₦airaland Forum

Amarabae:
It's so obvious that you guys here are still bitter and raged over the "malaria and typhoid specialists " jibe?
What a show of insecurity
Tell me one health professions your seniors have not been insulting online?
Is it the pharmacists who you malaria and typhoid specialists call "mere dispensers"
Or
We nurses
Or medical laboratory scientists
Etc
How many times have we heard you guys say that johesu professionals couldn't pass the cut off to study medicine bla bla bla.
Sorry dear, toughen up and be a man,
Stop being a cry cry baby.
What goes around comes around.
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And for the rest of your comments
Not all doctors who travelled to western countries are practicing,
Some end up doing petty non medical jobs to survive and save up money in order to leave the particular country to another country(though it's in a minority rate)
Some even go back to school there and venture into a new different career path.
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I know Canada one of the western countries you guys look up to very well and being there many times.
Our last born is there doing his medicine, I can introduce him to you if you want.
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And finally there is nothing like "auxiliary nurse "
Auxiliaries are not nurses but quacks, you can call them auxiliary doctors.
So your auxiliary jibe is dry and boring.

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You are piling up big bitterness in your heart,
That means that the social media is gaining influence over you and you are still yet to graduate,
It's a bad way to start.
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Loosen up and stop being emotional,
Me replying you does not mean that your comment is relevant,
It's just that I love to correct children.

Amarabae:
Watch your emotions boy,
Uncontrolled emotions leads to rage and usage of foul language.
It makes someone to have a poor sense of humor and it breeds sadistic nature.

And by the way, you are the first medical student I know that sleeps on social media,
It looks suspicious.
Be careful before it turn into an addiction and affect results.
That's an advice from me.
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I will not be brought back to this thread.
This is the final note.
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Signs Out!

Amarabae:
You are still a kid yet to graduate and know what the world is talking about.
I am sure that the "malaria and typhoid specialists " jibe pepper una for body.
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Auxiliary ke, Artillery ni.

My bold presence hit you peoples nerves.
It's understandable.
All graduate nurses are bold and smart and don't tolerate nonsense.
It's in the blood.
Ask your seniors who are practicing.
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Continue to train quacks and keep deceiving them.

WesleyPepper:
Oga..you fall my hand sha.
That simpleton you quoted is not a post graduate anything. She's an auxilliary nurse

Amarabae:
Is your sense of humor on sabbatical leave?

Amarabae:
They don try on this one.
Our wonderful malaria and typhoid specialists.
Kudos to surgeons, the real doctors.

ceaser:
And you call yourself a nurse?

Weren't you taught that "common things occur commonly" in different places? Malaria, typhoid and other tropical diseases occur commonly in the tropics and it is therefore expected for doctors working in such regions to be proficient in treating such ailments. Some may be required to undergo training in managing exotic diseases in which case they become a teeny weeny less proficient in tropical disease management and will have to rely more on primary specialists in tropical medicine.

It should be no surprise nor attract condemnation when a doctor in the US happens to nearly miss the diagnosis of malaria in a patient that actually has the infection.

sogodihno:
your brain is obviously not functioning, your first lines sold u out, all pharmacist were rejected from medical school? why are people these dumb?. So their is no pharmacist that chose pharmacy as a first choice? your brain is really not working. it's a pity.

one thing I know, and is also visible to the blind is that NAFDAC fare better under Akunyili(a pharmacist) than under Paul orhili( a medical doctor). And those shouting mass exodus, abeg! u guys should leave quickly, their are many umeployed doctor that will willingly replace you.

Amarabae:
Nigeria degree nurses are more recognised and needed in western countries than doctors who sometimes end up as janitors and cab drivers there.
Ask around.
Don't worry, when you graduate, Oriaku Amarachi will send you to North Korea to practice

meforkene:
All these still boil down to hate and envy for medical doctors.
Do you know why?
The Nigerian mentality is 'doctors too dey form'.
They are Endangered species as they are not up to 70,000 registered and practising doctors in Nigeria(maybe way less) to cater for 180M Nigerians. So it's very easy to gang up against them.

At the end of the day, if by cosmic accident johesu wins, who will suffer? Of course the johesu and the masses. Do you know why and how?

At the long run, the FG as usual will back out and privatise the entire sector(just like NEPA).

This will push everyone to privatise(run your own business).
Doctors will open private hospitals, no more teaching hospitals where the johesu talk. The doctor would employ the essentials that he can pay. He must employ nurses. He wouldn't be able to pay pharmacists so he'll go for pharmacy technicians. He would employ laboratory technicians instead of scientists etc.

Then the masses will pay for unsubsidised health care, heavily.
Everyone would focus. No more noise.

