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KingEbukasBlog:
I should also explain away David and Goliath story , Jacob and his battle with an Angel story , Noah and the Ark story etc .

Like we christians haven't been elucidating biblical stories - breaking the shackles of misconceptions that enslaved your minds

And you all have had one single explaination for all the biblical stories? Just the other day we discussed a topic and two christians came up with two very different explanations of the same story. Take the young earth creationists and the old earth creationist that all use the bible don't they? Take the Noah's flood too, some say it's an allegory, others say it's a local flood and many insist it's a global flood. When you are done breaking your mind that has been enslaved with ancient Jewish and Roman mythology and fiction you can let me know.

winner01:
I think he has compelling evidence that God does not exist, but for some reason cant show anyone.

Do you have any God apart from those that wrote the bible? Your God are the dead people that wrote the bible.

KingEbukasBlog:
Bible :1 + 1 = 2

Me : 0.5 + 0.5 + 0.5 + 0.5 = 2

Dalaman : You as a person have refused to accept it

Me :

You know this is a lie. You have always given your own opinion and stated that why you feel is actually what the bible is supposed to say with regards to creation. Why is it that you have refused to explain away the story about the crucifixion of Jesus on the cross but chose to explain away and reinterpret the story of creation? The fact that you chose to explain away the story of creation and not the crucifixion story says it all.

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol ... Dalaman would turn a blind eye to this . He claims he is so sure that God did not create the universe

The God of the bible and Allah of the Koran for example did not create the universe because these are man made entities. After all we have how the God of the bible said he created the universe, a mythical creation account you as a person have refused to accept. What then are you talking about?

KingEbukasBlog:
I should start looking for someone from my friend's village miles away - from the other side of Nigeria - to please you ?

You must be crazy .

I read articles on the challenge and its a myth actually .


Dalaman : Can you prove the supernatural

Me : A magician made a pin to appear from nowhere

Dalaman : You are deluded , that is a trick not magic . There is no such thing as magic . YOU HAVE BEEN TRICKED

Me : But scientists say the universe came from nothing .

Dalaman : ....

Me : Sorry Dalaman , YOU HAVE BEEN TRICKED

Dalaman : Damn , I didnt think of that

You aren't going to do it to please me, you'll do it because you stand to win 1 million dollars which is about 280 million naira.

winner01:
Messi scored a wonderful solo goal against getafe, mikel tried to demonstrate the same feat but lacks the capacity.
A very "open-minded" person like you would call messi's ddmonstration false because mikel tried it and fail.

Never you use the word "open-mindedness" ever again.

Messi is on video displaying his abilities in front of millions. Bring your so called vodoo man that can cure deadly snake venom using incantations alone or admit that you are telling lies. There is one million dollars to be won.

winner01:
Why not take up the challenge and demonstrate it, since you believe something came from nothing.
You are a very sick and rigid individual for calling peoples experiences false.
You could as well have expected me to video my friend struggling to breath, so i can show him later.
You need help.

You are making false claims. Incantations alone can not cure any body from a deadly snake bite. It has been demonstrated to be false. I will post the video later. If you have any video to support its veracity just post it already.

KingEbukasBlog:
Don't these 'scientists' that can 'prove' nothingness can bring forth something want to win a million dollars ?

It would go a long way in funding their research of the non living bringing forth life

I should have known you have nothing. You claimed to know someone that uses incantations to cure deadly snake bites. I want you to take the person to where he will perform the same feat and win a million dollars. Instead of hastily embracing the challenge you are trying to run away from it.

KingEbukasBlog:
Does the challenge include making nothing bring forth something , I hope 'scientists' applied

Take anybody you know that can prove the existence of the supernatural. You can take that your snake man there let him use his incantations to cure deadly snake bites and win a million dollars. Don't you wanna win a million dollars?

KingEbukasBlog:
Please stop calling someone's name with a challenge he put up . He simply wants to make more money and learn new tricks from fellow tricksters and improve on them . There is entertainment and there is real life . You are really gullible

Its an open challenge. You can contact any vodoo man you know in naija and take up the challenge.

