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winner01:
I'm more reasonable than you are, thats why you should listen to me. Try harder, i still refuse to discuss God with you or any atheist. I done that in the past and i'm done with that. I've adopted a better approach.

Christ-ians are people who want to be like christ. When you point out where Jesus promoted violence, maybe ill consider discussing that with you. Jesus is our standard, whoever threatens you can be judged using the life of Jesus, since we are Christ-ians.

You are concerned with my opinion because it hit you really bad.


Atheist Cody Pendant mocks believers for tithing, neglecting to state that the faithful use the money they receive to maintain the hospitals, homeless shelters, soup kitchens,
orphanages, schools, and churches they run, which all serve God and His people. Perhaps Pendant should study sociological research, which demonstrates that the religious are four times more charitable than atheists.

So Jesus is not the same as the God of the bible again? Jesus said in the Bible that him and his father the God of the bible are one. Most christians say Jesus is the same person as God. In the bible we have God promoting all kinds of genocide and infanticide. Here is your God in action. Teaching all the violent militant atheist how to act.


Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)

Your God remains the best teacher of all the militant atheist in world. They get all their clues and inspiration from him.

winner01:
Okay

American Atheists, an atheistic hate group notable for opposition of a Holocaust Memorial ( http://fxn.ws/1kXPOBv ) and the opposition to the preservation of a Memorial Cross for the World Trade Center Museum (http:///1iuzOp2 ) bans hundreds of individuals from its page after losing multiple
discussions on their posts. American Atheists particularly ensured the ban of peaceful individuals who promoted a compatibility of faith and science in order to further entrench the false dichotomy of 'Young Earth Creationism' and the metaphysical position of 'Atheistic Evolution' ( http:///1bsTTrm ).

If atheists are so sure of their beliefs, why do they censor those who provide sound logical arguments against
them?

Here are your christians brothers advocating for atheist to be killed and raped.

winner01:
You know the number of atheists that curse out christians is far greater.

I never claimed christianity has made Nigeria a better society. ValentineMary, an atheist like you agrees that politicians, entertainers, scam pastors etc are not really christians but just act it for public acceptance. I can post his quote here. If most of the people at the helm of affairs of Nigeria are pretending to be christians, what does that make Nigeria?
An hypocritic country, just like ive always stated.
USA and UK owe their greatness to christianity. Ive proven this to you before.

Will you keep quite you liar. Which of the founding principles of the US is a christian can be found inside the bible for example? Is it the separation of church and state? Is it the right to bear arms? Is it the freedom of speech? Is it capitalism? Which of these principles that made the USA a great country can be found inside the bible apart from slavery?

Here is a page your christians brothers opened solely to pour out their hate for atheism. You can go and join them there please.

winner01:
I've adressed all these issues before. You can take your time to read up all my posts. I'm done with all that crap.
This thread is a proof of the violence potential of atheists all around the world. If this is the only defence you can come up with, then sorry is your name.

Jane Cook-Reavis advocates the persecution of believers in the form of feeding them to lions. In an atheistic rally in 2012, many
militant atheists similarly held signs stating “so many Christians, so few lions”, encouraging the persecution of believers

You have addressed this topic? Who are you? ? Why should any body waste his time reading your baseless opinion?

Here is your God advocating for more death and blood. All the militant atheist got their inspiration from him.

“Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.” (Ezekiel 9:5-7)

Even little kids are not left behind by this dangerous and murderous God of yours. The one that remains the source of inspiration for all violent militant atheist.

winner01:
Why the bitterness? Does this thread look like it seeks to discuss the topic of God?


This atheistic facebook supports the destruction of houses of worship. It was liked by another atheistic facebook page. Indeed
militant atheists have a history of destroying synagogues, mosques, churches, temples, etc. because these houses of worship promote beliefs different than their own: http://www.youtube.com/watchv=FAzW5zb35ok

Maybe the militant atheist got their inspiration from your God that commanded the killing and destruction of the temples of those that worshiped other Gods .Remember the Story of Elijah and the prophets of Baal. After the contest all the.prophets of Baal were slaughtered. Surely the militant atheist got their inspiration from the God of the bible no doubt.

Here is your God commanding people to kill unbelievers.


They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)

winner01:
Wait a minute. I saw dalaman viewing this thread.

Dalaman, abeg take this takeaway package.

Cody Laws, a militant atheist from Johnson City (Tennessee) supports his partner, the leader of an atheistic hate group, Jessica Swain. Moreover, Cody Laws promotes forced sodomy.

I can go to various right wing christian groups and grab as many hate filled messages against non christians and atheist and post here. ANY fool can play that game. I will only reference well and balance reporting from reputatable news outlets. Christian intoleranceis responsible for the backlash they get from atheist in the US today as confirmed by time magazine.

http://time.com/3450525/atheists-arent-the-problem-christian-intolerance-is-the-problem/

winner01:
Share this with Dalaman.


