jp philips:

you have a history of undermining people who wish to enlighten you, no more free classes for you.

if you wanna know how Nigeria makes money, do a research, we will gladly comment on your findings.

Stop carrying yourself in an arrogant manner, simply state your facts for the world to know and stop pouncing around.

The FG makes more than 80% of its revenues from crude oil, wetin u wan talk?

The fact that FFK has an extremely small man-hood doesnt mean he should take it out on women...
It not their fault, they didn create him...

njideoby: The last time I checked, there is a committee mandated to plan this NC, and this" Notice-Me foundation" was never part of it.
Who told them that Nigerians will adopt this communique of theirs?

Haba!!!
everrybody is free to suggest, its something that affects all nigerians

Ohaneze and Afenifere have said that there should b equal representation,
now SS says there should be no "no go areas"

This is shaping up to be very interesting

Written by Tunde Oyesina -Abuja
Monday, October 7, 2013





Ahead of the proposed National Conference, the South-South People's Assembly, over the weekend, called on President Goodluck Jonathan to create a completely unfettered atmosphere where there will be no restrictions or no go areas for Nigerians to dialogue.


The Assembly, in a statement issued in Abuja and jointly signed by its National Leader, Chief Edwin Clark and the National Chairman, Air Commodore Idongesit Nkanga (rtd), a copy of which was made available to the Nigerian Tribune, said it welcomed the constitution of a Presidential Advisory Team on the desirability of a National Conference by the president, adding that the gesture did not only come as a desired relief but a fundamental and critical step to correcting the ills of our union as Nigeria.


"The South-South geopolitical zone welcomes wholeheartedly this opportunity to define the terms of engagement with others in the union. We are not in a hurry to forget the traumatising gang-up against us in the 2005 National Political Reform Conference. Neither are we amused by efforts to make Nigeria ungovernable through constant overheating of the polity by narrow minded and unpatriotic Nigerians since 2011 when President Jonathan was elected.


"Much as we know that a number of people in this country are persuaded by their overt dependence on the resources (oil and gas) found in the heart of Niger Delta, such overdependence without due cognisance to equity, fairness and justice would be antithetic to the fundamental essence of true federalism.


"When people cohabit and federate on the principles of mutual respect, such union would be strengthened and enduring. It is based on the foregoing that we wish to express our endorsement for the national conference and the preparedness to participate in the ensuing dialogue.


"We, therefore, wish to appeal to President Jonathan to create a completely unfettered atmosphere where there are no restrictions or no go areas for Nigerians to dialogue. We equally appeal to all Nigerians to actively participate and cooperate with Mr President to give the project a resounding success. This will justify the many years of our agitation for national rebirth," the statement said.

http://odili.net/news/source/2013/oct/7/608.html

ndu_chucks:

You don't seem believe in the constitutional review process lead by your brother Ekweremadu and you are willing to throw out the 2006 census. Have you ever bothered to find out who the members of the NPC were in 2006 before throwing out wild accusations. My brother if you people have lost complete faith in this country, why not just declare your own country again and leave?

Ndu chucks please do not confuse democracy as practiced by the National Assembly with a negotiation of nationalities,
The national conference is to determine the living arrangement of the ethnic nationalities that agree to live together, what is each will to give, and what is each expecting in return?


A clear example is happening today in Europe, with the European Union, where all the European countries are negotiating to come together, all nations come there with equal representation, Germany for instance will not come to the table with more people than Belgium because it has a higher population, all nations have equal say in the negotiations, if anyone doesn't agree with the decision, it is respected....for instance the euro currency was introduced in most countries but rejected in some....

In a negotiation of existence all parties are equal, the big guys say what they are bringing to the union, the small guys say what they are bringing..only parasites will hope to use their numbers to bully the small ones into submission...or use the army

The number of daft people on this thread is alarming, even after it was bolder stated that it is going to be private sector driven, people still choose to believe otherwise...
Is it possible for the govt to spend 3.2trn without being budgeted by the FG and passed by National Assembly?
It's now easy to see why people cannot understand simple government policy directions..

ndu_chucks: The cold fact is that this breakup wish of the elite NLer who are opportuned to have internet access, is shared by a minute minority of Nigerians.

Most of the loud mouth NLers who yell Breakup at every opportunity, do not have the resources, influence, or power to make it happen.

These wishful thinkers are depending on the 'owners of Nigeria', bunkering militants, and anyone but themselves, to make it happen.

The truth of the matter is that the vast majority of 150million Nigerians including the owners of Nigeria, do not wish for a breakup. Dreamers can keep on dreaming.

The average Nigerian is more concerned about meeting the basic needs of his/her family. Na only people wey don belle full or wey dey suffer frustration for diaspora dey champion this breakup.

Not to worry, Army go take care of una needs.

If the almighty USSR broke up, how much more nigeria...I think u may be banking too much on an army controlled by the core north, check well to ensure that such an army exist. Ooo, remember that the middle belt is in a constant struggle with the born to rule pipo

tpacalipse: Breaking Nigeria will actually do the southwest more good than SS and SE. Let us see where the oil they think they have will take them.

Meanwhile the oils is the only thing developing the SW for now...

DeLaRue:

I'm not sure if this was done along ethnic lines, but if you look closely, there are a couple of Igbo names (former UBA guy, and a couple others). But as with most things in Nigeria, the Igbos have been quietly shifted to the periphery either by design (I doubt), or just by the socio-political reality of the country (more likely).

