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Culture › Re: The Official Isoko Thread! All Isoko People Should Post Here. by darfay: 12:25am On Aug 11, 2019
Efewestern:
Urhobo is not a dialect of Isoko, refer to the above reply for better understanding.



This issue of locals not speaking the Isoko dialects is not limited to them alone as most minorities are battling with the same problem, but in rural communities they communicate freely with the Isoko language, the Uzere dialect is the standard Isoko language.
The isoko language is a small one, so it's quite uniform everywhere... I really don't think of it as having a standard, but the Bible was written in Aviara tongue
Culture › Re: The Official Isoko Thread! All Isoko People Should Post Here. by darfay: 12:18am On Aug 11, 2019
fratermathy:
Isoko is not a dialect of Urhobo and vice versa. Isoko is an equal member with Urhobo in the Edoid language family. However, Urhobo, Isoko, Okpe, Erhowa and Uvwie all form a cluster which can be effectively called the Urhobo-Isoko languages cluster or what Ben Elugbe called Southwestern Edoid languages. The oldest language in this cluster, which also happens to be the most threatened language in terms of its number of speakers, is Erhowa. Indeed, many linguists believe that all the languages in the Urhobo-Isoko cluster evolved from Erhowa, which in turn evolved from a proto-Edoid language.

Despite the fact that Isoko and Urhobo are distinct languages in their own rights, they are 80% similar in grammar, vocabulary, and phonology. Differences in both languages become greater the farther you move from the collective center of Iyede-Evwreni-Enwhe. In the towns I just listed, Urhobo and Isoko are almost the same as speakers here can communicate with each other without qualms. However, when you move from this center and go farther towards Ozoro and Oleh, the dialects become deeper and the average Urhobo man may not understand what is said completely. The same scenario plays out when the Isoko man is confronted with Uvwie, Okpe and to some extent, Ughievwen and Udu.


Erhowa is not a dialect of Isoko, just as Okpe and Uvwie are not really dialects of Urhobo. However, those who speak the languages identify as Isoko or Urhobo, as the case may be. This identification has led to the situation where their languages are treated as dialects. It is this identification that also led to the idea that Isoko is a dialect of Urhobo. Realistically, they are all in a language cluster in which common words, grammar, vocabulary and culture are shared. Each of the languages has its own dialects and units too. For the sake of expediency, Okpe and Uvwie are usually treated as variant languages under Urhobo while Erhowa is treated as a variant language under Isoko.


Furthermore, since central Urhobo (Agbarho-Ughelli dialect) is virtually understood by all members of the Urhobo-Isoko cluster, Urhobo has become the overarching language and thus, takes the role as the unifying tongue that connects all. Again, Isoko gained socio-political identity from the Urhobos, with whom they shared common heritage, historical and socio-political identity prior to 1958 when an Isoko division was created by the then Western Regional Government as a punishment to the Urhobos who didn't support Awolowo's party. It was a move that sought to reduce the perceived importance and numerical strength of the Urhobos. Attempts were also made to create Okpe and Uvwie divisions which would have seen Okpe and Uvwie as separate ethnic groups but the Okpe and Uvwie people did not see any sense in it and did not support the move. They had invested too much in the Urhobo identity for them to establish a distinct ethnic identity. Furthermore, the Isoko division was possible because many of the Isoko elite then already held resentments for their perceived marginalisation by Urhobo leaders. They felt that Urhobos were trying to swallow their identity. It was against this backdrop that they left the Eastern Urhobo division. Ironically, the Isoko language is going extinct at a much higher rate than Okpe and Uvwie who remained with Urhobo and whose languages have been preserved in many forms via collective efforts from the Urhobo nation.

Because of the creation of Isoko division, the Isoko Development Union was formed to cater for the Isokos who no longer partook in Urhobo Progress Union. Isokos started to switch from the Ughelli Urhobo dialect which was gaining popularity to the Uzere dialect which is now the central Isoko language. Many other changes occurred that all culminated in the birth of Isoko as an ethnic group. Because of how Isoko evolved from a language into an ethnicity, many people still consider it as a sub-group of Urhobo and therefore, that the language is a dialect of Urhobo. While it is true that the people and their culture are 100% Urhoboid, the language is regarded by scholars as a distinct Edoid language. However, this categorisation is also new and was done by Ben Elugbe, a non-Urhobo-Isoko scholar and so one can argue that it is a personal view. Unfortunately, many other Urhobo and Isoko scholars have authenticated the categorisation in their works.
Nawa o

