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So there is this all powerful, almighty God that can do all things who exist but is solely relying on image123 to explain it's mysterious ways to others in a convoluted , lame and ridiculous way. The bible is very clear on how prayers are supposed to work. Jesus promised his followers answered prayers many many times. He even stated that these are signs that will follow those who believe in him. Are there any signs following any christian today? Are christians living better, experiencing less harm or havoc compared to non christians in the world today? Are christians having it any easier than others? The answers is NO. Despite their claims of my father in heaven will guide me, help me , protect me and do things for me. No evidence to show that christians are better protected or helped more than non christians at all. We are all just groping in the dark and struggling on our own. As someone said the words of the bible have expired in the real world. Miracles are just make belief and illusions. Clear cut miracles do not exist. If they do we will not be having this conversation. If christianity is true you image123 will be going about healing amputees because Jesus PROMISED you that. He said as he is going back to heaven those of you that believe in him will do GREATER things than him. We were told in stories that he walked on water and was a great miracle worker that also healed amputees. If these stories are true then you should be doing what he promised you. These are just mythological stories. Do you believe that Prophet Mohammed divided the moon into two halves? Why or why not? You believe the Jesus stories and refuse to believe the Mohammed one simply because you were born into and indoctrinated with the Jesus stories over the Mohammed stories. If you were born in India you would have been a Hindu and believe in very different stores that talk and explain Indian myths, miracles and legands The fact is these stories are simply false and they worry you so much that is why you came up with a thread to try to explain them away by saying God works in mysterious ways and that his ways are not our ways. If your God works in mysterious ways and we can never understand him, then why should we have anything to do with something we can never understand? If your God exist as you claim he will never rely on a person like you to explain him to anybody . Just read the replies of this thread and see how terrible your explanation has failed. Only a non existent God that lives in your head will rely on you to explain him to others. A God that truly exist will do that himself.

chigoizie7:
They will still be in business, but where do u think they get their fx?

Ur guess is as good as mine.

Same way commercial banks have agents all over the place that sells "mint" to Nigerians. Mints that was meant to be given for free in the banks. How many times have u recieved mint from the bank or tru d ATM? Or does it mean CBN does not recall old currency to replace with mint and supply to banks for general purpose?

That is the same way they deal with black marketers with regards to fx. They need more profits.

Thanks for the information. Please will the official rate once announced and black market rate differ much or will there be a convergence?

chigoizie7:
Commercial banks inclussive.

Thanks. But does this new policy put the black marketers out of business if fully implemented or will they still be in business?

chigoizie7:
Competition fire.

Those are done in a place where there are strict law and order.

Since the FGN can not regulate these markets.

The marketers will just form a secret union and fix the prices to suit them so as to make soo much profit and the govt can do nothing about it.

Which marketers are you talking about pls. Black marketers or what?

GooseBaba:
@ bolded..... Exactly the "jewish god"... fuvk Yahweh and his dead son.

Meanwhile, you subject your mind to a narrative that the supreme diety has a chosen people. And you're eager to make excuses on the barbarism documented in the bible, and the destructive influence man has carried out in its name.

Your mind has been tampered with, that's why you would proclaim a jewish god above your ancestoral God.

For crying out loud. You proclaim to have a relationship with a 2000 yrs old dead man, whose promise of bliss is in the afterlife. That's why your evidence is your personal belief.

Epic.

KingEbukaNaija:
@ Dalaman

Is there any fact that precludes God's existence ? Even if you chose to see it as an idea ?

You haven't demonstrated that any God exist in reality. You have only claimed that a God who happens to be a man made idea exist. Unless you can objectively demonstrate the existence of God like the existence of the sun you have no business talking about the existence of the God idea to me.

KingEbukaNaija:
The same way you can't show me how the Big Bang took place or how lizards transformed to man but claim there are methods to ascertain such events did take place - exhibition of faith - applies to me to .

Can you show me where I've advocated for the big bang or transformation of lizards to men?

Such science myths are same with 'I believe by faith ' . Why are you now feigning ignorance? Whatever made you agree or certain that God does not exist is your exhibition of faith , same with me . BOTH OF US SHOW FAITH

You are embarrassed by this and trying so hard to make it seem like it's not what it is

I do not believe in the big bang or evolution as factual theories of how the universe came about. I believe they are plausible explanations. You on the other hand just accept the mythology and fiction of some unknown Jewish men that lived long ago as the fact of how the universe originated because they claimed some elusive God idea they created said so.

KingEbukaNaija:
Still waiting for any evidence that precludes the existence of an eternal conscious creator bro .

Preclude = make impossible

Your definition of God keeps changing. God is your default postition for "I don't know ". Can you show me this external conscious in action anywhere? How can it be tested and know objectively? I don't want to hear this your silly "I believe by faith " talk.

