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coogar: look at this odious tool - i am using your argument to destroy you.
earlier, you stated allowing your wife to work opens the doors for lekki/ikoyi residence, top schools and blah blah blah and i countered back that the difference between ojuelegba flat and a lekki mansion can never equate to your wife's salary.....therefore, a bachelor whose salary cannot afford lekki house should resign his fate that he cannot raise his kids to a standard quality! what's so ambiguous about that?

Like I said your defective thought process is the problem.

3m and 5million wont achieve the same thing one would achieve more than the other. 3m would pt your kids in average private schools, 5million would up the ante and put them somewhere better. This is not rocket science

A flat in Ojuelegba is 500k per yr, the flat in Gbagada is 800k per yr tell me there wont be a diff? The flat in magodo is 1m a yr, the flat in ikoyi is 1.6m a yr Even an idiott knows theres a difference

don't be silly......of course they can have families but they should not dream of putting those kids in british-american schools in ikoyi or dream of summer vacations every quarter of the year - like you claimed that working couples would automatically have .

The standard of life definitely increases with increase in household income I wonder why this leprechaun is arguing otherwise. Theres a limit to what the husband can earn and in most cases the wifes supplemental income improv3es their lifestyle

damiso: All relative,all relative my bro.Living in Ikoyi,paying 1m per semester,providing excellent meals(if you plan ahead and this is from personal experience you dont need loads to eat healthy) and summer vacations are not the ONLY parameters to judge good parenting.

But you know there is a limit parenting can do when your child grows up in Ajegunle/Peckham, Attends Public schools vs Private schools and eat better food vs Garri and sugar

In Nigeria the poor peoples diets are usually low and no amount of of parenting would make Garri and groundnut better than Chicken and chips for the child

coogar: it's people like yourself who wasted their adolescent years chasing shadows that find such tasks daunting! which comes first - your savings or the child we are talking about? [size=14pt]if your savings cannot afford N1m per term fees, don't have a child - it's that simple[/size].......you are putting the cart before the horse with your missive! the difference between sending your kid to a top school and a mediocre school cannot be the salary of my wife - only a complete twät would opine such!

You see the delusion I am talking about?

Every Nigerian bachelor who cant afford 1m per term, Live in Ikoyi , Afford summer vacation etc shouldnt have kids

Nigerian guys that earn above 3m per annum are less than 5% of the single guys population

So the other 95% shouldnt have kids and family

You see the delusion and idioticc arguments we have been engaging in since morning

A Man earns 3m per annum his wife earns 2m per annum only a morron would argue 5m household income wont go further than 3m

mrkels: [size=14pt]But na wa o, 2 penalties, if it was against nigeria we for don dey scream ojoro...God i can feel what the ethiopians are feeling now...angry and sad [/size]

You sef see am?

coogar: not at the expense of the welfare of my children!
my standard of living is already top drawer before meeting my wife - i do not need her stipend to pay my bills. i work very hard, i get promoted every couple of years - the decision to stay or not stay at home is a luxury my wife has. she gets to choose whichever one suits her.

Its outright delusion to think you currently have the best thing your kids can afford. Unless you are Dangote or Adenuga an average Nigerian working bachelor barely has enough to live in Ikoyi, Send kids to top schools where they pay over 1m per semester, Provide excellent meals and summer vacations

Efemena_xy: And don't you need money to look after them properly?

Or money is of no significance here?

Of course you dont The mother staying at home is what would send them to the best schools get them the best healthcare instead of the quack doctors

And let me pre empt them, they would tell you the man should make the money to live in Ikoyi, go to St Nicholas, Send them to Greenspring, Vacation in London etc

If everyone was royalty and son of Saudi King, No one would need to work and both man and wife can just sit at home watchng the kids daily and giving them the best in life

BABE!:
This common sense. The more time you have for your kid the better!!! Like most things in life, there's no assurance that all kids with proper parental care will turn out great! However, your job is to care for them, regardless! You brought them into the world. They are not cats. They are entitled to maximum care. They shouldn't be a second priority!

While you're working 70 hrs a week to "provide" for the kid, you miss her first dance presentation at school, ekaette will be the first to hear her utter her first word, you hardly know her teachers at school and so on.

What's the point of the "money" you're making?!

If parents don't have the adequate resources to cater for their kids, they should zip their pants.

What is adequate resources? Living in Agege and living in Ikoyi both are houses kids can grow up in, Onward School and Corona both are schools, Eba and fish vs Chicken and meat are both meals

With a working wife, a better lifestyle is achievable than with a non working one.

If the husband has 1million and the woman makes 250k

The family would live on 1.5m instead of 1m and in most cases the lifestyle would be different

coogar: that's bollocks!
your mortgage is the same whether you stay there alone or you have 3 wives living with you. most bills are also flat rates - billed every quarter so what's the big deal?

