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NextPresido:
A country with laws unlike this zoo where criminals roam free

Even if he is taken to prison, do you think it will be a poor man's prison?

Go and watch wolf of wall street

Why don't people make use of lawyers? Lawyers specialize in frustrating police officers

Since bitcoin is marketed as untraceable and unaccountable how will they recover the money, a bank can easily do it but a bitcoin firm can't.

lawani:
An offending monarch can be directed to commit suicide if the offense is great enough but often they are just removed. A monarch in Yoruba land can not go to war against the Ogboni. That would be like the US President going to war against the CIA or the national assembly. You can't go to war against your boss. What once happened in Oyo was a civil war that broke out between the Ogboni. The head of the Ogboni who was very powerful wanted to remove the Alaafin but the other members did not agree as reflected in the vote instead of the Basorun to succumb to popular opinion he used his popularity to fight war. After a long time of fighting, the imperial army marched on the capital from where they were stationed in Ajase, modern day Porto Novo. The Bashorun was captured and executed. That is the only case I know of of an Ogboni assembly descending into civil war.

The difference between a Yoruba monarch and a prime minister is that a Yoruba monarch comes from a royal family and there is no term limit. They are also not elected by universal adult suffrage. They are under a one party rule

First of all, departments in the USA go to war on each other all the time, but because USA is a democratic country these battles dont destroy the country. The most popular rivalry is CIA vs FBI but lately we saw DOGE vs the Federal Government, we are also seeing ICE vs county powers.

The story of the Bashorun sounds a lot like a Monarch playing the system and emerging victorious.

lawani:
Anybody in leadership position should be easily removable. That is the only way leadership can be efficient. Yoruba monarchs were monarchs and they were easily removable. Every town had an Ogboni council and they are the real rulers and they can override the King on any matter. The King is not deferred to during Ogboni meetings.

There were Oyo kings that were removed and later recalled. Same in Ijesa. The Kings reigned, made crucial decisions, lived in affluence and etc but they didn't really rule in Yoruba land. The Ogboni were the rulers. They peer reviewed the monarch. You can't leave the leadership of anything important to just one person. In Rome, they had the Senate. In the US today, the CIA can order the President around. If you leave just one head to run a nation what will happen if the person goes insane? There must be peer review

I don't know much about Yoruba monarchy system but didnt they get rid of the monarch by ordering them to commit suicide? And didnt the monarchs eventually go to war against that committee?

And what is the difference between your version of monarchy and a prime minister with a longer term limit, take Netanyahu as example (which is not a good example).

lawani:
Once the monarch can be removed by a committee above him or her then there is self correction. The British did not abandon their monarchy at any time and we owe this industrial era to them.
Any leader should work under a committee that can sack the person without ceremony. That is what is important

The British did not abandon their monarchy but their monarchy became symbolic and lost real power.

lawani:
Once the monarch can be removed by a committee above him or her then there is self correction. The British did not abandon their monarchy at any time and we owe this industrial era to them.
Any leader should work under a committee that can sack the person without ceremony. That is what is important

If a monarch can be removed peacefully (without dying) and another appointed in his place, then it is no longer monarchy, at worst oligarchy or at best constitutional monarchy which is basically parliamentary democracy...

And do you think a powerful monarch would enjoy being told what to do, and wouldnt try to play the system to gain/keep more power? He would sit by and let himself be kicked out?

steadygo:
It's true Russia was behind Western Europe, prior to the abolishment of monarchy, but Russia's Industrial growth had already started before the Tsar fell. The Soviet Union did industrialize extremely faster but that was because the state forced it through centralized planning not because there was an inherent flaw with monarchy preventing industrialization.

U.S was not actually created to escape the "limitations of a monarchial society" like so many people think. America's reason for leaving Britain control was mainly due to the British taxing and control their affairs when not being represented by British parliament. They wanted their own colonial assembly that represented them to decide what taxes they pay to Britain so it was initially not an attempt for separation from Britain or the British monarchy but for internal governance. It was only independence got pushed alongside anti-monarchy sentiment when the British King, George III rejected their proposal. The actual development of the U.S came about through factors that have nothing to do with monarchy vs democratic republic but have to do with land seizure (the land the US sits on itself is one big land seizure as it originally belonged to the Native Americans), unbridled exploitative capitalism, and one of the largest slave labour force in recorded history. So it was not the case either that the US development came with "democracy and equality".

