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true2god:
The first country to build a war capable submarine and medium range ballistic missile and a fighter jet is Germany. The first country to deploy them in war is Germany. The Germans had a bad experience in world war two when Russia, Britain, the US, Canada etc combined to crush them and eventually split them into the west and east Germany.

Germany is not Nigeria or Ghana.

I don't think you even understand me. No body is doubting the prowess of the Germans. All I am saying is the Germans are not into weapons manufacturing like before. They're not into war as a business for now. They produce luxury products and that's where they pump their research money into. Just like North Korean pumping all their money into long range Ballistic missiles that can carry nuclear heads. Everyone now has a priority and war is not one for the Germans now.

Blackmann001:
If that happens and the US pulls out of Europe, then Europe will be taken over by Russia.....

They will b a colony of Kremlin...... I pity eroupe and short sightedness

I don't think Russia can easily over run Europe. It looks easy on paper but I don't see it happening easily

Openbusiness:
Currency IS NOT MORE VALUABLE than the Military protecting it. Your currency is as valuable as the wars you can win. When you fight war and lose, your currency diminishes. Right now, America is the one defending and protecting like 90% of Europe. They are lame ducks without America. People are not accepting dollars as a global exchange in the global economy because of decoration or because they like the faces printed on the notes. Dollar controls the global economy because the world fought 2 World Wars and the USA came out on top of the food war chain as having the most powerful military in the world. Economy and Miliary Power go together. In this world, with a weak military, even if your local economy is excellent, another country with a stronger military will invade and steal and plunder your economy and conquer your resources. And that's why every country in the world has their own military to protect themselves or has a pact with a military that can defend them. A farmer has a farm with crops = good local economy = strong currency, but he doesn't have strong security. One day killer Fulani herdsmen invades his farm, destroy crops, destroy land, kill farmers = economy crashed = value is gone = weak currency. Or a cow herder with 3000 cows in the North, grazing in the field = good local economy = valuable currency, but he doesn't have strong security. One day cattle rustlers or bandits or boko terrorists invade his grazing fields, rustle the cows, burn the field, kill the herders = value is gone = weak currency. So your economic value is only as strong as the military protecting it. Without America (aka American taxpayers money) protecting most of Europe, the EU currency will be weak, despite the EU currency being a transnational currency. America dollar derives from just one country. Euro derives from a grouping of countries to achieve the value it has. America doesn't need Europe. It is Europe that has been a parasite on America.

God bless you

ethicallyright:
America funds NATO because it occupies the middle East in order to control oil prices which backs the dollars.
Do you see European Union stationing military bases in independent territories? European Union is a confederation, a union and not a Country. The countries in the Union now play fatherly role.

They once colonized the whole world. The thing is that America invests in war while Europe invests in the Luxury of its citizens.

America was frustrated during the pandemic because it depended on China on the production Personal Protective Equipments. Was it because they could not produce PPEs that they depended on China? Absolutely no. It was because they just don't like the low end production.

Americans do not like Ford or their locally produced cars, they spend billions of Dollars on English Rolls Royce , Aston Martins and German cars. The Richest Americans buy Swiss watches for hundreds of thousands of dollars per unit and thus pay Switzerland billions of dollars each year just for watches. The average American wears Italian Fashion. The brands you hear are Gucci, Versace etc. They remit billions to Italy yearly just for clothes and bags . The average American drinks French wine. Read about the top most exported wines in the world, they are French.

I could go on and on. The standard of health care in Germany alone beats that of America. Western Europe is now more concerned about the Welfare of its citizens than causing trouble across the world.

No doubt about your points. But I think even Europe had shortages of masks and they had to import from China.
The middle class in America is very sophisticated and America thrives on spending and not saving. Spend all you have and borrow more to spend that's why their economy is bleeding because they're not spending like before. We all know the US is not an example of a welfare state.

But about the EU not stationing military posts outside Europe, the issue s can they afford to maintain it. And Europe that could not even agree to a standing army or jointly fund defense projects. That's why I insisted that their priorities for now is make cars for the Germans, good clothes and bags for the Italians and nice wines and perfumes for the French so they can take care of their selves and afford their citizens the opportunity to visit the Maldives and other tourist spots and take tours.

