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alfaman2: Ah, you mean the fossil of this guy?

https://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/914/Crocoduck.jpg

Logicboy03:


Deepsight? When did you become this foolish? You want to learn about evolution while disbelieving that we all evolved from common ancestors within the lifespan of the earth?

alfaman2: It is good that you realised that you are an id.iot here. So I will answer your question. There aren't any intermediate fossils.
To understand me better I wiil need you to answer this similarly id.iotic question for me: "where/who is the intermediate relative between you and your cousin?"

ooman: Or the intermediate link between him and his mum, since they are different from each other and he came from her.

ooman: Deepsight common, this plagiarized writeup of yours is old and settled already. Will post answers for you soon when am back on my computer.

alexleo: This is just my thought about the reason the pope resigned. I believe he must have told himself the truth about how some of their doctrines and traditions runs contrary to the bible and the danger it poses for him at the judgment throne. He must have told himself the truth about the unbiblical and unholy hidden practices that is attached to the personality and office of a pope and the danger it poses for him at the judgment throne. He must have reminded himself of the truth that GOD IS NOT A RESPECTER OF PERSONS. At this last lap of his life's journey, he must have thought it wise that its better he steps out of this office and make a genuine repentance that will make him truly a heavenly candidate than retaining the office with whatever sinful strings attached to it and going to hell, hence the resignation. He must have told himself that an eternal rest with God still remains the most important thing than going to hell. He must have heard the testimony of Pope John Paul in hell and decided not to wave it off with hands as other catholics are doing. He must have told himself that fighting the ungodly practices in catholic might lead to a total chaos that will shake catholic and christianity at large and opted to rather step out and work out his own salvation while praying too for the church to be liberated from the grip of those ungodly practices. This might be a wise pope indeed. I pray God to use this period of his private life to revive him, visit him with genuine salvation and prepare him for heaven. This is just my humble thought. I may be right or wrong, totally right or totally wrong, a little right or a little wrong. ONLY GOD KNOWS THE TRUTH.

Logicboy03: Yawn.

Why should I talk to you about my personal problems?

Are you going to give me some daddy advice?


Big daddy deepsight's looking out for logicboy!

all4naija: Another one of funny excuses! You keep making fool of yourself all the time. Whatever that means to you it still like begging the question. You wrote The Cowardice of Atheism without having any meaningful reason in your head of what your title suggest. However, I need a better explanations for that

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Logicboy03: You are delusional.

What in my posts gives you the idea that I have mental problems?

Logicboy03: lol.....this is why people dont prosper in Nigeria. Someone talks about his feeling and then we stigmatize the person that the person has mental conditions and if the "diagnoser" is a christian, he will recommend you to a pastor to slap the witch/demon out of you.

You are an educated person. Dont fall my hand

Logicboy03: First of all, I want to say that this letter is to say thank you for making me a better atheist. I am actually happier based upon a certain realization which I could have only come across by discussing with you guys. Thanks guys!

Contrary to public opinion, I am actually a very gentle and shy person. Anony can attest to this. There is an unwritten law/theory on the internet that the loudest people on the internet are actually covering up for their timidity in real life. That being said, on nairaland, there are days that I have been so frustrated by christians that it spoils my day in real life. I am not usually an angry person but I have one weakness; I get angry when people can not understand my point of view - especially when I am explaining a simple logical issue and they reject it without consideration. Fortunately, I am great at explaining myself in real life and this rarely happens to me with friends and family. Even when I met Anony, it was easy for us to get our differing points across. Anony quickly understood why I am the way I am on Nairaland. Even my christian family is moving towards agnosticism because of my oratory skills.

On, nairaland, communication is limited to text and there are people who are either not used to logic or just dubious or unwilling to accept a different point of view. For the most times on Nairaland, my points get across very well with my written work (as evidenced by people who rethink their religon due to arguments hers). However, there are times that I into "all-bold, capslock rage" of abuse on Nairaland with Davidylan, Frosbel, Anony and the usual culprits. This is mostly because they dont see my point of view or that we disagree on what is logical. This rage got to a peak on the "Cowardice of Atheism" thread where I was shouting and hollering at the denial of the problems atheist face. Davidylan, Anony and Enigma were having fun at my expense and I was really pissed on this last thursday and friday. https://www.nairaland.com/1198534/cowardice-atheism/29

Seeing that I already wanted to cutback on my Nairaland activities, I took a break since that friday and started wondering why I got angry and wound up so much. I started reading my old posts/threads and realised something; I usually debate people on the assumptions that they are willing to learn and ready to changer their minds- but when they don't I get frustrated as if I have failed in teaching them something. I noticed that I keep repeating points that these christians kept dismissing and mocking casually. Upon this realisation, I started laughing and things started to make sense.....