In the case of China, after the Qing dynasty ended, modernization did not happen immediately. It fragmented, was destabilized and struggled to build a develop state for decades depending on how you count it, therefore it does not suggest ending monarchy is a cause of development. Indeed, the Qing dynasty attempted industrialization but failed due to constraints such as a weak state capacity which led to industrialization not being able to be enforced nationwide. So your point here has more to do with a weak state capacity than it does a monarchial system as non-monarchial systems and democratic republics can also have weak state capacity and thereby face similar issues.

In Germany, Otto von Bishmarck governed within Germany's monarchial system, under the Kaiser so it is not fair to say Germany's industrial boom did not happen under the Kaiser.

On France, the second empire by Napoleon III was a monarchy in practice, it was still a life-long ruler with centralized executive authority as well as limited parliamentary control. Indeed, what Napoleon overthrew to become sovereign was a republic. So this only helps prove my original point that monarchy is potentially a superior form of government.

In my view, it's not really true that a monarchial system is inherently opposed to industrialization or even usually like you said. Why should it be? Also, a lot of major industrialization happened under monarchies that were not just ceremonial. Germany's Kaiser had real executive power and the industrial boom happened under that monarchial system. Japan in the Meiji era saw industrialization with a monarch who was not merely ceremonial. Russia under the Tsar was not a ceremonial monarchial system and industrialization was pushed.

As to your last point, my view is: Democracy is a system where the people risk the state of their country continually by gambling over and over on which politician would lead them. Monarchy, on the other hand, if approached correctly— is simply a system where the people are wise enough to equip the state to effectively prepare and secure a competent leader/leaders ahead of time, as well as have systems in place that can appropriately check, remove and replace such a leader.

For Russia, that very lack of central planning was a key feature of the monarchy, you also didnt mention serfdom, how the vast majority of russians under monarchy were practically not different from a cow.

That part about USA is definitely a lie, USA constitution was anti monarchial, the declaration of independence is a jokingly diss track against King George. For all its flaws USA democracy left it open to self correction, people can protest change, Monarchies dont self correct they crash.

You admit the Qing dynasty had poor state capacity but failed to acknowledge that the weak state capacity was the result of a monarchial system that placed its power in the hands of a concubine and a child.

Napoleon III started out as pro democracy but he slowly shifted to become a monarch which resulted in him being captured and France suffering.

German Kaiser had real power and he used that power to start world war 2, which led to him being overthrown and Germany suffering. Under Bismarck Germany saw its true peak, once he was out, the natural problems of monarchial system took root.

Democracy allows you the option of removing an incompetent or power hungry leader, there is no self correction in monarchies.

Knowing all this white old women

It could be they were caught in their affair so the old woman quickly form story.

But that picture is ai.

Fenrir:
A monarchy sounds romantic until you remember one critical detail: Nigeria is not a homogenous country. You do not have one people with one identity who see themselves first as Nigerians. You have multiple ethnic blocs, each with its own history, heroes, grievances, and suspicion of the others. Now imagine placing a crown on just one head. What happens next?

If the king is Yoruba, the Igbo will scream marginalization.
If the king is Hausa Fulani, the South will accuse him of domination.
If the king is Igbo, the North will demand secession before breakfast.
If you rotate the crown, every tribe will still see the king as a temporary enemy in a robe.

Monarchy depends on one thing Nigeria does not have: a unified cultural loyalty. Monarchies survive when the citizens believe the crown represents everyone. Nigerians do not even trust each other over rice recipes, talk less of eternal national allegiance.

In fact, Nigeria would not have a king. Nigeria would have a tribal warlord with a better wardrobe.

And here is the irony: the same people shouting for monarchy are the same ones who cannot tolerate a governor from another tribe. You want a king? A permanent ruler? In a country where people argue over flags, names, borders, language, food, history, and even the correct way to pray?

A monarchy in Nigeria would last three weeks before:

One tribe claims the king is biased,
Another calls for self determination,
Someone somewhere shouts "not my king,"
And the South East forms a committee to create their own crown.

Unless of course, they make me king.