It never pays to make too much noise in Nigeria. Even if an Igbo man was given a knife and asked to share the electricity cake, even he would have found it difficult to give anything to an Igbo-owned company in the North or Southwest. You see Abdusalami cornered Ibadan, but Yorubas would not bat an eye lid over that. It's business. But if he had been an Igbo man, there would be some disquiet, because of fear (irrational) of long term industrial sabotage and the likelihood that in a few years time, the Igbo guy would announce to the world that he brought electricity to Ibadan. I guess it is fair to say Igbos would be up in arms if the Enugu disco was awarded to a Yoruba-owned company. Country is messed up, I tell yah!

Another reason is that, when all is said and done, and the noise from all quarters are put aside, I suspect the big money in Nigeria is actually in the hands of the Hausas. The Yorubas - even if they don't have the raw cash, they have the quiet deal-making capacity to put something together. The Igbos - should have several individuals who can raise these sought of money, but they are generally not the best at putting together a sophisticated deal involving multi-parties - they are simply too individualistic.

As for the Ijaws, some of whom I understand are absolutely swimming in money right now, I think there are probably too few of them with the 'capacity' to handle a business of this complexity. Coming into sudden money and having a credible business pedigree to handle stuffs like these are two different things.

Just my opinion. No fight o.

You r right fundamentally, but what has to be noted here is the fundamentals of why it is so,
After the civil war, when the entire foreign owned corporate world was privatized by Awolowo, only the Yorubas had the capacity to buy into this, after almost 40 years of training, their skills in the corporate world should be far higher,
This is one of the key reasons people like me will keep fighting for resource control, the corporate oil world industry should be in the hands on the Niger delta, that will be one of the fastest routes for our development.

Militants or politicians running into cash cannot be a substitute for the training you get when you pass through the four walls of the corporate world!

Lagos is working slogan doesn't have anything to do with the real practicalities of developing a real modern , livable city like we experience in developed and developing countries world wide....

But it has everything to do with ethnic supremacy......the whole of nigeria is backward, even the most advanced ABuja, a simple trip to a place like Cairo, Jo'burg etc will show any serious minded person that we are just joking here.....

But it doesn't matter to the ethnic chauvinist drumming the lagos propaganda into our ears, as long as they are seen as the best by the gullible ones

Mayor_of_Lagos: No, Nwabueze is upset over something else and it will be revealed soon.

There is huge gap between matters of ethnic culture, nativity, value system and that of a constituted democratic process.

I dont know about other groups but Yorubas are not concerned about 1914 alone, we are also disatisfied about 1906; we did not consent to either union that we were forced into and want out of it or rearrange it in ways that our interest in it is fulfilling.

This SNC situation is a matter of nativity and race. The process should draw a racial map of Nigeria. Each race should convoke within its group and appoint a single voice to speak for it in the national conference. Whether you are 1million in population or 50million; one voice per race. Ethnics should identify with a racial type.

Keep NASS out of this because it is a democratic process empowered by constitution of Nigeria and not customary laws of the races.

Jigawa is a state, not a race, therefore the utterances of Lamido are inconsequential and ought to be put aside.

Tinubu is speaking for APC, which is not a race, therefore his utterances are of no consequence to the mission.

We need to listen to Egbe Omo Oodua and Afenifere, Ohanaeze, Arewa Elders Forum and other racial groups. Tinubu, Lamido and NASS should step aside. This issue is above their interest and sphere of responsibility.

Great!!! Though,
I dont think one individual should represent a Nationality, I think a number between 5 to 10 is ok, because a wide range of issues will be discussed and one individual will not have sufficient knowledge to make informed decisions on the range of issues.

For those who have an alternative view...look at it like this....Nationalities are negotaiting the nation....if Nigeria and benin republic were negotiating to form a single union, there would both come to the table with equal reps, or at the very least equal voting rights...the fact the Nigeria is 20times the size of bene will not factor in...

Hence the Edos, Hausa, Igbos, Yorubas should all feel equal at the negotiating table

I long for a day when the FG will stop running and funding football and sports in this country...I hope the national conference addresses this...we can't all be daft at the same time.

$£yi:
I'm neither for or against what is coming from the ACF. Buy if we must have equal representatives from the major ethnic group, same must be applicable for the minority tribes i.e. every tribe having same numbers of representatives. The Edos, Ijaws, Yorubas, Kanuris, Hausas, Uhrobos, Igbos, Ilajes, Itsekiris, Ikweres, Ekuns, Igalas, Ibibio etc must all have same amount of representatives.

If the yorubas or the Igbos do not want the Hausas to cheat them in numbers of representatives, they should also not cheat the minorities in numbers of representatives.

I actually support this, but I think there will be some unclearity as to how an ethnic group is defined....will ikwere be counted as Igbo or separately? Will Ibanke be under edo/Benin or Igbo or on its own?

Too many issues. Man

infoscope: Permit me to begin this contribution by quoting a portion of an essay that I wrote on 26 September 2011 which was titled ''On Goodluck Jonathan, David and Goliath''. The portion reads as follows.

''A few days ago from the sacred pulpit of the hallowed chambers of the National Christian Centre in Abuja and in the prescence of the entire leadership of the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN), President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan proclaimed as follows- ''I am not David....I am not a general.....I am not a lion.....I will defeat the Goliaths in our land''. These are deep and instructive words yet I do wonder whether Mr. President understands the spiritual and practical implications of what he is saying.

