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coogar: that's the beauty of the new format - the 5th best team in england is better than the best team in scotland...this is why i said its tedious to draw parallels between the world cup and the champions league - united mowed down everything that came their way in 99, including the nazis!

united won it unbeaten!



we beat lyon!
the french league is among the top 5 leagues in europe....

French League is at par with Portuguese league and a little better than Cypriot.

The world cup is also more difficult to win now that the times when countries play East indonesia

Italy played US, Spain, Austria and Czech to win the world cup

anyaekekehinde: dayokanu, when did you start watching football, man utd were allready crowned premier league champions befor we went ahead to crush the nazis. We won the treble since 1999, the nazis are just winning it in 2013. Can u beat dat

If you dont understand English ask those who do

Man Utd participated in the 1999 Champions league not as English Champions

Aji sebi Oyo laari Oyo ki se bi Baba enikan kan

coogar: those teams were there when brazil won it in 94 and 2002. asia/africa have actually diluted the quality of the competition. in 2002, germany was the only quality team brazil played on their way to victory...

china, turkey, costa rica, belgium, etc are the other teams. is this not embarrassing? in 1970, brazil beat england, uruguay, italy, etc to win it. as you can see, the quality of opposition then was better!

When man Utd won the Champions league in 1999, they were not even Champions of the English league

In 2008 When Man Utd when they did not play the Champion of any Major league in Europe

Yesterday one woman flushed her child in the toilet, So lets take infants from their mothers so they dont flush them away

coogar: brazil are the better team. they have won 5 world cups to italy's 4. then you look at their continental achievements and the brand. no comparison and you shouldn't even put the world cup next to the champions league in what we are trying to achieve.....

apples n oranges!!

Brazil won 3 of these trophies in the dark ages have you forgotten? When there was No single team from Africa and Asia, So why Call it a "World Cup"

Na wa oo.

So whats the big deal? Your friend travelling to visit you, then she is aiming to sleep with your husband?

So when your husbands friends come to visit too, maybe your husband should be monitoring you so you dont go and sleep with his friend?

Why allow your husband to go to work, He might as well be sleeping with his colleague, Why allow him travel alone? He might be going to sleep with another woman or the air hostess?

Why even allow him visit his family as he might be sleeping with his sisters and mother.

I think its only those who are capable of doing such that would be paranoid about such situation.

Why allow your sister or mother to come do Omugwo, Have you forgotten your husband might even nack your momsie and sister?

@Debosky,

debosky: I never implied not counting all of them - what I was alluding to was the current subject of debate - which is the better club?

Do we judge that with an undue weighting on ancient achievements or do we place more emphasis on achievements within a reasonably competitive era?

Based on your competitive era argument which is the better national team italy or Brazil

You mean the titles won by Pele, Cryuff, George best, beckenbauer are now irrelevant so how many years would it take for the titles won by Ronaldo and Zidane to be discarded?

Can we also say since England and Cyprus have both won nothing in this "new era" in national Team, they are at par?

coogar: dayo knew he couldn't compete so he left out the competitions where bayern were horribly weak....they have DFB pokal, DFL-supercup and DFBLiga-pokal too. let him add it to their overall title haul, our league cup existed before bundesliga was formed, i cannot rubbish the competition.

The defunct Fuji Cup was played for 10yrs Bayern are the record winner winning it 5 times

The DFL Supercup Bayern are the record winner winning that another 5 times

The DFB Ligapokal was played for 10yrs Bayern are the record winner winning it 6 times

By the time we add 15 DFB Pokal, 23 league titles, 5 Fuji Cup, 5 DFL Super cup, 6 DFB Ligapokal, 5 Champions league 1 Cup Winners, 1 UEFA Cup, 2 Intercontinental cups

That makes 63 titles Now show us what Man Utd has since we are now adding irrelevant trophies

debosky: I never implied not counting all of them - what I was alluding to was the current subject of debate - which is the better club?

Do we judge that with an undue weighting on ancient achievements or do we place more emphasis on achievements within a reasonably

Based on your competitive era argument which is the better national team italy or Brazil

You mean the titles won by Pele Cryuff George best beckenbauer are now irrelevant so how many years would it take for the titles won by Ronaldo and Zidane to be discarded

Mr_TA: On a different note, it turns out Bayern are now the most valuable brand in world football.

I wonder what elampiro has to say to that
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2332596/Bayern-Munich-overtake-Manchester-United-world-footballs-valuable-brand.html

edoyad: Common UCL trophy that even Chelsea have lifted is what is driving you insane, what if Bayern had gone the whole season undefeated in the league ? Abeg make we hear word jare

Common trophy Chelsea won yet Assanal cant win to save their miserable life

You all are a shame to the game

Retardedd we stand

Fussbot: and dat makes ur continental trophies more dan dias?

U said clubs should be measured by dia european success

And I here I present 2 u liverpool dat have more continental trophies dan bayern ..so are they more successful dan bayern or not?

I cant cure your dementia, If you dont know how to put things in context. Liverpool is not competitive in Europe as we speak.

Its like Notthingham forest compared to Juventus

If Liverpool becomes competitive again they would be reckoned with

Until Man Utd becomes competitive in Europe they cant be compared to Bayern, Until man Utd wins 5 CL trophies then they would always watch us from afar

coogar: exactly my point......

which is why we should not compare the old format with the new format! bayern were guaranteed appearance every season pre-93 because it's easy for them to be champions of germany with every other bundesliga team being shyte----it's not the same in england where united have teams like forest, villa and liverpool competing.