KingEbukasBlog:
Have you watched iosMagic on youtube . HIs tricks with his iPad are insane !!!


My roommate was bitten by a snake in his village . He was rushed to a native doctor . The native doctor ONLY used incantations and the poison was just pouring out from the wound .

Can you explain the trick that was employed , so many have been killed through snake bites while some just use special tricks through spoken words to get the poison out .Your explanation can help lots of people . They need to know this trick

These story is completely false. Remember the greatest snake bite healers using incantations are Indian gurus. I will post a video where a renowned Indian magician who claims to use incantation and voodoo to cure people of their snake bites failed when asked to perform his trick in broad day light. He had to confess that he had no such powers. I will post the video when I get on my laptop. And I will also wait for you to post your own video not words of mouth.

KingEbukasBlog:
In addition to winner01's post . Even the government 'clean up' their trails by telling the public what they want them to believe WITH 'PROOF' . If you have this closed mind you can fooled by anything curled up as PROOF.

These guys are committed to finding the truth about supernatural ocurrance. They are magicians that have spent years leaving people astonished with their tricks. Darren Brown for example tells people that he only uses tricks when performing but some the people still disbelieve. Watch his videos On YouTube. James Randi has dropped 1 million dollars for any body that can prove that the supernatural is real under a controlled environment. The money is still there all those that went and tried all failed, their tricks were exposed. I'll rather believe those that are famous and have made millions of dollars performing magic over what ever you have to say about magic.

winner01:
JuJu is actually knowledge. Knowledge of the supernatural.
Ive seen things in my life that just dosent add up rationally. Ive heard unexplained voices. Ive practically felt the presence of fear.
All these Mostly in villages where i had programs.
And so its very odd to me when someone denies the presence of the supernatural.

None of these above explanations did it for me. Its difficult to imagine that such boys are learned in physics and mathematics coupled with so much precision.
That hole seems too small for a human to put and withdraw legs at will.

That is why you will keep remaining in the dark. The greatest Magicians in the world like James Randi, Darren Brown, David Copperfield, Chris AngEl have come out and stated that there is no supernatural force used in magic to their knowledge. They perform magic tricks that no African magician I know can perform. They levitate in the air, stay inside ice for 24 hours, walk on water, dissappear, divide people into two equal half, do many scary stuffs. James Randi has a million dollar challanged for any one that has supernatural abilities to go display it and win under a controlled environment. Many people with so called supernatural abilities attempted but they all failed. The tricks they used were all exposed. I rather believe the words of some of the world renowned magicians that have made millions of dollars and fame performing magic than the words of a gullible sheeple like you that has no idea of how tricks are used to beguile the public.

winner01:
When you read, make use of your brains.

Give scientific findings that contradict the scriptures rather than asking what findings support the scriptures.
Im far beyond your pranks.

Sir William Herschel:
"All human discoveries seem to be made only for the purpose of confirming more & more strongly the truth contained in the Sacred Scriptures".

No valid discovery contradicts the scriptures, maybe only unfounded assumptions.

I have already told stated many. Just one example is enough. It is genetically impossible for all humans to have decended from one man and one woman. It is scientifically impossible. Only in mythology and fiction is that possible. Provide the genetic evidence to support the biblical claim that all humans decended from one man and one woman. Stop appealing to shoody christian apologist that don't knowork anything apart from how to tell lies. There is no truth contain in the bible as such. Unless if you and your apologist that are always fast to throw the bible away with the claim that most of its mythology are allegory when confronted with stuffs that obviously do not make sense believe that Jewish mythology and fiction is scientific fact.

KingEbukasBlog:
thanks gatiano for this contribution . Are there books you read or youtube videos you watch ? I need more of this different type of knowledge


Thanks Johnydon22 and dalaman too

You can watch secret of magic revealed on YouTube. There are many episodes. It reveals a lot of tricks magicians use. You can also watch Darren Brown 's videos. He is one of the greatest magician in the UK. He goes deeper revealing more complicated magic tricks. James Randi as well.

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol . But you dont refute Ifeness conspiracy bullshit . Ride on oo

Sukkot nko ? Bro sukkot care to contribute ?