Different priorities

CaptainMarvel:
listen bro. When it comes to tech, the German are unrivaled. I was privy to read about some German's tech projects that were shut down after the world 2. Their thoughts, even in that time is mind-blowing. Many of the American inventions today were concepts stolen from the Germans after the war. The Irish too are naturally brilliant people. It will interest you to know that a large chunk of today's American scientist are of German and Irish descent

I understand your point
But like I said, it depends on the the time and government.

Go back in history and see what the USSR was doing in the academic and scientific world. They're still doing much no doubt but you can't compare then and now. That's the same for Germany. As at now the Germans are behind. They just want to keep making cars.

The world is talking about hypersonics, china and America are going in that direction. I don't know if Germany is interested. Their own for now is maybe electric Audi cars and wicked Benz products. I love Mercedes benz

CaptainMarvel:
lols...that was what the world thought after the first world war, until the Germans shocked them and almost abruptly seized the world.

Just like in football then, the English were making all the noise about the EPL and the building Wembley and their individual stars, until the Germans shocked them, won the world cup with a more compact team in 2014, thrashing the almighty Brazil in their backyard.
My point is, the German's work stealthily, and the effects is forceful and overwhelming. That's just their inherence.

No doubt about German work ethics
But for now that's not in their agenda. They just want to keep making cars and going left wing slowly. If they wanted to go right, they would have made some signs. They don't want that for now.

CaptainMarvel:
Only and Only Germany bro. See, U.S military tech capabilities if way ahead of China and Russia. Forget the surface ramblings.
Read more about the second world war, the German Tanks, Fighter Jets and U-boats were un-matched, and they were built within the shortest of time. The Germans were the first to conceive the A-bomb idea before they were snitched on.

This was during war. During war great inventions are made and don't forget, Europe was the home of the world's leading scientists. They spent more on education. Today can you say that about Europe.

America brought the best brains from Europe like Tesla, Einstein from Europe to America. Till now, America has the competitive advantage in scientific development and they can buy even European scientists.

Openbusiness:
See who dey talk about oh, France? A joker country that couldn't even defend itself against the Germans in WW2, they surrendered like sissies. Germany conquered them so quick like someone cooking 3 minutes indomie. This mumu President should tell Europe to stop depending on American money like parasites first, they can't even pay their NATO fees, America funds like 90% of NATO. Without the EU sucking trillions of dollars from America, Americans would have been prospering in their country better than they are right now, and America would have been a super wealthy country. While Europe, excluding the British, would either end up getting conquered by the Germans, Russians or Arabs.

God bless you
They live of America. They should do more. They could not even complete a fighter jet project together without pulling out. Europe is shitty

CaptainMarvel:
The only EU country that can match or even surpass the U.S military technology is Germany. But unfortunately, the world war 2 had thought the other European countries a lesson. Allowing Germany to harness its full military potential could mean the end for them. Its better to be military-slavic to the US than face Germany's military wrath

Germany is far behind. They are focused on making more wicked Mercedes Benz. War is not their priority anymore

mansakhalifa:
Macron sort of sounding like Charles de Gaulle this time around.

If you know what I'm talking about, then you are a good student of history.

Enough said.

Yes he is trying to be like that. But France can't even fuel their own jets in the Sahara. They still need the Americans. Europe focused less on Military spendings. They were not even buying enough from the Americans before

I like Macron for one thing. He is trying to reassert France position in the scheme of things in the globe. You can see his activities in Mali and the Sahel region. He is also the only European force showing solidarity with the Greeks against the Turks in the eastern Mediterranean.

But France doesn't have the dollars bills like Germany. Germany doesn't want anything to do with conflict. They just want to keep making Volkswagen cars and Mercedes Benz. Europe is now a sissy Union. During the Libyan war they could not even maintain the no fly zone over Libya. The US had to fill in the gap.

Over the years so many US administrations have systemically weakens the EU and her NATO counterpart by not encouraging them to do more for themselves. Their defense budget is barely up to 2% of their GDP. Thanks to Trump who wants America allies to become stronger. He is doing the same with the Japs. The truth is forget being big boss, our prayer be say make e no be only us get for our circle. E go make sense well if everybody for our circle hold their side well.

Growing up ehn,
I had so much faith in this country. I was a complete Nationalist. I loved Nigeria with all my heart. My frustration for Nigeria started with Jamb and the admission process. From then till now, I don't even see any reason for me to be called a Nigerian. I have graduated and the Job process is frustrating me again. What kind of country is this. That just wants to completely turn her citizens to the most frustrated and confused people on earth deliberately.

