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GooseBaba:
I was involved in a bus accident sometime in the 97.. Close to ikeja underbridge around 9pm.. Driver!! Driver..!! Gboosa...!!! Before you know one woman begin shouting jesus jesus... One Bros from the back of the bus just provoke for the woman.. Madam where you pass see jesus..!! Abeg come down make i see road, nonsense..!!!

Calling the name of Jesus during an accident can never save your life. I have witnessed it first hand.

Jeromejnr:
Well firstly I can't describe God for u mehn. I didn't see His clear features. I don't know how to explain DAT to u because it a spiritual reality and they are hard to explain. Its like when ur looking at someone through a transparent shower curtain, u can see the form but not really d details.

And secondly me telling u d encounter will not change u at all. Its God word and His Spirit that changes ppl. Because I know u will still come up with theories of arguments.

Just state what you saw or what he told you. Did he speak to you? Did you speak back? You claimed you had an encounter with God, Why then are you so quick to push it off to the spirit relm where it will be outside of any meaningfull scrutiny?

Accidents happen so fast. In split seconds sometimes. I was once involved in an accident along Lokoja Abuja road some years ago. It was fatal because some people lost their lives. It happened so fast, I couldn't even shout Jesus because I was still a believer then. Glad you are OK.

Jeromejnr:
He actually manifested Himself to me on a particular night. Because my heart sought for God constantly. I was tired of many things.

Dats y I said if u seek Him u will find Him.

Describe what God looked like in details and what transpired between the two of you.

Belief has it's role. It helps sometimes and does damage as well.

Joshthefirst:
No. God has mercy on those who rely on his mercy. Are you even trying to understand my words at all or have you closed your mind in dogma? Do you think its religion that saves?

There's no salvation in religion. No mercy either. Look upon the average man and you see a man who thinks his good in life is what will get him on a soft pedestal with God. No. His sin has condemned him already. But Gods great love and mercy and salvation is revealed through the sacrifice of the MAN Jesus. Godbis willing to save all those who trust in his salvation, his Jesus. No one else has or will be eligible to lay down his life as a sacrifice for sin that many of us may obtain Gods favor and love.

You keep talking as if only one concept of God exist in the world. What is sin to you and the God you believe in isn't sin to another God. While your religion has no salvation in it other religions promise salvation to people as long as they follow their laid down creeds. Both you and them only have belief to support your assertions and nothing else. The bottom line whether you accept it or not is that only those that accept your religious beliefs will be saved, those that don't will perish which is exactly my point.

Plaetton, Notice how we speak about God now. We aren't even debating his existence anymore. That's self evident. You only seek a god to satisfy your tastes and whims. Unfortunately God will not be made in anyone's image. You must conform to the creator, not the other way around (I'm sure you'd be disappointed if you found a creator who would conform to you, belittling if you ask me). As for you, until you find a desirable god for yourself, you'll rather believe you're the aftermath of a cosmic accident. Quite unfortunate.

How is God self evident? All the different Gods are self evident to those who believe in them. Even the Hindu Gods are all self evident.

Joshthefirst:
doing good doesn't get you to heaven. Because you still do bad. Imperfection is in all of us. But God has a remedy through his mercy...I'm sure you know the rest of the story

Meaning God only has mercy on those that believe in the christian religion and not the muslim , hindu or buddist religion.

Joshthefirst:
Good for you. Keep away from religion. But finds Gods love and salvation while you're at it. Don't confuse one for another.

Nope. Its not unbelief that brings condemnation. You've got it all wrong.

People are already condemned because of the wrong things they do. Wrong doing brings condemnation, not wrong believing.

Are muslims and hindus saved according to christianity?

plaetton:
No sir.

Consider for example. An incident last year, infact several incidents over the years, where people , always mostly women and children, were trampled to death during night time religious crusades on a weekday.
Then as usual, no one takes responsibility, no one asks questions, no one is compensated, all because it is religion.

Aside from the anger and sadness for the loss of life, the lack of responsibility , remorse and compensation, any rational person, irrespective of religious orientation, should question why a group of people would deprive themselves and their toddlers and schoo aged children badly needed sleep to come out in a weeknight to seek promises of blessing and personal miracles, and in the process lose their lives.

Every rational person should ask what type of system that engenders this common recourse to magic and miracles to face existential problems, and who profits from it ?

This is what we rant here. It is the least that we can all do.

He claims he doesn't believe in any God, yet spends most of his time berating those that share his unbelief in any God. Tell me if he isn't out of his mind

sinequanon:
Why do folks think that they are SO IMPORTANT?

Nobody HAS to defend or prove anything.

Esiri111:
IF you don't believe in GOD. Then Disprove Cause and EFFECT.

well I have more important things to do than arguing with people who cannot defend their disbelief.

The universe might have a cause that is mindless. You don't know. Insisting that the cause of the universe is a singular being that has a mind remains an assumption. You have to provide irrevocable evidence for that for people like me to take your assumptions seriously.

