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Majority of Igbos in Lagos are traders, they are in Lagos because of the huge market base and opportunity it offers them.

So you should ask yourself whether you have any market share to give them at 'home' to match the one they get elsewhere.

If not, do you have any other employment to offer them aside from trade?

It is the culture itself that is the problem, the entire culture needs to be restructured.

The South East has officially become ghettocized...

Drug trafficking, fraud, kidnapping, no snitching policy.

It will get to a stage where any Igbo man that wants to have a stable life must leave the South East.

After putting Trump inside Epstein wahala.

This Elon Musk has mood swings.

Good and we all know the specific set of criminals behind this.

Hint: They are always quick to call every crime the result of hunger inflicted by Tinubu.

The usual suspects

What a great movie

Oh, now he speaks against your people he is talkative?

When he spoke against Reno and NAFDAC he wasnt talkative.

Its either kidnapping gone wrong or she was trying to escape an evil madam and entered something.

Putinofrussia:
I heard there was one other Kalu who did one million match against the mandate of Abiola.
Wickedness in DNA.

That one was Daniel KaNU rhymes with Nnamdi KaNU. They might even be related.

Wow it ranked El Rufai higher than Alex Otti despite all the alleged South Kaduna killings that happened under his tenure, so what does that say about Otti and Labour Party?

Its becoming hard to keep track of all these Kalu

We have Orji Uzor Kalu
We have Benjamin Kalu (the stupid bill passer)
Now we have Emeka Kalu

So he never revealed the name of his buyers

Nawa o, we don't have mercy for wildlife in this country.

See how innocent hippo just got souped for nothing

ProudlyLagos:
isn’t the answer quite obvious? Our Almajiri blodas from across the Niger they have all deserted their region and claim to deverop everywhere but their region

They are also highly intolerant, this bill would give Fulani Herdsmen and other Muslims legal right in their region so how would it benefit them.

So after all the pogroms and sharia slaughter of Igbos, it is Yorubas that is their problem.

This is how Azikiwe antagonized Awolowo and formed alliance with Balewa in the end they had to kill Balewa.

I'm even trying to understand who that bill would benefit

July 29th 1966 was not a coup, it was a mutiny, it only became a coup when Gowon was installed as Head of State.

mrvitalis:
How did Igbos get to the North, how did they end up in those positions? Especially when you look at the fact that in the early 1900 most Clarks and civil servants where Hausa/Fulani

Like someone already pointed out, there was no Igbo clerks/civil servants in the North prior to amalgamation. It was mostly during the British colonization that some Igbos gained positions in the North. After colonization ended most of the British positions were suddenly picked up by Igbos, this is what Northernization aimed to put an end to.

Majority of Igbos in the North post independence were traders and despite seeing all the anti-Igbo propaganda flying around they couldnt predict the weather and leave - that shows you just how dependent Igbos had become on trade at that point.

Amumaigwe:
Igbo apprenticeship system has been adopted by Harvard University as a classical measure they recommend for poverty eradication and wealth redistribution.
Argue with them

Apprenticeship by itself is not a bad thing, it has worked for centuries, and exists in many part of the world.

The problem is apprenticeship system that teaches nothing other than trade, how sustainable is that in the face of modern economy?

Mind you the popular Harvard Business School article praising apprenticeship system was written by none other than an Igbo man (makes one question the authenticity of the report)

shortgun:
So let me get this straight. A people devastated by war, stripped of assets, denied access to federal support and politically sidelined still managed to rebuild themselves through trade, self-reliance and enterprise…..and your complaint is that they didn’t stay in the village to farm yams and vegetables for your comfort?
It’s pathetic, really. Igbos aren’t in power, yet you blame them for your failures.
They’re not writing your policies, not holding your oil blocks, not controlling your budgets but they’re still your biggest fear?
This not politics anymore it's envy and hate on steroids.
Shame no dey catch una

The war would probably not have happened if there weren't so many Igbos in the North and there wouldn't have been so many Igbos in the North if they didnt destabilize their region to embrace a trade culture.

mrvitalis:
Onitsha is an Igbo City, Enugu, owerri, Aba
There is nothing you can build in Lagos that would not thrive in those cities... No body said take it to your village

You still havent answered the question of who will bell the cat?

When every Igbo man's dream is to be an Ogaranya in his own shop with his boy boy, who will do the building?

stonemasonn:
I thought it was the other way round...............

We have examples of nomadic cultures...

We have Fulanis in the Northern Nigeria (and other parts of West Africa), we have the Mongols in North/East Asia, we have Bedouin in the Middle East.

In almost all cases the Nomadic tribes usually assimilated into the culture of their hosts and usually became a respected and integral part of that society.

The same could not be said about trader tribes like the Jews in Europe or the Armenians in the Ottoman Empire. Mind you despite having centuries to assimilate.

DarlingtonC:
You don't have a point. #fact

My point is in the widespread Igbo crimes happening in Nigeria, Ghana, South Africa, Phillipines and India.

