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Katsumoto:
He aligned with the Northerners because he was expelled from the AG and removed as premier. He went to court to challenge the appointment of Adegbenro as the new premier. The ensuing crisis led to a state of emergency being declared in the West. With Awo in prison due to trumped up charges, he forms a new party, NNDP with Ayo Rosiji and recruits a few NCNC heavyweights such as Akinjide, Akinloye, TOS Benson. They align with the Northerners and with their help, win the court case in 63 and rig the elections in 1965. Its no surprise that the same individuals who went with Akintola were never accepted by Yoruba people and kept aligning with Northerners. Akinloye, Akinjide, Rosiji were all NPN stalwarts in the 2nd republic.

Why was he expelled from the AG and removed as Premier.

He went to court and challenged the appointment of Adegbenro (This is still a legal thing to do and he hasnt violated any law by so-doing)

WHy was he expelled from a party he helped form and was a Premier?

MKO was a prominent NPN member, How come you are not associating him with Akintola?

I knew about Tundes case through Kola Olawuyi's program.

It was said he was accused of stealing something and he was taken to the Captain

Katsumoto:
The hatred for OBJ started when he went against june 12 and suggested the interim govt as a way out of the political impasse in 1993. As far as OBJ is concerned, he wants to be the only relevant Yoruba man.

Before June 12. OBJ was a well hated man in the SW wwaaayyyy before that.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=488532.msg6483325#msg6483325 date=1280531134]Dayo, pardon my ignorance, but what/who is/are an Aare Ona kakanfo

What are they supposed to do? Or are they the same thing as "Oba" of Yorubaland?[/quote]Aare Ona kakanfo is the generalissimo of the Yoruba Army. The last one was MKO Abiola.

In Ancient custom the Aare leads the Army and he is supposed to win all wars or die in battle

Its not a title for the faint hearted and only the Alaafin appoints the strongest manto the post

http://www.yoruba.org/magazine/spring97/s4.html

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=488326.msg6483312#msg6483312 date=1280530858]Interesting. I never heard about the theories you're talking about tho.

And here I thought he was loved by Yorubas, because of the way the tribalist on this section tend to characterize a Yoruba man by OBJ and Awolowo's actions.[/quote]They probably do that to spite Yorubas knowing how much people in the SW hate OBJ.

In 1998 when OBJ came to OAU, Students went there to harras him and it took security details to bail him out

Thats the kind of love he gets

OBJ that had a prominent Yoruba politician and Minister of Justice murdered while in Govt

OBJ is the worst thing to happen to the SW, A theory was even propounded that he is not a Yoruba man

He ruled Nigeria for 11yrs he did nothing for the Yorubas.

asha 80:
Was Akintola a moslem?

His first name was Samuel which doesnt look like an Islamic name

Why did Akintola have to align with Bello and Balewa.

How did he betray Awolowo?

Who turned the South West to a battle ground? I am sure Akintola was not fighting himself, Who was he fighting with.

The SW had a lot of development during SL Akintolas rule and I see him as a worthy Yoruba icon

sjeezy8:
lol that was then- I know of yoruba people who like Obj they might not like him like Awo, but they like him.

Maybe people like Adedibu, Akala, Oyinlola, Bode George.

I dont think any part of Nigeria hate OBJ more than the Yorubas

sjeezy8:
I dont think akintola betrayed Awo or yoruba people or Nigeria- he did what he thought in his mind was right, in politics there is always someone who wanted to be at the top so its not a big deal

But Akintola didnt achieve anything for the western government or Nigeria LOL- thats the problem he HAD NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS, other than that he is a regular Oga from the West. or atleast not as much as Awos own

Zik I guess kept Nigeria together, same with Obj- But I know for sure when Obj dies- his burial ground will be nicely maintained. cause theres just as many Obj supporters as there are those who hate him in yorubaland. Its 50/50

OBJ 50/50 in the South West? How come he couldnt even win his own ward in 1999? OBJ is the butt of jokes and public ridicule. The bridge leading to his own town he couldnt complete.

