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[quote author=Manny_01 link=topic=885295.msg10345670#msg10345670 date=1331081841]Are you trying to say the above sentence is correct?? You are fool!! and the worst kind for that matter because you think you are wise. Your Ibo states have only 8.3% of Nigeria's oil, are about 25,000 sqkm and there more than 49 million ethnic Igbo's(Not counting the ones in diaspora). How will you take care of them?? I really can't blame you. You are probably one of those fools who live in Lagos and keep screaming for Biafra.[/quote]It is evidenced (indicated) nothing would gladden the heart of Igbo person (would make Igbo person’s heart happy) more than see the disintegration of Nigeria. There is a flair in writing styles and it is very individualistic, olodo.

Did I not urge you to use Google?

[quote author=c.fours link=topic=885295.msg10345651#msg10345651 date=1331081210]Imagine, Ojukwu couldn't even carry up to 3 states in his region when he attempted to return to politics on the local/state level.  His own people would not support him!! The only power he ever had lied in brutal force and force alone. who wants that?

of course he's dead now and we can all celebrate him as a hero  [/quote]What has Ojukwu’s inability to garner electoral victory in a skewed Nigerian election got do with Niger Delta or Biafra or Republic of Igbo land? Nnewi people closed markets because of the burial of Ojukwu and would even go to war if Ojukwu commanded them to do so yet Ojukwu was defeated in Nnewi Senatorial election for the seat of a senator.

Call for arms to defend oneself, honor of family and defeat a real aggressor is different from call to cast vote.

[quote author=c.fours link=topic=885295.msg10345625#msg10345625 date=1331080539]if we do a simple referendum today in iboland, I will wager that less than 30% will support biafra.
in the non-ibo speaking SS regions, less than 3% will agree to go with biafra.

all the noisemakers on this forum are just that. noisemakers.
you can never force people into biafra. That's a main reason why Ojukwu failed in his attempt. he thought of himself as Lord over the SE as if the people have no brain of their own to decide what they want.
tens of million silent majority paid for the crime of the loud mouthed minority as always.

I fear the whole dark episode may repeat itself again if we refuse to learn from our past mistakes. and this time, it will be 100x worse.[/quote]You have written like a person who was present at the eastern regional government house at Eungu when Ojukwu made the declaration. Who else was present?

For posterity sake, I still do not know why ingrates have irregular heartbeats on the mention of Biafra. For umpteenth time, if Nigeria should disintegrate today, there must be a Republic of Igbo land which shall be non-negotiable.

[quote author=Manny_01 link=topic=885295.msg10345601#msg10345601 date=1331080012]Someone wasn't paying attention in English class,[/quote]I would have written someone did not pay attention in his or her (someone’s) English language class.

[quote author=Manny_01 link=topic=885295.msg10345159#msg10345159 date=1331072855]@dede1  First off, "evident" and "this post" not "evidence" and "the post" please, biko. Also, this is the 21st Century, NOBODY uses words like "gladden","dimwits"or"effrontery" instead try words like "" or "nerve".

Also, I wasn't TALKING to you, but thanks a lot for letting me know how greedy you are.

PS: Another word of advice: Do not use a dictionary while reply to other peoples posts, it just makes you look more s.t.u.p.i.d.[/quote][quote author=Manny_01 link=topic=885295.msg10345201#msg10345201 date=1331073462]@dede1 Not trying to offend, I just wanna know. Please when were you given birth to??How far back is it?? Is it the 50's or 40's??[/quote]Anybody who is not in the know and wants to know a certain fact should not accuse people of being greedy within the context of the subject in discuss. Since you have alluded that greed seems to shadow peoples’ intelligence, may I ask where you drew this inference and for what?

I really do not care what the hell you want to know but you are one lazy dingbat seeking attention on the Internet of all places. There is something called Google and I urge you to use it. It is very funny to watch how you suddenly developed from a ninny to a wordsmith. 

As for display of stupidity on your part with the words such as evident, evidence and evidenced, I recalled using “evidenced” as a verb in my post. I do know evident is adjectival form while evidence is a noun.

I guess it amounts to waste of bandwidth responding to your useless posts. Again, as far as Igbo land is concerned, the so-called Niger Delta is a waste swampy land full of mangroves.

[quote author=Manny_01 link=topic=885295.msg10344914#msg10344914 date=1331070311]Example of a silly answer from dede1:

"I suggest you get more education on the subject matter than you have depicted with this thread. Let me give a clue and you can run with it. Niger Delta is absolutely nothing consequential in Biafra or Igbo polity. I shall appreciate if you can understand the anticipated disintegration of Nigeria shall be grandfathered by ethnicity, thus, culture and tradition. Niger Delta does not fit into the covered scheme.