If he says that he ''is not a David'' how can he then possibly slay the ''Goliaths in the land?'' If he says that he ''is not a general'' how can he be an effective Commander-in-Chief who commands the respect and confidence of his army and his officers? If he says that he ''is not a lion'' how can he overwhelm the animals in our jungle that seek to destroy and ravage our land? The lion is a noble and courageous animal that defends it's pride and family and protects it's own. That is why it is known as the ''king of the jungle'' and that is why our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ Himself is known as the ''Lion of the Tribe of Judah''.

Every king worth his salt must have the spirit of the lion and the warrior in him to a certain extent. It is a fundamental pre-qualification for good quality and inspirational leadership and that is what distinguishes the pretender and the usurper from a real king. May the spirit and weakness of Ahab not be our President's portion even though his words seem to have ensnared him. History proves that weak kings and weak leaders always pull down and destroy great empires and strong kingdoms.

If you have any doubt about that consider what happened to the Roman Empire under Nero, Claudius or Caligula. If you still have any doubts after that then read up on Russian history or watch an excellent old film called ''Nicholas and Alexander'' about Tsar Nicholas the 1st, the last Tsar of Russia and how his strong-willed wife and his consistent display of weakness shamed and brought down imperial Russia, destroyed the 300 year old royal dynasty of the Romanovs, led directly to the First World War (which in turn led to the Second World War and then later the Cold War), caused the communist revolution, led to the Russian civil war, resulted in the murder of his whole family and ended in the establishment and creation of the most evil and godless empire that has ever ruled half of the world- the cold and all-powerful Soviet empire.

That is what weakness, prevarication, inconsistency, cowardice, emotional slavery, inexplicable fear and the celebration of indecision can do. Worst still you don't boast about such qualities because there is nothing to be proud of in them. Always remember, whether you are a king or a subject, that courage is the greatest of all the virtues. This is wisdom. Would someone please tell our President''.

Once again please take note that the contribution that I quoted above was part of an essay that I wrote on 26th September 2011, almost two years ago to the day.

With the killing of 91 children by Boko Haram in Damatru a few days ago, the slaughter of 140 Nigerian troops by Boko Haram in Borno state last friday, the massacre of 41 school children in Borno state by Boko Haram two months ago, the mass murder of no less than 7000 thousand Nigerians by Boko Haram in the last 3 years and the raging war that is going on in the northern eastern part of our country between Boko Haram and our military today those words and that counsel that was offered two years ago seem even more relevant today than it was even at that time.

The carnage that we are witnessing in our country today has come as a direct result of the manifestation of weakness at the top. When a President tells the world that Boko Haram are his ''siblings'' whom he ''cannot move against'', as he did earlier this year, he is asking for trouble. When a President keeps offering Boko Haram amnesty even when they kept rejecting it and whilst they were murdering his people, as he has been doing for the last three years, he is asking for trouble. When a President installs and supports a party National Chairman who describes Boko Haram as ''freedom fighters'', as he did earlier this year, he is asking for trouble.

When a President announces to the world that he is ''not a lion or a David'', as he did exactly two years ago, no-one should be surprised when his people are killed like flies before his very eyes. May God bring us a real leader that can save our nation and may He take away this one who feels no pain and has no empathy when Nigerian blood, nay even the blood of innocent children, is shed with impugnity. Under the tenure of our ''lamb'' President more innocent Nigerians have been slaughtered by terrorists than at any other time in the history of our country except during the civil war.

What a mess, what a record. I continue to ponder about one thing though- would the President have been so unperturbed and detached from the whole thing if the children that were killed in their school yesterday morning had been from his Niger Delta area or from the east. It appears to me that simply because those kids were northern muslims this President just ''doesn't give a damn''. What a tragedy. Whether christian or muslim, northern or southern these are only children and they are NIGERIAN children each of whom is entitled to the full protection of the Nigerian state. I have said it before and I shall say it again, Nigeria has become an abbatoir of human flesh and blood under the tenure of President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan and all those who support him should bury their heads in shame. The blood of all those innocent people is on his hands because he swore to an oath before God and the Nigerian people to protect them from such evil. Instead of getting on with his job and doing so he has spent the last few days boasting to the world about ringing the bell in the New York Stock Exchange and receiving irrelevant, illusionary, self-serving and absurd commendations for absolutely nothing from President Barack Obama. May God deliver us.

Permit me to make a painful observation here. I was thoroughly appauled about the fact that when our lamb President was asked about the latest round of killings during his live ''Presidential Media Chat'' programme on sunday evening he not only told a lie to the world by claiming that only ''21 or 22 students were killed'' at a time when the BBC and CNN had confirmed that at least 45 bodies had been found (more were to be discovered later) but he also failed to express his condolences to the families of those that had lost their loved ones. He made the same omission when he failed to commiserate with or express his condolences to the families of the 140 soldiers that were killed in Borno state last friday whilst fighting Boko Haram simply because they ran out of bullets during the course of the battle.

By way of contrast not only was he quick to offer his condolences to the government and people of Kenya for the terrible carnage that was inflicted on them by Al Shabab last friday when 68 people were killed (I guess that to him Nigerian blood is not as expensive or as important as foreign blood) but he was also quick to offer the Kenyan government military assistance. If President Uhuru Kenyatta decides to accept his offer let us hope that our lamb President will give enough bullets to the soldiers that he will send. Our boys are deeply courageous fighters and they certainly deserve that much. They also deserve to have a Commander in Chief that inspires them, that watches their back and that gives them the very best. May the souls of all those that have been killed by Boko Haram in the last three years rest in peace and may the Lord take the leadership of this nation from the lamb and give it to a lion king.

