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Lol. Guys let's not be cocky. Juventus is not Bilbao or Valencia.

yourangel:
Lionel Messi Beats Zidane to Be Named Champions League's Greatest Player Ever

Barcelona star Lionel Messi is the greatest player in Champions League history.

That is, at least according to a poll conducted by tournament sponsors MasterCard.

Messi (27 percent) received the most votes ahead of former Real Madrid man Zinedine Zidane (12 percent).

The Argentine has won the Champions League on three occasions and will aim for his fourth winner's medal when Barcelona take on Juventus in Saturday's final.

Cristiano Ronaldo (11 percent) finished third in the voting ahead of the Brazilian Ronaldo (7 percent) and David Beckham (4 percent).

As noted by the Latin American Herald Tribune: "Interestingly, those most inclined to choose Messi were not young people but respondents over 55 years old, as the Barcelona player won 33 percent of that category’s votes."

The Champions League began in 1992 as a rebrand of the old European Cup.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2487135-lionel-messi-beats-zidane-to-be-named-champions-leagues-greatest-ever-player?

my list would be: top 5 in the last 20 years - 1 Messi 2. Raul 3. Zidane 4. Cristiano 5. Ronaldinho

Krasid:
Despite Ronaldo's recent poor form in terms of free kicks, he still had the most free kicks score in the league this season(2).
Most direct free-kick goals in la liga(last 20 years):
Ronaldo-17
R.Carlos-16
Ronaldinho-15
Messi-12

Ronaldo 17 out of 200 attempts. Carlos 16 out of 101 attempts. Ronaldinho 15 out of 99 attempts. Messi 12 out of 132 attempts. Carlos was sharing with Zidane, Ronaldinho was sharing with Deco and eto, Messi shares with Xavi and neymar, Cristiano Ronaldo takes everything to himself.

dmcdad:
Ha ha ha ha ha ha. God go bless your mama jare. The guy dey make me laugh that's why I no bother quote am again.

Besides, Tito was the one that told Messi to be taking freekicks during Pep's last season. Come to think of it sef, that Tito (RIP), the guy was really the brain behind Pep ooooooo (that is not to take away anything from Pep). Many decisions Pep took were actually from Tito (like the false 9).

word! RIP Tito villanova.

Krasid:
Messi does not belong to that group.He is a good fk taker, nothing more.

I stand to be corrected Messi has a higher free kick conversion rate than Ronaldo. I stand to be corrected.

Krasid:
Messi is not a great fk taker.He scored the same amount of fk as Ronaldo this season despite Ronaldo having one of his worst seasons in terms of fk.Ronaldo also has the record for most liga fk's(in just 6 seasons) despite Messi being in la liga his whole career.Deal with it.

this guy nor wan get sense at all. We may have to call in the efcc and the paramedics to tie this guy up, open up his skull and implant a brain in there. He loves to talk about Ronaldo being in madrid for 6 years and Messi being in la liga his whole career. For goodness sake who doesn't know that free kicks were for Ronaldinho and then eto sometimes before Messi even became a first team player? Which football fan doesn't know this? How could someone possible talk about Messi and freekicks before 2009?how? I am worried for Krasid.

Krasid:
If Messi had showed up and won barca that game, the gap would have been reduced to one point and with a few games left anything could have happened.Prior to that game Madrid faced Atletico with a lot of Barca fans expecting us to lose at the Calderon and reduce the gap to a single point and then they would finish the job at the camp nou.Ronaldo scored a hat trick in that game to lead Madrid to a 4-1 win.He was incredible that season.

we are talking about a season of over 60 games in all competitions and you are singling out 3 or 4 incidents for me. I have already given you the summary of Messi and Ronald's 11/12 season. Their main accolades were :Ronaldo - la liga. Messi - Copa del Rey, pichichi with record 50 goals, European golden shoe with record 50 goals, record 28 assists, record 73 goals in all competitions and I even forgot champions League top scorer with 14 goals, I also forgot only player to score 5 goals in one champions League match. These were their season in summary. And you're telling me Ronaldo was the best player in spain? Because he won la liga? Guy u need help.