I certainly believed there shall be Republic of Igbo land and any other thing shall be based on civil negotiations or marshal means. I guess by now you should have elementary understanding of how your inconsequential Niger Delta has headed through the political window. By the way, Igbo land is part and parcel of the so-called Niger Delta."

Now check this:

1.)I suggest you get more education on the subject matter than you have depicted with this thread.
2.)Niger Delta is absolutely nothing consequential in Biafra or Igbo polity.
3.)By the way, Igbo land is part and parcel of the so-called Niger Delta.
4.)I guess by now you should have elementary understanding of how your inconsequential Niger Delta has headed through the political window.

He spent his time writing 4/5 syllable words instead of giving me a simple answer and ended up contradicting himself in lines 2 and 3, and as for line 1, @dede1 tell me If I knew the answer, would I have asked anybody??Also the phrase "head through the window" wasn't used properly.

I don't know if he writes normally like that or is just trying to show off but even then @dede1 can you explain to me how the Niger- Delta area which accounts for 85% of Nigeria's Economy is "inconsequential"??[/quote]You are an intellectual midget. No wonder you seemed to wobble aimlessly trying to have a handle on this thread. The Igbo land being part of the so-called Niger Delta is both academically and politically true in the context of Nigerian polity. It is a funny way to educate you on the erroneous use of Niger Delta in this debate which you should be indicted as a commission of crime.

I guess your comment on the Niger Delta being consequential or lack thereof with your silly reference to its 85% representation of Nigeria’s economy spoke volumes about your state of the mind. There is no doubt you have abject deficiency in comprehension.

I do not give a rat arse if Niger Delta accounts for 100% of Nigeria’s economy. I wrote and will reiterate that Niger Delta is absolutely nothing consequential in Biafra or Igbo land polity. It could be heaven in Nigeria's context but in Biafra or Igbo land it is a waste swampy land full of mangrove.

[quote author=Manny_01 link=topic=885295.msg10344722#msg10344722 date=1331068940]It's amazing how a persons greed can show their true intelligence, [/quote]You are a very idiotic son of a bitc.h. What greed were you refereeing in silly post? As I write this post, Igbo land had enough crude oil to turn it into paradise if Nigeria should disintegrate today. There is absolutely nothing Republic of Igbo land should crave from Edo, Itsekiri, Urhobo, Ijo, Efik, Ejegam, Ekoi, Ibibio, Annag or Ogoni land.

It is evidenced that nothing would gladden the heart of Igbo person more than see the disintegration of Nigera. It is very ironic that moronic dimwits such as you who would defecate in their pants the moment they heard Nigeria is about to split had effrontery to label Ndigbo as greedy. 

I guess you meant shadow because greed can not show true intelligence.

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As much as I appreciate the reiteration that oil was the reason the civil war was foisted on Biafra, I do not tend to sympathize with those who thought by joining hands against their age long neighbors was sure way to corral the crude oil revenue.

In addition, the author needs to brush up in his or her knowledge of certain historical facts about Nigeria.

Olaolufred:
I ealier said that these assertions are more like day-dreaming or a wish at its simplest form.
If Odua will be wise to lobby Edo and Delta, It is a good step. But don't you also think The Edos and Deltans has right to decide where they went and who they associate with?
I think this is a major mistake Ojukwu made then. He has a good vision, but plans towards execution of the vision was poor and presumptious. That is why the Calabars,Rivers, Edo and Deltans were not carried along. So they supported Nigerian Goverment like the Yoruba did. Before such major moves, homework are supposed to be done. Biafra failed because they were Isolated from other southern Nigeria.
It is hard to now conclude that the man who you never consulted before making your decision will now become a support for no reason.
In life, No man is a self-made anything. We need God and others to become whatsoever we are today.
The hope of Biafra can only be achieved If political and diplomatic groundworks are done. not this self isolation approach.

It seemed you ate too much amala before navigating to this forum. Remove Britain, USSR, Egypt, Chad, Niger, Cameroon and Australia yet despite numerical advantage Nigeria enjoyed, Biafra had Nigeria in a serious strangle hold. It is pure unfounded fallacy for person with human intelligence to insinuate that minorities in eastern region were not carried along in Biafra’s cause.

I detected you were intellectually on a shaky ground when you included Edo and the so-called Deltans in your silly drivel about who was or not be consulted. There will be many nation states that may come out of rubbished Nigeria and it baffles me the concerns Biafra still attracts from Nigerian commentators. I guess the evils people committed against Biafra seemed to haunt the detractors especially when they look at the horizon and see Biafra could become a reality.

For umpteenth time, Ojukwu did not commit any blunder for declaration of Biafra given the hand that was played to him at the period in discuss. However, he committed a tactical blunder during the shooting war.