Amarabae:
just leave and stop disturbing us.
Graduate Nurses are leaving, we are more sought after abroad.
Medical laboratory scientists are leaving
Pharmacists are leaving
Etc.
If you want to go, go pls.
You will be replaced

FreeConCiencE:
Continue to live in denial. I just pity you guys having seen what you guys are facing after school and what you faced while in school. Go to any community, get the estimate ratio of professional Pharmacists and trained chemists. It will surprise you to know that the number of chemists surpass that of Pharmacists. Take it or leave it. Pharm B ko, Pharm Q ni. Both chemists and our so called pharmacist are drug dispensers. Except for few of you that were able to distinguish themselves in pharmaceutical companies. Guys, your job is under threat. This not to tell you that you should go and start harassing chemists in the community because most of them are doing better than the so called professionals.

For your information, virtually all the private hospitals in the country have pharmacy section and sell drugs directly for their patients. Most doctors in the these hospitals employ pharmacist and give them crumbs and some of these doctors trained some of their nurses to be able to dispense drugs as well. Pharmacy in Nigeria is a total MESS. I will never advise anyone to read that course if the possibility to travel out is not guaranteed. It's a pity. Medical lab science is a better alternative course to read. I respect the diligent ones among them.

emekatheo:
Mumu you and your team of quack doctors can not still tell me how hepatotoxicity in paracetamol poisoning occurs. Doctor! Doctor!! Almost 48hours and you and you team of 6 quack doctors couldn't come up with an answer. Shame on you and that you useless mbbs that has no other value outside the 4walls of your consulting cubicle. You mentioned Radiology, neuroscience, psychiatric, paediatric ,surgery , pathology, O&G which are areas in your field, what if I take you round in Pharmaceutics, Pharmaceutical Technology, Pharmaceutical microbiology, Pharmacognosy, Nanomedicine and Technology, Pharmaceutical chemistry, Drug design. If you are not a Pharmacist, you can never be a Pharmacist.

Waillers!!
Doctors are already stooping low according to you with their mbbs to come and study Pharmacy.
Jealousy and envy will continue to kill you.

If you are not a Pharmacist hide your face or go pick the next jamb form or DE form and apply with ur mbbs and start 2nd year.

DABMarkNig2019:
This war of words should end. whether we like it or not, we're team mates caring for our patients from different points of care and perspective. Drs are leaders of the health team and i have great respect for them. I have many of them as friends from school and have met with so many others now in practice. They're wonderful sets of professionals.
As we seek to understand ourselves, we should never give room to hate. We shouldn't be enemies with one another.
#There should be no profiling
#Let love lead...love knows no enemy
#AVARANCHI
#AVARANCHI

aribisala0:
A doctor who still uses Pinhard stethoscope is just a wizard ,blaming government changes nothing.
Fact stilll remains that Nigerian specialist doctors are half-baked

DABMarkNig2019:
I could equally have used google there and for you to be okay with those answers i gave shows the nature of dr you are . They typical nigerian type who knows nothing of individualised therapy. All they know is following a particular protocol once a patient presents with signs and symptoms of what they think they've handled before. who does that anymore?
I'm not a toxicology pharmacist...I'm not even in the clinical environment and believe me if you should meet with one who's in the same area of specialty as you and though he wouldn't be doing everything like you do cos of job description and division of labour, there's nothing you know that he doesn't have the knowledge of and he'll match you bumper to bumper if not even better than you...Could that be the reason NMA is fighting specialisation in pharmacy practice? saying subtly that we should concentrate on drug discovery and production. The health field is an evolving one with lots of innovations coming out weekly...naija drs should try to evolve too. The way NMA fought pharm.D then was like these guys are going to be trained to do drs stuff. That shouldn't be your fears as we know our areas of expertise and job description and as I will always say you guys should accept the fact that the dispensers of yesterday are today's clinicians. Our scope of practice keeps on expanding by the day. In climes where things works even though the dr leads the team he alone cannot reach conclusion on clinical matters. it's not only medical care that gets the patient well, there're other types of care too. It's a joint and team effort not this thing in Nigeria where the dr is all knowing.

This wannabe thing is another thing i can't understand. who brainwashed you guys to think that everyone in health sciences wanted to study medicine? for God sake medicine was my second choice and if you want evidence i can upload it here. I still have my jamb registration slip and result...i would have studied medicine if I had wanted...it's inglorious to me so stop hyping empty nonsense.

aribisala0:
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Does government buy equipment for lawyers, accountants,engineers.butchers or vet doctors?

Must doctors be government employees? Have they always been ,must they always . Oponu ni awon obi re ni ile ti akoti abo

Improve your English




The Nigerian doctor needs to grow up, master separation anxiety and learn to live without government

aribisala0:
Nobody percusses anyone any more. That is so 1960s

Nigeria refuses to move with the times

You lack exposure . That is your problem.

What proportion of doctors in Nigeria have more than MBBS. How many doctos in Nigeria take part in any kind of CPD

How many doctors in Nigeria graduate without cheating in exams or forging signatures for procedures not done/observed

Power of a doctor? What power? to turn water into wine?