Florance Quigly, a militant atheist and possible administrator of several facebook pages that advocate hatred towards the religious, including one that advocates silencing (massacring) the lambs (religious believers) commented on an FFAF post that
we are delusional. Contrary to propaganda spouted off by Quigly, science shows that religion is associated with better
mental health: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/diane-bederman/mental-illness-religion_b_4595872.html

Religion is also associated with a more healthier society in general: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=558264474196024&set=a.296894256999715.69511.278360458853095&type=1&relevant_count=1

Florance Quigly's profile is named: https://www.facebook.com/felatio.queen

It shamefully advocates pornography. Let this be a lesson to believers that we should take our kids to worship every week so that they might not end up with a perverted mind. Quigly's lack of parenting may have resulted in her atheism, as that is directly
related to the Psychology of Atheism: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=565995053422966&set=pb.278360458853095.-2207520000.1371239203.&type=3&src=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-b-a.
akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash4%2F215234_565995053422966_1813822834_n.jpg&size=491%2C381

What is this? I have seen christians wish death and harm on atheist here on Niraland so what the hell are you saying? Christianity has made Nigeria a better society how? Name one country that christianity has made better. Just one.

winner01:
Who decided what is good and what isnt?

The human society. That is why what is good or bad varies from society to society and from period in time. Your God has nothing to do with morality since he is imaginary. All moral laws are man made, people only use the various God ideas that created as an enforcing mechanism. Even the societies that use to sacrifice their enemies or children to their God's did so with the support of their various imaginary God's. Men created all the moral codes of conduct and used what ever concept of God as an enforcing mechanism. When slavery was OK your God was even advising people on how to sell their daughers into slavery in the bible.

Why do people become atheist? The answer is simple: They got to realize that they were indoctrinated with imaginary ideas of Gods.

winner01:
I would have loved to agree with you. But you'd have know everything (omniscience) and be everywhere (omnipresent) to make such a claim.

Ravi Zacharias sums up my thoughts in this quote "To sustain the belief that there is no God, atheism has to demonstrate infinite knowledge, which is tantamount to saying, "I have infinite knowledge that there is no being in existence with infinite knowledge"

If there was a God you will not be telling anybody about it. How many atheist have you been able to convert? Infact how many catholics have you been able to convert and make them see things your way? You have tried and have failed terribly. No God that is alive and wants people to know him will rely on a failure like you. Only a God that lives inside your head will do that.

KingEbukaNaija:
The appropriate rebuttal may not be necessary but let's address this anyway .

Does a supernatural Being need to obey natural laws ? I mean we have a God who is above nature and is the light of the world and he cannot make plants survive without sunlight You mean this same God that temporarily stopped the motion of the earth so that Joshua would decimate the enemies of Israel cannot do such ?

Such a God exist only in story books and books of mythology not in reality. After all Allah also made Mohammed the prophet of Islam to divide the moon into two and bow down to him. The way you confidently spew Jewish mythology as if it real is mind boogling. You have failed to show that the universe was created by a single entity that speaks Hebrew. You have failed to show that this imaginary entity that the Hebrews created in their minds created the universe and not the pantheon of Hindu Gods. Let's assume that the universe had a creator. Please prove to me with objective evidence that it wasn't created by the Hindu God Brahma but by the God of the ancient Jews Yahweh. How does the earth stop rotating in reality? Dont come up with your silly escapist tactics of I have faith and that is all that matters. If you say that then don't expect anybody to not laugh at you and take you for a mumu.

gambus007:
i dont understand dis ur suffering nd smiling...am in ghana so i know what am saying.s and s is not the issue bro.i can host u if you wann visit mayb you will understand better.am on scholarship and i earn dollars so am not suffering rather i am smiling but still not happy in ghana

Pls can I have your email address? My brother just got a job in Ghana with a foreign embassy and will need assistance for say a week before he settles down. Let me have your email address please. Thanks

KingEbukaNaija:
A anthropomorphic creator , deity

You've shown that only one creator is responsible for the universe how?

Nature

Nature is evidence for nature. There is no God's name or signature in any part of nature.

God is everywhere

If God is everywhere then how comes I can see, feel, hear or objectively observe it? How did you get to know this God. Did you have a one on one conversation with it and it told you its every where or did you read it some where or someone told you?

What is God and how have you objectively proven that such a thing exist? What is God and how does it exist?

KingEbukaNaija:
How do you know that there are millions of planets in the universe ?

What has millons of planets got to do with your inability to provide objective evidence for this imaginary God of yours.

winner01:
Sell falsehood among themselves on a religion section. What are you here to sell? Unbelief? Dopemu.

