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I really don't want to insult you but don't you think a simple goggle search would have been a better option that coming here to ask questions about your Aunt. Making people talk about her anyhow: someone who doesn't know she has a nephew like you who doesn't seem to mind his own business.

GreatAchiever1:
I'm puzzled by your statement. Are you suggesting it's inappropriate for someone to use the Bible to support and defend their argument, labeling it as "the Christian way"? Allow me to ask: isn't that precisely what a Christian should do? Isn't it a fundamental aspect of Christian Apologetics, as outlined in 1 Peter 3:15? If you believe my argument, rooted in the Bible, is flawed, I invite you to present your counterargument using the Bible. However, if your objection stems from viewing the Bible itself as flawed then It may seem your alignment with worldly norms might be clouding your understanding of biblical truths regarding gender roles in this case.



Ah, I see! This statement confirms my initial suspicion about your perspective, based on your earlier paragraph. As someone who identifies as a Christian, shouldn't the Bible be the primary source used to support an argument, especially if it addresses the topic at hand? You mentioned that the Bible has loopholes, but I disagree. It seems you reject certain teachings of the Bible because they conflict with ideologies you cherish due to your affinity for worldly principles, which I should inform is not a characteristic of a Christian.



I'm intrigued by your use of the term "doormat"; being submissive to one's husband doesn't equate to being a doormat, unless I suggested being submissive to all men, which would indeed be problematic and worthy of discussion. Let me clarify: men and women are both human beings and deserve equal rights and justice. However, that's not the focus of our current discussion. I'm attempting to explain the concept of patriarchy and challenge the false notion of equality. If you choose not to embrace a submissive role in marriage, that's entirely your decision. However, I urge you not to vilify patriarchy as depicted in the Bible, especially if you want to identify as a Christian, as it's akin to denouncing what God ordained as good, which is intrinsically sinful.



Firstly, men strength is not used for domestic violence, quit saying nonsense and also, are you certain that men and women are equal in all aspects, aside from physical strength attributed to testosterone in men?

Men typically have a higher red blood cell count than women, granting them superior physical endurance.

In terms of physical characteristics, men generally possess thicker and tougher skin, about 25% thicker than women's, making them better suited for combat situations.

While studies suggest that men and women have similar average intelligence, there tends to be greater variability in intelligence among men. This means that while there may be more men with below-average intelligence, there are also more highly intelligent and genius-level men compared to women.

Men often exhibit a greater propensity for risk-taking behavior, which can contribute to their success in areas such as business, science, and warfare.

Moreover, men tend to be better at compartmentalizing their emotions, a trait that can be advantageous in leadership roles or high-stress environments.

With a tendency towards left-brain dominance and a task-oriented mindset, combined with their physical attributes such as higher endurance, muscle mass, and thicker skin, men are well-suited to fulfill their roles as providers, protectors, and leaders, as designed by God.

The moment you and other modern women under the false god of equality realise this cold hard bitter pill to swallow, then the better for everyone else.

OK I see. I honestly don't want to have this banter with you but all I can say is to have a mindset change. Your wife doesn't have to be submissive to you, you shouldn't be expecting that. She is your equal. Marriage is a partnership not a dominator and a submissive. If you can find someone who buys your ideals and all, then good for you. But don't hold your breath.


Your whole point on male masculinity and intelligence just proves what I earlier said. The earlier you realise most woken in this day and age won't "bow" to you just because you are a man, the better for you. Develop the mindset that your partner is your equal, she doesn't have to be submissive to you just because and I would continue to say using the Bible as an argument especially knowing the how conventional it is to support your ideals isn't something anyone should take seriously when bantering with you.