KingEbukaNaija:
Claiming there is no conscious eternal being or God is also a farce because there is no evidence against His existence . Stop making the latter statement , it's nonsense as far as you to brains to create , will to act or refuse , choices to make , cognition etc you are somewhat a god . You don't need to have knowledge of the universe above another 's ken to be identified as a god .

To be succinct, All humans are gods .

When will this my brother recieve sense na?

KingEbukaNaija:
Meeks is the president of USA not Obama - does this claim need to be proven ? Just show the person that Obama is president that alone refutes his claim . That's what I want the atheist to do , show me that the universe needs no creator with cogent proof not assumptions . You'll tell me how every constituent derived the propensity for its functionality of course . E.g If protons are protons , how did they derive that property to to be protons not neutrons then it spreads out to energy , space , matter etc

How did your God create phtons? How did he create neutrons? How did your God create anything? Stop asking questions you have no answer for. Your only answer is that you believe through faith that God did it without any explanation. That is actually silly. Don't expect any body to provide you with answers when you haven't provided any except telling people that you believe through faith.

KingEbukaNaija:
Back what up ? Experience it yourself and make your own conclusion . Even God himself was on earth and people were not convinced at all . So I'm not sure what I'll tell you To Make you believe . One question : how did the early church grow despite persecution from the Gentiles ?

Where is the video recording of this God on earth and people not believing in him? Muslims claim the words of Allah himself exist on earth in the form of the Koran yet many disbelieve(Including you). Why are you guys always spewing gibberish? The creator of the universe came to planet earth as a human being to dwell in a tiny nation of Israel without visiting the whole earth. Does that even make sense to you. If we call you delude , you'll feel offended.

KingEbukaNaija:
I believe the bible by faith bro . This is not new now

Muslims, Hindus, Taoist, Buddhist, etc all belive their religious scriptures by faith. Believing by faith means nothing. It simply means you believe because you just want it to be true. Faith is not a virtue, so stop playing the faith card.

KingEbukaNaija:
you have made a claim here , an outlandish one . Knowkedge can be obtained through experience and observation . For someone like Christ to possess such ineffable knowledge of the universe , how to tweak nature itself - calming the storm , raising the dead , healing the sick and resurrection -he must be a witness to its creation or creator .

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Please provide the video recording of Jesus doing all these things you are alleging or accept that you are lying. What are we to do with the stories written about Jesus doing wonders about 40-70 years after he died by people who never met him while he was alive ? Hope you know that the gospels were written 40-70 years after Jesus died by unknown christians who had never met Jesus in person.

Elohim1:
WHAT OF THOSE YORUBAS THAT USE TO STOP RAIN IF THEY WANNA DO CEREMONY OR BUILD HOUSE??

Until they start moving their cars without fuel when there is fuel scarcity, you shouldn't expect anybody to believe such trash.

KingEbukasBlog:
Why would he need to lie . because you don't understand or explain sth , you are now obdurate that it does not exist and accuse someone of lying - your close mindedness is pathetic

Why won't he lie. He might want you to believe he has some strong babalawo that has his back. We know how people fear and revere those that claim they have the backing of strong juju men. If incantations can cure deadly snake bites then they should be able to build houses simple. So long as incantations can not build houses and bridges then they remain the lie that they are period. I am sick and tired of you guys and your dem say them say thrash. Use your incantations and juju to do something tangible let's see. Use juju to build a house from thin air and shut all of us up. Stop promoting lies and superstition.

KingEbukasBlog:
Hian ... It's like asking Christians to pray so that bridges would be constructed and houses built on their own . Some people use charms to cure sicknesses - my room mate's snake bite was taken care of by mere incantations by a herbalist , according to him .

If incantations can cure snake bites then they should be able to build houses and bridges. Your roommate was telling lies, simple.

Juju is nothing but a mythical and superstitious belief we invented as Africans to deceive and delude ourselves. If juju works then why can't we use it to cure cancer, Ebola and lass fever? Why are the rich among us travelling abroad for better medical treatment if juju works? Why won't they when ignorant and foolish doctors are attributing diseases to juju in Nigeria. Why can't we usejuju to win wars? Why is Boko Haram terrorizing us? Why is the Nigerian military not using juju to conquer them but instead relying on guns, warplanes are other western arms?
Why is our economy in shambles? Any juju theory on how to solve economic problems? Why won't Africa be backwards and a cesspool when we believe in mythology, superstition and madness as facts?

analice107:
Is it that you deny these things or they don't happen where you come from?
when i was a kid, there were these Jaz men who come to entertain us with magic, afterwards sell their wares. A man will use this knife Mae Suya uses to slice through their stomach, stick it into their eyes, nothing happens. A man will lie down and a plank will be place on him, a car will drive through him, nothing will happen to him, i have seen a man who lifted a car with his teeth off the ground. he stood erect with the car by his teeth.
An Hausa man came to my village, he never went into the River, How he did it, no one knows till this day, but he tied a robe to a stick by the bank of the river and spiritually tied an Hippopotamus and pulled it to the river bank and it was killed. He never stepped inside the water.
I have seen where a man took an empty giant Milo Can , opened it for us to see it was empty, closed it, shook it and open it again, steaming hot Jellof rice filled the Can, he scoped it out and people ate it to prove it was indeed rice.Its either you are lying or you are living in denial.

