₦airaland Forum

donofdons:
First things first, let these men tell him that healthcare in Nigeria is paralyzed because hospitals and health ministries are managed by doctors who are not trained in management and administration and have little understanding of population health needs. Let them hire public health experts to manage these things.

henrymartins34:
See them chaii. God give me half of thair wealth. abeg sorry for me God

PointZerom:
Lol, see who's talking business.

deedeedee1:
Ibo people. Na wa for una. So much lies. GTbank should not lend this man money anymore. If he knows he can't do without victim mentality, let him borrow money from ibo banks.
Yoruba people should be careful with who they do business with. There are terrible people everywhere.
I would like it if the country is split so we will all learn to mind our business. I am tired of the hate and disunity. Let us go our separate ways.

MrBigiman:
I hope Johesu doesn't strike in that place.

sogodihno:
u are a bigger Ode, having a pharmacy without a pharmacist working there is quackery, and also their are hospitals without medical doctors but experience nurses and pharmacists, that's quackery too. So what's really ur point?

sogodihno:
so u can open a pharmacy with enemy license? baba shift, u don't av point.

sogodihno:
likewise a pharmacy, in fact you must Open one with a Pharmacist license and have a superintending pharmacist too, so it's the same

Geesaintagape:
I'm a proud nurse , I never loved the idea of johesu for 1 day. I wish MNAN can pull out of this johesu.
Long b4 now nurses n Drs find love in themselves but Johesu has taken this love away.
I keep asking myself for how long will this last.
I never dreamed of having a union with hospital cleaner, generator operator at the backyard nor the accountant when I took nursing as choice number 1 in life. Many of us have lost our relationship to Johesu Nma tussle.
To b frank i hate this johesu i found myself

sogodihno:
And u think pharmacist don't have hospitals too? in fact av seen an Engineer that have an hospital, anybody can own an hospital. Don't deceive yourself.

Amarabae:
Nurses have seen shumtin.
I think it's time we leave JOHESU and stand on our own.
And if we leave johesu, that will be the death of that union.
Johesu leaders met with Saraki and collected bribe and betrayed the union.
You called off a strike without a public signed agreement,
They gave you bribe and made an empty promises to you and immediately you call off a strike.
Shame!
It's time for the Nursing profession to leave JOHESU!
We can't afford to be used as foot soldiers all the time despite our contributions to the health sector.
The health minister threatened sack, so what?
Who really depends on salary?
I own a private school and a pharmacy.
So I saw his threats as a joke.
Johesu leaders messed up by collecting bribe.
Shame again.
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Happy new month all

Yerimzo:
Truly some folks passed through sch without sch passing through em. No worries,by d time Pharmacists start publishing the blunders u guys write as prescriptions dts wen u Wud realise robots can't save the innocent lives most of y'all half baked Drs send to early graves. Mister if u've not travelled arnd at least Google is ur frnd, Pharmacists all over the world are no corner stones,there's no contest btw y'all and Pharmacists wen drugs are involved. Day in day out dis honorable men and women clean up ur mess without making a biggie out of it. Nigga just chill,time go tell.

worlexy:
Those of us that are not, will write JAMB and choose to be the real doctor, not impostors.

Thanks18:
No I am not a nurse. I am a Physiotherapist.

Thanks18:
You are daft. I am not here for secondary school debate and I must not be responding to all comments much especially ones that are full of bias. Once I made my point, I will not keep repeating and gesticulating it. I also made mention of a veterinary Dr becoming US Surgeon general. Kwara state has appointed a nurse to be the substantive commissioner of health. Leadership of health sector should be open to competent administrators drawn from all stakeholders. I am done with you. If you like keep pursuing shadow and reactive to the positive dawn coming to Nigeria's health sector.

You are daft. I am not here for secondary school debate and I must not be responding to all comments much especially ones that are full of bias. Once I made my point, I will not keep repeating and gesticulating it. I also made mention of a veterinary Dr becoming US Surgeon general. Kwara state has appointed a nurse to be the substantive commissioner of health. Leadership of health sector should be open to competent administrators drawn from all stakeholders. I am done with you. If you like keep pursuing shadow and reactive to the positive dawn coming to Nigeria's health sector.