Nigeria doesn't want you to be happy if you think of her or love her. You can't be happy if you love this country. I wish slawomir will give me weed, lemme take Heineken and play some marlian music to just forget about this stress.


Nigeria is not what celebrating

SegFault:
It will end in tears that is all I have to tell you, after reading about a lot of monarchs especially the coke sniffing Romanovs I realised that monarchy is trash.

Well the monarchy in Japan is over 1000 years.
Every culture is unique and different. The monarchy still has some years to survive. Till then, we will not kill it before it's time. Nature will take its cause

SegFault:
The Japanese PM is the main guy, the monarchy is just ceremonial. Besides read up on the rubbish that happened during WW2, if it was a democratic head that was ruling Japan would all those war crimes have happened.

Pre world war ll the monarchy had little to do with governance in Japan. Its almost the same thing in post war Japan.

If you read my model, I talked about the Prime minister being the head of government. Though the monarchy would be there, it wouldn't just be all ceremonial like what you have in Europe. It will still have some very minimal power. But the monarchy would be there as head of State

SegFault:
I hope you know monarchy stagnates progress, read up on Russia and other countries that did away with monarchy and see how they suddenly went from low to high, the western style is not so bad, it just needs restructuring.

It didn't stagnate Japan.
A constitutional Monarchy is different from an absolute monarchy

tommy589:
We should have our home grown democracy not western styled

Absolutely.
I believe in Edo becoming independent someday. Nigeria doesn't want to work.

If Edo should become independent then we will go with a parliamentary system of government.
We will have two houses. One would be the House of Dukes and the other House of the citizens. The house of Dukes would contain all government recognized traditional monarchs. They would sit only less than 4 times a year. I am trying to incorporate what we have today as Edo state council of traditional rulers.

The house of citizens would contain the Parliament. Which would be voted in by various constituencies. It would be leaded by the Prime minister . The head of government would be the Oba of Benin. He would be the head of both the House of Dukes and Citizens.

Rugaria:
Have you read "From third world to first" by the Singaporean independence leader Lee. Kwan Yew?
Read the book and exorcise yourself of some of these self-depreciating beliefs. Like I told you before, no superior humans! Just societies with more organized cultural outlooks skewed towards acheiving societal goals. Lee told a story in that book of how the government then had to try to stop their people from going up the newly built high rise apartments with their pigs! Remember Singapore was more of a desolate fishing port before him! Folks were so basic with their lifestyle then they wanted to rear their pigs in the new skyscrapers!

But he pesevered! Go to Singapore today.., shiny modern, pace setting. That is a product of inventive leadership. If Singapore had Buhari as their leader instead of Lee, I bet by now instead of talking about high rises to accommodate the population of such a small country, the discuss will be about ruga! Leaders should skew cultural growths towards modern standards that makes the acceptance of new cultural tools easier. Not turning themselves into agents of retrogression and stagnation. Get yourself a bunch of forward thinking leaders and watch your country compete.

Lee ruled till he died. He only gave power to his son who is still ruling today. The PAP has been in power since. To me democracy as we have in the US is not for us.

daddytime:
In Nigeria, security details and escorts will see a mob building up and advancing towards a sitting governor and not shoot to disperse them? Come on bro.

You don't even want to know what went on underground before the elections.

How ghana must go laden with cash was dropped for boys to get arms and mobilize to cause chaos in the State.

My brother, you won't understand, just forget matter.

Unfortunately it wasn't the security who shot these guns. It was thugs of that did the shooting. We all know this for sure and yes we all blame the APC for hiring people to go boo the governor at the gate. I know some of these boys that were paid 2k. What I am saying was that thugs of the government should not have shot live bullets at the people there. Police can disperse crowds using other techniques.

That act alone of shooting heightened everything because people expected reprisals and I still feel a cult war will brew up later in Benin for it trust me.

We know about it. Both sides spent money to arm boys. The incidence were the Oba was referring to Shuaibu was about the palace incidence and me and you know that Muntaris boys were responsible for that

daddytime:
It was also the deputy Governors supporters who were abusing and attacking the governor's convoy at the palace abi?

