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mrphysics:
It is believed that as we grow in our study of quantum mechanics we will discover that most of the things we believe now is even wrong. they are questions we still don't have answers to now but that does not mean that we won't have answers to it in the nearest future.

In physics something can come out of nothing, infact in nuclear chain reaction, we have seen things create themselves. Does it answer your question??

Let's just be patient with time and science.

if left to our natural law of causes and effects....the statement "in physics something can come out of nothing" is just plain wrong? firstly, in physics wat is "nothing" ?

dayvid0bedz:
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Sorry got mixed up.

OK Bro

Owliver:
any other use for the sperm in his body? or there was none at that time?

another stupid question! I bet u cud have thought of the fact that Eve was created out of Adam... so wat if Adam had been composite? Male n Female? stop asking stupid questions! ur just schooled...will u die for not having sex?

dayvid0bedz:
Funny!!
Got nothing to prove to you bruvh..
You okay now?

u should direct ur comments elsewhere bro!

Owliver:
let me ask you one more time..

in Genesis God created Adam and had no earlier intention to create eve(as narrated). now what was the use of Adan's d1ck since eve was not in the picture earlier. or was there no d1ck? what do you think?

the question makes sense to me.

well I guess it makes sense to those who only think about sex all day long forgetting that they use the same organ of the body to "urinate" .....so how did that question make sense again? abeg tell me .... dumb question

Owliver:
reading the creation story of Genesis. it's as if God earlier had no intention to create a woman.

so I need to know, what was the use of Adams d1ck before eve was created? or was there no d1ck?

wat are d uses of ur d.ick? and u think asking wat u asked made any sense at all?
secondly ur question shows how naive u r wen it comes to the issue of God!

answer my question and see how dumb ur comment come across

Edifyer:
Muslim Answer:

Say, “He is Allah, (the) One.
The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks).
He begets not, nor was He begotten;
And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him.” (Quran 112)

Anyone that fits into the above 4 line definition is a God

why d bolded? and why does that simplistic definition define God? was Satan begotten? did Satan beget? and wats d favourite drink of Satan?
Satan can easily be God from d above shitty definition...please go and convince ur Muslim brothers even more that "allah" is God....for me I don't believe and will never believe dat

some pained people on the thread!!!! #Yorubademons rock!!!

our boys are cheats, dem girls wan die for our neck,
our girls are lousy, dem boys rather marry dem dan their money mongering girls!!!

move on with that!!!

These same vehicles will be used by these police to start collecting bribes and raiding innocents walking on the streets just to get money, meanwhile the governor when probed in a few years to this time will claim most of the vehicles are now bad that's why d billions of "dollars" he spent is no longer been seen on the roads!!! When will Nigerians wise up and stop celebrating all dis nonsense?!!!

christopher123:
Oga ..I wonder why you are abusive after you turn and tell me that you guys are the most respectful


I said the preponderance is high in Yoruba

It is rare to see an igbo polygamist
It is rare to see igbo kids born our of wedlock
It is rare to see igbo women having different kids for different men

I am not saying it doesn't happen but it is very high in Yoruba land


Ok take a look at 10 Yoruba family you will see that 9 either have kids outside wedlock or have polygamist somewhere


Why not do the research ..been abusive won't help here

Like I had mentioned earlier, when passing the whole Yoruba boys cheat as fun, let it remain fun....but passing it as a fact is just plain nonsense....u have again made an assumption based on blind reasoning, let me put it this way, that family of 10, of which u'd claim 9 with "kids" out of wedlock, what religion do they practice Christianity or Islam --- that leads me to "do a proper research" and see why its that way --- if ur so called 9 out of 10 is even tenable

That being said...how many igbos practice Islam Wudnt this account for the marriage structures u complain abt in the Yorubas instead of simply saying its their nature What abt the northern region of the Country and the people from there? Wud u say 10 out of 10 becos they have more polygamous families than the so called Yorubas

Learn to do research before u pass ur ignorant anger as "fact"!!!

