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KingEbukaNaija:
Praying for someone over the phone and the person receiving his healing is not new bro . . It has been tested and verified .

Will you put your money where your mouth is and do it?

KingEbukaNaija:
Anas09 just gave a testimony similar to this. EXPLAIN IT AWAY as usual . Bad business ko . Christ already healed Marcus' ear that was cut off ,healing an amputee is nothing .

I don't believe in hear say. You have the ability to heal amputees. Come join naijadeyhia as well on the date we will fix and show us that restoring the arms of an amputee is nothing. No more endless claims on nairaland. Just come and shown is that it is real and shut us up forever.

KingEbukaNaija:
Damn . These guys are shocked at these testimonies . Where do you guys on Sundays ? To the other side of the bed

Can you heal a person through the phone ? We can test that too son that we won't be suprised and shocked once you demonstrate that to us.

KingEbukaNaija:
Hmmm . Why do you have lots of people with strange illnesses around you I believe you are making these things up . But anyway , I want you to experience God's glory yourself so the effusive pean would come from you in acknowledgement of God's goodness . You should have changed your church bro , not your faith . ( I wore those glasses in slow motion though )

People with strange illness around me? Since when has HIV become a strange illness? What about down syndrome? How is that a strange illness? There are many amputees around? That itself is not strange. I would have taken up tour challenge and go to your church, but tour pastor will not even admit them if I tell him that I am there with an amputee for a miracle, he won't admit us vlbecause he knows it will be bad for his business. No pastor in Nigeria will accept or even try to heal an amputee because he/she knows that it will fail and be bad for business. I only accepted naijadeyhia because he personally challenged me and because he said his God will use him to personally carry out the miracle according to him.

KingEbukaNaija:
You keep talking trash bro . None of your philippics condemning miracles has been effective . God has been working and will always work miracles and doesn't need any validation from mere hoi polloi like you nullifidians .

Bla bla bla. We will test it. You can come as well and let's see how your God will heal an amputee. After all you are one of those that truly believe that if I come to your church the Lord's chose I will be able to have the amputated arms of my friend's child restored. We will do it and see who is living in an imaginary world. After it fail which I know it must. You will be part of the people throwing out excuses and denying naijadeyhia. That I know for sure.

crusadistic:
Why the long wait...can't he just perform the miracle over the phone,like he claimed he can do

He said he raised someone from the dead and healed a person of HIV through the phone. Can you beat that? Only time will tell.

braithwaite:

If you have a particular faith or religion, that is good. But you can survive without it


The funny thing is 89.9% theist know this miracle will eventually fail..but theyre so cleaved to that FAITH thingy..I'm astounded to that man who want to 'HEAL AN AMPUTEE ' when it's hard enough for t.b Joshua,adeboye and rest to do such at random without taggin faith on it..c'mon ah dey wait..

Either the miracle happen or not.. that doesn't change the fact that theist will be theist and same as atheists

Shebi God is a comedian playing to an audience that is too afraid to laugh shey?..ah swear ah go laugh that day

I BET my life that it will fail. NON of the people I will bring will be healed . I know that 10000000%, not the child with down syndrome, not my friend that is HIV positive or the child that is an amputee. But as you said it won't stop christians from believing . If it happens it will stop all the atheist there from becoming atheist. We all all turn to radical evangelist. It will fail and you will see the excuses the christians will be throwing around. You will be suprised that many christians will turn their back on naijadeyhia. They will disown him, call him names, accuse him of testing God and playing with him when in reality he is only displaying his true faith and belief.

Anas09:
Even if you see, you wont believe. You'd find an excuse why you shouldnt believe. My God doesnt answer to you. You haven't even been able to make your own father answer to you, yet you sit with your little brain and think Yahweh will talk back at you? Go and eat, you are hungy.

You are just afraid that it will fail. When car manufacturers make claims about their newly invented cars and display it for the public, do you see anybody denying it? Why will I even deny the fact of seeing the amputated arm of a child I know being restored? You guy easily give yourselves out because you know deep down that your belief is false. Jesus we are told in the bible promised those of you the ability to do greater things than he did. We will put it to test and see if it is true. Any excuse shows that you do not believe in what you are saying?

naijadeyhia:
By the way dalaman those you wish to bring have to agree to full disclosure as your word wouldnt be enough for me. They need to agree to name disclosure, address or home and work disclosure.

