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ChickRockz: The only reason I agree with is that Facebook is boring..I could give 9 reasons why the logic used in this post is faulty...As for feeling bad about yourself when using Facebook,I disagree with that.I think many people on Twitter are snobs and if you don't fit into their standard you aren't worth their time..Facebook to me is where everyone can relate equally..When you are snubbed and insulted by people like Wizkid,Rihanna and Psquare,why wouldn't you feel bad about yourself? For those who are feeling bad because their Exes seem happier without them,Don't you know what the block button is for?..When you block someone on Facebook the person won't even know about it...so what's your stress? You don't even have to update your relationship status if you don't want to

lolzzz...longtime girl, how u been? dnt quit facebook yet, cos am just rooting for ur acct there, or u'd help wit that?

chamboy: pls I meant New testament

I dnt think u shld expect an answer from dt guy, he will tap dance d issue like his other friend who kept telling me to check abt Melchizedek in Hebrews, wen I simply asked him to show me wea d Apostles either paid tithes or received tithes

SimplySEA: stop being obstinate. jus read the effing passage objectively.......! And still want to refer u to my first post on this subject. Good morning

will u quit tap dancing?? Whom did d Apostles pay tithes to and did dey collect tithes from anyone? Where is it documented that Christians-followers of christ have to pay tithe??! Just answer it and stop tap dancing d whole issue!

SimplySEA: I no your type bro...... If u check my last post I didn't mention anything quote of myn from old testament aside the man's Malachi...! jus read the Hebrew passage and u'd see what I mean. pls be objective....! thanx......!

u mean I am the type dat gets u fretting? Well show me whom the Apostles paid tithes or where dey collected tithe and wen its been taught in the new testament! Engage meaningfully and don't dodge. Stay cool!

date1816: I really pity your poor soul, invoking curses on your Creator, just because you chose to be a Kafir. You will make full explanation to the Angels upon your death.

pls jor, biko, if anything at all, