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dayokanu: If there are more Igbo men moving to Zamfara than Zamfara moving to Igbo land it only means one thing

Zamfara is better tha Iboland

it might be hard to accept but thats the truth

Just like there are more European Basketballers moving to NBA than vice versa

So Zamfara is better than Igbo land, and you wold claim your brain is functioning properly? What a pity!

99cent: so you think GEJ is a competent president?

100%

iwanchop: I think we should rather be thankful to God and not any state or community. The oil producing states/communities did nothing to put the oil in there.
That oil is the mainstay of the Nigerian economy is not because the oil producing states want it so,it is because of what the constitution says.says.If the constitution had given the sole ownership of crude oil to oil producing communities and they in turn ,out of goodwill give same to all other states,then I would have said they deserve all commendation.The only reason I empathise with those communities is the fact that our government has not done much for them,so many of them have ni means of livelihood because oil has done harm to their lands and waters.

Nigeria should be richer than how we are now if previous and present governments properly utilise the numerous mineral resources we are blessed with,the over dependence on crude oil is doing more harm to us than good.

Prior to 1957 when oil was first discovered in Oloibiri,Nigeria could not be said to be a poor nation,we were doing very well from proceeds gotten from agriculture.

Stop first! You should indeed be thankfull that the oil producing states peacefully allowed the rest of nigeria to exploit resources and share it based on population for all those years, just imagine if the oil was located in SW or NW, forget it!
This country would have split long ago

Demdem:
i wish u luck in ur sojourn of the bottomless pit.

When subsidy is removed, you guys will be the first to stop work and begin carnival in lagos, this is just a impotent mix of laziness and ingratitude to your benefactors!

Desola: Sorry, we're talking of crude oil here not palm oyel.

Thank you.

Shebi you have never been to the east, you have just exposed your ignorance, imo produces a lot or lot for nigeria!

Eko Ile: Is this a trick request because we know even with all the oil money and 13%, that joint is still a backward water creek full of pain and misery especially in a state where the past and present governors are incompetent dullards, major international looters, ex convicts, international fugitives, rumor mongering comedians and so on and so on.....

smh....

Only an ingrate would show so much haterade for his paymaster and immediately turn around to enjoy the benefit accruing from his paymaster

Frank-C:
Amaechi and his followers are being funny. Since after the 'elections' why has he not convoked a meeting of his followers? Jang has done that a number of times. Even the NEC meeting he is clinging to on Monday was convoked by the Presidency. What is he afraid of? He should go ahead and convoke meetings as the 'authentic NGF governor' and not be worried by Jang.

One thing is clear here, NGF can never be the same again in this dispensation. Their unity is cracked and even that of the northern governors is destroyed, all because Amaechi want to lead his mates against the wishes of his party hierarchy and other power blocs. The worst case scenario is for Jang faction to rename their union and the split lingers, and that inherently destroyed NGF. And by the way, which serious group retains a rogue operative as a leader? A man suspended by his party leading the opposition governors is what it is- opposition governors forum.

And for the noisy lots up there letting out empty emotions, this case has been decided. Invest your emotions in more important things. Mbeki lost SA presidency when he lost the support of his party. Same thing happens everywhere. You can't stand against the sentiments of your political party and leaders and expect to have a smooth sail. Anyway, i don't expect you guys to relax. Noise is in your DNA. You shouted more during Silva's saga.

Wonderful analysis, especially with quotes to Mbeki and South Africa ..

gratiaeo: Southerns hate Buhari with passion especially the SW though they are pretenders but evidence is there, they never voted for him in any presidential election. Tinubu the SW leader betrayed him in 2011 election.
They have started their romance again but watch them during and after 2015 election

Wow, so they never voted for him? Lol pretenders full this world sha

cnario: Are these guys for real? Each time I read reports like this, my desire to give up on this country increases.

So we can't even trust a 'single' public official? Not even one? A corrupt deal that started during the Abacha regime is being taken to a crazy level by an administration that is supposed to bring 'fresh air'. Come on guys! How does one explain the AGF acting as negotiator/Mr. Etete's personal Lawyer in this deal. This is so so so so wrong.

Nigerian is just a mirage, there is no country; no structure, no accountability, no nothing... Nigeria as we know it, is just a system that allows those that find themselves in the corridors of power to loot as much as they can.

In fact, I give up on this country, I GIVE UP!

What were u expecting? GEJ solved a thorny issue, instead of praising him u r saying otherwise, why didn't obj arrest Etete?

Find Out!:
Dan Etete is the very greedy one , even Shell regarded him as "an impossible person to deal with". Its that greed that has exposed the kasala for all to see now.

[B]But then, we now have our own Attorney general who ordinarily should order the investigation of Malabu oil/Etete, being a part of the negotiating team. That's nonsense. Of course he wasn't doing it for free, and thats why GEJ may likely also be involved. In sane countries, Etete would spend several years in jail. Can you imagine this comic excuse:[/b]

This statement seams ok when looked at from a narrow perspective, but considered holistically, why should GEJ single out Dan Etete for prosecution, during the almost 40 years of military rule, govt officials allocated oil blocks to themselves, remember how Danjuma made is first billions,

Instead of singling out Dan Etete, it may be better to cancel all oil deals that were done by he military, but imagine the confusion and legal issues that would set in, plus the pressure from inside and outside the country by those who would loose.
The best option when looked at holistically is o ensure that the field is producing as embarking on any drive to correct long past cases will be expensive and painful.

99cent: Yoruba people don't hate him. But we are candid and honest in our appraisal of his tenure. The guy hasn't risen to the level of expectation we had for him when we elected him so obviously we aren't too happy. We expected him to be an action man as opposed to Yara'dull. But GEJ is proving to be even duller that we imagine. He acts like a puppet.

Unlike the Igbos, we are not fawning over him and singing his praises. I guess in your eyes, that means we hate him? Not so.

Do you mind to share those expectations, can we subject them to some analysis?

Eko Ile: 1. Yaradua signed this infrastructure agreement with GE and this project in calabar transpired became of that agreement and it has nothing to do with GEJ.

2. Good example, OBJ awarded many energy contracts with GE to build 18 turbines for different power stations in Nigeria, but sambo commissioned the one in sapele, so who gets the credit? Sambo or OBJ.


I know you people are grasping for anything to attache to this incompetent man called Gej whose best vision remains the cassava bread idea he stole from OBJ, but it won't work. The man is a born dullard. He's been in politics for a king time and he was once a governor , but even as a governor, he did not build one single hen gave, he left no ideas or vision for bayelsa and the cronies he left in charge are just incompetent clowns and.comedians and their best achievement to date is trying to catch rumor mongers.....

You are.free to tie yourself to his Halloween costume, but you can't and shouldn't expect others to do same.

There are two options to choose, eko lie and his Lappy crew or GE who is bringing their $250 m into the country run by GEJ, whose verdict should I choose from?
One of the complaints held against the Nigerian system by international investors was the lack of continuity by governance, here we have government who is see through plans initiated by his successors and you don't think it's commendable?

Lets assume that GEJ is running down this country as you have us believe, do you think that GE would still bring their $250m to nigeria because they signed an agreement with OBJ in 1900 ? For our information the environment GEJ has created is responsible for foreign investors coming into all or any parts of the country including Lagos.

Katsumoto: Don't use humor to mask your ignorance. You now know the meaning of the terms migrant, immigrant, migration, globalization. You didn't know how the Dutch settled in South Africa. You also thought Sir Ojukwu was Nigeria's first millionaire. Most of the points that you have made on this thread have not been factual, you have just been making all kinds of wrong generalizations. I am done for now.

Ojukwu, first millionaire? So it was companies that took all the Dutch to SA? Ok let's agree to this, Sheba holland is still better than SA, and they are free to go back abi?

The real reason you have argued so long and hard is to prove that Igbos migrated out of Igbo land to all corners of nigeria because Igbo land is the worse in Nigeria abi, that's the fundamental issue you have being trying to prove with your warped logic.....
Ok let me help you further, Igbo land is not just the worse in Nigeria, it is the worse in Africa and the whole world because in different corners of Africa and he world, you will find Igbos there doing business...
This is exactly the sort of thing that happens when one try's to mask his hatred and tribalism with seemingly sound logic

Katsumoto: Initially for companies such as the Dutch East India company and later for miners such as De Beers. Do you think the immigrants built their own ships to travel to South Africa unless you think they trekked through Europe, swam the Mediterranean sea, and then trekked from North Africa to South Africa. Perhaps you think people used to pay for sea (travel) tickets to move to new places in the 16/17th centuries.

My brother just quit,
There are several reasons for migration, not just one place being better than the other, weather you call it globalization or migrant or immigration or co habitation or exodus, or any new terminology you can think off,
all an migration from one place to another...lol

Katsumoto: Afam, Afam, Afam

Will you take the time to understand before rushing to comment. There is a difference between a guy who moves to Lagos to work in his brother's shop and a Chinese individual who works for a Chinese construction company that is constructing a bridge in Kano. If the Chinese company moves the worker from Kano to Luanda, the worker is called a migrant worker. If the worker leaves his employer and moves to Dangote, then he becomes an immigrant.

Ejike is currently in Lithuania, he has been in Spain, Ukraine, Iran, Poland, etc. He is not an immigrant. He is a migrant worker. Because Ejike has moved around so much, we can't tell when and where he will settle. Quite different from Hakeem who we know to be an immigrant. There is a difference between immigrant and migrant. You will soon start paying for the education I am dispensing to you and DaLover.

Yes oo, I actually feel obligated to pay for the free comedy sessions you are dishing out, ordinarily I would paid at least 5k to get similar entertainment from basket mouth and co... Now we have left the migrating vs globalization arena to that of immigrant vs migrant, Pls I am laughing too hard right now, tears of extensive laughter are streaming from my eyes as I type...you seriously need to consider a future in comedy, you've got the raw talent.

Afam4eva: You're contradicting yourself. What is the difference between a Chinese coming to Nigeria to work for a firm and a young guy coming from the village to work in his uncle shop in Lagos?

This one really made me laugh, let me see, the Chinese coming to work for his company in Lagos is globalizing while the Igbo coming to work in his brothers shop in Lagos is migrating,...Katsumoto, pls confirm that what I just wrote fits in with your definitions?

By the way your name 'Katsumoto' looks Japanese, did you happen to migrate or globalise from Japan...lol

aasog1: We hate him because we massively went against another Yoruba man's third term ambition because we knew it was wrong to make way for him and today he calls us his enemies. The same OBJ who did everything in his power despite at the detriment of incurring the wrath of his party loyalist, yet the same OBJ has been branded an enemy of the Ibos and SS right now. Because the 1st person who fought and bled for GEJ, a Yoruba man Tunde Bakare with Wole Soyinka, while those hypocrites who now flank him and call his brothers shut the hell up, and didn't say a word are today been treated like enemies of the SS and SE people. Gej has treated the Yorubas in the most ungrateful manner all because of what?

Pls state in clear terms what GEJ has done against the Yoruba people?

Katsumoto: Do you guys know the meaning of the terms migration and globalization. Migration of individuals and groups is predicated by a desire for the groups or individuals survival. Globalization is simply a corporation expanding into other countries to buy and sell goods and services. Migration is absent of corporate directives. How many Chinese do you find in Nigeria that traveled of their own desires to find work? Most Chinese nationals in Nigeria are company sponsored even if their subsistence is wretched. Nigeria is better than Lebanon because there is positive migration from Lebanon to Nigeria.

