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elampiro: I don hear. You don win.

In 15 years time, it will remain the same. I am never going to watch Bundesliga, Seria A and Laliga as much as I watch EPL. I watch a bit much of Laliga.

I have many areas in life I have interest. Even on TV, I have lots of other programs of interest. I am a lover of reality shows/competition like Xfactor, American gots talent, idols, so you think you can dance, etc. For instance, if there is a clash between Xfactor and a match let's say Man C vs Villa. I will watch the Xfactor.

When I go to internet, my interest first is religion websites. When I am through before I will check facebook, nairaland and yahoo news, etc.

Are you kidding me? Which straight guy would sit and watch "So you think you can dance" or "America got talents" what else I am sure you like wedding shows, Real housewives of Atlanta, Oprah Winfrey show

Now your bromance with coogar is starting to make more sense

Efemena_xy: See this man o!

Na me first congratulate you - and you bypass me?

Haba!

Your own greeting na special one. But first tell me the name of the suspect in this scandal

wonlasewonimi: Come on bro don't let me tell everyone your wife's name in full.

My wifes name does not start with J.

So Mr Asewo what are we saying?

lady gogo: congratulations Dayokanu!

Thanks lady

ileobatojo: Dk really got married recently? Congrats dude!

a man should not be alone and I am inspired by the outward show of romance between you and coogar.

coogar: when are you going to reveal it was a gay wedding?

Everyone know of your bromance with elampiro

wonlasewonimi: Lol I'm not the one. I don't do NL girls

Dayokanu congrats mate, say hello to J

Who is J?

elampiro: @dayokanu, I don't argue about the aspect of the game I am limited. I hardly argue about Bundesliga except when it's the big 1 or 2 teams. I won't argue Seria A so deeply. I also did not argue about this their so called yeye BMI.

Any argument I involve myself I must have watched the match or an area I have been equipped over the years.

You dont know La Liga, You dont know Bundesliga you dont know Serie A, even the EPL it wasnt until DSTV days and Rooney times before you started watching yet you make too much noise

I am sure all you know about football can be written on a grain of rice.

elampiro: Have you ever seen me arguing Bundesliga? It's an uninteresting league. I can't bore myself with unnecessary details.

Yet players from this uninteresting league beat Players from the interesting league in Wembley.

Tactical football is too complex for you to understand, I think you would also like the excitement of WWF

elampiro: Plenty words? If I wanted to argue that match with you, I will still be on it now. Where did I use plenty words?

You started the joke by saying Germany used team C players.

Everyone who watched the game knew this is true

They started a 33yr old Keeper making a debut. Every sport analyst know this wont look anything like the German starting team in a serious game yet they handed a buttsmack to the 3 rats as usual

elampiro: I am okay with the football knowledge I have. Football is just an entertainment to me. I am not a sports writer or TV analyst. If you, Coogar, Starboard and anyone else want to claim superiority of knowledge, it's ok. How many matches can one even watch a weekend? It looks to me it's you guys who spend time reading papers, watching clips and studying opta stat.

Then you should stay where your football knowledge puts you not as an elite but as a below par one who gets his stats from pool sheet, Doesnt watch games, Just argue to just say something

Plenty words are no substitutes for facts

coogar: but it was later cleared sheringham assisted the second goal, not beckham.

then today again, you said united scored off 2 corner kicks delivered by beckham. that first goal was a pin-ball moment. beckham's delivery was no longer an issue as the equaliser itself was a goal mouth scramble..

Beckhams corner was what led to the goal mouth scramble and I didnt credit Beckham with the first assist, it was the second one I erroneously credited to Beckham

elampiro: AntiRooney Coogar and Starboard, you guys are really funny.

I knew the point I was trying to make with the England shot on post. Dayokanu knew people didn't watch the friendly match due to the qualifying matches payed simultaneously.

WHo are the people that didnt watch the friendly? You think everyone depends on Pool sheets for football analysis?

The match and he was exaggerating his comments by saying Germany were wasting chances and he never made it look like England even played. Unfortunately stat made it look like England did not even make a good attempt. So I had to find a way to let people know that England could also have scored

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Exagerrating my comments? Go to any football webite check the number of save Joe Hart made and compare with Weidenfeller

Below was what BBC wrote abi BBC too was exagerrating

"Hart was England's outstanding performer, saving superbly from Mertesacker before his goal and from Marco Reus and Mario Gotze in the second half."