Redlyn:
That article is just rife with the typical brainwashed myopic view of a limited "christian".

That article judges a person who has committed no crime, no evil, no wrong except to demand extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claims with words like "arrogant", "fool", "rebellious", "immoral", "corrupt", "abominable", "hopeless" etc etc and then claim to be a "christian".

This is precisely why religion is poison and I will keep me and mine clear away from it.

This is the only way religion thrives by condemning and demonizing those who do not believe. An honest and good hindu, muslim, taosit etc can never be considered good in the eyes of the christian, same was a good an honest and good Jew can never be considered good in the eyes of a muslim. You can only be good in the real sense of the word when you accept their religious position else deep down you are deserving of punishment for your unbelief, unbelief in mythical stories that have no evidence to support them.

Islam and fascism are the same thing.

lastmessenger:
I am personally convinced that Christianity is not a religion like we have Islam or budhism. Christianity is more like a system of life that is controlled by the almighty powerful God. What am I trying to say? My point is that some people believe in Christ even when they don't realise it. The spirit of Christ acts on everyone and gives us the opportunity to become like Christ. Men like bill gate as you mentioned above have responded to the Spirit of Christ and that is why he is doing what he is doing. I beg to say that bill gate will not go to hell as most professing Christians think.
There is something behind the action of any good man that you see and that thing is what I referred to as the spirit of Christ. People don't just wake up to do good things. Love poured into the believing heart by the spirit of Christ is what motivates them and the bible let us know that God is love.
Let me also that some people who call themselves Christians will not be saved because in their hearts they are far away from God. They only worship God with their lips.

muafrika:
You've been too quiet dalaman.

Whats cooking?

I have been busy. I login, but I mostly observe.

Emmalot121:
Jesus healed blind men with ease, doesn't this attest to the power of God?

According to a story Jesus healed blind men with ease, the same Jesus also promised those of you that believe in him the ability to do greater works than him. Do you believe in Jesus? Can you heal a blind man? You still have't told us how God created the human eyes and made images to be formed at the back of the retina.

Emmalot121. can you give us a detailed explanation of how God created the human eyes? The processes, mechanism and materials he used. Why did God create the human eyes in such a way that images are formed at the back of the retina which automatically leads to people being born with natural eye defect (long and shortsightedness )?

handsomebolanle:
Mr frosbel... very simple .... only few people fell asleep... we must realise the bible doesn't make mistakes in the use of its word. thanks

What does this mean?

asalimpo:
Hey guyz, i just listened to a tape message where the pastor said he saw into the spirit and an angel was going about stamping some members on the fore head with favour.

We live in a spirit world ..its really living in denial tryng to explain everything in physcal terms. Like i said, extremes are always bad though.

At this point I believe it's time to call it a day.

Martian:
Hey, babies can grow to be wise and knowledgeable but my people have no chance. These people are more like matured savages. No Hope!!!

They see ghosts here, spirits there, gods, demons,and angels everywhere!!!How can a culture that places more emphasis on the "spiritual" ever fully master the mechanics of the physical world?

This is really the problem we are facing. Our leaders are busy seeking divine solutions to problems they have caused themselves. Natural problems have natural solutions and it is much easier to solve your problems if you believe they have natural causes because you'll have to seek for natural solutions to them. If on the other hand you believe your problems have supernatural sources, then you'll have to look for supernatural solutions and so far the supernatural has never been shown to work or solve any problem. This is really the problem we are facing in Africa as a whole.

asalimpo:
so the prayer was hit or miss luck or not?
Cmon. There's a bible passage where a disciple of Jesus was killed by a wicked king, but wen peter was imprisoned,the church prayed seriously and (by luck?), Peter was released.
The negative cases dont disprove the positive. So ur rule itself is wrong.
They wanted to kill her,like theyd done d others but d demon the ritualist slaughter to rejected her.
Incidentally, the girls parents were on a prayer alert.
Luck or consequence?

Luck assuming the story is true.

asalimpo:
Anoda story i stumbled upon , buttressing the supernatural.

How many christians have been killed in the hands of ritualist? Do you know how many parents are praying for their chikdren that are being killed by ritualist at the moment?

asalimpo:
an unhealthy belief in superstition is no doubt detrimental. But that doesnt justify the denial of the supernatural, as was clearly the case in this incident.
A westerner maynt hav serious encounter with outta d ordinary events but in Nigeria/africa theyve been incidents tht highlight them.
It's ridiculous to even try to argue otherwise.

What have you seen? Remember our society is more backward, uneducated, unenlightened and more close minded. We are more superstitious an as such we will always assign magical powers to simple things we find intriguing because we do not have the intellectual ability to sort them out. Why can't we use this so called super natural ability to solve our problems?

dorox:
Watch the second video posted by timmy2409 then tell me what you think.
What you call magic is just a simple parlour trick.

