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asalimpo:
how did u universe u see come about?
By ur wise thinking how was earth made?

asalimpo:
atheism fries ur brain. So that u actively resist d truth even though it's glaring.
Even History recognises tht Jesus lived on earth. The roman style of execution-crucifixion was real.

its glaring and yet your religion has over 41,000 of which most are contradictory sub-denominations.....
and a good fiction is atleast based on something factual.....saying method of crucifixion is real therefore an unrecorded man of rumoured jewish "father/son/god" character is real is more like saying spiderman is real because New york,Manhattan is real

And how can logical thought fry your brain against an unvalidated belief in flying dragons....wizards....giants....incest....witches talking snakes....donkeys and a floating zoo?

asalimpo:
one of the mods stupidly banned me once for pointing out the leadg nature of ur questions. Now ur askg yet anoda leadg q!
"god-did-it" glass filter.

Y not say wat u want to say instead of couch ur bias as a question?

mesoade:
explaining christ to an atheist lol! Only divine intervention can make you change. . . U know,there ar 1001 proofs dat God doesnt exist against d 10 proofs dat he does . .but still,i can feel his presence.u just nid divine intervention.

so you are saying you believe that it would allegedly purposely make 1001 proofs against itself then condemn people who do follow the evidence for eternity?!
including your kindred that never "heard the word" and were "never saved"? doesn't sound so loving does it?

mesoade:
if he doesnt exist,how then do you explain miracles?

asalimpo:
Fast and pray tht the man's organ shud b restored and grow back to it's full lenght.
Yeah,i know it sounds silly, but God will do it!
But it's gonna take all the concentration and focus this couple hav got.
People usually giv up in prayer because d problem seems insurmountable but there's a point you reach,as you persist, where the problem begins to look surmountable even though you've seen no physcal answer.
I said concentration and focus not faith cuz tht's wat seems hardest to muster during prayer.
Her and her husband can kneel at the bed and begin to pray against this problem ,regularly,everyday.
Read books on faith,ur spiritual authority etc.
The man's physcal development was stopped it can be restored.
He has given up hope of fathering children - this isnt God's will.
If she'll stand her ground she'll see a miracle.
It may take weeks,months,a year mayb 2 or 3 but the problem will go.
Theyre married now. Sleeping around is adultery. She wants a healthy s.ex life. God can forgive her and him their sins . This problem can go.
God can change the man's body.

qstar:
Warped theistic logic.

(i) table/tables were presented to men in the past.
(ii) they rejected the table/tables.

According to Bobbysworld28's logic, they accepted the table/tables(tableism) b4 rejecting them (Atableism).

Bobbysworld28:
The rejection of god/gods is what u guys term as atheism. Christianity falls under the huge umbrella of theism. So what u r saying in essence is that atheism was before theism. This is wrong!

We shall deal with specifics later or on another thread. I will like for us to concentrate on the glamour (which includes the concept) of atheism for now.

Bobbysworld28:
I dont get this question. Kindly rephrase

Bobbysworld28:
They rejected the concept of god/gods, yet the rejection came before knowing abt the concept? U r running in circles here. U cannot pre-reject wht u r nt aware of, haba!
Atheism cannot come before theism.

I am not even remotely referring to atheism coming before theism but rather the rejection of the "god/gods" concept predates christianity and is not a result of the scientific era nor have anything to do with the "god" concept of christianity as asalimpo has claimed....do you now understand that

Bobbysworld28:
Morality and laws are man-made and anchored on the acknowledgement of a higher power for enforcement. U acknowledge government of the physical laws but ascribe ur consciousness to 'nothing' quite remarkable. The law of gravity then was propounded by ur forefathers, I guess.

I would like for you to explain how you believe something besides the brain governs consciousness and the way you came about such a conclusion and then perhaps tell us how you have the answers that top neuro-scientists are researching on

Bobbysworld28:
The concept of Allah and not Allah himself. I can choose to reject dt he exists because I have heard someone claim he exists. Gerrit?
If I have never hrd of Allah, how can I reject the concept dt he exists? I cannot be said to disbelieve that davien exists on Nairaland if I hv never evn hrd of the name before, can i?

asalimpo:
atheism strted with the scientifc era, specifically after darwin's theory of evolution gathered steam. Before that it was unquestioned even in science that man was made by God.
Division of Science and Religion is a recent thing,it wasnt always so.

Atheism isnt just a belief,it is a movement with adherents.
It is a religion in the abstract sense of the word.

Bobbysworld28:
Again, the hollow argument. Atheists equate lack of knowledge of an issue with a total rejection of the issue. VERY WRONG!
Unbelief will mean I am aware of a subject (and probably related with it) then I choose to reject it. How then can a rejection of a concept predate the knowledge and revelation of the concept? So, atheism cannot predate the knowledge of deity (else all inanimate objects are atheists lol).

asalimpo:
Every living person has a belief system which they adhere to in regulatg and judging their actions.
Every1.
Religion is what dictates ur belief system. So every1 has religion and worships somthg.

Atheism borrows many christian concepts too.
Christianity never told a person to believe in himself.
The secular mumbo jumbo for conscience - ethics - is just a secular name for something we all know exists but can't see?
Yet atheists try to allude tht life is all physcal.
Then y expect people to act with a fair conscience - ethically - in secular affairs? People know the human conscience is a moral judge.

Image123:
i don't need a wiki link. You said there are 41000 different ways to salvation. i said list just 20 of those 41000 ways.

most of the
41000 denominations have different methods towards "salvation"
and other things

OLAADEGBU:
Praise the Lord! Hallelujah!

Image123:
That is a lie. Kindly list 20 different methods of salvation out of the 41000. Thanks.

asalimpo:
sure lazarus died , certified dead, but bf Jesus raised him,he told one of lazarus' sisters that he had power to raise from the dead (something like that).
Jesus' also commanded the disciples he sent out to among other things raise the dead.

Image123:
The existence of 41000 denominations as alleged is not an issue. There may as well be 41000 universities or secondary schools. It don't mean that 1+1 has 41000 different answers. That is what you're insinuating.

Image123:
You insinuated there were about 41000 DIFFERENT views in a bid to discredit faith and Christianity. Now you say little but noticeable ways. He that has the Son of God has life, he that has not the Son has no life. It is that plain, there are no 41000 ways about it.