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debosky: Highly debatable in my view - how do you define the 'most fluid' midfield? Is this 'midfield' more 'fluid' than Arsenal's where Walcott, Poldi, Arteta, Wilshere or Santi often emerge as the most forward player?

How can a 'midfield' that's featured Mikel in most games be called fluid?

Is fluidity equivalent to intricate passing or playing with three dwarf tricksters?

What exactly are the roles you define as 'midfield'?

Every midfield should have a fulcrum which is the role of Mikel, Khedira, Busquets, Carrick, Luiz gustavo, Song etc.

Thise ahead of them is what constitute this fluid midfield and fluid means flexible, Interchangeable Mata might be on the left right or center during games same with Oscar and Hazard .

You would hardly see Valencia on the left hand side Walcott sticks to the right, Podudski sticks to the left

coogar: who cares how/when he scored them? an obdurate wankër like yourself seem to always suggest torres has never performed for spain with xaviesta and that myth has been busted. torres has been performing for spain before you joined nairaland so go fück yourself with your watery analysis....

Everyone on this thread knows we are talking about Torres post Summer 2010, No one here cares what he did in High school.

Since 2010 How come he has been out of sync with Xavi and iniesta. Before I joined Nairaland Ronaldinho was the best player in the world so that should justify him being wannk at this time

other NT strikers like who? rooney? ronaldo? tevez? aguero? benzema? who??

Choose anyone you want and for convenience Maybe you can compare him to another striker who played consistently for Spain in that time frame David Villa

how many were from direct freekicks?

And torres was banned from scoring Free kick assisted goals? Or whats the point here dumbo

i sincerely meant goals scored from excellent team play rather than expecting a striker to score a hatrick all by himself. strikers need good service to thrive - torres get fed scraps....the moment he gets 2 half chances, chelsea fans are on his neck that he's dud but if you look at other strikers, they get 5-10 chances per game....united strikers can miss 5 good chances each in a game and one of them would still get a brace or hatrick!

Torres got fed scraps and the moment Sturridge started playing as the top 9 The midfield stopped feeding the striker scraps and started giving him

We ask how many goals Torres has scored since summer 2010 this one is mentioning goals scored in 2006 when Dinho was at the peak of his powers and Thierry Henry was leading Arsenals attack.

How many goals did Torres score for his NT between summer 2010 & now. Answer on a postcard

And compare him to other NT top strikers in the same timeframe.

BTW of hazards 8 assists only 2 were penalties

Chelsea at the moment play the most fluid midfield in the league and it's stupid to compare Chelsea of MAZACAR with Chelsea of Lampard Essen Ballack and Malouda.

If Chelsea is the problem how come Torres is also struggling with the Spanish NT.

How many goals has Torres scored for the NT since summer 2010

eggheaders: they have to fight for their dignity.this peeps have been so trampled upon by the Zionist. border control,harassment and molestation of their citizen and loads of tins

Which border is being controlled? And tell me which country in the world doesn't control its border? Doesn't Nigeria control her borders?

You haven't answered me, What do you want Israel to do? Palestine rains Missiles on them daily all throughout the year what do you expect Israel to do?

Israel took the missiles all year and retaliated in November.

Israel handed over control of Gaza in 2005 and many Israelis criticised the Israeli govt for that decision saying it would lead to more attacks and they were right, After Israel ceded control, Hamas won elections murdered the fatah officials and started terrorism in full scale

Do you know that the Hamas Charter calls for the destruction of Israel?

eggheaders: clearly this war is extremely disproportionate .some peeps using ragtag fajr 5 missiles and no missile defense system.compared to guys who gat iron domes,missile alarm system and protective shelther couple with drones f-16 fighter jets tomahawks .

So what do you want Israel to do? You want Israel to fold its hand while Palestinians rain missiles on them daily or what do you want them to do

The Palestinians know Israel is stronger than them, So tell me what they expect to happen when they attack a country stronger than them

If Uzbekistan attacks Russia what do you expect to happen?