JessicaRabbit:
Congratulations! You've successfully identified Afghanistan and Pakistan as bastions of patriarchy. But using them as a benchmark for "true" patriarchy is like judging a fish by its ability to climb trees. It doesn't make sense. Every society exhibits patriarchy on a spectrum, with varying degrees of severity and nuances in its manifestations. Nigeria, with its undeniable limitations on women's opportunities and the prevalence of traditional gender roles, certainly falls somewhere on that spectrum. To blithely claim it's not patriarchal because it doesn't perfectly mirror other societies is like saying an object didn't burn because they aren't a pile of ashes. So, while you're not entirely wrong about the characteristics of a patriarchal society, painting the picture with such broad strokes does a disservice to the complexities of individual cultures.



Ok. Let's address the elephant in the room. History and psychology are vast landscapes, and cherry-picking data to support a predetermined conclusion is a recipe for intellectual dishonesty. A nuanced understanding of these fields reveals the complexities of human behavior, free from the shackles of rigid gender stereotypes. Are there differences in how individuals express emotions? Absolutely. But to claim it's solely based on gender is not just inaccurate, it's harmful. It ignores the vast spectrum of human experience and reduces individuals to mere caricatures. Your claim about men's supposed rationality and women's supposed emotionality is a classic case of mistaking correlation for causation. Yes, certain societal roles may appear to align with these stereotypes, but to attribute them to biology or divine design is not only scientifically unsound but also deeply problematic.

Now, about the term "abusive." While subjectivity can play a role, there are well-established definitions and legal frameworks to identify and address abusive behavior. Minimizing or dismissing these frameworks only emboldens abusers and silences victims. Personally, as a humanist, safeguarding individual safety and well-being is paramount.



I should clarify here that I am not dismissing your historical interpretation as selective, but rather as inaccurate and incomplete. You claim that research shows that Western countries, especially America, were founded on patriarchal principles. However, this is a gross oversimplification of the complex and diverse history of the West. While it is true that patriarchy has been a dominant system in many Western societies, it is not the only one, nor is it the original one. There is ample evidence of pre-patriarchal and non-patriarchal cultures in the West, such as the ancient Minoans, the Celts, the Basques, and some Native American tribes. These cultures had more egalitarian and cooperative social structures, where women and men had equal rights and responsibilities, and where gender roles were more flexible and fluid. And even within patriarchal Western societies, there have been many movements and individuals who challenged and resisted the status quo, and who advocated for gender equality and justice e.g feminists, abolitionists, the LGBTQ+ community, etc. These movements have contributed to the social, political, and legal changes that have improved the lives and opportunities of women and other marginalized groups in the West. So if you say that the West was founded on patriarchal principles, you are simply ignoring the diversity and dynamism of Western history, and erasing the struggles and achievements of those who fought for a more just and inclusive society.

I also want to address your point about Abrahamic religions and traditional gender roles. You say that as a Christian, you adhere to the gender roles depicted in the Bible, as ordained by God. However, I wonder if you are aware of the multiple and contradictory views on gender and sexuality that exist in the Bible, and how they have been interpreted and applied differently by various Christian denominations and traditions over time. The Apostle Paul affirms the equality of man and woman by identifying women as laboring alongside men in ministry, affirming many theological truths that entail the equality of men and women, and explicitly affirming their equality. All of that said, I don't actually rate the Bible when it comes to discussions like this, due to it's inherent inconsistencies and flaws, but I guess that's a topic for another thread.



The "root cause" of domestic abuse? It's not a singular, magical answer. It's a complex web of factors, including societal inequalities, power imbalances, and individual experiences with violence, mental health, and substance abuse. Blaming the victim or suggesting their behavior somehow justifies abuse is quite insensitive, if you ask me. As for Uju's suggestion? It's frankly baffling. Asking victims to be silent is like putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound. It might appear to "solve" the problem momentarily, but the underlying issue festers. We need to tackle the root causes, empower victims, and hold perpetrators accountable. In domestic abuse cases, there are no "sides." There's an abuser and a victim. Period. It's not a debate club.