Permit me to end this contribution with the following observations. As crude and as unpleasant as it may sound the question must be asked - does our President have any balls? Is he really a man? Does he have what it takes to fight a war against terror or is it that there is more to this than meets the eye? Is there a sinister and diabolical conspiracy and plan to ensure that elections do not hold in the north-east and the north-west in 2015 given the fact that those areas are very hostile to the suggestion that Jonathan should return to power that year? Is this whole thing planned and contrived or is it a case of chronic incompetence, ineptitude and weakness? Does Jonathan believe that it is in his interest for the north to burn and for northern blood to be spilt? Is the mindset of those that are pulling the strings of the view that since the problem has been (to use the President's own words in his last media chat) ''localised'' and ''contained in a certain area'' the government can sit back and watch the locals slaughter themselves whilst they continue to drink champagne in the Villa and fantasise about 2015? If that is the case has it not occured to them that their fellow Nigerians live in those areas where the problem has supposedly been ''localised'' and is the blood of those fellow Nigerians not red as well? Are they less Nigerian because of where theywere born and who they are? Are the people that live in the villages and countryside not as important as those who live in the towns and cities?

Whatever is really going on here God sees all and anything that is not of Him will surely fail. If it is nothing but weakness and incompetence that has resulted in this unperecedented carnage, the President will answer before God for violating his solemn oath to protect the Nigerian people from enemies within and from enemies without and if it is a conspiracy to encourage and create turmoil and chaos in the north just to ensure that they are excluded from the vote in 2015, both Jonathan himself and Nigeria as a whole will reap the consequences. It is worth noting that that is precisely what happened in Mali in the elections that took place before the north was taken over by the islamists and it led to a full scale civil war. Any attempt to exclude any part of this country from participating in the elections in 2015 under the guise of lack of security or Boko Haram will result in the same thing with catastrophic consequences for Nigeria. Yet as Napolean Bonaparte once said, ''we must never account to conspiracy what can easily be explained away by incompetence''. It is more likely than not that the situation that is folding in the north-east and the feeble fight that our government is putting up against Boko Haram over there is down to Jonathan's weakness and nothing more. So when asked the question is our President capable of fighting the war against terror my answer would be that I am afraid that I doubt it very much. He just doesn't have it in him. As the former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Tony Blair once said about John Major, his predecessor in office, he is just ''weak, weak, weak''.

I am a great believer in strong government and I am one of those that has always believed that President Olusegun Obasanjo was one of the best, if not the best, and most effective leaders that we have ever had in this country. I say this not because I had the honour and privilage of serving in his government but because, when it comes to his record in public office, the facts and figures speak for themselves. Not only are they outstanding but they are yet to be matched and since he left office in 2007 everything has gone to the dogs. Love him or hate him one thing is clear- not under Obasanjo's watch would 7000 thousand innocent Nigerians be massacred at will in the space of just two years by a bunch of murderous and heartless terrorists. He would have known exactly what to do and how to do it to put a stop to such callous lawlessness and anarchy right from the start. Equally significant is the fact that such was his love for Nigeria that regardless of the region, ethnic group or religious faith that the victims came from, espoused or belonged to, his response to the terrorists would have been swift, decisive and utterly ruthless. He would have had Boko Haram in ''shock and awe'' and the whole world would have marvelled at it. This is because in Obasanjo we had a President who not only had balls but who also had the courage, heart and guts to match them.

The greatest error that we as a people ever made and the worst tragedy and misfortune that has ever befallen us as a nation is the fact that a meek lamb ended up taking a throne that was designed and prepared for a lion. The unfortunate consequences of that tragic error and misfortune are there for all to see. The shedding of the blood of even the youngest, the most innocent and the most vulnerable in our society by Boko Haram on a daily basis is an eloquent testimony to that unsavoury fact.

Femi Fani-Kayode is a former Minister of the Federal Republic of Nigeria

http://nigeriannewsportal.com/a-president-without-balls-by-femi-fani-kayode/

Dear FFK,
Can u kindly go somewhere, hide your face in shame of your inglorious past and stop disturbing us with your propaganda?
Yes OBj was a lion, a general, a king...
But I also remember endless religious riots, in jos, I remember several riots in kaduna, I remember several religious riots in Kano etc...I remember the Niger delta militants....
I remember General Obj keeping quiet when Zamfara lunched sharia legal system.....
You were in a government that messed Nigeria up, one would expect you to hide your self in shame....but instead you open your loud tribalist if and bigoted mouth to comment on issues which you failed to correct while in power.....very funny indeed

^^those above me seam to be the bigoted type, oblivious to practicalities of life! USA with its technology has been fighting Islamic militants for several years now, with no obvious end in sight...

For all intents and purposes nigeria is at war, a full scale guerrilla war, and you guys are mouthing this rubbish

Symphony007: the butaro hospital was not built fully by the rwandan government: the major partners are PIH and MU BUZIMA(IMB)

just like butaro: king faisal hospital was build with money from the saudi fund for development.

Which international humanitarian group helped rivers state build it's 250 health centers?

Back to my question; does the rwandan government assure free healthcare and education to it's people?

Which is more important to you, free health care or quality health care?

emiye: @ op, When making such comparisons, to aid the analysis, you must ensure your data is correct and can be referenced.

You claimed Nigeria's annual budget is 22billion USD , i found out it is 31billion usd.

You claimed Rwanda s annual budget is 1.67 usd, i found out it is 2.2 usd http://www.kpmg.com/eastafrica/en/IssuesAndInsights/ArticlesPublications/Documents/KPMG_Rwanda_Budget_Brief_2012.pdf coinmill.com/RWF_USD.html#


what other wrong claims have you made ?

