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Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 10:24pm On Jul 23, 2022
South Africa takes the lead. Superb counter attack. The first from them involving just three passes.


The Moroccans are fatigued right now.
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 9:47pm On Jul 23, 2022
The SA off the ball movement is top notch. Morocco daring with a 3woman defence.
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 9:05pm On Jul 23, 2022
Na men just full this Morocco coaching crew. Wicked looking men grin

Hope SA will not be using long balls tonight?
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 12:43pm On Jul 23, 2022
We know Rohr ended badly, but pls he's wat way way ahead of Waldrum. Haba na.


Rohr had his own system, conservative though, and it worked but progression and tweaks, adjustments were his undoing.


With Randy, you can't even see any system at play. In fact, look at the style used in 2018 Wafcon and compare to this 2022. It's exactly the same. Randy na just handler extraordinaire. Rohr's style got the SE to the WC with games in hand. Rohr annihilated bitter rivals.


Randy rather face the media and accuse them of distractions, Asif he's coming to do one prime Conte or Klopp project.


Rohr will recognize a player is tired and do the necessary.


This Nuga Coach is down the ladder. He's by no means better than the local coaches. Mention them. Infact this is rather a deal he benefits from than SF benefitting from him. Cv don boost for him now. He can leave. They should get rid of him.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:32pm On Jul 23, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
You build from ground up. This move is building.
So he's currently buildinghuh Okay
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:43am On Jul 23, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
I do not get you.

There are loads of deep-lying playmakers in Europe. Loads.

Manchester City - Rodri
Chelsea - Jorginho (Kovacic to an extent)
Arsenal - El Neny and Xhaka
Liverpool - Thiago Alcantara
Tottenham - Hojberg
West Ham - Declan Rice

It goes on like that to lower leagues. So, the competition is much and Nwakali needs to build himself to try to break in.

Come on, you must understand the point.
C'est fini.

And this move is not building. Simple.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:41am On Jul 23, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


You are just over the place. If you want to talk of versatility, systems also play a role. By the way, Saka is not a deep-lying playmaker and has no relationship with the point.

The point is simple. Deep creative role is highly competitive. Finito.
grin

If you don't get my usage of Saka, then it says alot o grin
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 12:37am On Jul 23, 2022
mostob:
I'm talking about the ambidexterity. grin
Once na Santi, its hard to focus on one. Now you've clarified, the better cool
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:47pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


What are you saying? This start is just totally off.

Zinchenko never played midfield role for Manchester City because of competition for the role. However, in his National team, he owns that role. This is simple logic. You can not bend it.

Kelechi Nwakali has a selling point as a deep-lying playmaker. However, it is difficult to breakthrough into top clubs because of high competition for the role.

The point is so simple and what you are writing here has no relationship to the point.

How many deep lying playmakers do we have in the Super Eagles today? We have cried about this a lot. Haba.
Still back to selling point. Let me use same Zinchenko against your angle-Is that not a fact of versatility rather than opportunity? Does Kelz has such that it makes him such a hard one to ignore? Saka is another example of versatility. If that is all he has and it's making him go down the ladder, he should upgrade. Infact many of our midfielders in the NT are versatile. Deep playing since. I don taya abeg. He's not the only one around. Little messi okoro sef no reach this one.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:41pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


This is also totally off.

Why do you think Ten Hag is battling for Frenkie De Jong? Why do you think Sarri blocked the move of Jorginho to Manchester City? He wanted that deep-lying skillset and Jorginho ticked the box.

You have midfielders in much much better leagues. No one has ever argued that. The point is, how many of these much much better league players are deep-lying playmakers? None.

Are you going to force Ten Hag, Sarri, or Guardiola to play without deep-lying playmakers? How many coaches abandon their philosophies? That is why new coaches sign, and scout players. Your point is totally off tangent again.
Lol. So since its all about blocks, who is blocking him from getting good deals?

I wonder who is off right now.

See what you're doing just to attribute credence to Nwakali.... downplaying other players with style. This guy must be the new messi or pirlo
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:39pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

FACT. It is difficult for even black players to hold deep-lying playmaker roles in top clubs.

No one tagged Nwakali Messiah in any way. We wanted someone who can play a deep creative role and he is just one of the few we have. That is not a hype but stating his quality.
It's more than stating quality since his name has been mentioned here. Fact. If it is merely stating quality, then Onyeka and not Nwakali should ve getting the hype on here. Whether it's coach tactics or not.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:37pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

The coach's tactics. The coach's tactics. Not the National team. If the coach does not want a deep lying playmaker, Kelz Nwakali will hardly get called up.
And at club level?
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 10:35pm On Jul 22, 2022
Waldrum can't do anything as small as an atom with this team at the world cup. He should getat.
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 10:17pm On Jul 22, 2022
mostob:
Alozie is at fault for that goal, she should have close down that Zambian winger. It was just an unfortunate goal.