I hope you're aware the Bible you keep citing represents a specific religious perspective, not universal truth. And even within that framework, interpretations vary widely. Equating a divine entity ruling over a congregation to a human marriage is a dangerous stretch. It implies the husband is somehow divinely ordained to "discipline" his wife, which reeks of outdated, paternalistic views. Secondly, the claim that wives initiate disrespect more often than not is not only demonstrably untrue (studies show aggression is more prevalent from male partners in abusive relationships), but it also plays right into the dangerous narrative of victim-blaming. It implies that the victim's behavior somehow justifies an abusive response.



Benevolent patriarchy" is an oxymoron. The very foundation of patriarchy is built on inherent power imbalances and the suppression of individual liberties, regardless of its perceived benefits. Just because someone benefits from a system doesn't negate its inherent flaws. We can't ignore the countless voices who have been historically silenced and marginalized under patriarchal structures. Furthermore, the notion that a woman's fulfillment solely lies in submissive behavior within a "respectable" patriarchal framework is frankly insulting. It assumes women are incapable of agency and independent thought. We are not trophies or prizes to be "held in high regard" based on our ability to conform to outdated ideals.

And it's quite patronizing of you to suggest that we should embrace a "submissive role". True respect in a relationship is fostered by acknowledging and celebrating each other's individuality, not by expecting one partner to suppress their voice and agency.

I love how you are going back and forth with this individual but from what can I decipher from his responses(which I skimmed through because it reeked of misogynistic ideals which irks me). I would say for someone to use the bible as a basis of their argument and to try to paint a picture that fits into the mold of "the Christian way" is already full of faults. I would say don't bother with the banter with him again.


As a Christian myself, I find it amusing when the bible is used to reference things just to drive home a point. As you mentioned the bible (forgive me for saying) has quite a number of loopholes which individuals like this male try to mould to their tastes to be argumentative.


Women aren't doormats anymore. Stop trying to make them doormats. Stop with this submissive programme. Women have outgrown the patriarchy and men need to get with that programme. They need to understand everyone is a human being and has the right to their equality as human beings.




Let me burst your bubble, apart from physical strength which men use to perpetuate domestic violence and keep women silent during arguments. Both women and men are on par in everything else. The moment men realise this cold hard bitter pill to swallow, then the better for everyone else.

luminouz:
You won't insult me after saying I lack intellect? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Shey na compliment you shower me with then ni? OLODO rabata!!!

Oh, so my opinion is due to my 'poverty-riddled mindset'? I guess your own opinion is because you are rich? 🤣🤣🤣

You see how argumentative you already are. The minister is sha warning you or you go collect wotowoto.

Go and marry first. Then you go leaaaarrnnnnn!!!

This just proves my point. Mentioning wotowoto because I have a conflicting opinion to yours or because I called you ignorant or you lack intellect which is no way an insult.


Going through the quotes between you and another member of this ame issue who gave a response similar to mine. You had the same reaction. I can see you would be a person give your wife wotowoto if she so much as argues with you.


This is the reason why you and most people with this mindset need to be educated.

luminouz:
Shût ya ass up and stop being emotional. You and I both know the minister has a point. But feminazis like you Huff and Puff and end up saying nothing. What experience do you have to counter that of a woman who prolly is old enough to be your mother? Unless you don't understand English, she advocated for peace in the house and a way for women to handle issues with their husbands but here you are, screaming your head off, thinking by arguing incessantly is the way forward. Some women outrightly demean their husbands, some physically fight him, others deliberately frustrated his life to a point he lashes out the only way he knows, by physical violence. The minister is just saying you lots should mind how you address your husbands- FOR PEACE TO REIGN. Yet here you are, already abusing the men and calling them vile names. You need to take the minister's advice and learn to shût dafuq UP

Just to bust your bubble, domestic violence occurs abroad too but it's not talked about in newspapers.

This your post reeks of your ignorance of leaving in a patriarchal society. You say I am being emotional? Then you must be delusional.