The typical doctor in Nigeria is a textbook doctor livingin the stoneage.

Spare us the hubris and keep it real

How many doctors in the whole of Nigeria have ever as in EVER used a defibrillator?

You guys still use Pinhard stethoscopes for fuckksssakes

Amarabae:
What evidence can you give to back up your assertion that they are johesu members

TempoJames:
UBTH Johesu memebers have involve in a fatal accident.
Why don't the pharmacists and other members of Johesu that know more than medical doctors treat their own? The same hospital they put under lock and key is where they are being treated.
The power of a 'doctor' doesn't lie on the name but what we are made of.
Even the Society has raise medical doctors above every other health profession.
Sure way to know this, present representatives each arm of Johesu and present a medical doctor and see who the px will chose to tx him/her.
You think medicine ends with obtaining mbbs?
Even a prof of medicine will tell u he/she hasn't seen(± know) it all.
Have u guys been to a ward round and see how a consultant percusses his senior reg? After exhausting all your knowledge on an issue a consultant will hold his/her little finger and stare directly into your sweaty forehead and humbled eyes saying... ehn ehn that is 1 point(5/100)...u see you know nothing in front of pxs n johesu members that claim they know more than docs. I wish Johesu members go on ward rounds with docs let's see the depth of their knowledge.
You want to be doctors on a platter of gold.
HYPOCRYTES!

FreeConCiencE:
See them here


http://ardisth..com.ng/2018/05/doctors-at-isth-irrua-respond-to-mass.html?m=1

WesleyPepper:
Lol..This is ridiculous !! Acetylcysteine is cysteine analogue with a longer half life.Your methionine is just another AA that can be used for the management of paracetamol toxicity.

What is the commonest route of administration of the N-acetylcysteine in clinical settings?

And after how many seconds, minutes or hours would your antidote be useless If you fail to act ?

What zone of hepatic lobule is the commonest site of liver damage due to acetaminophen toxicity ? And why is it the commonest site ?

What type of necrosis does it cause ?

Gimme the prognostic signs of the toxicity ?

And can you tell me about the symptoms, signs and management of fulminant hepatic failure ?

The above questions are definitely beyond the scope of your curriculum.
My questions covered pharmacology, pathology and GI medicine ..

Keep calm and dispense my prescriptions quietly

TempoJames:
googles won't answer those question. I asked only what a doctor can answer. You won't even see in a texbook of pharmacology. Only a physician that knows in toto how a drug can affect modify the course of a pathology. Boy I'm not here to exchange words.
google out the answers let me plain out your deficiency. I studied pharmacology as a course and again studied its clinical applications in "medicine" as a course too. And a pharmacists thinks he/she would be better.
You won't survive if I take u deeper. First of all bring out your google answers let me put you in place.
Oh you are still a student and want to argue with me? Kid you have a long way to go.
I took oath 9yrs ago and proudly a pathologist.
My 2 kid bros r in UNN medsurg 400L and pharm 500L. I know the limitations in pharmacy.
I want to show you how deficient you are even with google and textbook at your disposal.
If you don't have a solid knowledge of morbid pathology your knowledge of pharmacology is just as shaky as a chemist. Even chemists know the use of drugs.
What differentiate a med doc is how the drug can modify, alleviate or even worsen the pathology.
Just go and pass your exams. Kid!

optm:
lolz kul down ur temper jare. optometrist dey see pepper fr ophthalmologist hand dey suffer just lyk oda johesu members. i m tired of d inter professional rivalry amongst health wrkers. no one shld try lording over the other. we re all servants to the pts. lolz

Thanks18:
Bros, you should have ignored him for silence is the best answer to a fool. I just observed he is still a student. Reality has not dawn on him. Let him graduate and come and meet us in the hospital. He will know where he belong.

optm:
in our various trainings, we hv areas dt are given more attention because it is more relevant to our primary job spec. there re areas of pharmacology a pharmacist ll do better dan u as well as areas u wld do better due to d attention given in training based on its relevance to carrying out primary duties. a newly grad pharmacist is nt all grounded in evry areas that's why there re consultancy areas to mk dem authority in their chosen area of interest. i think a clinical pharmacologist shld be able to giv answers to ur questions. we all had diff trainings to enable us carry out our specific duties. it's childish trying to mk comparison in order to find out who is better. let's learn to hv respect fr one anoda.

toysleek:
I know your type...always reverting to insults..you think I give a hoot about you? Learn to be civil..when someone talks to you like a normal person, reciprocate!..Will not reply you again,

toysleek:
I know your type...always reverting to insults..you think I give a hoot about you? Learn to be civil..when someone talks to you like a normal person, reciprocate!..Will not reply you again,

sassysure:
Doctors can never ever do it alone. There are many specialists aside nurses who they can't do without. Surgeons can't do their jobs and don't know how to do their jobs cos it's not part of their specialty. The thing is that at the end,especially in nigeria,only the Drs get all the praise