I have no tribe here, no ancestral enemies, no uncle waiting for a contract, and no hidden agenda. My only loyalty would be to my throne, my royal goat, and ensuring no one cooks jollof rice without a license.

In summary: monarchy in Nigeria is impossible, impractical, and guaranteed to collapse faster than NEPA power supply… unless King Sven rules. In that case, everybody gets suya and nobody fights. Problem solved.

I disagree with you on this.

The Royal Family of England are historically Germans, before they were Germans they were French, before they were French they were Normans, England hasnt had an English king in over 900 years, yet most English have respect for their royal family, even when Germany was bombing England.

Usman Dan Fodio ruled the North but he was Fulani not Hausa, and even the Royal Family he overthrew were not Hausa.

A monarchy can stand multiple ethnicities infact it might be an advantage but a monarchy cannot stand multiple sects, philosophies or religions; because a monarch is a divine and anointed ruler. And if people cannot agree on which God did the anointing...

The king of England could be German as long as he was Protestant not Catholic, Usman Dan Fodio could be Fulani as long as he was Muslim.

Someone that insulted multiple judges and lawyers is who the court should show sympathy.

Of course he is Israeli.

Well many Nigerian politicians would also be worse behind closed doors, but Nigeria has terrible media. I'm sure that Israeli called Nnamdi Kanu would also have dirty secrets but nobody is investigating him.

BigdaddyPR:
Renowned attorney Alan Dershowitz, Epstein’s lawyer from 2006–2008, directly asked Epstein if he had any incriminating info on Trump during plea deal talks with prosecutors. Epstein replied: “Nothing at all.” Striking, given Epstein’s alleged possesion of extensive blackmail materials on elites.

If real dirt on Trump existed, Democrats would have released it to destroy him which obviously didn't require any effort and pretty easy, instead of calling peaceful protesters insurrectionists, pushing Russian collusion hoaxes, 2 ridiculous house democrats impeachments, trying ballot removals, and waging lawfare.

Can’t control him? Can’t blackmail him? Last resort: unleash media lapdogs to deflect, smear, insinuate, and bombard the airwaves to sway the ignorant and gullible.

Bill Clinton is also in the files, which is why Democrats didnt release it, but Democrats also didnt campaign on releasing the files unlike Trump

He even claimed that people will say he is ai. A very clever style of deflection from the fact.

illicit:
But who killed those useless boys...?


That's the question

It doesnt matter, we do know he disappeared for a while only for this very convenient reappearance

bigpicture001:
That video I watched is not AI biko

Its good quality

Why is it that the very week Soludo decided to close the Onitsha Market that was when Gentle De Yahoo suddenly resurrected? Its almost as if he is being produced from a cybercafe and his producers decided to bring him back.

Then the ai came back and started talking about poison, we all know there's no way the Nigerian army can poison him (they would prefer to shoot him) , only the people close to him can poison him. The poison story is a classic way to gain sympathy while making the actor look immortal, i'm sure the producers included it there to make their story more credible.

If you watch the video you won't see any guns or anybody else for that matter, what kind of terrorist doesnt show guns in his video? This proves they don't have any weapons (maybe not even in Nigeria) and including other people might interfere and mess up the quality ai.

Lastly we must use all our reasoning skills. If Buhari can be cloned and become Jubril El Sudani, why can't Gentle De Yahoo likeness be produced in a cybercafe with ai?

IPOB is trying to scam the people with fake terrorists to terrify the masses into being subservient.

All this one is dribbling. If any violence happens on Monday we will blame all of them.

Ps. Why is Emmanuel Kanu not in prison, i thought he was Emma Powerful.

Akwamkpuruamu:
If people choose to take Monday as a resting day, it's nobody's business as long as them no come Ur house to beg U for food

And if the government decide to close the markets, they can take their business elsewhere.

And this is precisely why IPOB must be completely disbanded. An organization that lacks coherency and organization.

This one say sit at home, that one say no sit at home.

Result = When the sit at home is being enforced by their violent criminals they will deny and say they have nothing to do with it or better still claim its the FG.

BeardedMeat:
Ok, now that we have watched your monetized video to help your hustle, we have also discovered that your analogy of the video was nothing but a click bait.

That video was posted days ago before the latest trending that i didnt bother watching, the poster is very frequent on nairaland.