Dnaz:
The nurse who attained the position before had a degree in nursing and then another in medicine. In other words it was a nurse turned physician

funmisticqueen:
AlphaT1 let me demonstrate to you what i know will happen once JOHESU members are given consultancy. i saw this message written from a JOHESU group page.

*JOHESU.COM Discussions Activity*

*Need to brace up to do the NMAs jobs whenever they are on strike*

Dr Kelly Nwagha fpsn

11:48AM in General News & Information

We heard that the doctors are doing everyone's job at some hospitals. We should not worry as they have thrown the first stone. We will wait for them. Whenever they go on strike, we will also do their duties, which we are very capable of executing and excellently too, thanks to Pharm D. and consultancy status in other professional cadre, and refer surgical cases only to friendly healthcare facilities. If patent Medicines vendors prescribes and treats patients in their localities and make their money to build 1,2,3,4 attorney buildings, the Pharmacists are there to consult, prescribe and treat with better medicines as the only experts on medicines. The Optometrists are there to handle all eye challenges. The nurses would have to add to their curriculum Nurse practitioners course to enable them prescribe medications for patients. The Laboratory scientists are always there to assist with the diagnosis. The Radiographers are there as well. What s it that we don't have. The Physiotherapists nko? All on our side. Dental technicians are d people that do the work of the dentists and even do it better. Its only Surgical procedure only That we will refer as I said earlier. Period.

*copied*

Ugomba:
Am in the legal profession.
Am interested in medical law.
Apart from doctors, can you list for me by percentage the contribution of other health professionals in the management of a patient!
Sorry for the inconveniences

Ugomba:
What! Pharmacist = a doctor minus surgery! How exactly

frankpro27:
Hohohohoho. Hahahahahaha. Loser

WesleyPepper:
Quack dispenser

Yonce:
LMAO. . . . Is this something they tell you guys alot in school?

My mother's a nurse and everyday she keeps saying"I'm waiting for them to inject you with their madness so you'll eventually turn against me. I know it will happen soon"

ultron12345:
Hunger is gradually setting in for JOHESU. Injustice will never triumph against justice, and the injustice JOHESU represents will never triumph over the FG and Nigerians in general.

Victory acerta for all Nigerians that stood for justice, Johesu will be crushed.

Consultant nurse ke, consultant gateman ni.

Seems hunger has finally gotten to Amarabae, NLs johesu warrior and auxiliary matron, I've notice shes cooled down lately. The Amarabae I know will be masturbating up and down, shouting johesu.

worlexy:
I just laugh when JOHESU spread the lies that Doctors can't work without them, that is the greatest lie from the pit of hell. A doctor was trained to be able to do all the works paramedics(JOHESU) does, it's JOHESU that can't do most of what a doctor can do. Now let's not confuse "can" with "won't". The fact that a doctor can work and make the hospital to work at 100% capacity doesn't mean he will do it, if you want doctors to make the hospital work at 100% anytime johesu is on strike, all the FG needs to do is to say for that particular Hospital, all the doctors will be paid for their normal doctor works and will also be paid the for the JOHESU work they will do while the strike lasts(if JOHESU salary in that hospital is N5m, just tell the doctors that since johesu are not working, that 5m will be shared on the doctors salaries while the strike lasts, then you will see that the doctors will do all the works) They won't do it with this present set up because it doesn't make sense to do someone else's work and the person that hasn't worked will still get paid for doing nothing and the person that has done extra work won't get anything extra.
Also when the doctors start doing all the work, majority of those that will come and benefit from that service are still the striking johesu members because like they say everytime that they make up 95% of the hospital workforce.
Now let's analyse the work johesu do in the hospital

1. Pharmacists
The pharmacist in our hospitals only read what a doctor prescribes and dispense the drugs, no more no less.
Pharmacists that work in pharmaceutical companies(they are not under johesu because they don't work in the hospital) are the ones that produce drugs and some medical consumables.