Which kind lie b this

Please isoko people do/did not speak any urhobo dialect at any point in time, so I don't understand the rubbish about agbarho dialect being a unifying tongue between isoko and urhobo
Culture › Re: The Official Isoko Thread! All Isoko People Should Post Here. by darfay: 12:12am On Aug 11, 2019
Efewestern:
You tried, but you should also learn spelling in Isoko as I can see some errors with the spellings, as for your last question, Isoko was formally part of the Urhobo nation until 1961 when Awolowo gave them a separate identity, The language remains a Key branch of Edoid languages and is also classified as an Urhobo language, the language shares close similarities with the Okpe and Uvwie dialect of Urhobo, I myself understands 90% of what you just submitted.

For example,

Ki"die hwiere - What's wrong / What's happening (General Urhobo)
Eme' wo / Eme' Soni - What's Wrong (Uvwie Dialect of urhobo)
Eme' wo - What's wrong (Isoko)

So the language is a combination of sub Urhobo dialects.

Cc: fratermathy, suggestions or contribution
Eme via
Culture › Re: Words From The Epie Language Of Yenagoa. by darfay: 11:58pm On Aug 10, 2019
Sinistami:
see...This thread was made for the Epie language, I didn't make it for you people to be dragging igbo this and that here so please stop this nonsense.
That is how this iPod pigs act. They wait for minority tribes to create a thread before discussing ikwerre/ukwale/agbor vs igbo all the time.

A majority tribe that has no idea what to do with their huge number, you can't find hausas or yorubaz in such petty stupidity

What a shame

Cc lalasticlala please clean up the thread
Politics › Re: Pictures Of Rochas Son In-law Uche Nwosu House And Street In Gwarimpa Abuja. by darfay: 5:37pm On Aug 09, 2019
C street in a posh area of Abuja....

Third World country
NYSC › Re: Ogun Corper Stopped From Clearance For Converting Her NYSC Khaki To Skirt by darfay: 3:48pm On Aug 03, 2019
We should respect her religion
Celebrities › Re: Dino Melaye, E-money, Escoba Smith, Shina Peller Cracked Up At Funnybone Concert by darfay: 11:52am On Jul 26, 2019
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Events › Re: Friends Fake Their Friend's Arrest With The Police To Wish Him Happy Birthday by darfay: 11:52am On Jul 26, 2019
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Politics › Re: I Don’t Believe That Leah Sharibu Is Dead - Shehu Sani by darfay: 11:30am On Jul 26, 2019
MistadeRegal:
shocked shocked shocked

What if I tell you I never knew I quoted you?
May I never lose it!!

Please rewrite the comment. I never had any intention of quoting you.
Oga I'm sorry to announce to you that you have the Muhammadu buhari senile syndrome
Politics › Re: I Don’t Believe That Leah Sharibu Is Dead - Shehu Sani by darfay: 11:13am On Jul 26, 2019
MistadeRegal:
Between you a free man and someone currently in the captor's enclave, who will know better?
I never said his comment was either right or wrong
Celebrities › Re: Darey Art Alade Poses With Akon (Photo) by darfay: 11:11am On Jul 26, 2019
This picture would greatly improve our GDP and reduce unemployment
Politics › Re: Vincent Ofumelu Visits Goodluck Jonathan (Photos) by darfay: 11:06am On Jul 26, 2019
How is this news?
Politics › Re: I Don’t Believe That Leah Sharibu Is Dead - Shehu Sani by darfay: 11:05am On Jul 26, 2019
This country is a joke
Politics › Re: ‘South-West Leading In Developmental Strides’ by darfay: 11:04am On Jul 26, 2019
Without stats?

Are we supposed to just take his words for it?
Politics › Re: Police Killed The Channels TV Reporter Just To Tarnish Our Image - Shi'ites by darfay: 8:52pm On Jul 23, 2019
This makes no sense at all as the said group in question has no image to protect
Crime › Re: 43-Year-Old Widower Impregnates His 13-Year-Old Daughter by darfay: 6:15pm On Jul 22, 2019
This family tree just got more confusing
Phones › Re: Shoelace: Google Unveils New Social Media Platform by darfay: 5:14pm On Jul 22, 2019
Yet our very own Nairaland has refused to innovate for donkey years



TrollKiller:
American Peeps keeps making new innovations everyday

Nigerian peeps keep borrowing and loading Airtime to vote for their favourite BBN housemate.