I won't insult you because you already lack intellect and I don't blame you. There is nothing I would say that would change your "poverty riddled mindset" much less on issues like domestic violence. From the way you are foaming at the mouth I can see that you don't like being countered.


I would say one thing: women aren't perfect and if a woman decides to assault or get down with her husband then she lacks intellect or is variably stupid. But that doesn't mean that because an husband and wife have an argument, he has a right to beat her up. No one has a right to hit anyone just because they have an argument with you. Men need to know that is not right. You don't tell women to keep quiet in fear that they would get beat up.


You invariably assume every household is the same. You think that every woman and man are the same. Domestic violence is a real societal issue. You educate women on their rights as a Minster and don't give advice that push away the problem.


Again, no matter what I say it won't change your mindset.

bukatyne:
Why should she be tossed out of the position?

She is doing the best with the resources handed to her: a 'Nigerian' husband and his wife.

It is not her duty to train men for marriage or tell women to pick right or tell both parties to work towards creating a harmonious marriage.

She is only advising women to avoid becoming a stats in her office because like she said, if a woman is not ready to leave the marriage and gets beaten, it is the same apology she gets for keeping quiet she gets for injuries sometimes irreparable.

Even if the husband is punished, the injuries are irreparable. Or what sort of punishment would bring back a damaged eye or broken leg?

Really? That is the only advice she can give women. She can't advice women that no one should be assaulting them most especially their husbands. She can't educate women that if their husband beats them up for an argument they should consider leaving their marriages. Why should women be the ones to shut up and remain in silence for the fear that their husband would beat them up? That is making a mockery of women that have gone through domestic violence. A man that would beat his wife up during an argument would beat the wife up if he isn't satisfied with something else.


Instead of her to educate women that domestic violence shouldn't be tolerated and end this "dictator and servant" mindset. She is in all facts asking women who are dissatisfied to keep quiet so their husband won't beat them up! How is that a sane thing to say.


Educate women on their rights. Assault and battery are crinimal offences that if any person commits needs to be held accountable.


Women are human beings too. They have feelings. Not all women are perfect but that doesn't mean that they should be keep num when they find things unfavourable to them just becuase their husband would beat them up during an argument.


This Minister could have done better please!

It's the response from men for me. Nigeria still has a long way to go in educating the male child.

In a saner country; do you think you can beat your your wife for arguing with you? Men in this post are glorifying domestic violence. Do you think if some women shut up their husband won't beat them.


Go to homes for women that have been abused. You would know that domestic violence isn't a thing of just keeping your mouth shut. Some women if they breathe the wrong way, thier husband would beat them, if they sit they wrong way, they get beat up even infront of their kids. Some men even ask their kids to beat the mother.


How a whole Minister of women affairs can come hear and say such things and think keeping quiet would stop domestic violence is appalling.


You need to teach people no one has the right to hit anyone just because they have an argument with you. Would men beat uo their bosses or colleagues for the same argument? No they would not.


The response from men in this post just reeks of ignorance on domestic violence issues. It Just reeks of poverty riddled mentality and lack of exposure. I don't blame them, it is the society that makes them think it is right to beat up their wives and get away with it I blame.

Dpharisee:
What can you add to your opinion on taking her back to the village after reading his post above from 2022?

That is the same thing I mentioned. The behaviour the little girl is exhibiting is a cry for help. Imagine calling an 11 year old child a bastard.


If the Op sends her back to Nigeria, he is just playing to his wife's hands. How come she behaves when you are around, how come most of the issues she is having is with your wife? Doesn't that sound a little fishy at least.


There is a saying" once you have a step mum; you automatically have a step father". By sending your daughter back to Nigeria and neglecting her, your child might not be close to you again. From his previous post, it is obvious the wife has a problem with him having a child.

To everyone saying "send her back to Nigeria ", you need yto read his other posts. The situation with his daughter has everything to do with his new wife (her stepmum). From calling her a bastard to fighting against the Op for sending his daughter (9 or so then) to a more expensive school than her son who was in primary 2.