Rita should just drop her retirement letter by tomorrow morning. She has tried...

Alozie playing that corner with her left brought a lot of Santi Arsenal memories @ dav ep grin
Curveor of Cks grin

Cazorla-ic moments. Sweet ones
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 9:50pm On Jul 22, 2022
do4luv14:
if they will receive the cash in naira, we will know if money was not available,
but in dollars, hmmm


yeah I hope so too, but it should be a foreign sponsors
That will be much need. Foreign
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 9:49pm On Jul 22, 2022
elyte89:
I don't really like d way sf move d ball going forward... Dey lack ideas on aw to attack, make dem sack dis phe coach grin
Once anybody runs into the wings, nobody follows up. Off the ball markings are poor too
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 9:44pm On Jul 22, 2022
Despite unimpressing in attack, Ordega is giving Martha Tembo problems
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 9:35pm On Jul 22, 2022
Off the ball is really poor. Can someone pls beg Ordega to be a team player and drop the Messi mode. It's not working atall. Then why is it so hard for Onumonu to be at the receiving end of big chances. See that nonsense Ordega played instead of setting Onumonu up for a easy finish.


Nnadozie's positioning for that goal was poor too.
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 8:59pm On Jul 22, 2022
Okobi is Captain tonight. I think she fits cool
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 8:55pm On Jul 22, 2022
Why dem dey rub headin circles? grin
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 8:48pm On Jul 22, 2022
Deltamani:
Banyana Banyana had to change the venue after the grounds maintenance staff switched on water sprinklers as they took to the pitch.
first of all, introduction grin
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 8:47pm On Jul 22, 2022
mostob:
Desiree Ellis as coach of the year is just laughable. Based on what metric exactly?
I saw a clip. Zee hug Mane and greeted the next but passed Madam. Lol
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 8:45pm On Jul 22, 2022
do4luv14:
You will shake ya head taya, the players and the coaches are to be blamed to some extent, including that of the Super Eagles

What is the value of naira to dollarshuh
Do any of our sponsors make their earnings in Dollarshuh?

do Airpeace , Aiito and the likes foreign companieshuh.

Again do you knew how much it takes to convert Naira to dollarshuh?

We had only one foreign sponsors Nike abi nah Adidas, the rest are locals
Lol.


Is it about the cash not being there or they are not ALWAYS regarded as PRIORITY Enough??


Hopefully, this SF team have the chance to get some good sponsorship before the world cup. They need it badly. This one that I'm hearing 3rd term. Nawa o
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:42pm On Jul 22, 2022
Off tangent is the new word now grin grin

Thanks to Nwakali.

Isokay.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:37pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:

That is why I said, it is down to comprehension. Scanning through your post, you are off tangent of the discussion. How can discussing the challenges of a player equate to hype? Is that not shocking even to you?

Now when we talk about skillset, it is with respect to our national team. When we go to Europe, we have loads of them. Let me just list five.

Rodri
Thiago Alcantara
Xhaka
Jorginho
Frenkie De Jong

I can go on. We have loads of them in Europe. We just saw the rise of Zidane Iqbal for Manchester United. Brilliant in midfield dictation, keeping the ball in tight spaces, and distribution. There is still James Garner. These are young players.

In Nigeria, we do not have them in mass. We don't. So, that is why we appreciated Eguavoen giving Kelz Nwakali the call-up. That is not hyping him.

European clubs have the luxury of passing Kelz Nwakali if they seek a deep-lying playmaker, that dictates with long balls. For Eguavoen, it was important to him, and reached for the few he could get. Luckily, he believed in Nwakali, and I believe he showed quality.
First and foremost, you can't put skillset just to the NT. If that skillset exist and its his selling point, then it should be what makes deals come his way.


Then for the national team, he is not indispensable. He can't be getting call ups ahead of players in much much better leagues cos of just skillset. This is the national team


I find it funny that you think my earlier writeup is off tangent. Lol


First, the hype ish is majorly down to mentions. He is mentioned here more as a messiah of sorts than due to his club issues. Pls, do tell me how that is not hype.


Easy with the excuse for why European clubs are not coming. That's hilarious. You're trying to make me believe that almost all clubs that turn eyes to him are avoiding him cos of his position or what?


The Eguavoen that called him now can't even talk about him much again.



Why we consider it hype, and rightly so, is cos we are making him look like the NT needs him more than he needs the NT.


Besides, if clubs are overlooking, then that tells alot of whatever he has to offer in a COMPETITIVE squad.


I don't doubt his skillset or talent. But the hype is sickening. There are many players that have worn the GWG that deserves to be in the same sentence for hyping and Kelz is not yet deserving to be one.


I don't even want to start with the list of 5 you made up there.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:23am On Jul 22, 2022
This is no more about hating. If division 2 is where you think he deserves call up from, then you don't like the SE. If na skillset, clubs should be after him, but he's not the only one with that skillset. So down the preference ladder. No analysis can sideline this. I hope he shocks all of us. Is it true he rejected Zurich?