If kids or a kid is among those you wish to bring their parents or guardians written and notarized letter has to be sent ro me clearly indicating names and confirmable home addresses. If the Parents or guardian wishes to accompany them then they must also put it in writing detailing the reason why they are coming to lagos with their child or ward and also include their verifiable details. ( when you are ready I will send you my email)

I stated the above because there is nothing an Atheist cannot do in order to discredit. They could bribe Police to raid and arrest me and frame me up with kidnapping or attempted kidnapping by deception and it will be on Nairaland front page that a certain so and so attempted kidnapping in the name of Jesus.

So since I would be providing my address and I have already provided my phone number its only logical to demand for same from the other party...including you dalaman.

At least if they are in Portharcourt or Abuja or anywhere else nairalanders in that locality can also independently confirm them for themselves.
Abi kingebukanaija and winner01 am I not speaking the truth?

Sure. That's why I said I'll have to arrange it first.

naijadeyhia:
There is a personal and deep reason why dalaman is angry with God and the body of Christ and we will soon find this out.

Am not angry with anybody. Sure we will soon find out if your belief is as real as you claim.

winner01:
Argument?

Are you bringing your child too?

Nope. Why? Am bringing the children of friends.

naijadeyhia:
No man has the ability to do the work except in Christ. We are just conduits.

So is 30 or 60 days enough time to make the arrangements?

It is very enough. 30 to 40 days is very OK.

naijadeyhia:
Why use the word "hopefully" ? Are you no longer sure of these people?

You must make this happen. No buts or perhaps or hopefully?

Stick to your word!

It will be done. Don't worry. You said you will heal them and I said you won't because all claims of miracles are false. So we will do it.

naijadeyhia:
You do not need to wait till then to call me. You can first call me now so everyone will know we are both real people and not bots or Children. I will post the voice call recording here as first proof of contact. ...even a whatsapp chat from you is acceptable

I will call you. Relax, things have to be arranged first. It is something that will be done hopefully.

naijadeyhia:
And how long would this take? At least you need to give the Nairaland populace a time bracket

I will revert once I talk with them. I can't give a time brackert because it is not up to me. The guy with HIV works so it has to be a weekend where he doesn't go to the office. The other two are kids so their parental consent must be approved and all. All I know is that I will arrange them and bring them over.

naijadeyhia:
I will ask you daily for arrangement details until I get a date. Dalaman you must deliver!

. Ok oo.

naijadeyhia:
A neutral video crew would be gotten and not from you as you guys can doctor anythinf in order to create doubts. Besides I would personally ensure 3 different video crews video it all from 3 different angles so no camera would say something else. All must correspond and I will have a 4th personal camera also added. Feel free to bring yours.

How can the healing of an amputee or a baby with down syndrome be doctored? I actually intend using my phone to record the event.

naijadeyhia:
In fact let me take charge of the logistics for you just in case you do not have the wherewithal right now.

How do you want these people to come? Road, Air?

Can I have their names and I will personally fund all your trips. ..air or land.

Accommodation would also be taken care of by me as well as feeding.

All of this would be documented as proof of the whole shebang.

I will call you once I speak with them and make full arrangements. Everything will be documented. It's not a big deal. I just need to talk to them first and get them ready.

naijadeyhia:
If with thd names written in the Bible of those Jesus healed you still do not find it proof enough so how would my giving you a name be proof enough?

You need live proof and personal witnessing. So come and visit the hospital he died and got resurrected in, speak to the doctor who certified him dead and the nurses who were around as well.

We will do a video documentary with you in it and place it here on NL. Isnt that better?

I don't need that. I am coming with my own people. A video documentary will be done.

naijadeyhia:
By the way Dalaman in case you do not have airtime to call me with...that number is also Whatsapp registered so you can chat me up then we can both screengrab our convo for NL documentation. Plus pics of events in detail.