Unless you have no conscience and want to deceive yourself . You know why your daughter is acting out. Remove her from her stepmother and take her to therapy and you would be surprised at her change. (Don't send her back to Nigeria).


Everything you mentioned had neglect and a bit of abuse written all over it from your wife and you yourself. As someone said, sit her down and talk to her becuase from your other stories (2021) she wasn't like this. You and your wife made her this way.


Everything you wrote up there had your wife's manipulations written all over it. Do better for your daughter. She deserves a father the same way her siblings do. Influencing the other kids(as if). As if your wife would treat her own kids or call them bastard the same way she did to the little girl.



As for the rest commenting without looking at the issue deeply, that child is just looking for love and attention. Nothing else.

You read some responses from men here and it is so vile and you wonder, how do these people think?. Who raised these people?. Stop victim blaming.

You can't contend the violence women suffer on a daily basis. Be emphatic and stop blaming the victims who are dead.


You can't compare the statistics of women being killed by men (especially their partners) to the vice versa.

We can't open news stories and not read violence metted out against women on a daily. Men raping toddlers, men beating up women, men killing women for alleged rituals and so many more. Africa is already male dominated. Don't compound to it by violence against women. Don't blame the victims but readily think how we can stop this violence.


Because I promise you, even if that guy didn't kill his girlfriend, another girl would have taken her place. That is what we don't want. Why resort to such means to get money in the first place. Why kill another human being because of misguided greed that won't end well.


This is what Op is highlighting. And when you decide to victim blame, can you really say you have any iota of human feeling. You are justifying murder!. Stop it.


Men treat women better. Women know your self worth and stop following these men who don't care.

Emmanuel909090:
Who are you trying to explain all this to?
Me?

Get out with your smelly mouth and rotten pus sy.

Dwarf of a being.

Ranting like a mad dog.

I will say it again, this OP is a standard fool, and you are not left out.

Abandoned pillock

Who is ranting between the both of us. You have even been quoting the Op up and down and foaming at the mouth.

Another potential irresponsible father on the loose.


Imagine the toxic waste coming out of that thing you call a mouth and you think you aren't a fool.


Better go and hustle so you can take care of your own kids and not expect your other children should do the job for you.


This is the last time I will trade words with an ignorant uncouth thing such as yourself.

Emmanuel909090:
It's now so obvious that you inherited your level of stupidity from your parents.

You are blaming the man, because he is not financially capable enough, and you feel the government messing the whole system is doing enough.

Devil punish you scrupture, because you don't pass for a living thing as you are a certified dead beat bastard goat.

You foul and uncouth fellow. It seems you don't know how to reason past your sentimental riddled brain. And it seems you are taking personal objections to factual points.


The man is a parent and as a parent, you need to send your child to school. If you don't have the money to send your children to school, then why bother to have kids. Simple. When you know you are not financially capable and you have kids, who do you expect to take care of your child for you? The government is very terrible but
as a parent you alone has to take that responsibility of training your child to school.

Your logic is thwarted and if you think I am stupid, then your brain is non-existent.


Don't quote me again. Unless your brain has had a recharge.

Emmanuel909090:
It's obvious your damaged brain can't function without Google, I'm not praising his father or him either, but calling hi father irresponsible because of his financial muscles it's a no for me.

Anyways you can also Google if your father is useless.

Op, don't help your siblings if you can, let them suffer, it's the sole responsibility of your father as Google said, God punish you.

Listen Nigeria has no social system, no health insurance, and the minimum wage here is nothing, the unemployment rate is high, so if any man fails blame the Government and don't blame one innocent man, who must have been done his best to provide for his useless son, coming here to call him irresponsible.

Least I forget you are also useless.

Why are you foul- mouthed though. If you can't take care of the kids you gave birth to and you expect your other kids to pick up for you, then you are irresponsible. An innocent man won't give birth to a kid, he can't take care of. Op said he carried the burden of going to university. So, why can't he call his father irresponsible. Call a spade what it is and leave sentiments.

