this even.

If you venture into the study of metaphysics, you'll see that the concept of a soul is not too hard to grasp.

Basically, we're within a parallel realm that's beyond our normal senses/perception, it involves a lot of phenomena which transcends the physics we know, and we are connected to this realm in one form or another (not through our body, but through our soul).

Too long didn't read: Yes, there is a soul

¡ʇᴉƃǝl sᴉ ʇᴉ ʇnq 'uɐɯ pɐɯ ɐ ʎq pǝdʎʇ sɐʍ ʇᴉ ǝʞᴉl ʞool ʎɐɯ sᴉɥ┴

Eben Alexander has been shown to be a fraud.

Anas09:
Governor Fayose prayed for that cripple, he walked in the name of Jesus. You care about denying it?

The guy isn't a cripple.

Anas09:
Oh Dalaman, we have nothing to proof to you. Am saying to you all, keep your unbeliefs, they don't change a single thing. The OP wasted his time on you guys.
Btw, am still waiting for you to introduce me to your flying Spaghetti God. Funny dude.

You are actually an unbeliever. Allow those that truly believe to demonstrate their belief in action. An unbeliever like you has nothing to offer.

KingEbukaNaija:
The Lord's Chosen bro . Visit the church to see for yourself

The Lord's Chosen is a business venture. If he takes an amputee there he'll be driven away.

naijadeyhia:
you talk too much you know! Have you begun contacting them yet? 2 days has already elapsed.

. We shall see who talks to much.

KingEbukaNaija:
No one is making claims bro . I told Naijadeyhia to take photos and videos but as usual not everyone will believe . The Jews witnessed Jesus' (God himself ) miracles right there as they happened and the expected corollary was to believe and accept him but he was rejected by many .

Will you promise to become a Christian after you have witnessed the miracle ? In all honesty

Yes I promise to be a christian if I witness it. I can't but be a christian if I experience such an incredible thing.