The earlier world cup never had 5 participants from Asia, So they should be wished away

Some world cups didnt have countries from Africa, Should we also claim those world cus were irrelevant

We can also say in Earlier world cups were 8 Countries participated it was easier to win vs 32 countries tournament we have now

Italy won a World cup having to play 4 games vs Spain who had to play 7 games in 2010.

Should those world cups be equal?

another daft submission.
we are not discrediting the trophies you won based on how long ago - we are questioning the format used to choose the participants of the old champions league. why aren't we discrediting the league titles won by united in the 60s? cos nothing has changed league-wise!

The format of the world cup has changed. Earlier competition used to be knockouts, Earlier qualification used to be based on invitations. Its extremely moronnic for anyone to claim the world cup of 1938 is the same as the One of 2010 in format

if the current trend continues till year 5,030 then no one would put the achievements of any club down. you have to win your league to play the champions league pre-93. it then means celtic have a better chance of playing it every season than arsenal/chelsea. in that wise, bayern's first 3 champions league titles are worthless!

in 1974 only one country qualified from Africa, In 2010 5 countries qualified.

Only an autistic savant would equate them

Fussbot: cus liverpool have more continental trophies than bayern munich..11-9

Liverpool is in the doldrums currently and cant even qualify for Europe, Bayern is the European champion currently playing 3 of the last 4 finals

Apples and Oranges

dademola: by simple logic, u're implying dt liverpool(7 european cups) shud be rated above bayern(5 european cups). In order words, any playa dt leaves liverpool for bayern is downgrading himself. U just shot ursef in d foot, bro.

Show us how Liverpool got their 7 European trophies

StarBoard: Monsieur,
You don't have to discredit teamswho have had a heritage just because you didn't follow football around that era.
Why not discard any European titles won before 1992 since the tournament was simply a home-and-away format with the finals in a neutral venue?
That way the great Milan side of the late 80s would lose two titles of their 5.
I agree it has gotten harder to win the title these days, but you cannot discard those feats back then just for that simple fact.

By 2030 pundits of that time too should say the trophies won circa 2000 shouldn't count because it was 30yrs ago

coogar: bayern shouldn't even have participated cos they were not the champions of germany in 2012

Man utd shouldn't have participated in 1999 that they won cos they were not champions of England in 98

coogar: let's look at the latest twist in your debate - teams from different leagues should be measured by continental trophies. in other words, liverpool are better than bayern?!

How is Liverpool better than Bayern explain

debosky: This might be a personal opinion, but I hold the CL trophies won over 30 years ago in lower regard to those won more recently. Anything before 1980 should be classed differently for historical reasons IMO. It is far more difficult to win CL trophies in quick succession in the modern era than it has ever been.

In the modern era, Bayern and United have only won the CL twice - on that measure they are at par at best.

So when discussing world cup when should we make the cut off

Going by your analysis Italy would be at par with Brazil.

We can say players like Pele Cryuff Beckenbauer George Best never existed because they played over 30yrs ago

It's obvious to any two year old that teams In the same league are measured by the league titles and teams I'm different league by the continental trophies

thelastpope10: [size=16pt]Which one is all this lamentation na! PDP says they dont want Amaechi as the chairman. What is your own with that? Na by force?

If you dont like it, go and win more governorship seats then come back and install your own person. I have never seen a bunch of whining babies like ACN. Haba! Una no get shame? [/size]

Fortunately this is not a PDP Governors forum election.

Its a Nigerian governors forum election

Nigerian Governors forum voted in Amaechi, You and your ilks can vote in Jang as PDPGF chairman nothing wrong in that

coogar: hahahaha, here come the ebonics.....

dayo, i am better at arguing than you do - see how i used liverpool's 5 CL titles to destroy your argument. biko, quit your retardëd logic, i would go 3 steps further to put a nail in your coffin......

ac milan have 7 CL titles and they have only won their league 18 times. are bayern better than milan? christ, i am such a genius when i am in the zone. i have just put dayo in a box - you can start callling him dayo achebe!

We are saying who is the better club, You keep winning the argument and Class while we keep winning the trophies

Its a win-win for both. You win your seasonal targets which are class NYSE and arguments and we win Trophies

Everyone wins something

Keep telling that to yourself.

I am sure to you Swansea is better than Madrid sef

Show us your 5 CL trophies and we can have a discussion

delvinmaya: [size=14pt] Now who can state categorically that this is what rotimi did[/size]

I've been asking the same question, What did Rotimi do that needed handling

coogar: liverpool have won all european trophies on show and they have not won their league in 24 years. that's how difficult the english league is......

Stop lying

Liverpool never won the Cup Winners Cup

StarBoard: Because community shields are one-offs and not actually competitions in every sense of the word.
I can't support Bayern because they win trophies. But I have to admit when someone is better.
Besides, I wouldn't want to go into the League thing. Europe is where I think you measure up.
Bayern have won all European trophies on show past and present. United haven't. Simples.

Are you prepared for the retardded retort he would give you?

Maybe the weak league was why Bayern won 5 CL titles and have played 10 finals

Let him remove Worthnothing, Community Shields and Milk Cups and see what he has

When Liverpool was dominant in the league they won 4 CL titles

When Man Utd became dominant they won 2

If Bayern was in the EPL, They would have dominated all through and would make the league a one team league.

Bayern 7 European titles, Man Utd 4 European titles.

That says it all