Where you have lots of Igbo traders you will have lots of trade crimes.

mrvitalis:
Oga all they can do is what they are currently doing

Them no born their papa well to attack igbos... That stuff ended in 2006

The only thing igbos need to do is to bring 90% of their profit back Home... Don't invest in your host communities... Nah they don't like that... Just build a regular house because I know we hate rent... Own your business shop then send the rest back home

But the ultimate goal for every Igbo man should be to manufacture what you sale in Ala Igbo... Produce in Igbo land and sell all over the world

Send the rest back home for who? The people in the village are equally fantasizing about coming to Lagos too, so you would have to encourage them to stay in the village and use the money your sending to build up the place, while you live in what they perceive to be a better place (goodluck with that).

Based on what ive seen so far the only thing produced in Igbo land are usually fake products / knockoff items, i don't doubt that there are lots of good businesses there, but those businesses hardly cross the region.

maiunguwar:
Manufacturing culture is good, but you still need traders to market your goods

Yes but you don't need an entire major tribe of them.

shortgun:
[b]Really? So we should now demonize ambition to make Igbos look bad
The Igbos didn’t abandon farming they diversified. Unlike groups who sat around waiting for colonial leftovers the Igbos adapted, embraced trade, industry and built businesses from scratch... even in hostile environments. I think they should be applauded.

I don't think people should be applauded for destabilizing their region's economy by abandoning their main produce for centuries and becoming dependent on other regions.

DarlingtonC:
See mentality.

The Igbo trade culture is one of the enablers of seamless supply chain globally.

In fact, you take that advise yourself. Don't engage in any form of trade (either buying or selling), so we see that your wisdom in action.

People go just dey open mouth waaaaaaaa

*Igbos need to embrace a manufacturing culture and completely do away with trade culture*

For this your statement I highlighted, which school did you graduate from?

If you manufacture am finish, pack am inside your room

I'm not saying we don't need traders, i'm saying we don't need much of them especially a country like Nigeria that doesnt even manufacture much.

At the end of the day you have lots of traders with nothing to trade except fake products or illegal products.

I think every single problem caused by Igbos began the day when Igbos abandoned farming and hunting and embraced trade with the British.

Trade culture requires constant seeking for new markets and customers, this is why there are Igbos everywhere, its practically impossible for Igbos to stay one place even if they wanted to, if Igbos were a minority it might be possible.

Another problem with trade dependence is the lack of adaptation, just imagine a nwaboy who has spent all his life as an apprentice, when it was finally time for him to be independent the market crashed. What other trade could he possibly do with his skillset? - Only crime is available to him especially trader crimes i.e. fraud, drug trafficking etc.

Igbos need to embrace a manufacturing culture and completely do away with trade culture.

Ps: Trade culture and nomadic culture have a lot in common but nomadic culture usually forces one to adapt to the land and therefore the culture of the land, trade culture does not do the same.

You will never understand the Bible properly unless you separate the old testament from the new testament.

They are two separate Gods with some similarities

YAHWEH'S ECONOMIC POLICY


Now that Yahweh had successfully conquered Ala Igbo, he needed to provide an economic system to sustain the people lest they rebel against him.

Under Chukwu's administration, the way of life was very simple;

First you had the hunters who hunted and found meat for the community, they were also the soldiers of the community.

Next you had the farmers, who planted and harvested crops for the community.

You also had the artisan class - hairdressers, musicians, dancers, sculptors, weavers etc.

Yahweh at this point was a newly installed tyrant...

He had spent considerable resources condemning Chukwu in the eyes of the masses.

He could not be seen using the same economic system of Chukwu (although it worked for a thousand years) that would make him a hypocrite.

Yahweh needed his own system.

Now there's one fact about Yahweh you must know.

Yahweh is a trader by profession.

In Genesis 18:24-33, we see Yahweh and Abraham haggle price concerning the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah. Yahweh inflated the price to 50 people but Abraham priced it down to 10 people.

In Genesis 25:29-34, we see Jacob (who was later called Israel) haggle and purchase his brother's birth right in exchange for some stew.

In Genesis 41:54-57, we see Joseph (who was not Egyptian) store Egyptian grain and sell it back to the Egyptians for a much higher price.

But the best evidence of Yahweh's profession comes from the book of Matthew 25:14-30...

In this parable a servant was specifically punished for refusing to invest his master's money. He kept the money and returned it back without spending a dime and he was punished for it.

Matthew 25:26-27

[26]“ ‘You bad and lazy servant!’ his master said. ‘You knew, did you, that I reap harvests where I did not sow, and gather crops where I did not scatter seed?
[27]Well, then, you should have deposited my money in the bank, and I would have received it all back with interest when I returned.

Yahweh does not like to do any meaningful work that actually produces something, instead he takes profit of things that other peoples have built and worked for, by his own admission he likes to 'reap harvests where he did not sow'.

With this in mind, what sort of economy do you think Yahweh would bestow upon his newly made subjects?

Obviously trade, but trade alone cannot sustain a population especially a large population like Ala Igbo.

And so you end up with an economic situation where the people are forced to leave and constantly search for newer and better trade opportunities.

The families that lived in Ala Igbo for centuries, eating together, fighting together, laughing together, sharing stories together; could no longer sustain each other anymore unless they moved out, completely abandoning their region and home.

And despite all this, they still love Yahweh.

This is truly Yahweh's economic miracle.

Slytiger:
Igbos can only gaslight weak people.

But Ebonyi people are not Yorubas though