Krasid:
Look at it this way.You have 10 million now, but i am reminding you that there was a time you had 1 million and was contented with being a millionaire until I came up and made 5 million and you were motivated to make 10.Not so hard to understand, is it? Why would I be bragging about his 40 goals now when he has scored 46 and 48 since then.All i am saying is that B4 he broke that tally, 40 goals had never been achieved in the history of la liga.

OK then, why not brag about 48 goals, and let me brag about 50 goals and let's see who's the 1diot here. Lol. Look at it this way: Ronaldo scores 40 and Messi is like let me show this dude that I am good enough to score 50, and he does. And then Ronaldo can't match 50. Even in his next life. There's no Magic you can do here Mr Krasid. You know why? No matter the language, the twisting, the innuendo, 50 will always be greater than 40 or even 48. You have to learn to live with with this fact.

Krasid:
Look at it this way.You have 10 million now, but i am reminding you that there was a time you had 1 million and was contented with being a millionaire until I came up and made 5 million and you were motivated to make 10.Not so hard to understand, is it?

Good. Your 5 million motivated me to get 10 million and I did. My 10 million motivated you to get above me again but you failed woefully. When it's all said and done you have 5 and I have 10 million and I am the richest man in the world because no one else has 10 million. N1gga, I am still bigger than you, no contest.

Krasid:
And how did Madrid record a 4 point gap before we met barca?

like Goodluck Jonathan said, I don't give a damn! You were very particular about the goal at the camp nou and I responded appropriately. You kept yapping that that goal won the league for madrid. How could it? When they were already 4 points clear before that goal? Say something else but stop hyping that goal Like mourino and others did.

Krasid:
You did so by saying i have no shame talking about 40 goals.Somebody must take a step, before another can think of running a yard.The 30 goal mark must be breached b4 someone can think of reaching the 40 goal mark, likewise 40 and 50.Messi would have been content with his 30+ if Ronaldo did not breach the 40 goal mark.

it's just like me bragging about my 10 million naira, and you come to my house bragging about your 5 million naira. I am not saying you can't brag about your 5 million. Please do, because it's also a lot of money but just don't come bragging at my house. 40 goals is a lot, please brag about it but just don't use it in the same sentence with Messi' 50. It shows you have no shame. But maybe you don't care because Nairaland is a faceless forum. People say all sorts of thrash because others don't see their faces.

Krasid:
I am using both seasons(10/11 and 11/12) to show how biased and contradictory you are in your analysis.What exactly is used to determine the best player? 'common sense', 'sincerity', 'discretion'.
Of what use is scoring 73 goals a season when it only wins your team the CDR.Ronaldo was hands down the best player in 2011/2012 season.We were just 4 points ahead of Barcelona when we met at the camp nou and Ronaldo decided that game.

thank God you just said it, you were already 4 points ahead of barca. And you keep yapping that Ronaldo' goal at the camp nou won la liga. Outright hypocrisy! And lie! What is so hard for you to understand? Winning la liga does not make you the best player automatically. Winning the pichichi does not make you the best player automatically. Even a 10 year old should understand this! It's an all round performance thing. Haba! Are you an abok1? In 2011\12,Ronaldo won la liga and what else? Don't tell me he scored a winning goal at the camp nou. That would be too dumb! Messi won Copa del Rey, won the pichichi with world record 50 goals, won the European golden shoe with a world record 50 goals, made a record 28 assists, scored a record 73 goals. Hey I will not repeat myself. Keep drawing in your ignorance. In the past 7 years Messi has won 5 times best player in spain and this is his 6th one. It's no fluke.

Krasid:
It's good to see that some barca fans can be honest.

look at him. What he means is that Messi is most lethal with free kicks from the right side of the pitch, not that Messi does not belong to that group. Don't get ahead of yourself.

