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Mr anony: If thehomer can really pay attention, he'll see that this illustration exposes the fatal flaw in his arguments. There is really no reason why the alien should decide to hold humans to a different moral standard apart from the other animals.

Hettymoore: dt father-daughter story is false, he was just trying to compare lesbianism with in.cest. the real story is the lesbian one, thanks.

thehomer: Humans have been known to kill others for mates.

thehomer: I'm telling you that lions aren't introspective.

thehomer: This shows your ignorance about the requirements for decision making.

thehomer: e.g can a lion stop itself from copulating based on introspection?

thehomer: Now you persist in your buffoonery. Need I remind you that you're the one making the argument that they're no different from humans. I'm arguing the contrary.

thehomer: Exactly? Really? Do you have any reports on humans killing and eating their spouses after intercourse?

thehomer: Dogs aren't the sorts of creatures that make moral judgements.

Mr anony: again he switches

.........The man of this school goes first to a political meeting, where he argues that morality is based on empathy and judgment then he takes his hat and umbrella and goes on to a scientific meeting, where he proves that animals with empathy and judgment are not the sort of animals that make moral decisions.......

thehomer: Sure massive empathy is all that is needed. That is why they would kill off other cubs and take over kills they didn't make. They've even started running a system of determining who would lead the pack by voting.

thehomer: Lions aren't the sorts of creatures that make moral judgements.

thehomer: I hope you take that time to reflect on the simple questions I've asked you because your tantrums don't help you. Answering them would have helped move you away from the sorts of simplistic ideas you're presenting.

Mr anony: Yeah but lions have empathy for other lions

thehomer: Yes. That is why they've come up with the Pythagoras' theorem and used similar concepts to modify their environment and themselves.

thehomer: Whether or not it is appropriate for humans to treat each other in that way.

Mr anony: Why a praying mantis, why not a chicken, a gorrilla, a dog, a shark or an ant. What exactly is this "significant" difference that prescribes what moral actions a man ought to take?

thehomer: This is not an answer to the question I asked you but I'll answer yours. I hope you'll answer mine.

It is wrong when it comes to moral considerations.

thehomer: You're simply confused but I'm sure you can still see the light. I already asked you:

Deep Sight: If you think that animals cannot and do not excercise VERY KEEN AND SPECIFIC judgment, then you need to start watching Natgeo Wild and Animal Planet a little more, son. You are not well acquainted with the ways of animals.

Now, I asked, and I keep asking:

1. You agree that we are animals

2. You agree that we are predatory and territorial animals.

Why on earth would it then be wrong for a predatory territorial animal to use its bigger brain and smarter sense to perfect its predatory and territorial arts?

thehomer: Do you think that the fact that humans are "smarter" and can exercise judgement is something significantly different?

thehomer: Still don't see your point here. Does the man of this school go to the scientific meeting to beat up his colleagues and take their land?

The general point of the quote is pretty clear. When you start splitting it up, you'll just be destroying his point.

thehomer: You do know that there are many different species of animals out there.

Mr anony: .........[size=13pt]The man of this school goes first to a political meeting, where he complains that savages are treated as if they were beasts; then he takes his hat and umbrella and goes on to a scientific meeting, where he proves that they practically are beasts[/size].......

GK Chesterton