Both of them are on the same page. They believe in martians and other UFO conspiracies brouhaha.

KingEbukasBlog:
gatiano has more interesting stuff to say .

Not assumptions like electric motors and forcing a human being inside a small hole . Though electric motors would be a smart trick that's if they'd fit the power inside the calabash

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Gatiano is on another level. I don't pay attention to anything he says. He's a conspiracy theorist.

johnydon22:
Lol... its neither science or anything preternatural, just a trick...

Notice the hole inside was pulsating? suggesting that someone was in a compartment above it..

the structure is big enough to hold a human above the hole and then when the structure it made to stand, the person emerges from the hole (more like letting the legs down, so as to carry the structure) and the masqurade starts moving..

quite a neat trick

End of discussion. KingEbukasBlog please just call it a day.

winner01:
Science and Religion are not on different paths, its atheists that make it look as such.
Atheists employ science to remain valid when in reality, science has nothing to offer atheism.

No scientific findings discredits the Bible, instead it confirms the truths in the Bible.

Science make it difficult not to believe in God. An example is the scientist i referred to in this thread.
Try harder, science and atheism arnt synonymous.

The way you guys tell lies with confidence, which scientific fact for example supports the claim that all humans descended from one man and one woman? I will like to see it. The genetic evidence backing such claim. Which scientific fact supports he idea that the earth was in existence before the sun and stars? Where can it be found? The scientific fact that supports the claim that plants were spoken into existence using the Hebrew language can be found where?

I just watched the video, it's a simple trick. The space in-between is enough for a person to hurl up in there. Please go to YouTube and watch the secrets of magicians revealed, you will see how tricks like these are explained by the magician. Better tricks than these have been explain on You-tube.

Watch this Indian Magic rope trick. It is pure tricks, but to people like you it is a supernatural occurrence.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfDX-a7MQPM

KingEbukasBlog:
cc : dalaman ... you are good physicist ... care to explain ?

Explain what? No video has been posted there

KingEbukasBlog:
You'll be woken up for sure LITERALLY

According to the fiction you were indoctrinated with, right?

winner01:
Yawns!!!
Wake me up when you come up with something different.

Wake me up when this God idea of yours decides to do things for himself instead of allowing failures and incompetent people like you to propagate his conflicting messages.

winner01:
If you do not desperately need me to share your worldview as you have falsely claimed, then look for an atheist section to share your crap.
This is a religion section.

I have already passe my message, nairaland does not belong to you, as such you can not dictate or tell others what to do here, if you don't like what is going on then go create your own forum.

Okay, ive heard the same bull from many other people.
Indirectly, you were created by nothing.
Great.

Again, your own making.

Accepted.
I suggest you keep mute till you can determine exactly what you believe

I won't.

Christians are people like Christ, we know the kind of life christ lived. And we try to be like Him.

Christ is the same as God, we also know what the people that conjured up the idea wrote about the God in the bible.

Any meaning you read to this is welcome and should be kept inside you.
But to you "allah is the supreme", why do you speak so much about Christ.
Its clear for people to see who you are really combating.

My point was to show you that any body can make up anything, proving it is the main issue here. The people that made up the God idea you subscribe to are not the only ones that could make such ideas up, others have done it as well.

winner01:
Chai, you nor get new argument

Okay, and you need me desperately to share your worldview why?

I don't need you to share my world view, I just want you to stop deluding your self into believing that because you were indoctrinated with the mythology and fiction, you know some exclusive and only truth that others that hav;t been indoctrinated with your own mythology or have grown out of it do not posses.

You seem so sure about the Supreme, i thought you claimed "Allah is the supreme",, i expected you to talk about the quran.
Seems you know the one and only Supreme

just trying to show you that the supreme being is a human idea and conception, others have conjured up their own just as the men tht created the one you were indoctrinated with conjured it up.

Okay you have said this several times and im tired of giving you the same replies.

Everything You jumped into existence from nothing. You happy now?

Everything just jumped into existence is your own making, I have never made such claim any where, I have never made any claim with regards to creation. I do not know, neither do you or your Gods that wrote the bible.