If you aren't financially capable, don't pop out kids then. You can't blame the government for everything. 'Done his best' and he can't find a way to hustle for 10k for his daughter's school fees. He didn't even send his son to school and you claim he is innocent and someone who is trying to help out how he can, when he doesn't have to for his younger sibling is 'useless'.

Do you have any sense of reasoning. Are you so dumbstruck in your delusions that you can't see that the man doesn't want to be responsible for his own kids.

See how you are ranting and forming at the mouth like you are the Op's dad. If you don't want a child to call his father irresponsible, then the dad should take up responsibility.


So just because he fathered someone, he gets a pass from his son calling "irresponsible". Continue playing.


My prayer for you is that you don't become a deadbeat and expect your kids to take care of their own siblings for you.


Audio Millionaire

Kobojunkie:
The one who has thus far pretended to know OP'S story better than him happens to be you.

Don't bother quoting him again. From the way he keeps ranting, you can tell he isn't thinking deeply, so no matter what you say. It won't have any effect on him.

Emmanuel909090:
So Google is now the standard of living, you are as stupid as the op.

If the man was late, I guess op will go to his grave and ask him for money, if your father has failed try not to fail, as far as I'm concerned the op is a useless sibling to have.

I don't want to trade words with someone who is ignorant. I said Google what irresponsibility means.

Are you appraising a deadbeat father that doesn't want to pay 10k for his own child fees. Nigerians need to understand that no one owes you anything apart from your parents, your siblings owe you nothing. They didn't give birth to you, so why should they be responsible for you, especially when your parents are alive and kicking. If they decide to help out, it is out of mutual familiar love.


I can foretell you are a sentimental fellow, but life isn't sentimental. Op doesn’t have to pay for his sister's fees and the fact that he is helping out while still struggling, shows that he is far from 'useless'. So for your own good, use your dot thinking head before you comment and start insulting people.

Emmanuel909090:
To me, you are very irresponsible to call your father an irresponsible man.

You are a grown man now, why are you not responsible enough to do all what your father failed to do, fool.

You are even doing POS

Let's leave sentiments. The man is irresponsible. Google that. You shouldn't give birth to kids, you can't take care of. That is irresponsiblity. The young man is struggling for himself and he has to take care of his siblings when the father is still alive.


Just fathering children alone, does not make you 'responsible' on that fact. Take care of the kids you give birth to, if you don't want your kids to call you "irresponsible". I assure you, no child wants to call their parent, that. But, it is what it is.


Op, give your sister the 15k and leave it at that. You have done your best. Let her parents do the rest.

Honestly, everyone needs to put themselves in the woman's shoes.

Imagine having to wait to another year t9 graduate because a man cannot stay with his kids for 5 days.

Imagine working your ass off and having to wait another year so you can actually graduate, and we are still early in 2023.

The husband and wife should find someone to stay to stay with the children. Her being stubborn has nothing to do with this, when someone is trying to better themselves academically, their partner should support them no matter what.

Imagine if the reverse was the case, many people on this forum will call the woman names.

FORWARDEVERLY:
Men has never been in the virginity situationship ..
If you like call me patriarchy or misogynist..infcat calling me such would make me happy and fufilled..

Back to the question.. both in traditions and biblical, It is never demanded for a man to be a Virgin whatsoever but .. it is demanded both in tradition and Bible for women to be so.. The Bible kept on hammering on women being virgins likewise the way our traduons hammers on it.. before some woke idiots and so called feminist started trying to water down the importance..

So.. women should be chaste and be virgins.. and men are freeborns.. that is the bitter truth...
If e vex you. Go and protest to Ned Nwoko that has numerous Nubile chaste women he married or go protest to Adamu the poor northerner living in a slum in Nasarawa with up to 4 young wives of which he married as a brand new no tested brides...

Cheers my dear feminist wannabe..

