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thehomer: Looks like you have a real hard-on for me and I don't know why.

I haven't encountered any right or good arguments in favour of the existence of [size=16pt]their[/size] Gods. Do you have any? I'm willing to hear your best three.

Logicboy03: Now more than ever, I believe atheists truly need an atheist section

thehomer: This is another slanderous claim that you'll have to demonstrate.

Mr anony: This is what the Trinity means in short form

1. God is One
2. The Father is God
3. The Son is God
4. The Holy Spirit is God
5. The Father is not the Son
6. The Father is not the Holy Spirit
7. The Son is not the Father
8. The Son is not the Holy Spirit
9. The Holy Spirit is not the Son
10. The Holy Spirit is not the Father
11. God is one being and three persons.


I challenge anyone to produce any bible verse/verses that refutes the above statements. And please when you do, point out which of the statements you are trying to refute and how your bible verses refutes it/them.

I await your responses


P/s: If you don't believe the bible is the word of God, please don't bother commenting. Your opinion is not needed here

Logicboy03: Agreed but why call it god?

Your argument is only philsophical not scientific.

Your god has no physical properties.....how can something exist without physical properties?

Your deist god falls apart when questioned

wiegraf: Manly? Well.

For the most part, no, abstract like I mentioned. I only mentioned the 'not special' bit to highlight I don't think consciousness is particularly special. You might be heading in other directions though.

I'll defend my manly honor if you get around to opening a thread, or address these questions directly by opening another thread.

Looking forward to it oga..

Ah, I was supposed to have left.

Logicboy03: nope.....the first sentence already highlights the problem of the deistic god.

Logicboy03: The problem is the definition of "god".....A deistic god could exist but he wouldnt be a "god" in the sense that he would only be raw energy or some alien lifeform.

So, I truly doubt that there is a good theistic argument

wiegraf: Well, it was a bit confusing. Not saying I'm not an a$$, but it still comes of as silly, my opinion.

We'll deal with our issues another day good ser, I really shouldn't be procrastinating and I'm fairly sure we'll reach a pointless impasse. I will open a thread when I'm in the mood, and whenever you could, you could then indulge me at your discretion.

But yes, most of those are (for the most part, I'll have to look at them) abstract. My point being materialists do not deny the existence of the abstract, and I already mentioned that hence I see no need to answer to the questions. Materialist POV is simply that they rely on the physical, the physical being the base. Also, I view thoughts simply as computations, like any PC can do. Only thing they miss are emotions, the ability to feel, etc, so I don't consider them anything special.

Anyhoo, enjoy the stouts.

thehomer: Maybe there are but don't you think that as a Christian, you shouldn't be bearing false witness? What you've said amounts to lying against me. The way for you to show that you're not lying is for you to back up your slander with evidence.

wiegraf: That's some butthurt, did I perchance jizz in your break fast my good intellectual?

wiegraf: So you have one? Can you get to it pls?

chance has no laws that can make behavior predictable

Mazaje:
You haven't show this to be true in any way. . .

wiegraf: Did you have a point?

wiegraf: You seem to misunderstand. I have, and had, absolutely no intention of indulging in your chocolate flavored $hit. Get to your point. And, um, the f*&k do I care if you're annoyed? That's your prerogative, it's a free world.

mazaje: I am talking about a specific god like the christian god that has defined attributes, not your imaginary oneness of infinity that is undefined and has no defined attributes except what YOU personally chose to give it. . .Oneness of infinity is just a god idea you personally created out of thin air and it has nothing to do with the point am making. . .

wiegraf: Erm, you're talking about egos?

Are you going to get to the point or not. In case it's not clear, I really could care less for you.... OPINIONS. Just want to point out the foolishness, and quickly.

wiegraf: they do not deny [size=16pt]the existence[/size] of the abstract, yes?

wiegraf: Look up words like synergy along with eediocy.

If being matter depresses you so much, pele. Many of us are perfectly fine accepting reality. Contrary to the beliefs of those who need special friends to deal with various fears, barbarians that need the fear of DOG before they value other life enough to respect it, those so unambitious and sheeple-like they are incapable of setting goals for themselves, plain old looneys, etc etc, godless materialists do just fine when assigning their various values.

Even non-eediotic theists have no problems understanding this.

wiegraf: That's my point, you're rather foolish.

Deep Sight: Thehomer and anyone else, including yourself sire, who believes that mindless matter purposelessly assembled human beings over time, is a prize winning eddiot and certainly no better than a goat or rooster in terms of brains or perception.

wiegraf: One doesn't agree with you = eediocy? Do you know what eediocy means?

This is all opinions, and we know what they're like, but I would think that word very clearly applies to you.

Uyi Iredia: Agreed. My point still stands.

mazaje: Nope it doesn't. . .Dark energy, dark matter and multiverses are NOT things that intereact with humans, they do not have a personal relatiionship with humans, do not answer their prayers, protect them or favor them over other humans. . .God is said to do all these things, if it is true then god must be detected in one way or the other by a neutral observer. . .actually the bible even talks about signs that will follow believers so that those that do not believe will see and believe. . .The fact that we do not see any of these claims or promises in reality and the with the fact that the christian god that is said to be detectable remains undetectable means he does not exist. . .Mind you when we talk about god, we are talking about god as advertised or presented by the christians not, the deist undetectable god people like anony are trying to sell here. . .The god as presented in the bible is NOT what anony or davidylan are trying to sell on this thread. . .

Kay 17: @anony

Your double pendulum diagram shows a good degree of symmetry, perfect lines and angles. If you can notice on a plane, some intersecting points are arranged to form a curve.

thehomer: You don't consist of matter? That's interesting.

Not just time.

Hmm I would be indeed. Maybe you can get the corpse a bit part in a movie.

Then your comparison is inappropriate.