The mortgage might be the same but with another person pitching in theres more disposable income for the family to improve their standard of life, to improve their diet, to improve the neighbourhood they live in so their kids wont grow up among miscreants, so their kids would have access to good schools which cost money

Its not exactly rocket science that household expenses are easier to manage when two people work instead of one person

A man can send the kids to Onward nursery, the wife can contribute and they can go to Corona, The man can afford Fish on eba, the woman can contribute to make it turkey on rice, The man can afford Agege the woman can contribute to make it Magodo

And Its actually the Western world that emphasizes working mothers rather than the Nigerian society that raises males to be lazy

Efemena_xy: Likewise, pre-marriage, she too would pay off those bills. That is, if she's even been brought up to live independently and pay her own way through life.

Nope women are never brought up to pick their own bills and pay for themselves Its the men that are supposed to care for them in coogars world

coogar: if he was staying alone, he would not pay his utility bills, he would not buy ankara or buy his own cream? he would not buy foodstuff? what are you guys talking about for effing sake? i think the nigerian society raises the males to be lazy, useless and too dependent - many of them stay with their parents till marriage so its not surprising paying utilities in marriage seems strange and they complain when the wife reminds them of what needs to be paid!

Its not exactly rocket science that household expenses are easier to manage when two people work instead of one person

A man can send the kids to Onward nursery, the wife can contribute and they can go to Corona, The man can afford Fish on eba, the woman can contribute to make it turkey on rice, The man can afford Agege the woman can contribute to make it Magodo

And Its actually the Western world that emphasizes working mothers rather than the Nigerian society that raises males to be lazy

Sisi_Kill: Except there a empirical evidence to show children of one side of the divide are better brought up than the other. . .can we just accept that how a child turns out isn't an exact science? Is not in this say world we are living where twins with the same genetic makeup, brought up in the same home, with the same experiences. . .turn out differently??!! So let's drop the whole parents who are practically in their child's face every hour of the day raise better children.

So theres no evidence to suggest children of working parents turn out worse than those of housewives then whats the overwhelming argument in support of "housewifery"

Yahoo CEO Marissa Meyer is a working Mom.

Maybe her son would turn out to be An Agbero

13volts: When an igbo coach select only his ethnic group in a national team. This is more like Biafra National team

Super Eagle or Super Igbos?

Yeah keshi is Igbo even Jonathan and Obasanjo plus IBB are Igbo

Now go and pick soda soap and wannnk yourself to death

coogar: refer to the quote of the NFF official i quoted earlier.....

so what does that prove? that he refused to show up means he lied?

The same person who claimed that Kanu being unable to walk after a game meant he lied

And did Kodjo Williams refer to Kanus Atlanta 96 team you tool?

House Wife: He brought the bills for PHCN, LAWMA, Security, Water and Sanitation. Iya Agba too phoned that she needs money for that medicine we promised her last month. Mama Kemi brought the Ankara material for her father’s burial. Its N5,000 for 6 yards. We don’t seem to have enough foodstuffs again ooooooooo.

Husband: (Grunts)

House Wife: Ehen, you promised to give me the money for my cream yesterday. Junior’s food is finished oooooooooooo. I want to do my hair tomorrow ooooooooooo to enable me attend Iya Kofo daughter’s naming ceremony. I will need some pocket money as well. Even though I don’t have a shoe that will match the colour of the lace material, I will manage the black one any way

Of all the expenses above only one relates to a child

Whether procreation or not he would still have to pay

" bills for PHCN, LAWMA, Security, Water and Sanitation. Iya Agba too phoned that she needs money for that medicine we promised her last month. Mama Kemi brought the Ankara material for her father’s burial. Its N5,000 for 6 yards. We don’t seem to have enough foodstuffs again ooooooooo.
the money for my cream yesterday. I want to do my hair tomorrow ooooooooooo to enable me attend Iya Kofo daughter’s naming ceremony. I will need some pocket money as well. Even though I don’t have a shoe that will match the colour of the lace material, I will manage the black one any way"

Mala kill Fulani

Case closed

oyb: you mean come for 'power enter'

[size=5pt]google warri pastor power enter[/size]

Power enter, enter power power enter enter power repeat till fades

[size=18pt]Ideye(Thunder Balogun) remember your left legg[/size]

coogar: there's nothing bad in the full housewife situation....if there's anything, say it out clearly and let's debate over it.

If theres nothign wrong with it live with it.

I prefer the second scenario even with the imperfections

^^ Which whole squad cheated and whats the evidence a whole squad cheated?

In so doing, he lifted the veil on an everyday story of fraud, corruption and possibly even blackmail in contemporary Latin American soccer.

Another Brazilian Breno Borges

"However, Breno refused to sign with Real Madrid after they wanted a bone analysis to prove his young age."

berem: I hear say you be pastor. I saw a thread you were showing your pastoral skills. lol

I be Pastor oo.