Globalization is Citibank opening offices in Shanghai, London, Mumbai, Madrid, etc. and sending its employees to work in those offices. Migration is Afam leaving his village in Alaigbo to work in his brother's shop in Alaba. Migration is also Afam learning the American Anthem so that he can impress the consular officer who may give him a visitors Visa to the US but unbeknownst to the officer, Afam will stay put in the US for life. Chinese workers for chinese corporations are all over Africa and Latin America. Some of the Chinese corporations move their employees from country to country building infrastructure. That can never be termed as migration.

Your examples of NBA players and colleges have nothing to do with migration.

Ok, it's very clear now...I now understand why Dutch people migrated globalised from holland to South Africa in the 1900's even though SA was a barren and undeveloped land..one thing I don't understand though, which company globalised so many Dutch people?
Also in midevil Europe, during the period Columbus discovered America, so many Spanish people globalised to places Spain was far better than...
I like this new globalised word brought into the argument, it makes everything so easy to understand

ayusco85: I was only sharing what the prof david west said about GEJ and Buhari and the way forward for Nigeria. And i think he has A̶̲̥̅ point there. Buhari might just be the messiah nigeria needs.
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In order words book haram might just be the messiah Nigeria needs....ol boy dey carefull ooo

Maxymilliano: Did you close your eyes while reading the original post or what? The post stated that

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When did last year equate 2009 or 2006 as you are trying hard to claim? Instead of running amok and foaming at the mouth over nothing, ask yourself why Obasanjo lamented and decried the reversal of most of the economic policies he instituted by late President Yar'adua ...

Lol, very funny, but if the haterade is strong enough, it's somehow possible to make 2012 seam like 2009, God forbid evil people!

Ngwakwe: Na today,

The Opposition Alliance for Democracy (AD) led a physical combat in the hallowed chamber of NASS when it became obvious that N'Abba was keeping good on his promise to impeach OBJ in agreement with the senate.

The S/West fraternity is so strong that they always act in their favour whether good or bad ( always own up this your ideology and stop deceiving the gullible and feeble minded).

If they say this regime is less favourable to S/West that I can understand (having enjoyed the spoils of war with the North from 1970 - 2010) but demonizing every move of GEJ government is outrageous and barbaric to say the lest.

True talk, remember how AD, the fore runner of ACN went into partnership with OBJ for the second term, only for OBj to display his Yoruba trait by staging them in the back and supplant them with PDP governors, the Bluetooth guy is just a big joker!

CyberG: ^^ My exact question!

That aside, a lot of Nigerians in Nigeria are still illiterates even though they pretend to have attended university. How does GE hire the type of engineers that have kept them going for years? Local catchment area? Or is it the one thugs and criminals in different communities force foreign companies to hire their intellectually lazy citizens? Well they will for low level unskilled labour, however not for high paying skilled jobs. Most of their products, research and design engineers have and will be done outside Nigeria - no locals for that type of job. The skilled jobs which requires good education and experience if sourced from Nigeria will most likely come from Lagos, Ogun, Ibadan, states with manufacturing companies for years, PH for energy related experience requirements. For skilled positions where they'd still pay significantly, provide training and let recruits gain experience, but need raw intelligence, superior academic achievements, demonstrated leadership and communication capabilities, they will turn to recent and fresh engineering graduates with First Class and 2.1's (80%+ or 4.0+) from the best universities in Nigeria. Where are these universities? The Great Ife Obafemi Awolowo University, University of Ibadan, University of Lagos, ABU, Unizik, Covenant, Uniben in somewhat that order. When I was an undergraduate, most foreign companies came to my school (Great Ife) yearly to interview students.

So to mediocre-thinkers who are already thinking of catchment area for GE, be ready to work low-end, unskilled labour for they do not need the class of people I highlighted for such jobs. Plus it is good for their PR, social responsibility, and far cheaper too.

The summary of your story is that only Yoruba people can run a company like GE, so they should have located I in Lagos, but since they located it in Calabar, the Yorubas will be imported from lagos, Ibadan , Ogun to run it because the locals are not intelligent enough abi?
YOu even listed schools in order or best to worst with Yoruba schools being the best!