You are too close minded and ignorant. Please watch the secrets of magic revealed on YouTube and see how all these tricks and more are revealed. World famous Magicans like David Copperfield, Richard Angel and Randi have all stated that there is nothing like the supernatural when it comes to magic. It's all an illusion. These men do things on camera that no juju mam in your village can ever do. But they still say it's all tricks. Why then should any body believe you a gullible spectator?

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Ayomikun37:
The fact that you could go all the way copying and pasting these heap of bullocks here goes to show how much you seek attention... I wonder what this silly thread hopes to achieve... I expect you to be all over the place, preaching the "good news", not junketing to such silly activities... Did you forget the great commission? Come off this shit and do what the Lord commanded...

Fatality.

Women are promised unspecified goodies according to my muslim friend here. He said they will be reunited with their earthly husbands. I asked about those that were unmarried. He said the Quran only promised them goodies but didn't specify.

KingEbukasBlog:
There are no myths in the bible . . Atheists will still mock people who believe in traditional gods . So it does not matter anyway .

What race was Adam? You still haven't answered oo. Did he speak Hebrew?

KingEbukasBlog:
Well , can you provide evidence that refutes this ?

Pictures and videos inside

There were people living in places like China and India more than 7 thousand years ago. So it is actually foolish to believe in some mythology the Jews wrote down some 3 thousands years ago claiming that languages came about because some imaginary God was afraid of people building a great tower.

Edelweiss44:
No sir! God does not only show Himself to people only when they are dead. Many people have had personal encounters with God and they changed their ways afterwards. But the most important factor that points to the existence of God is creation. Look at the intelligent design behind creation and you will realise creation is too complex and intelligently designed to have been a product of chaos like the big bang.

The complexity in creation proves that there is no God but Allah. Prove otherwise.

KingEbukasBlog:
You totally missed the point . I believe through faith , the atheists feel faith is illogical . Dalaman did not witness the early man developing languages or races evolving but he is certain the Tower of Babel is a myth . So its either he exhibits faith like I do or if he does not then he should provide evidence of his claims .

The purpose of the Tower of Babel event was to diversify humanity .



This is not really relevant to this discourse ,but I've noticed that you are erudite in this subject - language and communication . We have seen you



Diversification bro .

So diversification in the human race began about 4500 years ago (The date of the alleged tower of Babel)? Are you mad? . Brother stop swallowing Hebrew mythology hook line and sinker.

KingEbukasBlog:
Dalaman can you provide any evidence - video or pictures - that showed the evolving early man developing gibberish as a language that makes sense to them ? Or are you going to inundate me with assumptions as usual ?

If the English language evolved from Anglo and Saxon language , which language did the latter evolve from ?

I think you should seek answers using the Internet . Learn about what happened at the Tower of Babel , you will be amazed . The bible just gave us a sort of an encapsulation of what happened .

I don't know which language the latter evolved from but we have evidence that languages evolved over time, just like writing and numbers. The tower of babel myth is the Jewish people's explanation of how languages evolved, it has nothing to do with reality.I just find it funny that you as an African, is hell bent of accepting the mythology and legends of the ancient Hebrews. So an ancient and legendary man whom the Hebrew invented was the first man right? Why not accept that Oduduwa was the first man through faith? If I call you deluded you will start speaking big big grammer.

KingEbukasBlog:
Actually the event at the Tower of Babel was a spiritual activity which had effects on biological bodies . I dont want to go deep into what actually happened at the Tower of Babel .

You are not saying anything. It's high time you guys stopped hiding behind this spiritual mumbo jumbo to get away with things. I have seen Christians argue with each other and use the spiritual card to run away and evade questions. They are always like. You need spiritual discernment.Which spiritual discernment are you talking about I keep asking them. Since you understand the spirit why don't you explain to the person using your spritual understanding? They never give a good answer. Here is the point. The tower of bable never happened. All Languages evolved over time and were created by humans just like writing and counting. The English language you speak evolved from the Anglo and Saxon language. It wasn't formed during any tower of bable myth that never happened.