Bros ye,
How does this change anything?

kufre2010: I don't blame the OP it is in d blood. Exception of few, yorubas are known to b naturally tribalistic and selfish only thinking about their tribe. Infact so that the op can go and comit succide we will not just build seaport but the biggest seaport in Africa. In in no distand time lagos seaport will be useless. If u like let the yorubas call for onshore offshore dichotomy as u people always do.

Kufre,
I think we should lamblast the OP for wanting to pull others down, but dont wish the downfall of someone elase. other you will become what you are accusing them of.
We can have a successfull lagos port and Ibaka port at the same time...the success of one should not mean the downfall of the other!

The SS and SE want to control heir own economy and resources, be it true confederation or true federation, as long as each component can develop at its own pace..
The SW says one thing and does another thing, remember the national confab organized by OBJ, SS and SE were in one voice asking for resource control and true federalism while the north and SW opposed it, prior to that the SW had been shouting for true federalism.....funny how they changed tune when push came to shove...I can imagine how disappointed the delegates from he SS must have been, when the people that had shouted loudest could not put money were their mouth was. Ojukwu must have felt the same way..

omonnakoda: lol you want to go back home and tell them you were debating with omonnakoda. Am I your coeval? Go and play outside .dunderhead

Well the Ibaka port will continue, even if you die thinking of it, it will still go ahead...parasitic hater

DaLover:

Guy stop pretending that you love NigerDelta, like I have said before, if you love NigerDelta so much, use the resources and time you are currently using to escalate issues relating to negative aspects of the ND struggle to escalate and throw more light on true resource control, where families, communities, landowners are responsible for the oil on their land.....

My friend, STFU. who are u to determine if indeed i love the ND or not? u are just a paid govt maggot who has the interest of the people just in words and not indeed. If i am using my efforts in bringing out the bane of the region which is the leaders themselves why dont u also concentrate on the positives. I want resource control but as it is today, ND isnt ready for it because the very little they are given, they have little or nothing to show for it.


If the only way you can show your love is to highlight the negatives, then I can safely conclude that your motives are sinister.

yes and that negative is to showcase the fact that the bulk of their leaders are piece of poo and not the people themselves. u shouldnt have issues with that if u arent among these miserable leaders.


As far as I am concerned, all corners of these country are suffering from the same corruption and laziness, I actually find it funny that you wish to embark on a "mine is better than your show of shame " with me.
We don't want to be better than the SW, SE or any other place, we just wish to live at our own pace, control our own destiny, choose our leaders... It that too much to ask?

No one is asking u to be like others. be ursef and realize ur full potentials. Only a fool will deny the fact that much more corrupt pratices happen in the ND than every other region. Does that make other regions saintly? of cos not.


The Niger delta has given this country so much that no other group can do, i often ask if these oil was wholly located in the SW, will they ever allow what the people of the ND have allowed go on? Can Yoruba people allow cocoa trade to be controlled from Enugu for instance? Can oil mined in Ibadan sold in offices in Benin? Can recruitment offices in Kano determine the staffing of cocoa companies in SW. Ask yourself these questions...

Since the 70s oil money from the ND has been used to run your universities, both state and federal, provide so much scholarships abroad for peeps from the SW, so that they now claim to be the most educated in the country...now our oil that was used to train you has become a problem to us, as you are more interested in pulling us down...
The way I see it, you can channel your energies to help getting the structure right, or channel the education you keep beating your chest about into some sort of productive capacity or keep quiet, leave us alone and face the corrupt ones in the SW.


Rubbish. rants from an 'our oyel' infected brain.


Keep deceiving yourself that there is massive progress in the SW...

no they arent but each of the states have more developing towns than the ND. kindly refer me to a new town coming up in ND?


Many ignorant mor0ns will buy into this for sure, but for anyone who is interested in unveiling the sinister motives of your likes, the truth is that they are quiet happy with the old order, anti resource control (as demonstrated by your leaders) and simply want to keep controlling oil resources, directly and indirectly. The fear of a successful agitation for the control of resources by the Nigerdeltans is the real reason why you always have to constantly shout about those who have benefited from the struggle. You and your likes hope to end up painting the entire struggle black in the minds of the average Nigerdeltan so that the old order would continue.
Big shame on you for your evil desires

To hell with ur oil and what it comes with it. i ask u, now that Jonathan is Presido? what steps has he taken to ensure we have a true federation where each federating units have full control of their resources? is it when an Aboki becomes leader that he will do it. Continue to deceive ursef, even ur leader (Jonathan) knows that if this is done now when theft and robbery of states resources is the order of the day here, it ont be beneficial for the people. I want regions to control their resources. infact, i ant us to move back to the system in the first repulblic but of cos only a ND man will determine if this is so or not.
refer ur lamentations to him.

Once again, another daft response, what's wrong with you? I said I am no interested in your up and coming towns, if those are the best your education can get you...good for you...
Like I said, and will say again, your major annoyance with the Niger delta is their demand for true federalism and resource control...nothing else, no matter how you try to coat it.

You have even gone ahead to say that Nigerdeltans are not ready for resource control of oil from their lands, while your Yoruba folks are ready for the control of the cocoa they till in their lands, even when they still export raw cocoa with their levels of education, and import chocolate...daft as it seams...

Everyone knows there is corruption in the whole country, your preoccupation with that from the Nigerdelta is very unhealthy for you, our solution to solving it is resource control....you have a wicked heart to suggest that the Nigerdelta is not ready to control their own resources, the SW should continue to control it for them abi?