For a people so brilliant, I keep wondering why no major world breaking scientific achievement comes out from that area, well maybe it's because I don't read enough news after all I come from the area of unintelligent people.

After the civil war when, Lebanese and British interest we privatized, the Igbos and Nigerdeltans were recovering from the war, Awolowo and the SW snapped up shares in these companies, now many years later, these company heads, who probably attended schools in the SW now go back to recruit from their schools in the SW and you consider that a sign of greater intelligence.

I honestly thought his attitude of some Yoruba people that they are more intelligent Han orders had been eradicated on Nairaland, but it seems more work needs to be done!

Ikengawo: The level of malice towards GEJ is unparalleled in Nigeria from the SW.
Everything from yoruba newspapers to bloggers to politicians and speakers are vehemently against GEJ, why?

You can say 'incompetence' but Yar' Adua didn't get this level of venom from that region and he spent his entire presidency in a hospital bed. The North it's self isn't this vocally anti-GEJ. Anything GEJ says they're willing to accept the opposite without question, even amnesty for Boko Haram which Boko Haram specifically said they don't want.

Imagine a people used to being subsidized into lazy life styles, someone comes along and tries to end it....the result is endless insults..
Don't get me wrong, I totally understand this type of behavior, it's expected... What baffles me endlessly is that the insults come from a part of the country that claim to be the most educated and hence should be in the fore front of taking
this country out of his lazy attitude, driving industrialization through creativity and hardwork, instead their time, efforts and attention right now is how to revert to
a situation where sharing of oil money is further entrenched, even if it means supporting book haram..

btechnology: am so sure dat til u live dis earth u cannot achieve anything close to his height. I wonder why Nigeria wil nt learn to respect their leader, even if he's not getting every thing well, he's a human and we r nt above mistake. Lets us try to support our leaders!!

Imagine a people used to being subsidized into lazy life styles, someone comes along and tries to end it....the result is endless insults..
Don't get me wrong, I totally understand this type of behavior, it's expected...

What baffles me endlessly is that the insults come from a part of the country that claim to be the most educated and hence should be in the fore front of taking this country out of his lazy attitude, driving industrialization through creativity and hardwork, instead their time, efforts and attention right now is how to revert to a situation where sharing of oil money is further entrenched, even if it means supporting book haram...

nijanigga: Look at this dimwit.what did david west said in this one that is not true? Is gej still in good terms with Obj?
go and clean your anus.

Guy pls what you fascination with people anus and shit?
Remember its 14 years hard labour now sha...just saying

highlandre: Whenever I read what this man says or writes, I change my opinion about the Niger Deltans: there are many South-South people like this man who still think with their head, not driven by greed, sentiments or ethnic colouration.

For those who may not know, Prof. Tam David-West, a former Minister of Petroleum Resources, still lives in a 3 Bedroom apartment inside University of Ibadan. He enjoys driving his 505 Peugeot for official and pleasure purposes. In short, he's an upright man in today's Nigeria!

To heII with your opinion of Niger Deltans! And pls don't also give a damn about my opinion about your people also,
So he lives in U.I, that explains a lot...he probably thinks that wild accusations against his own brother would cast him into the good books of his landlords..talk about selling your birth right for a plate of porridge .

He was minister of petroleum under IBB yet, GEJ is tasked with the responsibility of fixing he refineries, someone you cannot see the long term effects of his failure in governance and refuses to keep his mouth shut. tufiakwa!

This is the same Tam David West that once said there is nothing like subsidy....
Pls leave the political space since you have nothing reasonable to say or offer....

He started criticizing GEJ sometime ago, believing this was a path to achieving a
Meal ticket from his Govt, to his rude shock, GEJ is not that type of man...

Political Jobbler!

Afam4eva: Is Nigeria better than China? Why then are Chinese people moving to Nigeria in drives. Same with Indians.

Why are some NBA players moving to European basketball clubs? That's because there's no space in the NBA to take everybody

Why do some people go to community colleges in the US? It's because they couldn't make it to a real college.

