₦airaland Forum

@OP, both businesses are good and lucrative. But you have to consider some things before making a choice.

Are you in a good location? Citing either of the businesses in a choice location will tell the profitability. From your description of how you intend to start large, then if you are in a high rise city like lag, abj or ph, then you are good to go.

Personally, I'll recommend the makeup center because starting a resturant is tough. A lot of expenses will go in and you may not make money as anticipated. Talking about constant electricity, fuel and also considering the high cost of foodstuff now. I recently went to a fastfood that increased their price from N1k to N1,500. Not a single person was there.

Makeup has more prospects especially in training. Lots of these big babes and wives of politicians can pay a fortune for one lousy makeup

Also, with time you can get your own branded products to push into the market. Research house of tara to understand this more.

My 2 cents.

olamilekan360:
I was recently duped of 30k on the account of my company Adebola Recreation Center, Lagos branch in the course of sourcing to meet with Mr Seun Osewa of Nairaland on an urgent business proposal... And just week again I met this dude online with the name Oluwaseun Osewa claiming he owns Nairaland... different from Mr Seun's picture that I've see. online.. I decided to put this up and see if anyone recodnise him... plus i dont mind if theres anyone that can link me up with Mr Seun...

If you want to speak with Seun, send him an email. He will reply you. You dont need "agents".

Good job guys, now am officially hooked to this thread.

lecturerdabo:
FACTS!!!

One needs to start expecting the worst.

"IN MONTHS TO COME, A TOYOTA CAMRY WOULD BE OFFERED FOR N50.000 JUST TO FEED THE FAMILY

In 1984, just months after the military takeover by General Buhari, the country ground to a halt; just like today! He came with the same song-and-dance: THEY ARE CORRUPT!!

In a matter of months, mothers were selling their jewellery to send their children to school. Thieves were stealing food at gun point, just like today.

Within months, there simply was NO FOOD. The government gathered the little there was and restricted purchases.

Whether you were 100 or ONE in your family, every household had a card with which they went to military manned cooperatives to purchase rationed, “essential commodities”.

These included Rice, Beans, Yam, Bread, Milk, Sugar, and so on. Everything was rationed. It was war-time in peace-time!! Nigeria became like Somalia.

We lived like refugees.

And of course, a lot of children were simply pulled out of schools because feeding was priority number ONE! Going to school became a luxury, even for middle class families.

And ANDREWS & JANES started checking out.

People suddenly remembered they had British and American passports, and simply left the country!

Those who are not aware of all these, ask anyone who was born on or before 1984. They should be old enough to remember. It was that harrowing.

The most baffling aspect of all this was that, the people he said were corrupt and stealing, were presiding over an economy where the Naira was 1:1 with the US Dollar, and N2 to £1 Sterling!

An economy where we were buying Volkswagen Beetle at N400 from Volkswagen of Nigeria. An economy where my entire family, all 7 of us, travelled for summer hols on tickets purchased for N280 and BTA of N400 (official – we managed to sneak more out for shopping naaa).

An economy where everything was robust and vibrant and growing. Then a man comes in and says he took over because people were corrupt and he needed to sanitise things.

In a matter of months, the Dollar was N15 and the Sterling was N40. A VW Beetle sold for N8,000 (up from N400) and that N8,000 simply was not available anywhere!

Children dropped out of school, businesses closed, parents became destitute, food was NOT available and we queued for rations at cooperatives like refugees in a warring country!!!

Fast forward to 2015!! The same man comes with the same song-and-dance.

We tried to remind our peers and elders of those days, and we tried to educate the younger ones.

However, the wind of change, that wind that always tells us that the grass is greener on the other side, deafened them all!

And once again, within months, everything that happened in 1984 and 1985 Y THING – is all being repeated.

I have just come from a home where my friends have owed two terms’ school fees. They have just made the difficult decision to leave Abuja, relocate back to their village and take the two younger children out of school, at least temporarily.

The older boy will stay with friends and they will use the savings on rent and the likes to try and get him across the line (WAEC).

Feeding is now a major task. Infact, people are complaining of their kitchens and farms being raided for food – DAILY!!

Yet again, this is happening just months after Buhari takes over with screams of corruption and stealing.

Corruption and stealing, yet that my family friend who was not corrupt, not stealing and not anywhere close to the corridors of power was paying his rent, feeding his family and sending all three children to school.

Corruption and stealing yet businesses were opening daily, economy was vibrant, people were healthy, GDP was growing and so on!

In 1985, we were rescued by IBB and Dogonyaro. Immediately, people experienced a reversal.

Within a very short time, the cooperatives closed, food became abundant again, the Naira stabilised, mothers stopped selling their jewellery, and so on. It makes one wonder!

If there were no reference points, Buharists may claim that “if only he had been president”, but the mid-80s proved that the worst period in Nigeria’s history were the 20-odd months he was in power, sandwiched between two periods of plenty and growth.