Krasid:
B4 the 2011/2012 season when Messi scored 50, 40 goals was a great tally as no other player had ever recorded such(Not even the liga born and bred Messi).Do not try to belittle that in any way.

I'm not belittling it, 40 goals a great feat, 50 goals an extraordinary feat. They should never be in the same sentence.

Krasid:
Who previously held the record for most goals in a la liga season before it was broken by Messi? Ronaldo(2010/2011)

When did Messi break the record? 2011/2012
You do not need to be a genius to know that Messi broke a year old record.Meanwhile, Ronaldo broke a 38 year old record the previous season.Both were close in the goal race in 2011/12 season until Madrid won the league and Messi started scoring meaningless hat-tricks.

No wonder people say mean things about you. I am talking 50 goals, and you're talking 40 goals. Have you no shame or conscience?

Krasid:
They created history?
From what I can remember, Real madrid was the team who created history racking up a staggering 100 points in la liga.We finished above Barcelona with about 7 points that year, beating them in front of their fans with Ronaldo getting the winning goal.With the league gone, Messi started scoring hat tricks that did not benefit the team in any way.

incase you pretend not to understand, 50 goals 'was' history. Getit now? It seems anything madrid or Ronaldo does, Messi and barca does it better. Barca then went on to score 100 points and establish the highest gap between the first and second in la liga history-13 points. Madrid finished with 87. Lol. Just the same way Ronaldo went and scored against all league opponents. He must have regretted that, because the boy Messi got mad and scored against all league opponents as well, but he decided to do it CONSECUTIVELY.

Krasid:
Mind you, Ronaldo scored 40 league goals the previous season 'creating history' by beating a 38 year old record held by H.Sanchez and T.Zarra.He scored about 7 goals more than Messi that season, being the first player to hit the 40 goal mark ever in la liga.Guess who won the best player that year? Yes, Messi.I wouldn't be surprised if Messi should win the best player this year and would be stupid to bet against that.The problem with the Spanish league is that despite its quality, organization is poor.The lfp should state the criterion needed to name the best player.

you ve got a lot to learn Boi. It's not black, it's not white. There are a lot of grey areas. I am talking about 50 goals a season, and you are still bring talks about 40 goals. 40 goals! Under whatever circumstances, you have no shame talking about 40 goals when I am talking 50! Best player in la liga is not determined exclusively by who was top scorer or who won the league. you have to use your common sense, your discretion, and your sincerity to determine the best player of any season. In that season Ronaldo scored 40 goals, Messi won la liga, Copa del Rey, champions League, and destroyed madrid in several El classico including the 5-0 drubbing. Anyone who thinks Ronaldo ahead of Messi that season is deluded.

Krasid:
What does winning the spanish cup and scoring over 70 in all competitions that season have to do with la liga best player? Messi only broke a year old record previously held by Ronaldo who scored 40 in 2010/11.

If you don't know let me school you. Best player in la liga is not limited to just la liga. It's enveloped around the entire season: the Copa del Rey and the Champions League. So it's called best player IN la liga not best player OF LA liga. note the IN not OFF! More like best player in spain. Also Messi did not break a year record, he broke la liga scoring record. 50 goals, not Ronaldo, not any player who ever played in la liga ever managed that. Then the European golden shoe as well, no European footballer ever managed that.

Krasid:
Messi won it in the 2011/2012 Season after scoring 50 useless goals ahead of Ronaldo who scored 46 that led Madrid to the title including the winner at camp nou.I expect Ronaldo to win it this time around.

Messi s 50 goals were not useless because even though they didn't win la liga, they created history. But what you really can call USELESS are ronaldo s 48 goals; no league title, no history! Nothing could be more useless. You expect Ronaldo to win la liga player of the season? Pls let's collaborate with the moderators and bet 100,000 each.

Krasid:
Messi won it in the 2011/2012 Season after scoring 50 useless goals ahead of Ronaldo who scored 46 that led Madrid to the title including the winner at camp nou.I expect Ronaldo to win it this time around.