"England hit the post against Germany but failed to have a shot on target in a home game for the first time since losing 1-0 to Scotland in the second leg of their Euro 2000 play-off in November 1999. Source: Opta"

I wasn't really serious with my response to dayokanu last nite on the friendly match. Even my listing of Carrick, Baines, as having missed the match was just to say something, but not to argue seriously. He was even accusing me of running away.

And what do you call this? You didnt watch the match you were busy reading pool sheets yet came here just to say something for the sake of it?

Thats not how intelligent beings behave

coogar: dayokanu, this is fraudulent....
there was about a period of 10 secs between beckham's delivery & the first goal. actually, it was a pinball moment with schmeichel & about 5/6 other players touching the ball in a goalmouth scramble before the goal - how can you credit that goal to beckham?

This was my initial post in October. It was the second goal assist I credited to Beckham not the first

dayokanu: Prove me wrong

Giggs assisted the first goal in the 1999 epic final, Beckham assisted the goal for the second .

I would help you self diagnoze your insanity

https://www.nairaland.com/871307/official-manchester-united-fan-thread/484#18691992

Kroos shitting on everyone in Wembley


England v Germany - Passing
Player Team Passes
Toni Kroos Germany 109
Lars Bender Germany 74
Phil Jagielka England 55
Chris Smalling England 54
Mario Gotze Germany 52

More needed from Sturridge

Daniel Sturridge: Ineffective

With eight goals so far this season, Daniel Sturridge is the joint-top scorer in the Premier League and his exciting partnership with the brilliant Luis Suarez has raised hopes of a similarly devastating partnership being formed with Wayne Rooney at international level. And yet, despite brief flashes of interplay between the duo, England rarely troubled the Germany defence where it mattered. In fact, the home team failed to register a single shot on target against Jogi Low's side and Sturridge himself rarely threatened to be the man to find the breakthrough. For a player in form and eager to impress, that has to be regarded as an opportunity wasted

The way injuries have ravaged Bayern and Dortmund this season you go think say dem offend person ni

Hummels and Schmelzer out injured

On the Bayern side, Robben doubtful, Schweinsteiger out till January, Shaqiri would be fit in 2 weeks same with Thiago

chaircover: Congrats Dayo & wishing you a happy married life

Ujujoan: Awww Dayo . . . CONGRATS!

He who finds a wife findeth a good thing . . . HML!

pickabeau1: thats a nice one bro

Happy Married Life Dayo

Thank you all. ooo Nagode, Ese pupo, daalu

Akinmail: how come you understand yoruba. I always thought you were one those ibos that hated us and blamed us for everything. I got this from your posts on different topics on frontpage. Or are you not ifyalways ?

Noo you got it wrong

Ifyalways is a naturalised daughter of Oduduwa, Her best food is black amala

elampiro: It is clear you have watched plenty of youtube or you have watched these videos again recently or you are a man of 45 years of age to have been so passionate about knowing every player name in 1992 and being able to easily recall now.

Till now, when Man United play big teams as Porto, Monaco, Leverkusen I will not be able to mention more than half of the players names the next day. I will just know we played against 11 men and I saw some of their good players which I could recall their names.

My interest in football is limited to EPL, UCL big matches. Some Laliga matches particularly Madrid and Barca fixtures. Seria top fixtures, sometimes when Bayern and Dortmund meet. Very scantily other leagues. Then the FIFA, CAF, COPA, EURO cups, etc. When Man United beat Leverkusen 4-1, ask me about who scored the one for Leverkusen, I don't know and I don't intend to know. It adds nothing to me. The ones I knew are already enough stress.

So if you like shout from the roof top EPL fans know nothing about other leagues or how elampiro can't remember some things in early '90s, I don't care and won't ever care. I know one of our heroes then was a certain Jin Pere @apin (not sure of the names spellings), but ask me questions about him now, I have since forgotten.
I have a relative who watches football like the way a bank manager is glued to his computer. He watches even South Africa league and knows details. May be in this your new line of argument, I can call him to come and face you. Lol

All those details you want me to know, may be when I become a football analyst for Super Sports, I can begin to make effort to be so detail. If I am not so detail now is memorizing names of players, you could imagine how it was for me in 20 years back when I was preparing to write WAEC, JAMB, etc.