For instance, when I look at the threads talking about morality, the christians are always willing to dismiss any logical argument against the activities of God in the old testament with the illogical line; "you are not reading the bible with the holy ghost, you are too literal". These people know that they are wrong but are not willing to change and learn. I started laughing at my naive self of reacting to their dismissal of logic and trying to et them to reason. I started seeing what some christians truly are on Nairaland; people who are not willing to learn after realising that their religion might be false while dismissing/attacking atheists. Another example would be the "Cowardice of atheism" thread where three christians deluded themselves over 30 pages claiming that atheists face little or no discrimination in Nigeria and we are cowards for not being open about our disbelief. I was angry but now I realise that it is a case of desperation!

In short, I want to say thank you for helping me to realize an issue plaguing me and also to release myself from tireless arguments on Nairaland. I have started to avoid unnecessary arguments and reduce my input here on Nairaland.

I also have learned something new and good for me. Whenever I see a christian or theist say;
-atheism is a religion
-you don't understand the bible you are reading without the holy ghost
-A fool says that there is no god in his heart
-atheists have no morality
-atheists are all evil
or lastly,
-Only Yaweh can give objective morality,

I now know that the person is speaking out of desperation or ignorance at a last ditch attempt to dismiss the logical argument of an atheist/agnostic/unbeliever because none of these statements are true or logical





A big thank you to you guys! Ramen!

ooman4: God on the contrary expects me to believe in ancient mysticism[b] without updates.

MacDaddy01: Keep speaking from both sides of your mouth.

What did you tell me in your private email about sharing ones disbeliefs in Nigeria

Logicboy03: Deepsight's God- creates the world from nothing and then f4cks off

aletheia: Here is an example of the inconsistent, illogical atheist worldview. So "the rail tracks would be evidence for the train &c". . .and yet the Cosmos in all it's multi-arrayed beauty and order is not evidence for God?

Enigma: Going back to the main point of this thread, I'd like to point something out for the records ---- especially considering that some were shouting that Tai Solarin is the only example of an atheist that has held political office in Nigeria. Their point of course was another example of poor thinking and closing eyes to both facts and logic.

Let me put it in this 'provocative' way: technically, Nigeria has a 100% record when it comes to appointing a known and able atheist to political office.

- As far as we know (well, as far as I know), Tai Solarin is in Nigerian history the only atheist courageous enough (i.e. not a coward) to declare himself an atheist, and that was qualified and available at some point for political office. He was indeed appointed to political office --- without discrimination on the basis of the fact (as was very very well known) that he was an atheist.

- If anyone knows any atheist who was courageous enough (and not a coward) to declare himself an atheist, qualified and available for political office, and was discriminated against and prevented from the office because he is/was an atheist, I would gratefully accept their correction.

Logicboy03: Wouldnt it be a boring thread? It would be Anony vs the rest. Too easy to destory their points. See how Ihedinobi is fumbling......

BTW, I still have an itch for debunking you that needs to be scratched

Mr_Anony:
Morality is To discriminate between right and wrong. . . .and no I don't see how the mere concept of discriminating between right and wrong imposes upon one an ought to do either right or wrong.

jayriginal: Subtle word play going on here. Lets make some substitutions.

Virtual particles do not emerge from nothing (which is what you said).
Virtual particles do not emerge in nothing (which I'm sure is what you mean)
Virtual particles are uncaused (which is what you are questioning).

The best kind of vacuum obtainable still has low gaseous pressure and virtual particles pop in and out of existence with no apparent causse. Its not the same thing as saying that the low gaseous pressure is the cause of the virtual particles.

Ihedinobi: Love is not obligatory.

Beretta92: I suppose that a perfect god would make a perfect world,ergo,the need wouldn't arise to ask anything of him since his creation is also perfect.