Dharey55:
Am a yoruba guy,smart and handsome all the igbo galz in my class wanna have me pls what should i do now ?

show them the #yorubademon in u...simply be the demon we are!!!

#Yorubaboys rock!

Ok, I have gone through the thread and some peeps are saying its true that Yorubas are promiscuous. But in reality if anyone of u think about it well, I bet those saying its true have lived 90% of their lives amongst Yorubas, so whom else wud they say is Promiscuous wen the population dey live in is Yoruba How many of these people live in other regions of the Country? Secondly, many Yorubas are "muslims" which gives liberty to dem to marry as much as atleast 4 wives So, how can this reflect the nature of the "Yoruba boys"? Abeg! If its abt fun let it be fun, if its about fact, pls state fact....I spent my service year in Nasarawa...mehn those dudes are so promiscuous, and the igbo corpers I served with are no better, always "preeqing" their students, one igbo dude even tried raping a fellow corps member...so what are we now sayin?

***ok, any #yorubademon here? I wan join club oh, honestly***

Maxi112:
apart from lazying around, sleeping around, blackmailing there fellow dude to there bea.... what else is left for Yoruba dude?

I dnt keep yoruba dude as a friend, even in my hood and office....

there dudes are noting to write home abt.....


"nobody do eyes service reach them" shm

So this is the Yoruba dude meter!!! I fall short of dis oh!!! I will strive wit my friends so we can measure up!!! Thanks for d data!!!

This is what schooling in naija does to people...u don't even know where in the society u fit in....I personally will want Nigerians to stop sending their kids to schools(most schools of the world esp. Nigerian schools) which primarily have become prisons for the many cos they will think they are not useful until after graduation and after that, most of them whom have dreams of becoming one thing or the other, wud have lost such passion to the passage of time being brainwashed that first class result is the all in all....I think our society wud be better if we are all skilled and use our skills in development of our society...personally I'd rather send my children first to primary school (1-6) after which he/she wud skip d secondary school prison and go learn something professional (outside africa ofcos) till age 21...come back home with such skill and den tell me what he/she wants (school or practice)...any pick of such child z a good choice, at d end of graduation, there is no doubt that person wud be useful to the society!!! Our education system z a mess and we just need basic skills in our early childhood passion

the religious part is quite funny though!!! but its worth noting that over the years, the Yorubas have seen that war isn't the answer, it will breed contempt, nobody wants to be a loser!!! as we can see with this Biafra thing, it probably won't go away

That shit up there just gets me laughing!!!

There are only 2 set of boobs that won't sag!!!

1. Artificial Boobs!!!
2. Boobs not under the influence of Gravity or Gravity Agents (Boys, Men, Children)

Joshuabase:
It appears you need to be educated on the scientific process


Hypothesis
Experimentation
Inference
Theory
Experimentation
Law

Evolution is a well known fact just like it's a fact the sun is a sphere

Please give me an extensive work on Evolution that follows all this scientific processes!!! and may I ask u wat a fact is Mr Educator!!!

frank317:
Are u for real? Are u comparing a benign advert to preaching? Do u see the effect of religion in our society? Are u comparing treats of hell, condemnation, segregation to an ordinary advert? Dude u sound sick. Have u ever heard that religion is an opium of the masses? Bomb blasts is as a result of religion, people die in churches like fowls... U compare preaching in the bus to advert? Something that is making parents hate their children, something that makes some marriages not work... U compare to advert? U need a brain check.

U are plain delusional... Ur God is nonexistent... Its just an idea which is affecting us all one way or the other. Look at the op, he does not believe in God but the idea is affecting him and u just want he not to talk?

Again how can we stop bashing u guys when you guys won't shut the f**k up. You hate being challenged. No one will bash you if you will stop shoving an idea that is not helping our dear country into our faces. And dont u dare play the dumb advert card to me.

Look at nairaland... Our effort is helping people think for themselves for once. That's not waste of time, our efforts are yielding fruits no matter how small it is.

I will gladly stop pushing my godlessness to ur face if you stop preaching, condemning and threatning us. Now you see how it is when the table is turn around. We will always be here... Deal with it.