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[quote author=A-40]The game in Turin cannot afford passengers abeg. Chelsea need at least a draw else it could be disaster and I think a draw is doable as Juve's attack is not that sharp they really have no consistency from either Vucinic,Asamoah,Giovinco or Matri so long as yall don't give them gifts in the defence[/quote]Unless they bunker like they did in Munich then you can at least expect a David Luiz brainfart. Unless Ivanovic pairs Cahill when Azpilicueta plays RB

Scoring in Turin is vital and Chelsea needs to score first so they can sit back. Though Juves attack is blunt but dont think they would be as casual as Shaktar was 2 weeks ago

Azpilicueta-Ivanovic-Cahill-Bertrand

----Mikel--Ramires

-Mata--Hazard--Oscar

------Moses

Play Hazard to the middle and not on the left cos his lack of tracking back would be more costly on the left than in the center where he has ppl to cover

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Everyone has learnt from yar Adua and Patience

Ibime: Could the last ninja in the Torres camp (coogar) switch off the lights. It took some ninjas two years to come to the realisation that Torres has been finished since 2010 but only the most foolhardy would still be arguing the case now. As I said at the start of the season, Lukaku and Sturridge are better than Torres. Let's give them half the chances afforded shopkeeper then take it from there if they fail to fire. Changes are afoot for Juventus match from all the reports. Let's hope our forwards fire and our defence holds firm in Turin. Whether boys like it or not, this Chelsea team is one defensive midfielder and one striker away from posing real title threat. Sturridge may or may not solve the striker issue but the defensive midfield solution does not lie within the club at present. I would like sos to be sent to the likes of Nigel De Jong. God be with us in Turin and protect us from all Marchisios. Amen.

Na marchisio you dey think wait till you see what Vidal does on your team

coogar: look at this obdurate tool.....so only a lead striker can get a chance to score in 90 mins? sturridge played full 90 mins, torres played far less than that......and you still expect torres to cop more shots on target than sturridge? this is hilarious.....i never knew there's a law that says inside forwards are not allowed to score if they find themselves in good positions....

So if an inside forward is getting 3 shots on target in 90mins, How many shots on target did the center forward get in his time on the pitch?

Sturridge had 3 shots on target in the game, How many of the 12 games Torres played this season did he have as much as 3 shots on target. Despite being the top striker in all games

or did Torres also play as an inside forward? TOOLalan?

coogar: you are a kike....
how is this different from what torres cops per game - sturridge had only 3 shots on target....it's too low for any striker to score hatricks from? a striker should be having 7-10 pokes in a game with mata/hazard/oscar!!!

you argue like a dunce.....

How many mins did Sturridge spend on the field as a striker.

If in 30mins Sturridge had 3 Chances then in 90min how many chances would he have had? Sturidge had 3 shots on target, How many shots on target does Torres cop per game

Yesterday Sturridge spent 30 mins as striker, Torres spent 60mins as striker how many shots on target did he have?

Mandelaguy: Sarcasm will never solve the problem of this nation. GEJ has good plans and policies, we all should be asking for the will to implement them? I heard him making promises of giving us many things to be proud of b the time he leaves office with his team. We should encourage and criticise analytically while waiting to hit them on their failures, as or, we cannot change anything for now. Without our supports,any government we put in place will fail.

Neither would executive cluelessness solve the problems of this country

If this is all Retardeen Jonathan has to offer then I am sorry . I eat twice a day, I eat simple food, I eat fish peppersoup. I dont drink Kaikai, I drink ogogoro. WTF

It just reinforces that we have a retardd for a President

If Retardeen Jonathan has a PhD no wonder Dangote is making PhD holders drive trucks

coogar: it seems your brain is under your feet....
sturridge gets no chance, he shoots from distances and angles where scoring is a tad impossible! he's a tool - 7 shots on target and no goal - 6 of those 7 shots on target weren't clearcut!

maybe in your dementia you were watching another game thinking you were watching Chelsea

The contrast with the striker leading Chelsea's front line could not have been greater. Fernando Torres once again looked out of sorts and he was predictably withdrawn in the second half, when Di Matteo sent on the cavalry in the form of Juan Mata and Oscar. Daniel Sturridge was thrust further forward and looked much more threatening but the goal that Chelsea coveted never came. The excellent Boaz Myhill denied him with two superb saves before Sturridge drilled a presentable chance beyond the far upright in the final three minutes
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/17/west-bromwich-albion-chelsea-premier-league

Myhill made a fine save to turn aside Sturridge's close range flick after Mata's ball had opened up the West Brom defence. He then went down to cling on to Hazard's deflected shot as Chelsea delivered wave after wave of attacks.