Tell your God to quickly ban all the atheist here so that they can allow you christians to keep debating if Mary should be worshiped as the mother of God or not, or if God truly exist as a trinity or not. You guys have not finished debating this issues and more amongst yourselves. Tell your God to hurry up and ban all atheist . In fact he should ban nairaland as a whole since it's owned by an atheist.

frank317:
I hate ur nonexistent God.if I catch him, I will stick a long rod through his anus.

Are u guys happy now?

My question.... why do Christians find joy in thinking that atheists hates their nonexistent God. Why does ur God like whining like someone with low self-esteem?

You think if their God exist as they claim he will rely on them for anything? They themselves know that their God lives only inside their heads that is why they feel bad when their religious beliefs are questioned or ridiculed.

Atheist do not hate God. God is just a human idea that was created by humans. If there is a God atheist will be arguing with it directly. No such God exist anywhere, what exist in reality is believers that buy into and were indoctrinated with what ever God concept or idea their families or societies chose to indoctrinate them with, be it christian, muslim, Hindu, Taoist etc.

God's and religions are human inventions that is why there are many different Gods and many different religions. Atheist dislike and challenge the idea or those that subscribe to the God idea. No God exist in reality. If any God exist in reality winner01 will be the last person it will rely on to defend him, argue on its behalf or propagagte it's message. It will do it himself. After all despite your daily messages to atheist you have never been able to convert any to you beliefs meaning you have failed . No God that is alive will rely on a failure like you to do anything for it. It will do whatever it wants by itself.

KingEbukasBlog:
Jesus Christ

Was a Jew that died over 2000 years ago. I said NO God that lives outside your head and imaginations will allow you to tell anybody anything about it.

KingEbukasBlog:
Caboom ! The obsession with the Christian God he claims does not exist keeps him coming back . The compulsive need to assure themselves God does not exist is apparent .

There is a living God that exist and it is from KingEbukasBlog mouth that we are hearing about such a God. No God that exist will rely on you to make its case for it ever. Only a God that lives inside your head. I've told you this a thousand times.

winner01:
I'm not desperate to let you or anybody know anything. I've never directed a post to you but to religious folks. You on the other hand constantly infest christian threads and then you claim we drew first blood. Your presence here is needless, its your desperation that makes you come back.

But you know, I'm cool with you proving me right.

Why do you love whining. Please tell your God that can do all things as alleged to come and block our accounts for trying to tell you guys that he doesn't exist.

winner01:
And you desperately need me to know all these why?

Oh, I know why

Just as you desperately need me to know that some God that lives and has plans for me bit has to depwnd on your to propagagte It's message . Just let the God do the talking himself please.

KingEbukasBlog:
Hitler ended the lives of close to 20 million people but somehow just somehow is better than the God that does not exist . Sounds like a logical comment to make

Learn how to read and comprehend. I said Hitler is a better person than the God you believe in. I didn't say your God exist. Just said you believe in him. Many people believe in many things that don't exist. Your God is one of them. In other words Hitler was a better person than the God you believe in as described in the pages of the books that tell his story. Your God only exist in your mind and on the pages of the bible that tell his story. He doesn't exist any where else

winner01:
Stop digressing. The church of God is the Church of God. As long as you teach from scriptures and not forged extrabiblical references.

Isn't it a shame that you can't tell us the location of this church, it's doctrine and who it's members are? Every christians sect use the bible. Many christians disagree with each other constantly here. They all use the bible to promote and support their positions.

Why would anyone go through the pain of writing the marian apparition, the secet of the saints, the book of mormon etc. There really is something about christianity that evil people sought to suppress.

Those that claim to have seen Mary appear to them are numerous. They are no different from the people whose claimed to have been to heave and came back. They are also no different from Joseph Smith who claimed am angel Maroni appeared to him. Or the people like John who wrote the book of revelations. It just shows that people can create stories and promote their ideas. There is nothing about christianity that makes other sects within it to suppress it. Catholics remain christians whether you like it or not. They might not share some doctrines and theology with you but they remain the biggestchristian sect. Even your own church is a false church according to another christian sect. It's just nothing but confusion galore. You can keep believing that some imaginary force is out to destroy your religion but that is false. When you guys agree on what christianity is amongst yourselves and stop disagreeing then you can come and I'll take you seriously.

When you can give 3 examples each of people who died and saw joseph smith and mary caring for God in heaven respectively out of the billions of humans that have lived. Then ill take you seriously.

I have done that but you inssited that I should provide video evidence as if you have any video evidence of your God doing anything that was written inside the bible. Can you provide video evidence of your God creating the earth as opposed to the Hindu God, so that we will know for sure that he created the earth and not the Hindu God.

winner01:
The true church is the church of God. You are asking me about religion, i dont do religion.

I do not provide evidence for you or anyone, I did not invite you to this thread, Your desperation brought you here.

Give just 3 videos of people who saw joseph smith and mary caring for God. Either living or dead. Just 3 each.