I just knew you 'd come up with that 2011/12 season. Messi wasn't only top scorer, he made history with those 50 goals. No man born of a woman ever scored 50 goals in an European season. Ronaldo s 48 goals don't create any history. Also Messi won the Copa del Rey, and recorded the highest number of assists that season. So it's never been a law that the one who wins la liga must be the best player in la liga. But Messi won it in 2011/12 for 4 major reasons : 1 . creating history with 50 league goals. 2. Making another history with 73 goals in all competitions. 3 . making yet another history with 28 assists in the season. 4 . winning the Spanish kings cup. So how the heck do you you even try to compare Ronaldo 2014/15 with Messi 2011/12? Abeg no try am!

Krasid:
If he wins it, then it would be well deserved.

well deserved? Ahead of Messi? Lol. Well, just forget it. This season 2014/15, Messi wins la liga player of the season. No contest. Like I said before, that dubious award they called 'MOST VALUABLE PLAYER IN LA LIGA' which was used to compensate him that year, might just be introduced again. Then after this year they stop it again.

Krasid:
Meanwhile, Ronaldo has been named La liga player of the month for May 2015.Marcelo and Ronaldo made the best XI for May.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's named la liga player of the year. Or maybe they will bring back that 'most valuable player award' again.

shammah1:
You're wrong. He's protected God first, then the law, then the good people of Ekiti state

God cannot protect someone who uses 5 out of 24 to impeach the speaker. Stop blaspheming. He will meet his water loo sooner.

shammah1:
Why you dey vex? don't explode o because e dey pain u die

Bros I nor vex. I only hate liars. Acting like fayose is omnipotent and omnipresent. When infact he was only protected by the might of the federal government.

Flets:
I truly would not blame temitemi..... Fayose is the real deal.

How he manages to thrive through controversy while maintaining the support of his people still beats me.
All the efforts from Bourdillion house to evict him failed woefully...... the enemies of Ekiti people have been shamed.

This should be a lesson to Nigerians masses. Its time to turn deaf ears to propaganda and fight for that which represents your interest. Neither APC nor PDP represents your interest................ and when you find that which protects your interest, strive to protect it and dont let the enemies snatch it from you.

For example: In the fight on fuel import and subsidy, the masses have been hoodwinked with the help of propaganda that FG was responsible while forgetting the real enemy who are the oil marketers. FG have been incessantly arm-twisted into paying false subsidy bills because Nigerians cry when the oil marketers go on strike. Imagine if Nigerians turned their anger on the marketers, protested around their depots and tank farms...... Imagine if one marketer was used as an example on the angst of the Nigerian people. If Nigerians understood the real enemy, fuel scarcity as we know it today would have been history.

Anyway... Kudos to Fayose and Ekiti people. Its now time for governance after the long distraction from the enemies of Ekiti people in APC.

rubbish. He was only protected by Jonathan's police and army. If he did all that in the present regime, he wouldn't last 3 months, even if 2 ekiti States put together love him. Rubbish.

I knew it, I knew it, I knew it. Chellini was nursing an injury all the while and he knew he wasn't gonna make the final. That was why he had the balls to talk sh1t about leo.

Buy these ekiti lawmakers are dulling o. What are they waiting for na? They have 2 days left. Impeach the bastard na! Nigeria is not a zoo. Even if the whole state loves you, if you violate the Constitution you must be impeached.

This is dangerous. What if the pdp governors bribe 6 anonymous apc senators with 100 million each, along with their 49 block votes? Could they reject 100 million each? Apc is living dangerously I tell you.

Chellini just f*cked himself.

onuwaje:
Where is krasid?

Messi killed his career as a troll. Krasid is deeply hurt. He started off like he didn't give a f, making comment after comment. Then gradually he faded off.

sss2015:
He is just a bloody driver in the presidency

he's got more money and fame than you could muster in 500 lifetimes. Did I Say 500? Infact 5 million lifetimes.

Lol. Losers fighting with his portrait while he's in Abuja chilling with the president. Nna if person pass you him pass you. Nothing you could do about it.