An american youth will see rain and will go out and plant yams and potatoes.
A Nigerian youth will see rain and you'll see him shouting "Weather for two! Weather for two!!"

Tell me how Nigeria will move forward sad
Politics › Re: We're Well Prepared To Defend Ourselves– Herdsmen Vow Not To Relocate From South by darfay: 2:03pm On Jul 20, 2019
Normadic lifestyle in 2019
Sports › Re: Odion Ighalo Finally Speaks On His Retirement From Super Eagle National Team by darfay: 11:30am On Jul 20, 2019
I know he can be very wasteful but truth be told, he is one of our all time best, with a conversion rate of. 0.4 goals per match






PS I know onuachu is young but that dude needs to retire
Education › Re: 215 Bag First Class As Covenant University Graduates 1,580 by darfay: 10:51am On Jul 20, 2019
Wizklynd23:
215 First Class

Are they just awarding them or what I don't get it
Goan collect yours na, if it's that easy
Education › Re: 215 Bag First Class As Covenant University Graduates 1,580 by darfay: 10:50am On Jul 20, 2019
Over 10%, nice
Education › Re: Motunrayo Ajia: Covenant University CGPA 5.0, All Time Best Graduating Student by darfay: 10:03pm On Jul 19, 2019
While some mumu public uni's still dey do A is for God..... Haq haq haq. Dey don't know waiz goinon



Congrats to the lady
Politics › Re: Buhari: Bayelsa With 8, Kano 44 LGAs Have Equal Senators Shows Fairness by darfay: 4:24pm On Jul 19, 2019
Wisdom does not truly come with age
Politics › Re: Ruga: Zamfara State Approves 300 Hectares Of Land For RUGA Settlement by darfay: 7:28pm On Jul 15, 2019
Tolexander:
Let anything Ruga stay in the north!

The same Zamfara State still struggling to have a state university.
Thank God for Goodluck Jonathan, Zamfara won’t be having any university.

So quick to establish Ruga settlements but slow in liberating her people from illiteracy.
Shwooo.
Na Wetin conzen almajiri with school?
Politics › Re: Leaked Conversation Between Zamfara Emir & Masked Fulani Herdsman by darfay: 7:03pm On Jul 15, 2019
Hausa almajiris and Fulani bandits dey fight so Wetin conzen oz there?


One Arewastan

One nijeriya
Sports › Re: AFCON 2019 Final: Senegal Vs Algeria On Friday 19th July By 8pm by darfay: 12:24pm On Jul 14, 2019
Luckyroro:
The Teranga Lions face the Desert Foxes for the final match of AFCON 2019.
That's even the date for the third place match
Education › Re: Noble Chibueze Eyisi Graduates With First Class In UK After UNIZIK Suspension by darfay: 1:49am On Jul 11, 2019
Congratulations young man and better stay over there in a society that works........... But una c as we dey useless ourselves for this country?
Politics › Re: See What Each Nigerian State Is Owing, The Biggest And Least Debtors by darfay: 4:20pm On Jul 10, 2019
The situation of some states are really pathetic and I wonder what sensible financial institution would lend them money
Politics › Re: See What Each Nigerian State Is Owing, The Biggest And Least Debtors by darfay: 4:18pm On Jul 10, 2019
EmekusTHEgreat:
Anambra owes the 2nd least at 33b. Considering that the state also has one of the least poverty percentiles in the federation, I think it's satisfactory..
Considering the fact that the former governor left no debt for the state. But rather savings and investment
My brother this is something to worry about
Politics › Re: Give Us Sambisa Forest, We Don't Need RUGA - Fulani Herdsmen by darfay: 12:09am On Jul 07, 2019
cool
orisa37:
You are Immigrants in Nigeria. You don't have ascentral land. Sambisa belongs the NE Nigerians.
please o, on behalf of sambisa, we donate the North East #in the voice of the legendary Pepe]
Education › Re: Stranded UNILAG Students Seen Pushing Their Bus After Being Abandoned In Benin by darfay: 11:59pm On Jul 06, 2019
All whole university of first choice

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