You know fully well that true federalism is a constitutional change would have to pass through the national assembly (plus states HoAs) or SNC were SW and core north parasites have the majority and you are asking why GEJ does not press for it....when will u stop being deceitful ? Why are you so full of parasitic haterade for your host

Was it a crime to feed and train you?

Y not use your media and your resources to educate your SW people on the dangers of a parasitic livelihood, then when we take true federalism to the National Assembly or SNC, it will be accepted. That's how to help the Nigerdelta.

whatofyou: I don't know the reason why the discussion on this topic veered onto another lane, but since it did, and I have been pitching my tent from the anti-Jonah to the pro-Jonah and back without anchoring, this is what I see: 'President Jonathan is between the devil and the deep blue sea, or hellfire. Majority of the people in this politics game do not like him, so does a large number of the populace. He will not win this war by staying alone, forever. It is either he co-operates with his fellow class and rigs himself into power or he seeks the hand of support of the deep blue sea.
Now, he does the former and the country keeps sinking in lawlessness. How will he do the later? By knowing that the only reason he is in Aso rock is because he came to serve this nation, to make her better than he found her. He should just leave his 2015 ambition and serve the citizens wholeheartedly. If he does this most important thing, then sanitises that INEC, rewriting their name in honesty and transparency, PDP will have no choice than make him their flag bearer. Another way, if he wins the followers' hearts by doing his best in the service he came to offer, he can decamp the useless party and join...
At the rate he is going, one day he might enact something that will be a problem to himself. For those of us talking about impeachment, these people in the legislative arm won't want Nigeria setting that record in this era. In this kind of things always stay with the majority- the people. If I am telling lies, ask Ngige! If not that Nigeria is messed up, why should the president be boldly running this nation to sinking? Let us contribute our quota in making Nigeria trully 'the giant of Africa.'
Note that the 'devil' are his fellow politicians and the 'deep blue sea, or hellfire,' is the populace. Even the devil is afraid of hellfire. If you doubt, find and ask the biblical Moses of his encounter between Pharoah and the Red sea. LOL

One of the key reasons, some of these politicians don't like GEJ is because is its sharing cash like OBJ, a number of the assembly members seriously hold his agains him.
When preparing this years budget, the issue of constituency projects was a major ones, GEJ struck it out and then the assembly delayed the budget for some months, he compromise that reached was that ministries would implement the projects while assembly members would supervise the projects in their areas...I am sure the assembly members still hold this against him....

One would have expected the SW press, the northerners who are shouting about corruption, about the almost 60 to 70% recurrent expenditure in the budget to make noise about this, even the aPC assembly member, the holier than thou party...

The corrupt and selfish ones are the ones calling others corrupt!

Demdem:

There is an undeniable precedence and no one can fault such.
Tompolos pocket has been emancipated, to hell with ND environment.
Boyloaf bank accout is now active, ffuck the people at continues to suffer at kolo creeks and their likes in bayelsa.
Ateke Tom is a billionaire, death awaits anyone that says Govt isn't doing well for ND. And the names of these freedom fighters continues.
Joke on u goon.

And these are the only peeps in the Nigerdelta abi?
Of purse the big men have their bank accounts,
If the active bank accounts of Tinubu, fashola, Otedola, Ganiyu Adams, Fani Kayode, Oba Ade etc did not stop lagosians for protesting in the streets for free oil, why will those people will stop the Nigerdeltans,

If you really live in the nigerdelta as u claim and you see the amount of resource controlling ongoing by the people who wouldn't be talking like this...

Any attempt to remove GeJ or cut short his term, or force him to resign will not have good consequences for this country....

omonnakoda: You are not bright.If Yorubas have the power to sabotage a seaport in your land then you probably don't deserve it. Stop thinking like a victim and stop being deceived. If You guys want a seaport and are focussed on getting one you will get it no matter what "Yoruba enemies" do.
My concern here is with Akpabio who is robbing the state blind and in order to get cover from EFCC is buttering up to the President and causing confusion in the Land. Do not let Akpabio deceive you. I know the state and the people personally. Poverty in Akwa Ibom is among the highest I have seen ANYWHERE despite the oil wealth, People are poor and very superstitious contributing to a lot of backwardness. Those from the state who are truthful will acknowledge this. What is Akpabio doing about this?

If the bold comments is really your concern, it applies to the 36 states of the federation, even your proud lagos has so much poverty, superstition etc...I becoming concerned for your health, I just hope this Ibaka port doesn't cause you high blood pressure.

omonnakoda:
I doubt very much you went to school otherwise you will not ask me to prove a negative. Can you prove there is nothing like mami water? If any body claims there is mami water it is there job to prove it not the job of those who disagree.
Can I prove there are no angels living in the moon no I cannot so that demand that I should prove what is not is ridiculous.
Akpabio told us he will deliver a seaport before leaving office and as the day draws closer he starts shifting the goalpost and producing all kinds of alibis and excuses. Clearly it is NOT going to happen before he leaves office and so let us stop kidding ourselves.
Can you give substantial proof that there are no mami water

Don't say you cannot prove a negative, in this case, you could have visited the site, you could have confirmed from staff of companies involved if work is ongoing,

Progress is not meant for Yorubas alone, we can all progress together

berem: But Emordi, at the meeting, pointedly
told the President that the idea of
using cash to buy the support of
members of NASS was wrong
approach, because events of the past
in the NASS had shown that it was
capable of having a negative effect.
Our source said she told the
Presidency that she had been in the
Senate and understands how
members think. In fact, she reportedly
told the President that the idea was
dumb, our source said.