Like I said, I am getting bored!!! So many insults (they are welcomed anyway) and yet so many accusations against "religion" (of which I won't even categorize myself into any by the way). failed marriages, bomb blasts, parents hate children and vice versa----can I honestly ask u one question,
Are these problems exclusive to "religionists"

What of those whom have claimed that religion helped them? In marriage, and having to repent from killing people, exiled children coming back home to their parents

U claim that bus preaching brings the "hell scare" --- do u get scared of that? Isn't it non-existent like God to u

Yeah, I can see ur progress on NL -- its been earth shattering! Church populations are reducing at an exponential rate! Kudos to ur efforts!!!

and religionists too will always be here!!! as well as I

frank317:
Its obvious u have comprehension problem. The essence of the thread is about both and most importantly, the frustration caused by his father's belief.


Where do u want him to post this? On Facebook? His intention is also to confirm his idea that God is nonexistent. It is not for God to do anything because God does not even exist and can't do nothing. He did not ask anyone to pray for his dad. Seriously did u even read the op? His dad has been praying for ages, and there is not where in the op that he suggested he needed ur flimsy prayers. How does ur head really work?



U are clearly delusional... No wonder u are a Christian. Not everything is about what u think. Sometimes u take time to imagine what others are going through. This is really not about ur God. Its not to make u angry. Its to let out his frustration and get real support from real people who understand.

Thanks for the insults! Perhaps the one delusional is you, since the questions I asked are merely to buttress the point I had made earlier abt the reason the thread was created!!! But why wud d caption be "New Post (If My Father Is Not Healed Before This Year Ends, Then God Exist Not)"? Does this mean if his "father" is healed, then He will believe in the existence of God Doesn't he know that God doesn't exist already many years back? again why is d thread here? Of what use is the info to us? Or cud it be that we should know that God doesn't exist (which will make ur first claim about both being wrong and deceitful) So he now claims its not about "ur God (i.e God)" but God just so happens to jump into d title and a proof of God's non existence too??!!!----that one gives me the hiccups from laughing too hard!!! What exactly do u want to tell us OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let us know! I believe that depends on the outcome of the "father's" condition!

can u engage meaningfully without insults? --- u are starting to bore me!!!

Joshuabase:
Time doesn't read differently in different parts of the universe, your knowledge of gravitational time - dilation is shallow.

Ok Sir, who knows more, please explain it to me!

a simple question I ask:
Is Evolution scientific?

zeemahn:
The last time I checked, you were the one that posted this



And according to what Science have been discovering, the universe is over 45 billion years old. So you're the one that did not read or understand what you wrote.

what criteria do we use to chose what is literal and what is not literal in the bible?

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don't be in haste to post in ur futile effort of Bible thrashing! The universe isn't "45 billion years old". Its just about 13Billion years old! and am not here to give u a full treat on how they arrive at that nor show u that the 6 days of creation of the Bible gives that! I pointed some info to u which u chose to ignore all in a bid to make a point (which u also rushed and erred)...I mentioned d fact that time isn't constant everywhere, and dat its even affected by out expanding universe of which the expansion factor even played a major important role in determing the age of the universe! So if u really want to make urself a professor in Biblical studies! Kindly make some research of this in relation to d Bible! Thank you

As per the Criteria used in picking literal or not! Historical context and Biblical definitions are just more than enough

frank317:
Stop proving you are not wise. Stop displaying your folly.

How can people who dont believe in God be quiet when you guys keep pushing ur belief to our faces. You guys are there in the buses, TV, radio, on the streets, at the market, early in the morning, even knocking on our doors. You preach falsehood all over there place and expect not to be challenged? You condemn us and pride yourself with Jewish myth and expect not to be challenged?