Either you or hardmirror can call me or chat me up.

The onus is on me to show you Jesus......so don't feel pressured ok?

I am not pressured. I have to make arrangements with the people first and get back to you. It will be done and posted here. It's not a difficult thing at all.

naijadeyhia:
I reside I Ajah and here is my number....08167538446... call me and we will arrange where to meet. Also make sure you come along with Hardmirror so he can also show how he can carry out his healing of such without Christ.

We need to do this the way it was done with Pharaoha magicians and Moses

OK. It will be done when I get to Lagos. Thanks

naijadeyhia:
I thought Hardmirror a fellow Atheist said he can do same and does not need Christ to do it. Have you asked him to carry this out in your presence so you have concrete proof that God does not exist?

You are fixated on the God does not exist theory and not on the Gkd exists theory...your focus should naturally be for God does not exist proofs not on the ons that show he Exists... besides like I said I respect the privacy of those involved.

My brother don't you have any shame? You just challenged me to bring people to you with HIV and madness and see if they will not be healed. I said you should tell me your location. I will bring a baby that was born with serious down syndrome, another 7 years old whose arm was amputated a d a friend who is HIV positive for you to heal. You just LIED shamelessly that you resurrected someone back to life, stop hiding under any privacy of the person because there is no such person. Any body that died an rose again will not want to be private. Did Jesus respect the privacy of people when he brought them back to life as we're told in stories written about him? Did he respect the privacy of the people he healed? Their names were written in the bible. You claim you are just like Jesus and following his footsteps so why don't you really act like him. Tell us the name of the person you personally brought back to life after the person was declared dead and contaxt adress so that we can verifiy. Just tell me your address so that I will bring the people to you. You show us this Jesus abilities you have.

naijadeyhia:
Dalaman which Church offended you? Did you have a need that when you approached your local church back in the day they couldnt meet and so you got offended and decided to be a rebel so as to prove a point?

A baby when he is born has inherent abilities that nedd to be unlocked.... no baby is born walking....babys first steps are always by faith as its something they have never done before. They fall but keep on trying because they believe they can and are loving the experience. ...eventually they can not only walk but also run and jump.

If you do not try you would never find out.

God knows the ability he placed in man so The Christ is very possible. The secret Key is faith.

Do you have faith? Yes you do.

You dalaman has faith ....but you have it in the wrong things. Switch it to the right stuff and experience that which you argue about.

You said that you have raised the dead and healed a person of HIV right? You even challenged me to bring people to you. Good. You must prove it. Your location and when it will be done is what I want. Everything will be recorded and posted here.

naijadeyhia:
Miracles? God has used me to raise the dead, cast out demons, heal sicknessss and diseases and if He can heal one he can heal all.

The name of person that died and you brought back to life is? . As you said if God can heal.one he can heal all and of God can use you to raise a dead person then he can use you to perform any type of miracle. This is exactly what I want. We will test it.

By the way 2 Nairalanders I have never met but who reached out to me...one with HIV and another with fibroid have been healed simply via prayer over the phone....doctors report (before and after) are with me but I will respect their privacy...

You are lying. Anybody that is HIV positive and has been cured will be happy if the world knows about the cure. You have healed no such person. Only in your dreams.

Beaides I thought you Atheists say you can also live the same life Christians live without being a Christian and can pray to anything and get same results...I think you need to ask hardmirror this afterall he said it.

He said this simply because there is no difference between the life of Christians and non christians in reality.

Why not bring me a mad man or an HIV patient and see if they would not be healed.

Let's test this once and for all. I ASSURE YOU 100% THAT IT WILL FAIL. I will bring a person that is HIV positive to you. The other is my friend's daughter who was born with very serious down syndrome and the other a friend's child who has one of his arms amputated. Tell me your location if you are in Nigeria so that it can be arranged.

winner01:
It is almost impossible for you to become as waelthy as John. Rockefeller too...
Why bother earning money and doing buisnesses?