As for my analogy, if you guys believe Buhari is El Sudan, who are we not to believe this is ai or a lookalike, no weapons no personnel.

Mbanda:
Anti-nigeria you said
Is Nigeria not anti-Igbo?
So after treating Ndigboo like 3rd class citizens, you Nigerians still expect Igbos to love and embrace Nigeria?

Why do you guys love lying to yourselves?

Well you can vote, you have lands, you own property, Kanu was even given a fair trial. That is not standard 3rd class citizen treatment.

eagleonearth:
did you use the digital or clinical method to check? At what time of the day did you check?

I checked in a hospital, in the morning 9-11am.

If you watched the video, observe how he
kept twitching almost like dancing, that is a sign of serious mental illness, and you would also notice the lack of personnel or weapons, for someone who is trying to inspire terror that is very very odd.

Whoever that person is, that person is not feeling well and is definitely incapable of arousing fear in anybody. Definitely not a commandant of anything.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-8qdKrOfqw

My last blood pressure was 139/68mmHg, I'm feeling very okay sha

Mbanda:
First of all, wetin be una problem with the sit at home protest wey Igbos dey do for their land?

because the sit at home is inherently anti Nigeria and Igbo land is in Nigeria

thomas2024:
If at this stage of your life, you still don’t understand Federal government complicity in these shenanigans, sponsoring unknown gun men to discredit IPOB, then sorry is your case. Are you not in Nigeria when Asari Dokubo was fingered in the sponsorship of UGM in the south east? They die the matter down as usual. The same government keep fighting terrorists in the northern part with kid gloves but when it comes to IPOB, they turn to lion king. What does that tell you? People say they want to go, you say no, they must stay back. Now, they stay back. Yet you are not happy they stay back, you keep giving yourself headache because their agitation is not meant. Na mumu Dey trust Nigeria government in this 21st century. I learn one thing so far. Anyone or organization Nigeria government especially APC government praises, be watchful but anyone they fight both tooth and nails, I’m proudly in support of that person. The media and Nigeria government will manipulate into loving people you suppose to hate, and also manipulate you to hate people you suppose to love. You can argue with me as usual because it’s easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. And this is the reality of most tribalists in Nigeria. I’m a Yoruba guy but I detest anything associated with Tinubu and APC. Tinubu never mean well for the country but his family and cronies.




I had to dig this out for you so you get schooled on what is called double standard of the Nigeria government.

In December 2023 the Nigerian airforce launched a strike in Kaduna that killed over 70 people

In December 2024 there was another airstrike in Sokoto

In December 2025 there was another airsrike by the US in collab with Nigeria in the North

Nigeria is using kids glove on IPOB thats why some people can publicly offer tacit support to terrorists, with no serious consequences.

gidgiddy:
You think they sat at home out of fear? Do you know how big Onitsha main market is? Its probably the biggest market in Africa, you cant make the traders there sit home.

They sat at home because they want to

So why didnt they continue their sit at home, what changed?

Could it be the fact that it was a constituted authority that told them to sit at home?

It was rebellious and cool when IPOB ordered it but it is not cool to follow orders and abide by the law.

smileyoo:
ipob is never a terrorist group, and Nnamdi Kanu is just a political agitator, that is why Chicago - a state in US, recently honoured him with a citizenship award, because he is in prison as a political agitator, not as a terrorists .
The US can never recognize a terrorist as their citizen .
you guys have not been able to defeat the real jihadists' terrorists, that are killing and kidnapping group of Nigeria citizens like little chickens, yet you are ignorantly praying for the emergency of another terrorist group.
do you still love Nigeria ? then wish her well .

At least we agree that jihadists and kidnappers are our enemies and nobody will be sorry if they are shot...

Even those that secretly support them will never dare to publicly sing 'Shekau is another saviour'

chiagozien:
So deciding to rest on Sunday and Monday is endorsing criminality and terrorism?

How many days do government employees work and rest?

He should also force them to work from Monday to Saturday.

There is no place in this world where people rest on Monday, sabotaging the economic development of a region and altering the educational rhythm of children is nothing but criminal.

Anybody who tries to normalize it and make it seem ok and reasonable must be either a coward or a very lazy human being.

chiagozien:
But how did their personal decisions on their personal businesses become a problem?

Endorsing criminality and terrorism is everybody's business.