Sturridge should have made it 2-2 with three minutes left but screwed his shot across the face of goal.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1229795/west-brom-shocks-chelsea,-old-boss-roberto-di-matteo?cc=5901

Myhill, who was signed at Albion by Di Matteo and was only playing due to Ben Foster’s groin injury, excelled again to deny Sturridge and the Chelsea striker then wasted a glorious chance three minutes from time as Albion clung on for another deserved scalp on home turf.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/9682572/West-Bromwich-Albion-2-Chelsea-1-match-report.html

Yet this tool is telling us Sturridge didnt get chances yesterday

Maybe you should ask from people who actually watched the game.

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Aji sebi Oyo laari. Adieu Lam Adeshina

13 players have scored more goals than Torres and these strikers dont have 2 assist Kings like Hazard and Mata behind them

coogar: you are a complete pleb!
what chances did sturridge get? sturridge that has no common sense and would shoot from acute angles when he should be passing? is walcott or david silva crazy for laying it on the plate for their forwards? sturridge does not have a football sense....he shoots from all angles - fernando torres does not operate in that dumb way! when there's a better alternative, torres takes it.......

So how come Fernando Torres isn't getting the same kind of chances Sturridge got yesterday. If sturridge that doesn't have a football sense is getting those chances and Fernandud that has this awesome football sense isn't getting neither chances nor goals

debosky: Let's apply this 'basic' common sense to last season - at this point last season, how many goals did Aguero have compared to 'older' players who had spent longer in the league such as Drogba, Rooney and RVP?

Dobo, You are not making sense. Let me bring you back to topic, why is Fernandud Torres useless in the last 2 years regardless of which midfielders he plays with

debosky: You are the one asserting that Torres should be performing better than Giroud. He who asserts must prove.

Isn't it basic common sense that new players would struggle in a new league and club compared to older players who have spent 5years in the league

debosky: Ask Chelski's fans - I don't know. Sharon seems to be implying that Chelski aren't playing to FT9's strengths.

How come you are repeating Sharon's opinion when you don't even understand it nor can back it up

He eats twice a day. He eats fish pepper soup and drink kaikai.

All hail retardeen

nateevs: Jeez! It's amazing how much time you devote to this.
Every single day, you have nothing else to talk about.
Even Chelsea fans have less to say.
For the record, someone signed in on my PC.

No be fight. Na just your opinion on your favorite player we need. How come Sturridge wa getting the chances from the same midfield that Fernanduds advocates said doesn't create

nateevs: Hehehehe. Truth? Ninjah Please!
Truth from a guy who never has an opinion!
Delusions of granduer.

Hi Mr SeanGizzy.

How far with Fernandud

debosky: Giroud's team mates are playing to his strengths. . . .are Torres' team mates doing the same?

What is Torres strength . What's this mysterious. Strength that no one can play to. That Lampard malouda Anelka Mata Oscar Hazard. Xavi Iniesta Silva Fabregas cant understand. Is this some sort of Supernatural strength

Abi ooh. They said Chelsea don't create chances for their strikers but Sturridge showed that the problem is not with the midfielders. they can create chances if there is an intelligent striker playing ahead. Thank God that myth has been busted already. We are waiting for the next Set of excuses

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I knew Ibadan-Oyo-Ogbomoso-Ilorin road was awarded by OBJ govt but abandoned sometime.

I still think its the FG that completed it

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See as una dey disgrace Dende left right and center

And na person Papa be dis

Why didnt Patience GEJ win

Twatchester United very useless team