There are many people that are as rich as he is at least. Nobody not even one person can live the life of Jesus and what he says as described in the bible. It's like flying like a bird. You can do that because you have no wings. We can examine this things as see them for ourselves. Christians always talk about this unending love they have and share and what a not. Take a look at all the churches in the world. Do they reflect where there is unending love? Do christians truly reflect what Jesus tell them to do in the bible? The answer is no because it is fictional. No matter how you convince your self that you are a bird you can never fly because it is impossible for a human being to fly like a bird from point a to point B. Humans don't have wings.

4kings:
OK I get your point (agnostic atheism) and absolute atheism as it relates to man-made ideas.
But absolute atheism in the real sense does not make sense.

Sure.

winner01:
And so because the standard is perfection, we should not strive towards perfection?

Which elusive perfection are you talking about? It is just an impossible and unattainable position. If it is attainable we would have seen it. It is the same thing as Jesus promise to answer ALL prayers that are said with little faith as that of a mustard seed. It is not possible.

winner01:
I was not given a book, I found a book.
I searched for truth and what I got led me back to scriptures.

Same can be said for Muslims, Hindus etc. Muslims on nairaland say the same thing too. They'll tell you that they honestly search and studied all religious scriptures and they discovered the Koran to be the best and the greatest. Nothing comes close to the Koran they claim. They see light and life in the Koran that they sometimes cry when reciting it because it fills them up with awe.

I spared years doing this and im still doing this.
One thing you dont know, I don criticize christians and christianity pass all of una.

You people here are specially weak and shallow especially when you try to debunk christianity.

That is just the way you see it. You just criticize members of the religion that belong to other sects and nothing more.

Christianity began with Christ. Christ existed too.
Even secular sources have confirmed that severally.


I dont claim to know all the answers, and neither can anyone. I still have serious questions about life.
But the Bible has consistently proven to be infallible even in the face of centuries of scrutiny.

It does not give us all the answers to science, arts, philosophy e.t.c But it records for us a serious message that can only be decoded by a mind that is honestly open.

How has the bible been shown to be infallible? There are some scientific errors, historical errors and clear legend and mythical narratives in the bible. To deny that is to deny reality.

naijadeyhia:
CHRISTIANITY is not a religion. You Atheists call it a religion not us. We call it a way of life. CHRISTIAN means "like christ" so CHRISTIANITY means LIVING LIKE CHRIST. Its not ritualistic but is one life with the follower of its teaching. In essence its something you practice with the Help of the spirit of Christ until the message becomes your very life. Preach it! Walk it! Live it! ITS IN THE CHRISTIAN!

You can't live like Christ. You can't ever, no matter how you try you can't. You can't do any of the things they said he did despite him promising you people that believe in him the ability to do greater things than he did. You personally can not do even one of the things they said he did. We can easily test it and we'll see that you will fail on every level. You can not go about healing people at will as Jesus did. You can't do that. If I slap you, you will not turn the other cheek, if I forcefully take your shirt, you will not give me your coat as Jesus urged you to do, you do not love your enemies, instead you pray to God to protect you against them, you do not love your neighbour as you love your self. It is actually impossible to do that. No body can live the life of Christ as portrayed in the bible that is why christianity has always been a mess and has never been any different from any of the world's religion. Take a look at the church in all countries and tell me how it stands out from the normal unbelieving society at large. No body can be like Christ as described in the bible because that type of life is fictional.

4kings:
Aye aye captain.
Love to see deist on nairaland, cos I for one think absolute atheism is arrogant.

Absolute atheism with regards to man made God's like Yahweh, Allah, Zues, Ra, Brahma, etc isn't arrogant because these God's are all man made ideas. They are purely human inventions. Am an agnostic atheist in the sense that I do not believe in all the man made Gods. I do not know if the universe was created or not. What ever force or forces created the universe do not want humans to know about them from all indication so I do not worry myself about that.

KingEbukaNaija:
I'm not denying anything . I simply asked if he was a true man of God in the first place

How do you know a true man of God? Are you a true christian?

VomeSchakleton:
You're trying too hard to act like a proper Atheist mate, it's very transparent and sadly pathetic.

This has nothing to do with my atheism. Your man just lied and I pointed it out. Where is the scientific research ?