There are many other examples.

If you had supported your assertion with Lagos, it would have been understandable as everyone moves to Lagos in droves.

Using his own logic, South Africa will better than Uk and Holland because many people from these countries moved there at a point in history, and when the British people (the greatest country in the world at a point in time) where moving to places like Africa India etc...it was because those places were better than Uk...
This is what I call tribally inspired logic..his hatrate for Igbos will blind him to the truth....
This is exactly what happened when Ojukwu called for a loose federation, which experience had told everyone was the best way to go....but because it was being said by an Igbo man, the rest of us gladly accepted a unitary system of governance .

Clearly the Man Asari is being singled out by the SW propaganda machine because he dared to speak the taboo words "resource control", there are many who have made money from govt or oil but they are quietly enjoying because they choose to remain quiet.

Asari has every right to be rich...no apologies to even one, when people people were fighting for free PMS in Lagos and Kano, he spoke the bitter truth..

Asari, pls keep the fire burning...Nigerdelta shall soon control her resources!
If dem like, put pictures of your mansion, your bank accounts, ur cars self...

All attempts to paint you black will fail woefully!

dayokanu: Human migratory patterns are always towards prosperity.

That's something that cant be hidden in GDP or figures

People are not just adventurous into suffering,

Unless you can show us a net migration from places of higher prosperity to lower.

Nigeria is a great example of where such happens!
How about migrating from a place where competition is stiff to a place where the people are more relaxed or less business inclined?
Even if you have never been to Anambra state, the fact that there are more Anambra indigenes in Zamfara or Kastina does not in anyway mean Zanfara or Katsina are richer than Anambra...
Please broaden your reasoning and stop letting tribalism get the best of you.

Katsumoto: There is a lot wrong with a unitary system of government. For one, Nigeria is too large a country both in size and in number of ethnic groups to have a centralized system of government. If one looks at progress since 1966, even an unintelligent observer would conclude that Nigeria has made no progress under a unitary system of government. Advocating that unitary system of government is ok because one particular group wants to exploit opportunities elsewhere is plain selfish.

It matters who wanted a unitary system of government because you can’t force something on others and then turn around and complain when someone else has the power to use that thing against you. Justice, fairness, and karma dictate that you swallow your pill like a man. Like I stated in my previous post it is moronic to suggest that people who are comfortable in their environment should move around just because you want to. That’s not how the world works. Many poles want to move to Germany, should Poles be telling Germans that there are opportunities in Poland? To the Igbo man who leaves Owerri to go and make his millions in Zamfara, yes Zamfara is better because he didn’t have the opportunity he found in Zamfara in Owerri.

You keep sounding like you have a problem with logic – what subsidies exist in the North and SW that don’t exist in the SE? How you chaps arrive at the SE being ahead of other regions amazes me. Net migration from the SE to other regions is positive. That means more people leave the SE than migrate to it. Why would a man risk his life crossing the Sahara desert to reach Europe or stay in Maiduguri, Kano where people are being killed regularly if not because of economic opportunities? Would it make sense for a German to cross Europe and the Mediterranean Sea to get to Syria? The reality on ground implies different to whatever is being manufactured by some incompetent civil servant in Abuja.
It is obvious some of you manufacture these feel good factors to compensate for other things.

As usual your argument keeps being narrow, you may or may not have been to eastern Nigeria to see things for yourself, but you theory of migration patterns is not at all comprehensive, I won't talk much on that issue again, but it it left for you to decide if the differences between north and SE or SW and SE are the same as Mexico and USA, or Germany and Poland..or if we just have a set of more adventurous people....
I know deep down you know the real truth, weather you admit it, is another thing entirely.

Again, I have not said that unitary system of government is the best for nigeria, read my post again, I said its ok where people are not limited by tribal sensibilities, and nigeria isn't sure a place...hence the original desire which was based on their competitive and adventurous nature was wrong and that is why Ojukwu reverted to a demand for confederation....