2. Nurses
They give injections, and other medications to patients, do vital signs some of them take deliveries.

Doctors can do all that

3. Lab scientists and technicians
They run tests on blood, urine and other samples sent to them by doctors

There are doctors in the Lab that can also run all the tests but johesu would have locked up the lab so that doctors don't have access to the lab

4. Radiographers
They shoot X-ray, CT scan, MRI and doctors in the radiology dept are the ones that report the film the radiographers shoot.

Doctors can shoot too


So have you seen why they always lock up everywhere when they go on strike?

Oyerinde16:
IF WHAT JOHESU IS FIGHTING FOR IS EQUITY NOT EQUALITY WHAT'S D BIG DEAL, IF IT WILL TAKE A PHARMACIST, LAB SCIENTISTS, RADIOLOGIST ETC 12 YRS TO EARN WHAT A FRESH DOCTOR START WITH, Ngige TOLD THEM ALL IS SET 4 IMPLEMENTATION BUT MIN OF HEALTH IS BLOCKING IT, Bleep D DOCS

Solababa91:
Please let's leave him to his ignorance, I had told him earlier on to go check what a disease is, a supposed intelligent physician would have at least make findings or enlighten himself with what he doesn't know rather than feigning his ignorance and living on what he's been told or fed with, may be we should tell them it's not business as usual, we've woken up, we have new generations of Professionals now, not the one they run over years back, nobody can paint blue as black for anybody. NOT AGAIN! These has been their problem right from onset, instead of them to bring themselves low and learn NO! rather they will keep boasting and Doctoring on ignorance and it's been affecting them. WHEN ONE THINKS HE KNOWS EVERYTHING AND KEEPS RANTING "STOOFS". The other two up there said an HIV patient cannot have stroke secondary to meningoencephalitis and one was even trying to build STOOF where there exists none by saying blah blah blah "there are diseases HIV patients can have" or whatever, have not seen anyone of them respond on these thread any longer I know they would have made research to visit the link I shared and buried their head in shame. That is same way they formulate false diagnoses and diseases processes to poor and ignorant patients, these one too said gait abnormality, hemiplegia and spasticity are not diseases, then what are they? Good health? He has not even checked what a disease is or care to know what Physical Therapy is all about. May be he's been fed too that all PT's do is just to carry hand and leg or PM. Laughs...

boldest:
these are the kind of doctors of johesu nigeria will be seeing ....meningoencepahalitis becoming worse and turns to stroke just like that ....first of all I doubt if you know the possibilities of various dx in HIv and thank God u attest to the fact that the drug makes d patient better ....so he is alive to visit d so called Dr of physiotherapy ...

InansBobo:
The devil is too wicked but no matter how wicked the devil is, when God shows..... the incredulous is inevitable.

Watched the service, the twins elder sister testified of how the twins were mad for 1yr and 6months, gone to several hospitals all to no avail, brought them to God's presence and Mercy located them...
God be praised!!!

Amarabae:
Nursing is a different field from medicine,
When I or any nurse say that we know things in medicine except surgery does not mean that we know more than doctors but rather we are not novice in medical issues.
Knowledge comes not only by degree but by working experience too and by advancing in post graduate studies.
The problem is that you understand things literally and not logically.
What will make a graduate nurse or even a sound school of nursing nurse not to be able to treat her relative who is convulsing?
So if a child is convulsing and rushed to the a primary health care center where there are scarcity of doctors, the nurse on duty can't do anything?
What exactly do you think Nursing Science is?
I can see that you are dowing down the route of arrogance,
Are you aware that there are fellow colleagues who are in private practice managing patients?
Or you just want to comment.
The Lord resist the proud and uplift the humble,
Learn humbleness today.
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Next time you want to quote me, please package your comment in a matured non insulting way,
Then I will reply.
Or don't bother mentioning.
Thanks.

Yonce:
But why are you guys always always bringing up doctors' salary scale to compare

They keep saying a starting doctor earns so much than a nurse who's been in the system for years.
You cannot compare a starting doctor to a nurse who has worked for 10years. . . .he still knows more about treatment than the nurse and at the same time knows less than a fellow doctor who's be practicing for 10 years.

A young doctor shouldn't be compared to an old nurse. There's no basis for comparing their duties hence salary scale shouldn't be compared.