I am not simplistic toward what will become the roles of nations after the demise of cesspit called Nigeria. The aftermath of Nigeria’s disintegration shall be definitely fractious in nature and most of the treats shall come from Islamic nation/s out of northern region of Nigeria. However the solution to this treat lies with Republic of Middle Belt and Republic of Igbo land or Biafra and behavior of Oodua Republic which I do not trust for a moment.

T8ksy:
it was the ibos through Ironsi who foisted ONE NIGERIA on us without asking

anyone and those who engaged in the "war of attrition" as you tagged it, did so, not to maintain ONE

NIGERIA but rather to deny ibos their much-awaited rationale to occupy their homeland.

I really do not know the book you read which convinced you to believe in Ironsi and One-Nigeria. If I may deduce from your stream of thought, I had believed Nigeria was not one entity on January 1, 1966. During Tafawa Balewa regime, the central government wielded enormous power and control.

USA looks at the vest empty lands in northern region of Nigeria and thinks through contracts to USA companies would turn deserts in Nigeria into Las Vergas. If there should be sudden disintegration of Nigeria, it will be last country I would want to set feet in Igbo land. I had rather go with China or even Russia as close ally than USA. Probably, the southern Nigerian should start killing non-indigenes and burning Masques so that this moronic ninny should realize there is uncontrollable poverty in southern Nigeria too.

Anybody who knew the history of Nigeria and still come out to spew this crap on official capacity is not friend to Nigeria talk less of southern Nigeria. I can not wait any longer to see the disintegration of Nigeria so that each emerging nation state could take care of poverty within its pace.

Northern region of Nigeria shall not be allowed to remain as a country. If my projected plan of three countries out of northern region of Nigeria becomes reality, the Republic of Sokoto Islamic Caliphate and Republic of Borno Islamic Caliphate shall be very aggressive in territorial expansionism.

The responsibilities to checkmate any move by the Islamic Caliphate countries shall initially rest on the shoulders of countries such as Republic of Middle Belt and Republic of Igbo land or Republic of Biafra. If the countries such as MB and Igbo land or Biafra do not show raw military aggressiveness toward the two northern Islamic countries, Republic of Oodua shall definitely lose Kwara State to Republic of Sokoto Islamic Caliphate.


Definitely, Oodua Republic will not have entire Kogi State. Oodua would not mind losing Kwara State due to long throated interest vested on crude oil. It will set its bulging eyes on the southeastern part while seriously negotiating with part of Edo and Delta States to be included in Oodua and then turn around to tell Sokoto Islamic country it should not be allowed to import or export through Lagos seaports if it annexes Kwara State.

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Arrant nonsense from overfed fo.ols from USA who knew nothing about what they spew. Have they asked who developed the south? Northern elites have led Nigeria for years and channeled everything worthy of economic development to northern region yet they were interested in propagating Almajiri schools in every nooks and crannies of northern region.

This idiotic USA under Secretary for Political Affairs Wendy Sherman should realize there is no iota of presence of federal government of Nigeria in Igbo land. Anything worthy of comment in Igbo land is due to individual entrepreneurship. Problem of certain part of northern region is living with archaic Islamic doctrines.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=885295.msg10323055#msg10323055 date=1330799945]If Ibos invented biafra and ijaws invented niger delta,can ibos be ijaws ? Deal with this simple logic old man.[/quote]The post above is one of the reasons I picked bones with Awolowo in his introduction of UPE in western region of Nigeria. Not everybody is destined to spend a day within four walls of school. I am certain blacktooth is destined to push wheelbarrow in Alaba Market unfortunately he or she pushes pen and keyboards. 

Ijo did not invent Niger Delta as Igbo did not invent Biafra, olodo. You will never see old age.

Isaac Adaka Boro was a non starter as far as Niger Delta crap is concern. Even before Isaac Boro graduated from High School, there was political party named NDC (Niger Delta Congress) which won one seat in federal election under leadership of Melford Okilo.

Actually and intellectually Niger Delta does not exist. However due to nomenclatural tendency, there is Niger Delta. The Delta which is referenced as Niger Delta was formed by Rivers Niger, Benue, Imo, Utamiri, Urashi and Qua. Due to the fact Nigeria got its name from combine words of Niger and area, hence Niger Delta. It is funny that areas that have absolutely nothing to with River Niger, Benue, Imo, Utamiri, Urashi or Qua are politically labeled Niger Delta. No wonder anything seems to work in the jungle called Nigeria. Ordinary directional reference can not be correct due idiotic politics born out of tribal ding.