Deduct 6 from the number of humans that have ever lived, you got a whole lotta sample frame man.

You know the truth. Now i know why some people are called hardened criminals.

I know which truth? You haven't been able to convince your other fellow christians that belong to other sects about what you believe in yet you are still talking about truth. By the way which is the church of God and where is it located? In which part of Nigeria is it located? Who are it's members and what are their doctrines? Keep deceiving yourself .

winner01:
You type as though you are going through some sort of pain. I couldnt help but notice. I agree that there are different sects that call themselves the true christians but i'm sure you've heard of atheist mega churches. You can try to rationalize why sworn atheists would build churches. To suppress the truth of course.
It is easier to cause confusion amongst people by joining them or pretending to be like them than by facing them directly.
The existence of different arms of christianity does not disprove the authenticity of christianity but further proves that there is something special about it. You keep proving that to me to. I must say thank you to you and others, y'all help to keep the fire in me burning with the way y'all persuade me not to believe in God with you.

If people say heaven is this or that, will 10 humans taken to different parts of the earth have the same story to tell about earth? Be objective my friend.

And this is not the evidence that i meant, i meant the evidence that points to an Intelligent designer. You sure know how to direct arguments to a corner where you think you have some cheap knowledge.

Which is the true christian sect or denomination? Is it the Catholic Church? Is it the white garment church? Is it the seven days adventist? Is it the word of faith prosperity church? Is it your own local church? Which is the true church care to name it?

Why don't you allow this intelligent designer to provide evidence for people by it self? Why are you doing its work for it. I thought you claim he is able to do all things? You were asking for video evidence. Pls am waiting for you to provide video evidence of this your intelligent designer designing the earth?

winner01:
So much for a self-acclaimed intellectual . Well, The link alone will do. So get to work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uZ38qeO7LQ

Here is the videoof a Catholic priest that claimed he went to heaven.

winner01:
God can give anybody a second chance, seventhday adventist, mormon, atheist, anyone. Im more interested in their stories.

Post the videos of people who saw mohammed, buddha, zeus in heaven and also those who saw mary caring for God. If you use a fone, so what? How far is google from your fone?

Why are you so hardened?

I don't need to post videos of people seeing Allah, Mohammed or Buddha. Their religious theology might not give them room for that. Islam for example does not allow muslims to claim to have gone to heaven and met with Allah as such you can't see a muslim making that claim.

All IIA saying is that there are videos of different christians from various sects each claiming to have gone to heaven and seeing exactly what agrees with what their sect is teaching them. Mormons claim to go to heaven and meet Joseph Smith. Catholic priest coma to go to heaven to met Jesus and Mary. Deeper life lady climes she went to heaven and hell and saw the pope in the. Different christians all describing heaven very differently and each claming that Jesus gave them different messages. The bottom line is that they are lying. They just imagined things and that all. What difference does a video make? After all we have different videos of televangelist performing miracles until they were later exposed to be fake people. A person can sit down and make a video of himself talking about his visit to heaven. What difference does it make?

winner01:
Please can people go to the sites he posted. Especially the first and last one.

And please ask him to post 20 like he earlier said if they exist .

You dont have to sweat it before you find 100 true testimonies on youtube.

I don't know how to post videos on YouTube with my phone.

winner01:
You cant post 20 because they dont exist. Post their videos so we can see how comfortable they were, knowing they were lying.

Do I need to waste my time posting videos here? Am using a phone. Just go to youtube and type mormon lady goes to heaven . Also type catholic priest goes to heaven. Type seven day adventist goes to heaven. You'll see so many results . Do it and post the videos here.

So here are the endless confusing stories of people that claimed to have gone to heaven with very different description and tales of heaven. Each agreeing and aligning with their church doctrines.

1) Catholic priest aimed he want to heaven, purgatory and hell. In heaven he meet Jesus and Mary sitting on the throne.
http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Am-Christian-(roman-Catholic)/1587294

2) This deeper life woman claimed she also went to heaven and saw things that agreed with the deeper life Church. Her story is so pathetic that even the founder of the deeper life Church pastor Kumuyi had to disavow her claims. What she said is completely different from what the Catholic priest saw.

http://eternal-destinations..com.ng/2013/12/linda-ngaujah-revelation-of-heaven-and.html?m=1

3) This mormon lady claims to have visited heaven. She say things that agreed with the Mormon church. Joseph Smith she claims is in heaven.

http://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/lds/ci_15227681

He story th and description of heave and what shw claimed she saw is completely different from the other 2 I just posted. I can post like 20 but I don't have the time.

All what this shows is that people can sit down imagine things and write them down to promote what ever course they have in mind and nothing else. People tell lies all the time to promote their religion. After all the people that wrote the bible, Koran and the Hindu Verdes were all telling lies.