Do you really know the meaning of virginity. It means a person who hasn't had sex before. Don't use biblical and fictious traditional to sound logical because it doesn't.

A man can be a virgin if he hasn't had sex before. Just Google the word and stop sounding illogical.

Use actual concise facts. Not everyone is religious and don't use that to drive a point that you don't even understand

What I find funny is how people are comparing human beings to cars, phones and tyres. Please who thinks like this.

Virgintity or the lack thereof are all social construct. The emphasis on one over the other has no basis.

People are going to have sex whether it is deemed proper or not!
Get with the programme. Safe sex should be prompted instead of all this bullshit

Unless from the religious and socio-cultural standpoint, marriage and virginity do not correlate in any way.

Please, I believe we are better than this baseless talks about women virginity. Morality should not be based on lack of sex.

Maybe I think this way because I am not wholly religious. This conversation is childish and makes no sense. Sex, at the end of the day is just a physical act for pleasure.

To each their own

This discussion is just stupid.

An adult, not a child or a teenager wants to have her own. space. Op if this is your cousin decision, then it should be respected. Since she has a job, then what is the issue. I think the average Nigerian has such a downtrodden mentality, it is just wrong. Thinking a 22 years old woman can't move out if her parents house because it is not the norm. Even if she wants to have her intimate time, it is her business because she is an adult.

Why is it only the men that are commenting?. The general idea about sex in the NYSC camp should be explained more by women since they are the ones giving it. This shows most of these tales are either exaggerated or mere puff.

EdoFirstBorn:
Yes too hard because 99% are whôres
Materialistic, manipulative, pathological lairs

Most of them have lost what makes them women that's why when you are with them you quickly feel the need to exit that conversation or just have her leave.

They feel like men ... Yurk

They are a lost course.. that's why you have so many over aged unmarried women in Nigeria

I predict that in the coming years more and more of these over aged women will become nuns .

Show me where you got your statistics from. This sounds so violent but with words

Jogunomi1:
Before our first child, her belly was naturally not flat and she's not obese. After first child, her belly became bigger. I just want her belly to stop getting bigger.

What can I do please?

Wow!. Just wow. Instead of you to have this discussion with your wife, which might I add concerns HER body, you bring it on a public forum for suggestions!.

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paulolee:
after slaying n flexing thier twenties....de go kum de form serious dey find one innocent bros to tie borehole kpekus give...d worst part b say de would gladly say "don't worry abt my past bcoz i dnt like talking abt it n dnt wana go dier"....
boys don wise up n now going for those in thier early twenties wey get sense small n no too waka n dts if we even de reason marriage or so called serious relationship..

This opinion is totally wrong. You speak as if women above 30 are not individuals. What does " borehole kpekus" have to do with anything. This particular topic is about maturity . Please be kind with your words, improve on your spelling

paulolee:
after slaying n flexing thier twenties....de go kum de form serious dey find one innocent bros to tie borehole kpekus give...d worst part b say de would gladly say "don't worry abt my past bcoz i dnt like talking abt it n dnt wana go dier"....
boys don wise up n now going for those in thier early twenties wey get sense small n no too waka n dts if we even de reason marriage or so called serious relationship..

This opinion is totally wrong. You speak as if women above 30 are not individuals. What does " borehole kpekus" have to do with anything. This particular topic is about maturity . Please be kind with your words, improve on your spelling

paulolee:
after slaying n flexing thier twenties....de go kum de form serious dey find one innocent bros to tie borehole kpekus give...d worst part b say de would gladly say "don't worry abt my past bcoz i dnt like talking abt it n dnt wana go dier"....
boys don wise up n now going for those in thier early twenties wey get sense small n no too waka n dts if we even de reason marriage or so called serious relationship..

This opinion is totally wrong. You speak as if women above 30 are not individuals. What does " borehole kpekus" have to do with anything. This particular topic is about maturity . Please be kind with your words, improve on your spelling