Anybody who has a third grade geography lessons should know the so-called south-south Niger Delta crap is not only a display of acute ignorance but mockery of cardinal directions. It is only in the knowledgeable level of Nigerians that Edo, Ondo and even Cross River States are more southerly than Abia or Imo State.

I repeat Niger Delta crap has inconsequential place in what will follow the disintegration of Nigeria. Republic of Igbo land will be a certainty baring none.

rawmeat:
@dede1, both men are a part of our history so it is not a bad idea to find out which of them is more popular among Nigerians. We need to ask ourselves the sacrifice made by each of them, the ripple effect of what each did, etc

There is no common ground to instigate any form of comparison between Ojukwu and Abiola except they somehow shared nationality.

[quote author=Manny_01 link=topic=885295.msg10321493#msg10321493 date=1330784194]Hello everyone, I have a question for fans and supporters of MASSOB and Biafra. Would you still support if you heard you will not have the Niger-Delta region?? After all they are very different from you culturally, and some people there believe if they join, they will become an oppressed minority.
What do you think?? Please reply. Once again, no silly comments please.

Thank you.[/quote]I suggest you get more education on the subject matter than you have depicted with this thread. Let me give a clue and you can run with it. Niger Delta is absolutely nothing consequential in Biafra or Igbo polity. I shall appreciate if you can understand the anticipated disintegration of Nigeria shall be grandfathered by ethnicity, thus, culture and tradition. Niger Delta does not fit into the covered scheme.

I certainly believed there shall be Republic of Igbo land and any other thing shall be based on civil negotiations or marshal means. I guess by now you should have elementary understanding of how your inconsequential Niger Delta has headed through the political window. By the way, Igbo land is part and parcel of the so-called Niger Delta.

@ musiwa,,.

For once, you have stumbled into a bitter truth. The recent nomenclatural nonsense of South-south and Niger Delta was invented to keep misguided One-Nigeria as one nation because of biafra.

@kunlekunle

Niger Delta was a reference adopted by the colonists through Royal Niger Company and made popular by missionaries who used it as a Dioceses with its headquarter in Onitcha.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=885107.msg10322005#msg10322005 date=1330788750]Abiola is influential among Nigerians even ibos were persuaded to vote for him while oju-iku is just an ibo thing hated by every other nigerian ethnic groups.why compare a coward with a man that won the best elections in nigeria ? Nonsense[/quote]I do not think you deserved even an innocuous tongue lashing. So enjoy the fo.ol’s delight.

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Whosoever committed this affront on the personality of Ojukwu by comparing an ant=MKO Abiola to Elephant= Dim E O Ojukwu shall never go unpunished. Even MKO Abiola’s father was nobody.

[quote author=Dudu_Negro]In violation of the constitution of the First Republic promulgated October 1st 1963, Orizu (Igbo man), Senate President, installed Ironsi in power.  Ironsi immediately issued decree 34 and suspended the constitution.   As an emphasis, he also committed to nationalism. In other words, Zik's vision of Ndigbo dominating and monopolizing power in Nigeria continues and will be implemented with boots and guns if necessary. The Hausas were now more than ever adamant on getting out of Nigeria. To placate and stall their demands. . . . he promoted Igbo and Hausas military personnell only but not Yorubas. He left the military criss-crossed postings in place and rapidly elevated Igbo civil servants and began relocating them to North. The aim being to begin the plan of direct rule of Hausaland. . . take Sharia courts and native authority out and install and effect civil and statutory laws and central governance accountable only to the Head of State. . . . or as they called him SUPREME COMMANDER! Doesn't that title alone say it all?[/quote]One of the most laughable conjectures I have come across on this forum is the bolded part of above crap. I have taken some less credible writers such as Sanusi Lamido to task about this unfortunate falsehood and enjoyed a laughter as I watch them struggle to locate the section of 1963 constitution of federal republic of Nigeria Orizu contravened. I guess UPE introduced in western region of Nigeria by Obafemi Awolowo is not something to write home at all.

[quote author=Dudu_Negro link=topic=882413.msg10315287#msg10315287 date=1330702124]Abagworo,

I said the state of things when the war began!  I was not concerned about the debate of why the 12 states were formed.  But since you brought up the reason behind this creations then I will gladly entertain your inquiry.

The first constitution we had was the Independence Constitution of 1960, which went into effect on October 1st 1960.  This was superseded by the constitution of October 1st 1963 promulgated by Azikiwe as the First Republic Constitution.  This was when Zik carved Mid West out of West.  All the regions knew there was oil in the Niger Delta but the Hausas did not have full appreciation and value of the possibilities and were not privvy to the full assessment or extent of the oil resources and wealth in the offshore Delta area but the Yorubas and the Igbos knew and had this information.