Ibadan-Oyo-Ogbomosho-Ilorin road couldnt complete in 8 yrs

Minus money and bully tactics, OBJ cant win on his own street.

Regarding Akintola, You know the was premier between 1959 and 1966 All achievements of the government between then should go to him

Carlosein:
i think so. it was around a church. i actually went to the same secondary school with tunde.

the captain was only recently sentenced to death. heard he was shedding tears in court.

Do you have an article for it. Thank God justice prevailed at last

Eziachi:
I thought you are an intelligent guy, but to you every issue is Yoruba vs Igbo, hence you can't make any coherent reasoning. Do you know what indigenization policy actually means and who can make such a policy and whose policy was it?

I can tell you now at least six people claiming to raise the motion for Nigeria independent, and I wish now that they didn't. Some are alive and some are dead, Mokwugo Okoye was nicknamed in those period as "The Boy is Good" because they claimed that he ws so eloquent why raising the motion for independent that the British shouted "This boy is good".

Anthony Enahoro is still alive, he also claim to raise the same motion and so was Joseph Tarka, when he was alive makes the same claim. So there you go, that is reason behind my analogy with an ant.

Choose your battles. Not every battle is worth fighting, Not every argument is worth pursuing.

Hope you understand me

darefestus:
No i cant forget that, since Carrick and Rafael gave BM the match.
Moreso you shouldnt be talking about it since Inter whopped your a$$ in the final.I'm sure you couldnt sleep that night.

Inter is our oga no qouestion just like Bayern is you Oga eternally.

You would always be our boy boy

@Katsumoto,

How did Akintola betray Awolowo

Thread here https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-488532.0.html

Samuel Ladoke Akintola was the the 8th Aare Ona kakanfo of Yorubaland and Premier of Western region between 1959 and 1966

Under his rule the Western Region grew in leap and bounds.

His rift with Chief Obafemi Awolowo was well documented and many concluded he betrayed Awolowo.

Can anyone shed light on what you know about the 8th General of the Yoruba Army and Premier of the Western region?

Note: Any tribalistic comment by the usual brigade would be deleted and reported to the mods

Katsumoto:
I am sure you are familiar with the 'wettie' era. The west burnt in the time Akintola was premier because he betrayed Awo. Remember he split the AG, formed NNDP, and then aligned with the Northerners. Even when Zik fell out with Bello and Balewa, he wasn't betrayed by Okpara.

So how did he betray Awolowo.

Can we open another thread and not derail this?

asha 80:
Katsumoto the way yorubas see Obasanjo is almost the same way if not the way igbos see Zik.

I agree as stated in my previous post below

dayokanu:
Awo probably took note of the saying that Charity begins at home. Awo was premier of Western region while Zik was a President

Most Yoruba politicians of old who took care of their people the Yorubas are always remembered fondly.

OBJ is probably similar to Zik who cared more about Nigeria than his Backyard.

In OBJ's Local Govt, I doubt he can win any credible election while Awolowos name still pull crowds almost 25yrs after the sage died

Katsumoto:
No I am not satisfied. Akintola did not achieve anything for Nigeria. He betrayed even his own people. He is neither a Nigerian nor a yoruba hero.
All the people you mentioned are reverred for one reason or the other. That Akintola betrayed Yoruba people does not make him a Nigerian hero unless you want to argue that by betraying Awo and aligning with Bello, he became a Nigerian hero.

Katsumoto, I dont agree with any of those things you wrote.

Akintola was premier of Western region between 1959 and 1966 and ANY development and achievement of the Action Group in the Western Region then should go to him.