Lol... You hate challenge dont you? All you want is do your thing and others just watch u like mumu. Abeg go sit down.

see ur folly? do u stop ppl from advertising their goods? even if u don't like it how does one preaching means forcing it on u? as much as u don't want to hear it, people who want it are around too? Should they be deprived of that becos u don't want it? What kind of reasoning is dis sef? I don't hate challenge, I hate wen people contradict themselves, u say God doesn't exist and yet u won't let this "non existent being" rest from ur bashing, meanwhile if people who are religious go on dat route with u, u start shouting that they are intolerant n bigot!!! My question is "why waste ur time on nothing?" Now I see it clearly, u hate to be condemned right? cud dis be why u convince urself its "falsehood" and "myth"? cos it condemns u? Perhaps d condemnation myth is spot on about u den!

I for an one doesn't get bothered wen people condemn, especially wen they hv misunderstood me, not to talk of talking abt myth!
Thanks for proving my point, let the myth rest! and as u know, people will come to "ur truth" that its a myth na...leave dem to do dat on their own...."Stop pushing ur God-less world view on our faces"

zeemahn:
You see, opinions among bible scholars concerning this topic differs. Some take the 6000 years literally while others insist that due to so so and so, it correspond to what science says.You should not expect me to know when even bible scholars have contradictory views about the age of the earth and universe.

But either way, what criteria do we use to chose what is literal and what is not literal in the bible?

Am not sure u read wat I posted...if u did, u won't ask which criteria I used! The Bible was specific in saying "day" and describing it as "sun up and sun down"....so why wud I do gymnastics with it? Isn't it plain enuf?

Jadonjack:
I want to believe you are old enough to reject a translator if brought to you


Learn to read comprehensively before posting comments. Read again, I'm sure yu missing smtin

Yeah, thanks. I don't know how to read at all....
Here are a few questions for u
1. What's d essence of the thread? Is it about ur "father's" well being or abt the existence of God?
2. What does posting this on NL supposed to do? Is it to get God to b aware of ur "father's" illness or for the God-believing populace to pray to their "non existent" God about ur "father's" condition? or u believe God will be notified (if He doesn't know already) cos He gets NL's updates?

I hope it will be clear for all to see now!!!
Kindly tell us the essence of the thread! Since am wrong on the point I made before!

scully95:
Let me ask Ifa. Ifa says:Olodumare is not the same God of hebrew and jews in the Bible.
Olodumare did not create Satan and that Esu is not satan.. This is religious scam and propaganda by the jews and their God is also not the same God of heavens and Earth in Yoruba Mythology.

true, but does this mean that God doesn't exist? does it mean an event didn't take place cos several people reported it differently? so wats ur point exactly?

BodyKiss:
If the idea of enternal nothingness to everything sounds ridiculous to you, so dose enternal being to everything, to me. It's more plausible to believe in eternal nothingness to everything if you put in consideration, the billions of years of processes it took, than to believe that a being popped out from nowhere and started blabbing to himself for 6 days, and bang... the universe and everything in it appeared.

That said, I'm no creationist, and I'm pretty certain that your knowledge on the subject is very very limited, and your comparison... very shallow.

The fallacy used to be that he lived in the sky, thanks to science, today we all know better. The goal post has now been shifted to him being outside of space. What then does that make the story of the Tower of Babel? Another fallacy?

Ethernal nothingness? This is new to me! Now basic questions! When do u say "there is nothing"? Perhaps your answer will suffice to bury that one!
Concerning God living in the skies, its very amusing, I don't think I have read any Christian literature that says God lives in the sky above us, and that where He lives is Physical that we can see it with our eyes! wouldn't that mean God isn't a spirit? (Considering that Christians believe that God is a Spirit, how come they will believe He lives in the sky which is Physical as we can see) and again who says God is nothingness? I bet if u look at ur table atimes u myt say "there is nothing on it --- despite the microscopic organisms"....does it mean then that watever we can't see with out eyes and technology is "nothing"? Not being able to interact with the Spiritual world doesn't mean it doesn't exist! Since even science explains that humans with the unaided eye can't even see infrared, so its much of a mystery how much things with all our technology that we still can't see today! Nobody believes God popped out of nowhere - that's an idea that carries the theme of "time" which even scientists know its a created dimension too (time is d fourth dimension)! wen we say God is eternal it simply means He has been there for as long as ur mind can imagine, and if he created the world (as time is a created dimension too), it means God lived outside of time!!! If no time at all, wudnt dat be "timelessness" hence eternal?