A special adviser gave the president a good and candid advice, and suddenly, the president sacks the special adviser? You see why Jonathan remains a retarrdd? smh.

Why on earth would you believe this story! Hook, line and sinker...take am easy sha

Demdem:

Jonathan will be impeached and nothing will happen. Noisemakers from his villages will be settled since that is the only language they understand and a new improved JTF will be sent to the region to annex it and deal decisively with miscreants like u who will like to forment trouble.
All this within 3months and normalcy returns.

Keep dreaming on man, even if Abacha settled afenifere leaders to forget Abiola, it doesn't mean ND will let it go, oil is the glue that holds this country together, your kind aren't bold enuf to let go.

DaLover:

Clap for yourself, one set of people are petty thieves and the other set are robbers, your strenuous efforts to set yourself and tribe better than others remains your folly till date....


This is not about tribe and its not my intent to make it such. u are the one that is delibrating bringing in tribe and ethnicity to issues. that has always been ur ways. Mine is to say it as it is. because one region is much more corrupt than the other does not make the less corrupt tribe superior to the other. use ur brain.


Anyhow...I am not into who steals more than the others, a thief is a thief, small a big, I don't see how your governors are more accountable, cos the criteria for ruling any state in the SW is to belong to a Yoruba denominated party...

Corrupt practices abound everywhere unfortunately however its much more pronounced in the ND. In the SW, we see more projects being delivered within the limited resources available however in the SS we see especially in extremely rich states like delta, bayelsa we see less and less. what about agencies like NDDC and Ministry of ND created to cater for them? what have they offered so far despite the huge funding?
The SW determines ho governs them and not ur skewed logic.


and I repeat, asides from Lagos....ACN or AD or AC or what ever Yoruba party has not demonstrated capacity to do better than what is obtained elsewhere. I am taking average of SW states vs states from other zones.

U dont need to repeat when u have not even tackled the examples i gave earlier. reports and testimonies coupled with threads here on Nairaland abound on the progress in SW. Ur kind that can deny the menace in this zone ill never acknowledge such. Even at that, i mention few of the various towns and cities exploding in SW and i challenge u to do the same for ND states excluding their capitals. what have u given so far? none.


Am I supporting corruption in the Niger delta?.hell no, do I agree that corruption in the Niger delta is very high, yes indeed...

and i am further saying that its the highest in the country. to whom much is given, much is expected. the opposite is the case here. are other regions culpable? o yes, but not as severe as ND.


But while you are coming here to say that it a unique problem to the Nigerdelta due to the backwardness of the nigerdelta...

i said no such thing. stop being mischievous.

I maintain that it is a national problem which is a result of a structure that encourages laziness.


while i have issues with the structure, i disagree that it encourages laziness. while some are making use of the same structure and doing worthwhile things that are remarkable, some arent. A lazy and incompetent leader will be no matter the structure. get ursef good leaders and stop blaming the structure. besides, if ND thinks the problem is the structure, what better time is to change the structure than no that we have a ND on the throne. is it when an Aboki comes on board that u will be talking about that? what has the retardeen done so far as regards true federation? continue to deceive ursef there.

Therefore your various disguised attempts to make the Nigerdeltans feel inferior is very sad and shameful, your continuous over amplification of issues regarding the the nigerdelta needs to be exposed for the real reasons you are doing so....

i didnt make ND inferior neither did i castigate the people. i live with them and i know they are wonderful people. Those i castigate are their miserable leaders who cheat them of their collective wealth and leaving them in the cold. u will only have issues with this if u are among these miserable leaders. i have no apology for that.

you have exonerated Tinubu,

ooo yes until u bring reason why he shouldn't be exonerated. Because u said it does not make it so. he is among the most investigated politician in this country till date and yet the security agents whom he has no hold on find no fault in him. Even the case against him in CCB was thrown out like a pack of cards. Even at that, he has on several occasions welcomed the idea of him being investigated the more. what else do u want. how i wish that the thief Odili can say the same thing instead of running to the law court to receive a perpetual injuction against him being investigated. Live with that.

but will gleefully crucify Tompolo,

Of cos this killer has to be stoned. having killed several innocent men under the disguise of fighting for emancipation, recent events has shown that he was indeed fighting for the emancipation of his pockets and nothing more, not even his people. Those that died, died in vain and allowing their love ones to miss them forever. The question is no that his pocket has been emancipated, is the ND better for it? Of cos the fool has kept shut since then.

you will lambast Patrick Aziza

I never lambast Aziza. That hero died after declaring that the killer party has a hand in the activities of the evil Boko haram. I believe retardeen should be held accountable.

and keep quiet for dasuki, even in the same circumstances,

which of the dasukis and what same circumstance? did this same dasuki killed the innocent just like Tompolo did to enrich himself or did this dasuki siphon half of his states resources the same way ibori did. U made no sense here.

now you have classified SW govt as petty thieves while ND governors are robbers, I am surprised you didn't call the SW govt saints...

There are no saintly politician and Nigeria dont even need such now. We need those that will deliver and that SW has. the same cant be said about the ND

What did the ND ever do to you?

i love the ND.

Guy stop pretending that you love NigerDelta, like I have said before, if you love NigerDelta so much, use the resources and time you are currently using to escalate issues relating to negative aspects of the ND struggle to escalate and throw more light on true resource control, where families, communities, landowners are responsible for the oil on their land.....