How did Akintola betray Awolowo? Care to expatiate possibly on another thread

^^ How did you enjoy last Aprils rimming? In case you forgot

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seanet02:
@metalgong, Then why did ziks own version of free education failed within 2yrs at least his party was in control of the east? Why did you ibos fail to maintain acb bank that was own by the east? Remember their is still WEMA bank, where is all the companies established by your satanic leader? Why is the east lagging behind in all ramifications or you have more industries in the east (all added together) than half of what is in LAGOS? The reason we were able to maintain this heritage is because AWOLOWO studied law and utilize his reasoning to educate his people on how to manage their economy while your foolish lord studied political follow follow with a minor in stupidity and refuse to educate you that taking to kidnapping and fake production of goods and services wont take you to developed manner. Me a militant? Calculate the number of kidnappers and militants in the east and west and divide each region with its population you will see that majority of you people are either kidnappers or oil militants. Sorry for the advice our hero have in the civil war that ruin you fools.

What happened to National bank?

Eziachi:
Before you post something try to read what you are arguing against first before posting, because not only that your last posting supports y argument but put manure into it.
Yes Awo did all those wonderful things you listed but where did him sight them, built them or effect them? All in Yoruba land and for Yoruba people. He made many Yorubas like Abiola, Christopher Kolade, Eleganza, Oshopey over night millionaires during his brief period as Gowon’s finance minister by his crafty and well thought out indigenization policy of foreign companies.
And can you say the sae for Azikiwe? Not at all. Like you have said both men are miles apart in everything. So stop arguing against your own point.
So he is a Yoruba hero, even a god. The last thing anyone can accuse Awolowo is that he is a Nigerian hero. Every Yoruba who is what today owes him a great gratitude. Forget about your story of who moves the motion for independent, even an ant then can do it at the time.

Awo probably took note of the saying that Charity begins at home. Awo was premier of Western region while Zik was a President

Most Yoruba politicians of old who took care of their people the Yorubas are always remembered fondly.

OBJ is probably similar to Zik who cared more about Nigeria than his Backyard.

In OBJ's Local Govt, I doubt he can win any credible election while Awolowos name still pull crowds almost 25yrs after the sage died

debosky:
Yes - the Utd thread has become the spitting bowl of mama gee.

Wetin Konsign you? I gave mammagee the rights

@ Dare

Long time no see bro! I still remember our battles of yesteryear.

Now I would send darefestus to 6ft under within mins

Eziachi:
Probably you're damn right that that can't happen to Awolowo, the reason being that AWOLOWO is Yoruba icon,idol, leader and hero, and Azikiwe? he is a Nigerian hero and that is how a Nigerian hero is treated either dead or alive by Nigeria.
Wait till the day the real Igbo leader will die, you will notice the difference.

A sensible post. Nice way to take the attention from the tribal warriors

ok

lordimpaq:
yea rite as if emirates cup is something to be serious about, na wa for u o dk.

I thought they said Half bread is better than chin-chin

follypimpi:
Buhahaha u r cold I swear.

na true o

Arsenal celebrate in pre-season and gnash teet at season end

I think the captain saga happened at one white house close to Gani Animashaun street. The house looks desolate now. It happened maybe in 1995 or 1996

Nani was injured.

He tries so hard to be Ronaldo, He even gells his hair to make him look like Cristano what a loser

Orilee9ice:
@ DK
O gaa o, mo ti miss o , se ooo gba ti Nike 4luv mo ni ti o'ntage peju nijosi abi o kan try luck e peju awon omidun ti won ba je "ayonge" ti won log on" si "radar e abi, it is high 4 u oh!,

Orile iganmuKini mo tun se o. jeje ni mo joko mi o.

Ko si husband material to dara ju emi lo.

You are right. But Ronaldo wont come back to those ingrates. He is much bigger than them now, They should stick to Nani

Seriously, I think they won't get their title back again cause I personally feel that their overated rooney would end up being a waste of resources.

We all know Chelsea and Liverpool are getting better and better every year.

Their players cant do much if they dont have the inspiration and abundant skills of Ronaldo. If not for Ronaldo, Would Vidic, Rooney, VanDerSaar, Oshea, Evra, Cantona, Pallister and Bryan Robson wont be that good

Rooney stole some of Ronaldos skill and everyone thought he has arrived. The skill in Ronaldos left toe is more than we have in Old Trafford