Therefore, they cannot bring the argument that today’s sufferings and impoverishment were the fault of the past regime – because we will counter with “TAKE HIM OUT NOW LIKE IBB DID IN 1985 AND SEE IF BY THIS CHRISTMAS, YOU WILL NOT BE SMILING AGAIN.

Someone told me today that he predicts that by this Xmas or next Easter at the latest, a person will come and offer a Toyota Camry in exchange for N50,000, just so that his family can eat and make merry over the holidays!!

Nigerians simply don't refer to history! And I have run out of every single drop of sympathy in my body.

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stagger:
Let me issue a VERY STRONG WARNING to Jasi7 and others like him here. Some of us have worked hard on that site for years to build it. Back then in 2009, Nigerians were hardly allowed on Elance, never on oDesk. Elance came to Lagos in 2011 where I and a few others were given invitations to speak at that event in Victoria Island. We opened the way for Nigerians to work there.

What I will not stand for, is for a few persons to use their criminal, nefarious ways to damage our reputation further and ruin a genuine opportunity for other upcoming Nigerians on Upwork, AND STILL COME HERE TO DEFEND THEIR ACTIONS!

No, enough of that rubbish. I will reiterate it again. If ever Upwork bans Nigerians from that site, I will personally put a call across to a few of their team members who were in Lagos in 2011 and assist them to fish out every single person with a false identity and get them arrested and prosecuted. Nobody will perform criminal actions on that site and come here to insult me for raising eyebrows about this. I would rather that person rot in jail.

Enough is enough!

@stagger, don't stress youself with people who don't get it and cant comprehend. Truth is some people are so dumb and keep causing problems for others. I feared some dumb people will come along and give me stress at the end of the day, and they actually came. It was a mistake opening this thread. Am out.

Lets talk privately if you dont mind.

Cheers.

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Gudiza:
Saw and followed this thread earlier in the week hoping to read it when I had the opportunity. Was about to say well done OP for creating this wonderful empowerment opportunity for youths, but.......I have to say suggesting we use, or the use of Foreign IPs, Photos etc is NOT legal.i.e. ILLEGAL..Get it Right and Do Not Kill Your Conscience! I mean, this expressly violates the terms and conditions for registering on UPWORK declared on the website if you ever bother to read anything -- which you AGREED to uphold BTW.

That said, I want to encourage and tell good Nigerians that you should not be bothered about all what we Nigerians say about ourselves. It is true there is a lot of cyber criminality about these parts and it might seem we're disadvantaged in some aspects when starting out, but, at the same time, it is general to a very large extent. Hence, let us not feel boxed into a corner.

Just be ready to work hard. If you keep focused, it will start rolling in. I registered on Upwork myself last year 2015 as an experiment, completed my profile and two exams which I passed well. Stayed like that for a while (maybe 1 or 2 months) and began to get invites for interviews without even doing any bidding. Same story with Fiverr, Freelancer..

I strongly advice you desist from towing the path of illegality, hope you all know that Upwork reserves the right to arbitrarily request verification from anyone at anytime. What would you do when you rake up that $$$$ with your fake picture, addresses, phone no and then get blocked till you provide some ID & bank Statement or even worse, permanently suspended?

Remember this because once you go down that rabbit hole there's only one outcome at the end which is more and more frustration!

Thanks for your advice, but this is the risk some of us are willing to take. While it lasts, we hope to earn some money (also by working hard) and improve our personal economic situation which the government has totally failed to do. And before you talk about legality, don't you think it is totally illegal for PayPal to keep collecting our money without allowing us receive payments??

Fraud or not, Nigerians are one of the largest internet spenders in Africa and legal binding guys like you and the Nigerian government can do absolutely nothing to force PayPal to do the needful. If we can accept payments with our PayPal accounts, do you think we will be looking to cut corners just to earn money we intend to work hard for?

Let's face facts. You may be good at what you do, but how many Americans will be willing to work with you especially for the first time as a Nigerian? Are you telling us it is that easy?? You may have the patience BUT others do not have the patience. If you make the money, fine. If you get banned, fine. Life goes on.

But spending 3 years with just $200 earned?? No way. There is a lot we need to accomplish in life than spend 10 years trying to earn $500. If you have no day job or side business (and have a family), you will feel the pain of others struggling with online freelancing.

Cheers.

lgboks:

wow nice thread
please if as a newbie, what do i need to learn before venturing into this upwork stuff?
what necessary skill will i develop or learn?
can i use my phone or a computer system is required...

I really can't tell you what skill you will learn. It's up to you. And yes a computer is required.

@All, the training tutorial is now ready (and explosive). Email me to obtain a copy.

Jasi7:
I just checked my mail to see a warning from upwork saying the image I uploaded is not a true likeness of me...what does that mean?...to say the truth I used fakenamegenerator and I got the pic from the web though...a female name with SSN,DOB and the rest plus a female pic from the net

Upload the pic here plus the name so i take a look.