Hmmm
Okay.

Once again, the afcon issue is not the reason he didn't get good deals. Infact it was a good noise to help get deals. Yet. ..yet.


Hype is mentioning him more than he should be. It makes it look like playing there is sweet.
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 6:49pm On Jul 21, 2022
Deltamani:
WAFCON 2022| ‘Every Game Is Like A Final For Us’ – Plumptre Confident Ahead Zambia Tie

Super Falcons and Leceister City Defender Ashleigh Plumptre has made it known that her side won’t leave any stone unturned as they look on to face the Shepolopolo of Zambia in the third place match on Friday Evening.

Africa’s most successful Women National team, the Super Falcons lost to the Morrocan Ladies on Monday, 4-5 On penalties, after a 1-1 draw in regulation time, a match, which saw the Super Falcons playing with nine women in most part of the game, following red cards received by Halimatu Ayinde and Rasheedat Ajibade.

Plumptre who gave out an amazing performance in the Semi-final encounter against the Atlas Lionesses has promised that they won’t relent in their last game of the tournament and would rather give their all, because every game is like a final to them.

“We showed alot of character in our last game against Morocco and never expected to play in the third place game, but the final,” She said.

“It showed how much solidarity we had, working for each other and making sure we got things done, even when we were two women down in most part of the game.

“We are a high achieving team, and we play every game as if it is the final and tomorrow won’t be any different. We are confident of getting something positive out of the game.” She concluded.
Two both of them resemble.

Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 6:47pm On Jul 21, 2022
They've reportedly paid them 1k each from the 10k owed each player. undecided

Why are they always never having the cash set down as the qualifiers are ongoing. Why are they always passing across this Afterthought Mentality each year and tournament??

Before you know it now, this nonsense will hamper out World Cup preparation and morale will be dented. First timers are already ready and cash is not even an issue for them. It's now us.

Paying coach 2k and asst 1.5k


Smh


Wike abeg come save these ladies na. angry cheesy
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 9:07pm On Jul 20, 2022
Deltamani:
Onome Ebi is far better than her in all aspects of Football at Least Ebi don achieve pass her by fan both in Playing and in Cash..
Not surprised she's just full of attacks. She's done it for Ellis too. Now i see.
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 9:04pm On Jul 20, 2022
https://youtu.be/3jWiHsiHpko


This is an excellent analysis by ET.

One observation- Plumptre is the only defender that had successful passes to the midfielders throughout the game.


They don't look up.

The RM didn't run with Uchenna all the times she was running forward.


The Morrocans got their tactics on marking right.

We barely had triangles and squares to show we were playing a system.

Ohale is the calmest of the defense line.


Midfielders need to step with creativity down the middle. Like this is a big urgency.

Ucheibe is the best midfielder for the team right now.
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 1:50pm On Jul 20, 2022
lovewins:
Super falcons boycott training this morning. Apparently players haven't been paid the WAFCON qualifiers, talk less the WAFCON itself.

Our administrators are the worst
I support fully.

When they don't give their all, the media roast them and drag them through Vawulence Junction.


When they give their alll, they are still treated like trash, and that is unacceptable.


Qualifiershuh

The last time i saw such zeal from a national team was from the 2013 SE set vs CIV. Now we are hear and simple reward for such a showdown against all odds and Monies are still in the hang??
Sports › Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by daveP(m): 1:47pm On Jul 20, 2022
Schemerkhiz:
Asisat Oshoala; Nigeria Sole Nominee as CAF reveals tope for the award...





Full list of top 3 nominees ( in alphabetical order);

Ajara Nchout Njoya (Internazionale Milano)
Asisat Oshoala (Barcelona Femenino, Nigeria)
Grace Chanda (Biik Kazygurt)


InterClub Player of the year( Women)
Andile Dlamini (Mamelodi Sundowns, South Africa)
Bambanani Mbane (Mamelodi Sundowns, South Africa)
Evelyn Badu (Sekondi Hascaas Ladies/Avaldsnes IL, Ghana)


Young Player of the year (Women)
Doris Boaduwaa (Sekondi Hascaas Ladies, Ghana)
Evelyn Badu (Sekondi Hascaas Ladies/Avaldsnes IL, Ghana)
Yasmine Zouhir (As Saint Etienne, Morocco)

Coach of the Year (Women)
Bruce Mwape (Zambia)
Desiree Ellis (South Africa)
Jerry Tshabalala (Mamelodi Sundowns)
Reynald Pedros (Morocco)

Club of the Year (Women)
AS FAR (Morocco)
Hascaas Ladies (Ghana)
Mamelodi Sundowns (South Africa)
It looks like Oshoala is in for another award o. Else Grace Chanda should take it. Grace plays like prime Perpetual.

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