There was a academic outfit from University of Ibadan that acted as a ad-hoc strategic policy team for Western Region. They write proposals formulated from research and analytical outputs to advance the policies and politics of the West.  So Awo knew about the oil reserves.  Akintola had some issues with this group because they were too loyal to Awo, instead of the government of the region.  West was very liberal in its politics but also very volatile in its demand for allegiance. . . . people get killed for falling out of favor with political ideologies and party principles.  From 1962/63, the West was ablaze with political wars and up until 1966.  Strong allegiances in different party factions and turfs weakened the erstwhile strong and unified political frontier.

Western region was also the only region in the entire country where education was free. (proposed in 1952 but started in January 1955).  Western house in Ibadan was the secretariat for the following provinces included in the region - Abeokuta, Bini, Lagos (minus Federal Capital), Delta, Ibadan, Ijebu, Ondo and Oyo.  These were the Western provinces.  Whatever obtains in Ibadan is uniformly deployed and implemented in all the provinces.  Every person born and of school age in any of these provinces, if they attended school between January 1955 and Jan 1966 (coup), did so on the platform of Western region's socio-political programme.  There were other programmes in tandem with the free education programme; free health being one of them.  East did not have this and North did not. 

Awo wanted confederacy, Zik wanted nationalism.   Awo wanted each region to rule and determine its own future, Zik wanted all the regions to be ruled and directed from a unified center.  Zik, in collaboration with Eastern elements, devised a means by which the growth in the West could be stunted.  Awo had to be eliminated! Killing Awo will set the country on fire.  So he was set up, along with others. . . . including Anthony Enahoro.  They were tried in front of Justice Sowemimo, a Yoruba, and convicted and sentenced to imprisonment. This was on September 11, 1963.  19 days later my friend, Zik changed the constitution and carved Mid West out of Western region.  lol!  Following that rapid action the West protested, but in the wake of its turbulent political wars and chaos, its handicapped voice had no effect. 

Akintola was very savvy in his understanding of local politics, he lacked backing of the UnIbadan academic corps that had supported Awo as Premier.  He therefore was not informed in the broad policies with which to manipulate national politics successfully.  Awo and Akintola had different styles of governing; Awo was tactful, Akintola was tenacious.  If Awo did not succeed in one approach, he employs a different approach for the same goal until he gets what he wants.  Akintola did not believe in changing tactics. . . .if there are barriers in his way, he believes in knocking them over to get through to his goal.  His energy and focus were greatly consumed by events on the ground in West and therefore distracted from the rapidly changing events at national level. 

With Awo in prison, that left Zik with Ahmadu Bello as contender for National politics and power,  Okpara, the premier of Eastern region, was in status quo mode and in concordance with Zik's ambition and leadership.  The West is successfully broken and isolated from oil welath, the North had no oil and so the East remained the only region with oil wealth.  Therefore, if Igbo can retain nationalism at all cost and did not loose any of the other regions, then it will sit on an empire of massive wealth from groundnut and cotton in North, cocoa, palm oil and rubber in West, cocoa, palm oil, rubber and oil in MidWest, coal, palm oil, rubber and oil in East.  All these will be in the hand and domination of Ndigbo.  This plot is what fed Zik's insistence for nationalism.  To implement it successfully, he criss-crossed Army personnell from their home states into different tribal lands.  The ethnic balance in civil service was rapidly been manipulated as well the Army officer corp.  Ahmadu Bello grew dissatisfied with the arrangements and changes and his loss of regional power to a central government.  Economies and regional authority of the natives was invaded and subordinated to the market forces and statutory administration of government headed by Ndigbo.  This dissatisfaction is vented in a public interview that is now widely distributed online.  Ahmadu Bello then began a series of move to seceed the Northern people out of Nigeria. In West, Akintola had locked down with his opponents and defiant elements of AG. . . . the turmoil boiled over and had the appearance of triggering restlessness in other areas, particularly Niger Delta Volunteer Force led by Isaac Boro.  Boro was leading a grassroot movement that defied and despised the Eastern region's monopoly and abuse of power against minorities in the Delta area,  An urgent solution was needed to bring Boro, Bello and Akintola under check before "nationalism", Zik's darling baby was prematurely killed.  This was what led to the Igbo coup of Jan66.

Ndigbo must be the king of Nigeria and to do that successfully, the top echelon of other ethnicities in military and civil power must be disabled and all oppositions to this schemed domination demolished and removed.   Zik knew about the coup, Okpara knew about the coup and Ironsi knew about the coup.   I dont need to recap that story it has been talked about many times, so I will skip it.  So, what happened after the coup?