Those of you interested in learning how to optimize your upwork account and start earning money right from the first week, I have put together a training manual (very detailed) for your use. After purchasing it, you will be enrolled in a special WhatsApp group for further private discussion session, to guide you as you progress.

The training manual plus WhatsApp group mentorship is N5000. Please don't tell me it's much as this is worth my time and every information I will be dishing out.

Email me at nwakstar2020@gmail.com for details.

lgboks:

wow nice thread
please if as a newbie, what do i need to learn before venturing into this upwork stuff?
what necessary skill will i develop or learn?
can i use my phone or a computer system is required...

Those are things I will teach you if you enroll for the training.

See first post for details.

fxbot:
Make sense. I will pay 5,000 for your skype training but that will be end of the month as I am trying to make a home office rennovation for myself and thereafter I shall have time to start serious work on my projects. I pray make dollar don reach N500 before my high $x,Bleep wey i dey expect land lol.

I took the writing test at upwork sometime ago and was rated 3.50. Isn't that poor? As for those telling you about no money, they do not know the value of information yet. Did they tell such stories to the schools they attended or they paid to get educated?

In another arm, I will be paying my close friend 50k to teach me something. I had to do this to get his attention because I know what I hope to gain from him which is worth Millions of naira because he kept telling me to be patient, patient, patient... and the year is almost ending. So I said bro, you are my friend and brother, but let me pay you 50k in return for your time and knowledge. I know it peanut but at least, let me show I value what you want to share with me as well as your time so it does not look like you are doing it for free.

So you see?

3.5 is rated among top 20% and it's above average. Display it on your profile.

MULLAH123:
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What network do you use?

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rozayx5:

Thats a jackpot client. If you can land this client, its usually gonna be a long term contract.

stagger:
How much are you charging?

Just N2000. Taking place on Skype hopefully on Sunday.

MULLAH123:
Good morning, please i jst completed my frst job and the client gave me a review and ended the contract, i saw where it says i have to write a review bfor i can see hers, i've written mine but upto now i no de see that one.

Dont worry, you'll see your reviews in a few days time. Upwork is waiting to see if any dispute will come up. Same for her too. She wont see yours for a few days.

Congrats mate!

Emmyk:
@,Op, lol. But I met a British man before, he had spent over $210,000 on Upwork as at that time. He was looking for Testers In Nigeria.
I applied, and he gave me a link to fill some details, I didn't know this was the real work. After filling, I got back, he promised the real work was coming soon. Since that time till now, he keeps saying in 2 weeks time, 2 weeks time. I did free work for him.

Another Lady this Saturday, I rewrote an Article for her, she said she would use a software on her system to check, she did, and the system said what I did rewrote had 5 issues; that was how she went, not giving me s chance to correct.

My brother, it is something we all have to deal with. The only 100% sure way to get your money is if you do hourly work. But most times, we can avoid this by chosing the clients we go for. Other times it just happens and we have to move on.

Just 3 days ago, a client ran away with my $45. Wetin I go do na? We just have to keep trying and pray we meet the good ones.

The thing is, if you meet one client that will keep you on retainer, you wont even remember being duped.

I call this job hazards.

stagger:
Bros, we no go cook the food and at the same time put am for your mouth, chew am for you come digest am again on top.

There are 25 banks in Nigeria. Receive the grace to boldly select one,step out of your house and enter there to find out their account opening requirements. Every bank has dollars and pounds. If one branch does not have, move to another branch. Eventually you will know which branch always has.

Welcome on board sire.

Turn out for the traning is amazing.

Pidggin:
Upwork only works for few, diversification is important

Explain please.

Pidggin:
I think you will find things harder if you use a Nigerian IP. Our people have destroyed our online reputation, sometimes I wish I was from another country

The more Nigerians and Indians spamming online sites the more difficult they make it for genuine people.

Learn a skill and use it to offer good service. You will get clients

True talk.

Where are the pros in the house?

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stagger:
No mind am. He was on the other thread. Now he is here. Pay for ad they will not. Use th advert thread, no way. Ishh!

Lol.

Meanwhile you nor wan contribute for that thread bah? I dey hear your story say you be boss oh.

Hypelegion:
Good morning,
my team and i designed a freelance website like upwork, though its in beta testing stage, i would really appreciate it if you guys can check it out and give me your feedback. Its 100% Nigerian, so most of these issues with the foreign ones are not there

Www.hypelegion.com

Thank you

Oga, biko stop doing this. NL has an advert section.

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zeke100:
Thank you for finding it worthy to share some of your ideas with felllow Nigerians.
This is my profile link which i ensure its 100% complete and still not approved.

http://www.upwork.com/o/profiles/users/_~01d5e691aa68ffcf2d/

pls help by checking it out.

Thank you

cc: databoy247, mullah123

It says page does not exist. I really cant understand why some people get such issues. Any account i open with upwork gets approved in seconds.

If there are other Upworkers in the house, they should come in lets discuss the best proposals. How do you package yours?