This is just going to buttress the fact that you know nothing about European football and dont watch games just read online

How would you know when you only watch Man Utd and focus on Rooney. The first step is to watch the games and know at least the stars of the opposition

By the way how did Jin Pere @apin (not sure of the names spellings) become one of your heroes?

BTW go and learn about this pose at Wembley

https://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/06/06/SBOtterill.jpg

GustavoFring: This same Dayo writing a treatise on European football is the same one that claimed that David Beckham had 2 assists in the '99 Champions league final ....

If you cannot remember the momentous events that occurred in a final against your own club,events that happened more recently than '93,'95, and '98, how can you prove that you are not a copy and paste master?

You dey accuse Elampiro when you sef na gaffe master.

I laugh in Portuguese.

In the Champions League final Man Utd scored off two corners which were delivered by whom? David Beckham

edoyad: Ordinary friendly na him some people no want make we hear word. Okay, south Africa beat Spain, Nunana Nelson Bongeve III is better than the Spanish eleven.

World cup Germany 4 England 1

Friendly with Germany B. England 0 Germany 1

So pick anyone you want whether na Friendly or na Enemyly

elampiro: I was not as detailed with European players but I watched very ery many many matches. I knew many English plauers like Rush, Lineker,

This is what we are all saying you were clueless about European football until the days of DSTV.

You need to now calm down and learn the rudiments not just jump into arguments

Copy and paste wont reveal everything to you in football

Copy and paste would never relive great moments like Nayim lobbing David Seaman in the Cup winners cup final in 1995,
It would never reveal to you the lightning fast counter attack of Hector Cupers valencia
It would never relive the joy of watching Valeron and Diego tristan at Deportivo
It would never duplicate the exhilarating CL semi final game between Dortmund and Man Utd in 1997 where the Iron curtain defence reigned
It would never give you the joy of watching George Weah and Ginola at PSG molesting every defence in 1995
Nor the fleet footed Marco Simeone of AC Milan with his white boot running the Reiziger almost ragged or the battle of Del Piero vs Bogarde in 1996

Nor the greatest hat trick of all time scored by Rivaldo to qualify Barcelona for the CL, Nor the Free kick hat trick by Sinisa Mihajlovic, Or Marcelo Salas taking a dump on the Man Utd defence in the 1999 Supercup, Nor Lars Ricken scoring with his first touch in the CL final of 97 nor The cock pose of Andy Moller, Poborsky lobbing the Portuguese keeper, Davor Suker rounding Andreas Kopke and in Euro 96, and the Croat getting their revenge 2yrs later

How do I want to start explaining the chemistry between Gheoghe hagi, Iliev Dumitrescu and Florin Radicioui or the combination of Martin Dahlin, Thomas brolin and Kenneth Andersen you wont even read about the combination of Stiochkov, Kasimir balakov, Emile Kostadinov backed by Iordan "apari" letchkov all in US 94

[size=14pt]Walahi football is sweet when you watch it not when you just read about it copy and paste. Elampiro enroll for lessons first not this pool result[/size]

Nothing is as good as watching a good game of football

Roland17: LAST WORDS...

And what impact did the second coming of Diesler and effenburg have in both legs?

Kos played alongside a waste pipe who shouldn't have been invited to the squad in the first place based on his form with Monaco(Abidal), Kos shouldered the bulk of defending in the first leg as Abidal was caught unawares severally..

Kos made a very poor decision with that challenge on zozulya, he took things personal with Zozulya but if he had not been sent off he would have partnered Varane tonight no questions..

Sooo you are scared of putting Ribery in the same conversation as CR7 and Zlatan? What exactly did Ribery contribute in both legs, I gave you names of players that single handedly took France to Brazil (Valbuena, Cabaye and Sakho)

Simply put, Ribery was missing in action in both legs, he was a non factor and was never a threat.

Basically Koscielny was about sending France out of the world cup before Ribery, Valbuena, Cabaye, Pogba Sakho etc rallied round to save France from the ditch Koscielny landed them

What a waste pipe

Without Kos Clean sheet

^^ We are talking about Koscielny you said you brought facts about Ronaldo scoring a Hat trick?