In violation of the constitution of the First Republic promulgated October 1st 1963, Orizu (Igbo man), Senate President, installed Ironsi in power.  Ironsi immediately issued decree 34 and suspended the constitution.   As an emphasis, he also committed to nationalism. In other words, Zik's vision of Ndigbo dominating and monopolizing power in Nigeria continues and will be implemented with boots and guns if necessary. The Hausas were now more than ever adamant on getting out of Nigeria. To placate and stall their demands. . . . he promoted Igbo and Hausas military personnell only but not Yorubas. He left the military criss-crossed postings in place and rapidly elevated Igbo civil servants and began relocating them to North. The aim being to begin the plan of direct rule of Hausaland. . . take Sharia courts and native authority out and install and effect civil and statutory laws and central governance accountable only to the Head of State. . . . or as they called him SUPREME COMMANDER! Doesn't that title alone say it all?

After Coup of July66, pushed out of power and the reins of control for "nationalism" in the hand of a Northerner, Ndigbo suddenly realized that nationalism is not a good plan for the country and sought confederacy. This is one of reasons for Aburi. Gowon implemented Aburi in the best way he could fit it into a national agenda. . , Ojukwu then raged that the agreements of the accord was violated and he will take his people out of Nigeria before he would submit to a national power in which the regions had no control of their own destiny and management. Gowon declared a decree and state of emergency in East and created 12 states, breaking Easten region and isolating Igbo land, thereby freeing Isaac Boro land and Ibibioland. Igbo lost its access to the oil wealth. This is exact same policy employed by Ndigbo to eliminate and isolate West. The Northerner followed that precedence and Ojukwu, dissatisfied declared secession. When Biafran army started out. . . .the first places they went and planted their Biafra flag was oil producing states. . . . South Eastern state, Rivers State and Bendel state. The Biafran war strategy was aimed at capturing and subordinating the entire country. . . .starting from oil lands, then West and then up North. What it could not accomplish politically, it sought, with boots, guns and bullets, to execute militarily. Both approaches failed. The nationalism that Ndigbo wished and planted forcefully on others, is today a heavy yoke around its neck.

Do not do unto others that which if done to you will distress your heart and burden your spirit, . . . law of "cause and effect" (Karma).


Anyway, Abagworo. . . if you have any more question or if you want to open another can of worms. . . .please feel free to.[/quote]A post laden with fallacies as exemplified by the above constituted one of the reasons Nigeria needs to be disintegrated. I doubt in if you wrote this piece. The author did not show one iota of intellectual pedigree. Let me just write on three things about this drivel.

Firstly, most of the serving ministers under the Tafawa Balewa were physically present and even urged Orizu to hand power to Ironsi. In fact the piece of paper which the constituted authority was written on behelf of the executive council was provided a minister from northern region of Nigeria.

Secondly, it is a display of acute sense of naivety to accuse Ndigbo of anti-nationalism when Ojukwu insisted that Ogundipe or Wey or Adebayo not Njoku or Imo or Eze or Ojukwu should be commander in chief as traditionally demanded by the military parlance.

Owaza and Afam oil fields were equal in volume of crude oil pumped in 1964 as Olobiri even before oil were struck in any part of Bendel State. Biafra did not fight the war because of crude oil and this can not be said about Nigeria. Often heard nonsensical crap such as crude oil presence here or there is what gives people like me the audacity to seek the disintegration of Nigeria with Republic of Igbo land as a major option.

[quote author=Dudu_Negro link=topic=882413.msg10310726#msg10310726 date=1330641015]In explaining this situation to you, I started at ethnic turf level but you did not like that and I went to individual egotistic level, you still did not like that, I drilled up to sovereignty level. . . .it seems that is equally unacceptable to you.

Let us go into this discussions with some agreed protocols. At the beginning of te war, the following were true.

1. at the sovereign level, there was only one Nation - Nigeria. Biafra was a rebel group and not a Nation.
2. newly created Eastern Central State was part of Nigeria in dispute between Nigeria and the rebel group, Biafra.
3. The Head of Nigerian Government, Gowon, had sacked the Governor of Eastern Central State, Ojukwu.
4. Eastern Central state was bordered by newly created Bendel, Benue-Plateau , South Eastern and Rivers States. None of the bordering states was in rebellion.
5. Biafran rebels had crossed, in violation of the constitution of 1963, into territories of the Nigerian domain which by virtue of constituted power the Nigerian Army is obligated by statutory provisions of the law to defend with arms and might.
6. Asaba was a province of Bendel state and a Nigerian domain under the control of Nigerian Army, as were all other states to the East and up into Cameroon.
7. By hoisting its flag on the soil of any contingent province of the Nigerian sovereignty, Biafra had declared intent to invade and challenge the authority of the Nigerian Army.
8. By hoisting its flag and declaring a Republic of Biafra and of Benin with the Nigerian sovereignty, Biafra had grossly violated the constitution and therefore participated in treasonable acts.
9. All persons, individuals, organizations, provinces, ethnicities and bodies that aid, or ally with the rebels in acts of treason are equally and substantially in acts of rebellion and war against the Nigerian Army.
10. All of Biafran soldiers and their sympathisers, whether in principle or in practice are in war against Nigeria. Their roots and threats must be demolished and completely disbanded and eliminated untill the rebel flag is no longer flying over any sovereign domain within the jusridiction and supervision of the Nigerian government and its Army.