In politics people boo each other and make chants. But does that warrant shooting at them, come on let's be honest. If the police had done this, you will cry out loud. I am only condemning the shooting. The shooting was wrong. Very very wrong let's not be sentimental about it.

Osagyefo98:
And if person shoot gun outside the palace, is it a crime.


Mtcheeeeeew

Shooting gun at people outside the palace is a sacrilege. Shooting at people at the kings palace. You don't even enter the palace normally with your charms.

LUGBE:
I don't usually do this but it was so obvious he took side with the APC but unfortunately they lost.

This his advice would have come before election if he meant well for his people.

Where were you guys when he condemned the way Obaseki was kicked out of the APC. You guys are quick to forget that this same King supported obaseki movement to PDP and frowned at the way APC kicked him out. It is here on Nairaland go and look for it.

Real PDP people in Edo state will tell you that, that meeting in the palace played a great role. Do you think Visa ban would have stopped Kabaka or Muntari.

Let's call a spade a spade
Shuaibu boys should not have shot guns outside his palace. That's the height. I am first an Edo man before I support the PDP and you should not do it. I won't be happy if foreigners were shooting outside the kings palace walls. That's disrespectful. What are we telling outsiders

daddytime:
If you and your benefactor/friend's preferred candidate had won you wouldn't be saying this.

Partisan and partial Oba.

I lost respect for you when you decided to support evil and oppression by taking sides with that useless Captain and Oshiomole.

You were berating a sitting governor and his deputy at a so-called peace Harley while refusing to call out Captain and Oshiomole who was ready to bankroll carnage if not that they met their match in the governor and his deputy and the wokeness of the citizens of Edo.

Was it not Shuaibu's boys who shot guns outside his palace on the day PDP flagged their campaign. I was near the palace that day. I am Obaseki supporter and PDP. Did you not see the deputy governor kneeling down. He didn't just want to say it in public.

But that was taken too far
How can you shoot guns outside the palace of the Benin monarch. That was what he was castigating Shuaibu for.

capatainrambo:
Oba bha tor !!!


But clearly your majesty we all knew you wer very much pro apc in the last election, baring your voice so early may be seen as an affront by obaseki. Pls your majesty leave pdp and politics for now.


Long May you reign your majesty.

No he wasn't. You guys always say that.
The King kicked against godfatherism even from the primaries in APC and he made a statement when Obaseki was kicked out saying everyone should be given equal opportunity and no body should lord over another in the political process. He actually talked against consensus candidates.
I am a PDP and Pro Obaseki fan.
So the meeting at his palace was mainly because the violence was getting heated. If you noticed, the reason why he was hard on Shuaibu was because the deputy governor boys were responsible for the shooting outside the palace. That's where you people get it wrong by saying he was pro APC. He was only warning against violence.

Watch that clip which is about 2 hours not what channels uploaded.

Slawomir

How you see this matter

mexicocity:
It was not AC current but DC current which made transmission over a long distance.
Eg kenji dam

DC is what you have in your tiger batteries
AC is what you have in Kanji dam been distributed across the country and Tesla was the inventor of that.

I strongly feel if we want to stay united in this country and show it, that we mean business, then the presidency should go to the south east. I am not from there. I am Edo but I feel it should go that way. Something happened in 1967 and till now we are still pretending to be one Nigeria.

As for the west, if they bring in Osinbanjo, I will rather vote for Ganduje. I don't like saboteurs and people who are so self centered and selfish.


Don't quote me oooo
I never brush this morning. If I open mouth swear for you

EMMY76:
Amenians are actually the only Arab country with 96% christain population.

They're not arabs

garfield1:
Oga,apc won akoko edo.he lost his own LGA by 10,000 votes.even when shuaibu was in apc,apc usually wins etsako east and central by narrow margins.the key thing was to win and he failed

OK I don hear

garfield1:
Coming for him how? Both of them lost their lgas and will always do so.this is the only time they will wield so much power to challenge oshiomhole

There are reports that Kabiru won his LGA. If he lost, he lost with a margin of 2k votes.

As for Shuaibu he did his job very well. Narrowed the victory in the Etsakos. We all know Oshiomole. Go and look at the results in the Etsakos.

All these ones no be king na

garfield1:
Oshiomhole is the strongest politician in edo,he still controls edo north

Only a matter of time. He will become irrelevant
The Shaibus and Adjotos are coming for him.

I pity Francis Alimikhena