Oya come for anointing and baptism in the river which would be done nakkid

All we are sayinggggggg give us one goal

coogar: look at this tool.....
tell us a player playing for his national team that cheated and he's bringing out club football....this is why we call you a tool! separate club football from international football. fifa would not ban brazil cos eribertos cheated in serie a. we are talking about nigeria's achievements in the olympics(international football competition) and not club football competition. olympics na club competition? abi have you lost your ability to reason?

Eriberto is no longer a Brazilian when he cheats A Brazilian player admitted to reducing his age by 4 yrs and this tool is telling us it was while playing for club? Can a statement be more daft? I mean

Eriberto claimed he was younger than he was, i bet you have never heard of Eriberto before now. Your football education is defective you need some lessons

Which nigerian player was caught in Atlanta 96 using a false age?

coogar: then give us an instance out of the over 2 million football players in history.
a player that couldn't walk again after a football game and he wasn't injured on the pitch. let us know a player who's supposed to be 32 but cannot straighten up after a football game. even harry's physios told him kanu was 42 when kanu signed for pompey! what do you know about sports science?

Recently here in Dallas a football player Dez Bryant couldnt walk after a game he was aged 24

Apparently, his back was worse than we initially thought because he couldn’t walk while back in the locker room and even needed a wheelchair. Back injuries can be a tricky thing for athletes. Let’s just hope this doesn’t linger.

Dez Bryant’s back is so bad that he can’t walk. Just helped into the showers.

— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) December 31, 2012

Dez Bryant has to leave FedExField in a wheelchair.

— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) December 31, 2012

coogar: why was brazil as a nation not banned then? nigeria got banned and even had their hosting rights stripped off!
the case of the brazilian player was a one-off. the only incident that has ever happened in brazil. nigeria has been using age cheats in age grade competitions since the fall of man in eden.

Only incident you say?

Luciano Siqueira de Oliveira, known as Luciano and previously Eriberto (born 3 December 1975) is a Brazilian footballer who plays for Chievo.
Eriberto started his career at Palmeiras at aged 22 but publicly 18.
In 2002 he was exposed as holding a fake passport which claimed he was named Eriberto Conceição da Silva, born in Rio de Janeiro on January 21, 1979. For this he was handed a six-month ban and a $145,000 fine. He assumed the identity of someone who was then his neighbor in order to join the Palmeiras youth team, as he was too old

When I tell you that you dont know zilch about Eurpean football you start making noise.

Which astute follower of football wont know about Eribertos saga that dominated the news about 10yrs ago when he was one the rising star of Serie A

coogar: age falsification is brazil is not the same as in nigeria - you are a tool!
brazil have never been banned by any football federation for age fraud....nigeria got banned and this was what one of your countrymen said about it....

'We use over-age players for junior championships, I know that. Why not say it? It's the truth. We always cheat'.
Anthony Kojo Williams, NFF Chairman, 1999-2000.

Brazilian Carlos Alberto de Oliveira Júnior won the 2003 FIFA World Youth Championship using fake documents to claim that he was born in 24 January 1983. Because of this, he was banned for 360 days from football.[15]

This was a player born in 1978 claiming 1983

Those Redknapp quotes what were they supposed to mean? Kanus body gave up? Hello? 21yr olds bodies can give up on them

Afam4eva: Being number 6 is as good as not being there. What matters are the 3 top players. The other are just out there to complete the numbers. Mikel was rated number 2 and given a silver plaque. Kanu was not even given zink. I'm not saying Mikel is better than Kanu. I'm just using your criteria to attack you.

FIFA could as well not name the number 6 since Afam does not recognize it.

Mikel was 2nd best player in a tournament, Kanu was best player at the Olympics, Kanu won two CAF player of the year, Number 6 in the world number 11 in Europe When Mikel achieves these get back to me

Do you know what that is? Do you know the person who is next to him? Yet in Afams world he didnt win a Zinc. You need Chemiron and Alabukun

https://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42110000/jpg/_42110824_kanutrophy203.jpg

Afam4eva: For the sake of this argument, let's even assume that Kanu was not over aged in Atlanta. What did he achieve as a footballer that other players did not achieve. If we go by Dayo's logic then Mikel is Nigerias greatest ever player because in the youth championship in Holland, he took us to the final and even won the second best player in that competition. Mikel also won the Champions league for Chelsea.

Was Mikel rated number 6 in the world by FIFA, was he rated number 11 in Europe by UEFA? Did he captain Nigeria to win the Olympics our greatest football achievement?

Afam you need Orheptal blood tonic or Chemiron capsule

coogar: unless you have been living under a rock, you would know ronaldo lima was 19/20 during 96 olympics. he has a birth certificate to prove his age. kanu has none!

Did you see Ronaldos birth certificate? Anyone who believed Ronaldo was 19 in 1996 much be a certified dunce. Age falsification is common in Brazil as it is in Nigeria

You requested to see Kanus birth cert and he didnt show you?