Is there any of these points you disagree with?

These are the parameters from which we should open the discussion on what happened in Asaba.[/quote]Nuts, this is how you look for my trouble. Anybody who sincerely knew the chronicle order of the events which led to Police Action in 1967 can easily discern you as either politically myopic or ludicrously disingenuous or brazenly bent out of human form by tribal sentiments.

There was unsuccessful coup in Nigeria where the coup plotters did not have control of entire regions in the federation. The action of the coup leader who usurped the position of Head of State and Commander in Chief was challenged by the military governor of eastern region based traditionally on the dictates of military parlance which states on the absence of Head of State, the second in command must assume the position of commander in chief. You should bear in mind that Gowon had already denied being a co-conspirator of July 29, 1966 coup. Since the whereabouts of Head of State is not known, Ojukwu adamantly stuck to the calling of military parlance and insisted that Ogundipe should be commander in chief. 

Since the July 1967 coup was partially successful and a region in the federation was under the control of another military commander who was not a conspirator, Aburi, Ghana was born. Before and during the conference in Aburi, Ghana, group of idiotic lappers, imbecilic dingbats and slimy cowards gathered around Gowon as representatives of Nigeria while Ojukwu appeared as a representative of eastern region of Nigeria.
At Aburi, Ghana, Ojukwu singlehandedly horded the ninnies to agree on principles the issues that will keep Nigeria intact. However, when the trolls on Nigerian delegate touched down in Lagos, they reneged on the agreements reached in Ghana and decided to act like bullies and resorted to use of guns and decrees to achieve their ends. As a son of his father, Ojukwu refused to be bullied.

For posterity sake, Gowon and Nigeria commenced the war of attrition against eastern region on June 6, 1967 and by June 26, 1967 Ubani, Garkem, Enugu Ezike and Obollo Afor were occupied by Nigerian forces. Ndigbo have not be known as cowards and at the face of insurmountable odds and imminent military annihilation by Gowon and Nigeria decided to standup and fight at least scratched the faces of already culturally mutilated faces of some of aggressors. 

Again whether Gowon decided to divide Nigeria into bits and pieces through draconian decrees, eastern region of Nigeria did not give a rat arse. Since mid-western and western regions were part of Nigeria that had attacked eastern region at places such Eungu Ezike and Obollo Afor as well as military amphibious activities in Ubani (Bonny), eastern region or Biafra regarded these regions as open season and had every audacious pedigree to launch attack on Nigeria through those corridors.

Of course in any war, enemies are marked and possibly hunted down. I do not see any other evidence that suggested otherwise in case of Asaba and Benin City or Warri except Asaba is Igbo land. In addition, enmity created during a war is meant to last forever. I guess you could catch my drift about disintegration of cesspit called Nigeria.

alj harem:
And it by my brothers.

According to Onlytruth, South-southerners were targeted. Always trying to draw company with una

Major Ekanem was just another solider killed during the eve of the baifra war that was cause by Igbos themselves

so what gives

Now my turn, let me show you the people your brothers killed because of ethnocentric reasons

1. Bello

2. Akintola

3. Ademounga, wife and unborn child

4. Tafa balewa in lagos (yes you killed all those people in their respective turf)

etc

[b]Now here is one for you as well

Fajuyi felt quite safe. However, on the 25th of July, a contingent of heavily armed troops, all of the Northerners, speeded from a nearby Barracks to The Governors Lodge Ibadan. The time was about 8pm. Fajuyi was entertaining his guest, General Agui-Ironsi. The troops easily got access to the sitting room. Without being announced, they forced themselves into the sitting room. They knew their victims. Without any ceremony, they ordered General Ironsi to stand up and be searched. With no struggle from Ironsi, he obeyed. One of them began to handcuff Ironsi. Fajuyi could not comprehend what was happening. "You can't do that” he bellowed.  "Why? You keep away “The most senior officer of the troops ordered Fajuyi.  “He is my guest, and you can't do that to him right in my house” "We've come to take him away” Responded one of the officers. "Take him away to where?” "That's none of your business; you keep away and sit down”, ordered the most senior of the rebel officers. But Fajuyi continued " I am a Yoruba; and we Yorubas do not allow gangsters to kidnap our guests from our home I can't let you hurt him “Fajuyi insisted. “Very well; Yoruba man; we'll teach you a lesson. We'll take both of you, “said the senior officer as he administered a hard blow on the face of Fajuyi. Then the troops pushed him and Ironsi into a waiting Land Rover.
(J)    Both men were then driven to a nearby bush and shot. The time was only nine o’clock.