As for the story of the tower of Babel, a simple study of history will show that the towers were not literally built to reach heaven, tho it myt be the tallest buildings seen by those people and from which their gods cud see and monitor them! Its not a "fallacy". Study of extrabiblical sources sheds more light on the structures!

zeemahn:
But I thought the earth was about 6000 years old. And in the bible, the earth and the universe were created within the same period of time. But this article is talking in billions of years.

And...which of the about 6000 gods do you think created the world?

Was it really necessary to create? especially when things have a potential of going wrong...I will prefer not to exist than to exist and suffer.

I have spoken (or typed ) my mind.

Educate me.

I usually believe atheists read more about science? How come u ddnt even know that the Biblical days of Creation amounts to the exact age of the universe as proposed by Science wen factors such as the expansion constant of our universe and time is concerned? Or don't u know that time reads differently depending on what part of the Universe you are? The only thing u can get that is about 6000 years from the Bible is d Creation of Man! Bearing in mind dat "Adam" was even created before "Eve" and that the geneology is done using "generations" which actually isn't a rigid time event!? Science at this stage in man's history shows that the universe had been created/directed even from the Big-Bang(or name it wat u will) --- Intelligent Design can't even be overlooked anymore!

Jadonjack:
My mission opening this thread actually is neither to criticise anybody nor point out flaws in any xtians, as a matter of fact, most of my friends are xtians,buh dere are some points it can't be helped.

If you are a principled man, you shld have respect for your words i.e your YES, YES! And your NO, NO!, buh it sms d opposite is the case in your god.

Anywaiz, lemme just avoid complications. When you say fire,stove and water, pls shed more lite so as not to misquote you

exactly my thought wen I first commented here! Your reason for creating the thread isn't at all about your "father's" well being or recovery, its abt "proving non existence of god(s)"....its quite clear to see! Well I hope God fulfils the purpose of the thread --- and by the way, ur personal experience in relation to some other entity doesn't at all define that entity (its simply ur experience) --- get the fact right

Now if u claimed god is non existent how den can u claim that our God "isn't principled" --- did he say a "NO" wen He meant "YES"? It wud seem u know He exists in some way just enough to be "unprincipled"

For ages its been my problem with people that claim God doesn't exist! Why don't u just forget it n stop arguing----why waste time on the issue!

well if anyone will ask me, why did u started attending this new Church of yours, I'd tell that person that....

My Mum was seriously ill, we feared she z gonna die, its not natural but spiritual, we got introduced to this Church by her colleague, she met the pastor, whom told her that its not a physical illness (she knew this already), he told her to go and first pray for the forgiveness of sins, after which she praise God, den on her own chosen number of days, pray at set times and specifically set "three seats" for God the Father, Son and HolySpirit, and then demand for the course of action she wants on her health and enemies

After all dis, its so much got physical that we knew whom the attackers are, and wen dey planned stage 2 which wud involve my Dad, one of these evil doers died and dats d last of their attacks!
So if u say God isn't answering ur prayers etc...just remember "shall two walk together unless they agree?"

vincent10:
According to Catholic doctrine, Mary was
assumed into heaven and is with Jesus Christ ,
her divine Son and is represented in the Book
of Revelation (chapter 11:19–12:6) as the
woman clothed with the sun who gives birth
to Christ.

The woman clothed with the Sun isn't "Mary" but "Israel" --- if u claim its "Mary", wat den does the 12 stars stands for
Let's start from there first

What am about to type may seem as an insult but

This your "Father" will probably not survive it, not that God doesn't exist or He is impotent of such a feat, or He doesn't answer prayers, but He can't be conditioned by such an insignificant "mind" and reason like dis....if ur Father is a devoted Christian, I believe that is enough for God...since God's presence is much more liberating that this earthly existence! say farewell to ur "Father". May God welcome his soul