Yawns!!!
Change the bolded to catholicism.

Catholics are not christians?

Christians [Christ-like], peoole who want to be like Christ. And Im sure you know the kind of life Christ lived.

Christ is God, christlike means God like, read the bible and see how this God of yours supposedly acts worse than a terrorist.

Quit repeating the same damn stale thing over and over again in every argument, think about new ways to combat christianity. Thats it. Get to work.

I am not combating christianity, joint stating the facts as we all know.

moffymichael:
Excuse me Man! you ought to uderstand that there is A Single SOURCE from which all other known and unknown Things originates. Be it the gods, humans, spirits and watever things existing, has existed or will soon exist all originated from a single SOURCE. Dat single source is what we refer to as "God". now, dont get it twisted, dier is difference btw "God" and "gods". The "God" is d supreme being; he is dat single source from which all other things exist.

Why should I believe your words? prove it

winner01:
I do not need to prove anything to you or anybody, it will only make you feel relevant, proofs are smiling at you left, right and centre.

If you had any you would have provided it very long ago, the fact that you haven't shows that you are only following the wishful thoughts, ideas and imaginations invented by the ancient men. Your God are the writers of the bible, without which you can do nothing.

Ancient men that imagined that the earth was suspended in space long before it was scientifically validated.
okay, but Why do the writings of such men bother you so much? I thought you just asserted that "Allah is the creator".

The ancient men that said the earth was in existence before the sun and stars, eh? Or is it the same ancient men that claimed that the whole of humanity descended from one Jewish man and one Jewish woman?

The Creator that bothers your life so much to an extent that you cant stop talking about Him or encouraging other people not to follow Him is the only Supreme Being.

The creator that only exists in your head, that is why you always try to speak for it, convert people to it, explain its so called message on it;s behalf, do everything for it, you worship an alleged creator that can not even say hi to anybody. You should hide in shame, this imaginary creator of ours are the writers of the bible and your various pastors who promote and constantly explain away this idea.

“The current intellectual assault on God in Europe and North America is in fact a specific attack on Christianity – the faith
that stubbornly persists in the morality, laws, and government of the major Western countries. . . .The God they fight is the
Christian God, because He is their own God. . . .God is the leftists’ chief rival. Christian belief, by subjecting all men to divine authority and by asserting in the words ‘My kingdom is not of this world’ that the ideal society does not exist in this life, is the most coherent and potent obstacle to secular
utopianism. . . . the Bible angers and frustrates those who believe that the pursuit of a perfect society justifies the quest
for absolute power.”- Peter Hitchens

Which bible, the one that is filled with endless wars, genocide and barbarism like slavery? When Europe was under the church they referred to it as the dark age, the west only started making progress when they embraced secularism. The history of christianity is still there for all to read, if not for secularism, slavery would still have been in existence, remember the advocates where staunch christians who used he bible as justification for slavery. The west has thrown the bible away and they are much better for it. Instead of feeling bitter, just tell this imaginary God of yours to say hi first and stop relying on failures like you to propagate this contradictory messages of his because you all have failed.

malvisguy212:
I was not born into Christianity. I was born into muslims family. So all what you wrote here is of no use.

There are many Christians that have converted to Islam, so you also have no point. But the fact remains that over 97% of the adherents of any religion were born into it.

winner01:
Thats your lame excuse, the existence of thousands of other gods.
You miss, thats a silly excuse to disregard the existence of the Supreme.


Try other excuses.

Can you prove to me that there exist only one supreme being that created the universe, or are you going to start pointing to the writings of some ancient men that wrote down stuffs they imagined about some being they manufactured in their head? Prove that obly one supremee being exist or shut up.

winner01:
You are enough proof of a Creator.

And the creator is Allah.

johnydon22:
Naaah its just something a nairalander opened on whatsapp..

Menesheh invited me to it and we have many people there including hahn

Ok, thanks for the invitation. will notify you when am ready to join.

johnydon22:
Alright my boss.. Back to default... You wanna join our whatsapp group?

Nice one bro, Whatsapp group? What is it about? I was mentioned about joining the a group of Nigerian atheist. Is that the group?