Is Ronaldo the topic of discussion? or who on the web doesnt know Ronaldo scored a hat trick

Ok let me give you a similar fact. France qualified without Koscielny

dademola: Dayo.... Are u bayern fan or na Germany u dey support?

Clubside football- Bayern Munich

National team football - Germany

This is easier since most Bayern players are also German internationals

elampiro: England had no Cahil, Baines, Carrick, Welbeck, Walcott, Cherberlain. That Lallana is worse than Brown Ideye is goal scoring. I saw him against Chile wasting clear chances.

Cahill Baines etc played against Chile and were woeful and they had to be dropped for poor performance

Today they played Ashley Cole and Gibbs who are more experienced and better than Baines

How can anyone be complaining they missed Baines when Cashley and Gibbs dey there?

They had Gerrard, Rooney(Top assist provider in EPL) inform Sturridge(Joint top scorer in EPL) and youre complaining about Walcott, Welbeck and Chamberlain who have barely played this season? Does that make sense?

Would Portugal play Ronaldo and still complain they were missing Pauleta, Would ma Utd play RvP and complain they were missing Macheda?
Or would barca play Messi and complain they are missing Tello?

elampiro: What do you know about pool?

I thought you said friendly matches are not to be taken seriously? Now you won and you want to brag. England is trying to find a working formation, the friendly match was not to be won. Just to try things out. Lol

I don sleep o.

The only country trying out anything was Germany who fielded their second string side and rested most of their big guns. Even gave debut to a 33yr old keeper

England tried everything they could and still failed miserably at home in Wembley Una no get shame ni?

elampiro: Germany tried. But all these your Cruize, Crooks and roos are they team C?

Germany team B tried?

A team that had no Neuer, Lahm, Schweinisteiger, Ozil, Muller, Khedira, Gomez nor Klose

So now tell us if a German team B can molest England like this how can any English player now make the german team

[size=18pt]1-0 to the Arsenal! Per Mertesacker heads Germany B to 1-0 win at Wembley[/size]

http://www.101greatgoals.com/goals/internationals/england-v-germany-team-sheets/

The last time England beat Germany in Wembley is 1975.

elampiro: Let's start from there. Although we will continue in the morning.

Running away as usual abi you dey go find stats from Pool sheet or website to copy and paste from?

Ronaldo scored a Hat trick
Zlatan scored a brace
Ribery provided an assist

What did Koscielny do?

elampiro: I thought I heard England hit the post. How do they now have zero shot on target? Or post is off target?

So in your own reckoning a shot that hit the post is on target?

Is the post the target?

elampiro: Which one is German C team? Give us team list and sub let's see.

Let's start from there. Although we will continue in the morning.

Lineup, Bookings (0) & Substitutions (11)
England

01 Hart
02 Walker
03 Cole (Gibbs - 53' )
08 Cleverley (Wilshere - 64' )
05 Smalling
06 Jagielka
11 Townsend
04 Gerrard (Henderson - 56' )
09 Sturridge
10 Rooney (Barkley - 71' )
07 Lallana (Lambert - 76' )

Substitutes

12 Johnson
13 Ruddy
14 Baines
15 Gibbs
16 Cahill
17 Milner
18 Lampard
19 Barkley
20 Wilshere
21 Henderson
22 Lambert
23 Forster
24 Defoe
25 Rodriguez

Germany

22 Weidenfeller
23 Westermann (Draxler - 67' )
03 Schmelzer (Jansen - 45' )
15 Bender
17 Mertesacker
20 Boateng (Hummels - 45' )
19 Götze
02 Bender
14 Kruse (Höwedes - 56' )
18 Kroos
21 Reus (Schürrle - 82' )

Substitutes

04 Höwedes
05 Hummels (Höwedes - 65' )
07 Jansen
09 Schürrle
10 Draxler
12 Adler
13 Müller
24 Sam


Match Stats
Possession45%55%90minsEnglandGermany
Shots
8 15
On target
0 5
Corners
11 6
Fouls
15 12


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24907635

@Katsumoto,

Did you see Sturridge or Rooney anywhere today?

BBC says England 0 shots on Target germany 5 shots

Thats to show how inferior they were to the Germans