That's what they fail to understand. Juju priest, pastors etc all you simple and complicated natural magic tricks to beguile their audience and people around them. Chris Angle who is presently known as the greatest magician alive has stated that there is no body that uses supernatural powers or abilities. I rather believe him than believe a person who believes that virgins can give birth to people because he was told.

asalimpo:
the passenger was hypnotized,then the money was stolen? Africa isnt america. Here we usee black magic , witchcraft and voodoo and produce logic defying results. Usng a whiteman's logc example doesnt apply. As bckward as africa was bf d advent of d whiteman, we were advanced in d dark arts. Or u will say the african voodoo priest , and witch doctor was using logc tricks?


Like i said, the mechancs of stealling 400k, from a sealed bag, in a blink of an eye by simply touching it, just holds no water.

If you had a brief case full of money, you wouldnt b workup if a passengers hand brushed against it. But to actually empty the contents and replace it with paper would either require drugging u or gun point robbery.
No other explanation fits because u were watchful and alert and every normal process requires messy mechanics: open case, pull out money, bring case with fake notes,open fake case,move fake notes into real case, close fake case, put it outta victims sight,close real case.
How can d above steps b successfully executed in a blink and d victim not notice anything?

An honest person simply knows that somethngs defeat typical explanations.

Part of the reason why the black man will not progress is because majority of us hold beliefs like yours. Can you use the supernatural to explain how the money was replaced? Why haven't we used black magic to better our lives? Why didn't our ancestors use black magic to defeat the European invaders?

muafrika:
Hi @dalaman,

Hello.

nobilis:
Answer my questions directly.
Stop avoiding my questions, then creating your own questions and answering the questions you created. All the questions I asked you on this thread, you have answered none.

He is an apologist and apologist don't answer questions, all they are good at is telling lies and equivocating. The last excuse he was trying to use was the English language. if the bible as the word of a perfect God is not well translated then what does that say about such a God?

malvisguy212:
The sentence of condemnation against the
Amalekites had gone
forth long before, Ex 17:14; De 25:19, but they
had been spared till
they filled up the measure of their sins. We are
sure that the righteous
Lord does no injustice to any. The remembering
the kindness of the
ancestors of the Kenites, in favour to them, at the
time God was
punishing the injuries done by the ancestors of
the Amalekites, tended to clear the righteousness
of God in this dispensation.
See others verse that prove the amalekites were
disobedience to God:
Genesis 36:12 Esau's son Eliphaz also had a
concubine named Timna, who bore him Amalek.
These were grandsons of Esau's wife Adah.
Exodus 17:8 The Amalekites came and attacked
the Israelites at Rephidim.
Numbers 24:20
Then Balaam saw Amalek and spoke his message:
"Amalek was first among the nations, but their
end will be utter destruction."
Deuteronomy 25:17
Remember what the Amalekites did to you along
the way when you came out of Egypt. Psalm 83:7
Byblos, Ammon and Amalek, Philistia, with the
people of Tyre.
Treasury of Scripture
Exodus 17:8-16 Then came Amalek, and fought
with Israel in Rephidim…
Numbers 24:20 And when he looked on Amalek,
he took up his parable, and said, Amalek …
Deuteronomy 25:17-19 Remember what Amalek
did to you by the way, when you were come forth
…
from the beginning the Amalek are aginst God
people,but God is paitence with them until there
evil deed were full, they fall in the judgment of God.

Same way the christians in Nigeria are all falling into Allah's judgement in the hands of boko haram.

malvisguy212:
the evil the men deed you overlooked it but when God judge them you are crying why God , well,50years to come when God kill the boko haram guys am very sure you will be crying God is evil,right?

Is it God that will kill Boko Haram? Are the biblical prophets like Moses and the rest any different from Boko Haram?

malvisguy212 is trying to justify pure barbarism written by uncivilized men long ago because he happens to indoctrinated with their stories, the same man is always at the neck of the muslims and calling the Koran an evil book. The OT is worse than the Koran when it comes to violence and evil deeds. If he claims its God's judgement, why not accept that the injunctions in the Koran which are actually a milder are also judgement from Allah?

This was what you said

honourhim:
The little i ve read about the hindus they didnt attach the creation of the world to God or any being. Except you are saying that what i read was wrong then give me a link to the right one pls.

I just show you they did with the video.

honourhim:
I ve gone through the video and i didnt see anything in that creation account that makes it superior to the biblical account at all.

This has nothing to do with what you wrote initially.

honourhim:
My dear you are just telling your own stories just to cover up the loopholes in your submission. You are not a muslim and they never said what you have just said. you cant speak for them. You may be the one that needs to do some reading about your claims. John the baptist and Moses that were mentioned in the koran are also their own. You dey try. May be you should go and tell your story to small minds that will believe you.

Is the Jesus talked about in the Koran the same with that in the bible? Please explain to m why the Jesus of the Koran isn't the son of God? Why his birth story was different, why he wasn't crucified and why he never ascended into heaven.

The little i ve read about the hindus they didnt attach the creation of the world to God or any being. Except you are saying that what i read was wrong then give me a link to the right one pls.

Below is a video illustration of the Hindu creation story



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9yWwFWpbRo