If the only way you can show your love is to highlight the negatives, then I can safely conclude that your motives are sinister.

As far as I am concerned, all corners of these country are suffering from the same corruption and laziness, I actually find it funny that you wish to embark on a "mine is better than your show of shame " with me.
We don't want to be better than the SW, SE or any other place, we just wish to live at our own pace, control our own destiny, choose our leaders... It that too much to ask?

The Niger delta has given this country so much that no other group can do, i often ask if these oil was wholly located in the SW, will they ever allow what the people of the ND have allowed go on? Can Yoruba people allow cocoa trade to be controlled from Enugu for instance? Can oil mined in Ibadan sold in offices in Benin? Can recruitment offices in Kano determine the staffing of cocoa companies in SW. Ask yourself these questions...

Since the 70s oil money from the ND has been used to run your universities, both state and federal, provide so much scholarships abroad for peeps from the SW, so that they now claim to be the most educated in the country...now our oil that was used to train you has become a problem to us, as you are more interested in pulling us down...
The way I see it, you can channel your energies to help getting the structure right, or channel the education you keep beating your chest about into some sort of productive capacity or keep quiet, leave us alone and face the corrupt ones in the SW.

Keep deceiving yourself that there is massive progress in the SW...Many ignorant mor0ns will buy into this for sure, but for anyone who is interested in unveiling the sinister motives of your likes, the truth is that they are quiet happy with the old order, anti resource control (as demonstrated by your leaders) and simply want to keep controlling oil resources, directly and indirectly. The fear of a successful agitation for the control of resources by the Nigerdeltans is the real reason why you always have to constantly shout about those who have benefited from the struggle. You and your likes hope to end up painting the entire struggle black in the minds of the average Nigerdeltan so that the old order would continue.
Big shame on you for your evil desires

Demdem: [s][/s]
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Complete crap. Infact, atwires makes better sense than this piece of shit. Av always known ur line of thought to be skewed and this isn't an exception.
The basis of ur argument made no sense.

Firstly, outside lag, SS receives more money than the rest of SW and the govt there are more responsive and accountable than their colleagues in SS. Not that SS govs aren't doing anything at all but they are shortchanging their people by giving them peanuts in the midst of abundance. As a result, I can comfortably say SW gets better value for money spent. Emphasis on better.

Now to ur specifics.

1. Going by ur skewed talk which I don't neccesarily agree with, more money means more to steal and of cos more to work on. If initially they were given $10 and they steal $4 but work on $6 , if given $20, they will surely have more to work on and of cos more to steal. They will surely work on more than $10. The problem is the percentage difference of what is stolen. While in the SS, amout stolen is more than 60% of amount received, its considerably less than that in SW.

2. And what is so special about SE states? Just like we have enugu, owerri, onitsha, aba(in bad shape) we likewise have abeokuta, agbara, ijebu ode, ibadan, ogbomosho, oshogbo, Akure etc. Infact I can confidently say SE/SW are getting better value for their money than SS with the exception of edo.
Av u ever wondered why apart from the state capitals plus warri from these states, there is no other prominent towns and yet these states are well funded.

3. That is so only in the skewed brains of some stupid ibos and some our oyel infected brain and remants of the killer party in the SW.
Agreed, Tinubu offers services for LASG through his companies and so what? Tinubu has nothing to answer for.

The issue here is there are petty thieves, thieves and robbers. While govt in SS can be categorize as robbers, those in SW can be categorize as petty thieves. Based on current system, SW govs are more accountable than their counterparts here.
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Clap for yourself, one set of people are petty thieves and the other set are robbers, your strenuous efforts to set yourself and tribe better than others remains your folly till date....
Anyhow...I am not into who steals more than the others, a thief is a thief, small a big, I don't see how your governors are more accountable, cos the criteria for ruling any state in the SW is to belong to a Yoruba denominated party...and I repeat, asides from Lagos....ACN or AD or AC or what ever Yoruba party has not demonstrated capacity to do better than what is obtained elsewhere. I am taking average of SW states vs states from other zones.

Am I supporting corruption in the Niger delta?.hell no, do I agree that corruption in the Niger delta is very high, yes indeed...
But while you are coming here to say that it a unique problem to the Nigerdelta due to the backwardness of the nigerdelta...I maintain that it is a national problem which is a result of a structure that encourages laziness.

Therefore your various disguised attempts to make the Nigerdeltans feel inferior is very sad and shameful, your continuous over amplification of issues regarding the the nigerdelta needs to be exposed for the real reasons you are doing so....you have exonerated Tinubu, but will gleefully crucify Tompolo, you will lambast Patrick Aziza and keep quiet for dasuki, even in the same circumstances, now you have classified SW govt as petty thieves while ND governors are robbers, I am surprised you didn't call the SW govt saints...

What did the ND ever do to you?

It's not just waging war on GEJ because he is from the oil rich ND that feeds them.

Carefully cast ur mind to when an ijaw man was NSA, no form of insult that the SW did not use on him, when he was replaced by a northerner, all insults stopped, nothing else changed, just replacing the Ijaw man and anger and annoyance went away. Nobody has ever mentioned the new NSA name in any thread or article, even when bokoharam kill 200 people. Honestly I am sometimes at a loss as to why the average man has taken up so much hate for the 9ja deltan...

The only logical explanation is that the economy of the SW is heavily dependent on oil, and the demand for resource control has obviously annoyed these guys, GEJ is seen as someone who may decide to push for true federalism, worse still is the fact that he made and ijaw woman the petroleum minister and he tried to remove the subsidy payments which that are major benifeciaries.