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This is one of the most idiotic drivels I have ever read on this forum. Even if this is an act in a plot organized by the Boys Company from Zaria military school, the script would have been rejected by the squad leaders. What a pathetic desperation to look relevant in a political telescope.

Francis Fajuiyi was not the first soldier to confront team of coup plotters nor uttered such words because there was no time or ear to listen to such nonsensical sermon from a soldier who has no command of a broom.

The soldiers who confronted the team of coup plotters in government house in Ibadan were Njoku and Nwankwo. Andy Nwankwo even drew a pistol on T Danjuman who had grenade with the pin pulled. I had been resourcefully informed that events which took place in government house was more of a military style action than sermon reading scene depicted by this excerpt from publication of 1967 western region of Nigeria’s gazette.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=883414.msg10309261#msg10309261 date=1330623698]Are you serious old man ? Adekunle is incompetent yet he ordered his soldiers to kill anything killable and that was effectively done ? Why not tell me why your warlord with all his foreign expertise couldnt win the war ?[/quote]Do you amount to anything as you are running your putrid mouth on this forum the same way Adekunle ran his mouth in 1967? I guess you will not take your deluded self as competent. By the middle of 1969, the junk soldier was in Port Harcourt sending SOS to Lagos.

By this time in reference, 16th brigade under Major Etuk has be reduced to ineffective unit while 15th brigade under Major Makanjuola has been decommissioned. The 13th brigade under Major Oni was holed up in Igrinta by 52nd brigade of Biafran “S” division unit under Major Frank Okilo who was desperate to recapture Port Harcourt.

If you have few brain cells above your shoulders, you should ask why the loudmouthed GOC of 3MCDO was ingloriously reduced to traffic warden in Apapa Wharf. I say intellectual midget just think, olodo

[quote author=Dudu_Negro link=topic=882413.msg10309456#msg10309456 date=1330625501]rotflmao!! Well thank you for substituting one insult with another! I will overlook it.

Asaba was not part of Biafra at the time of its attack by Nigerian troops. It was part of Nigeria. . . .so because it was a domain of Nigeria Biafra had no interest in what happened in it. I need to hear from you why Asaba should be deemed a part of Biafra and not a Nigerian domain on the day Nigerian soldiers stepped boots on its soil.[/quote]As I wrote in my initial post, Asaba was not part of eastern region hence Biafra. However, Asaba is a bona fide Igbo land. Germany attacked neighboring countries because of ill treatment meted to Germanic folks in those countries. Even if Biafra had stood as country and Asaba folks are treated as we read by units of 2nd division of Nigerian army, Biafra will not stand unconcerned as Igbo people across the River Niger are slaughtered like goats.

The successes the 2nd division enjoyed in non-Igbo territories within mid-western region went through the window as the unit inched into Agbor and through Igbo lands beyond Agbor.

The frustration of the bugged down unit hoping to celebrate easy victory was climaxed at Asaba as every attempt to leap into Onitsha was furiously and methodically repelled by Biafra’s 11th division. It did not surprised me that few commanders within division thought native Igbo people in Asaba were the result of their failures instead of their tactical incompetence.

@Negro

Nuts, I apologize for my unguarded utterances.

[quote author=Dudu_Negro link=topic=882413.msg10309171#msg10309171 date=1330622950]do you want discussions or insult. . . I can do both satisfactorily!

If Nigerian Army killed those people, then the action of Nigerian Army in Asaba should be seen as a domestic problem contained within the sovereignty of Nigeria and you should stop invoking Biafra in it. Also, stop calling UN since this was a domestic and not international issue.[/quote]I had no intention to throw insult into the debate. I wonder why you did not remember this line from your previous post in response to my post. I had posited Asaba was part of mid-western region of Nigeria and the act of massacre in Asaba instead of Benin City or Warri or Sapele was a matter of concern to any reasonable and sensible human being.

Of course, the killing in Kaduna, Lagos and Ibadan were Nigerian issues since there was no Biafra in the equation. But this can not be said about Asaba massacre which has everything to do with dispute between Nigeria and Biafra. If you can not understand the difference and linkage, I can not help you.

Again, I did not mean to insult you but a person of average intellect such as you should not flaunt ignorance in the public.