You have to be more analytical in your view of issues using facts, I have presented facts to show that 1966 was not the first time Nigerians started becoming suspicious and fearful of igbo domination and how everything lead to Ojukwu asking for a confederation.

Do u agree with me that the unitary system of government in place since 1966 has been used to hold down the SE?

There are clear differences between what the Igbos wanted before the civil war and how the SW and core north have run this country post civil war. So your statement that the Igbos were the first to ask for unitary govt and hence should not complain is at best delusional.
Prior to independence and the civil war, the Igbos advocated for a more united nigeria where everyone can move freely and benefit maximally in the country, one country, not Mexico vs USA or Poland vs Germany,
Since 1966, the core north and SW have nationalized assets, stifled individual competitiveness, encourages parasitic dependence on federal government, made laws against private participation in business core to the economy, created in economic non viable states, instituted a culture of revenue sharing as against revenue generation etc...

I naturally expect you to agree with me that the situation since 1966 has actually not set the nation in the right path, but the key thing is do you understand why the principal actors have configured the country as such?

Katsumoto: You are the one that doesn’t understand his own point. You argued that the Igbos pushed for regionalism because ‘tribal sensibilities of the country didn’t permit their travels’. And I countered that you ignored certain facts. First, it was the Igbos who gave Nigeria a central government. Second, the desire for regionalismwas born out of the loss of political power to the Northerners and not out of some wretched foresightedness by Ojukwu or anyone else. By some cruel irony, Ojukwu himself proclaimed his love for unitary government.

You guys use your half-baked and incomplete education to pursue your debates rather assiduously. Who told you that the people who created the opportunities didn’t make use of them? Yes Ojukwu senior was a wealthy man but before him were Akinola Dawodu, JH Doherty, 2 generations of Vaughns, 2 generations of Georges, the Odutola Brothers, Salami Agbaje, Adebisi Giwa, Mohammed Shitta-Bey, Da Rocha, J Cole, etc. Or were all these folks from Alaigbo? As for your point about military men, see military high command as at January 1966 – Ironsi, Ademulegun, Adewale Wey, Maimalari, Ogundipe, Kur Mohammed, Shodeinde, Adebayo, Gowon, Fajuyi, Njoku, Korubu, Largema, Ojukwu, Pam, Unegbe, Imo.

Like I said, people move for economic and social reasons. There are opportunities in Mexico, why aren’t Americans moving to Mexico? Because the economic and social conditions present in the US are sufficient for them. You don’t need to tell people to them, the laws of social sciences and economics provide for that. Doesn’t it sound moronic when an immigrant moves to a place to take advantage of opportunities there and then tells those he meets there that there are opportunities in the place he has migrated from and that if they are competitive, they should move there and try their luck? People who are satisfied do not move, simple.

I will repeat again in a different format, hopefully u will understand me this time....nothing is wrong with a unitary system of government if people can move freely amongst each other, settle and take advantages of the opportunities in those areas....if this is not the situation, like people moving at totally different paces, Igbos vs rest of Nigeria, then it is best to move for a confederation or loose federation...what is so complicated here...

In order words it doesn't matter who wanted unitary system first, what matters is what system works for the current situation on ground....
Let me give an example... Igbos wanted unitary system for free enterprise, industry, business competition etc....but this is not stop the Yoruba man from competitions in Kano or Enugu for instance...an Igbo man leaves Owerri, migrates to Zamfara and makes his millions...is Zamfara better in any way than Owerri or IMO?
Compare his with what the Core north and the SW have done with the same unitary government since 1966, Nationalized all key sectors of the economy, stifled growth and competition, now SW and core north are hooked on free stuff as in the case of subsidy, the SE with the least government presence is ahead of many other regions.

On merit, hardwork and temerity, the Igbos produce fine officers for the British military, many northerners started to emerge when the British tried to please the north...read your history very well

It is something you would vehemently want to deny but when you strip the meat from the bones, the real reason why nigeria is where we are today is because we have configured our structure to promote laziness, and this is because the fear of the Igbo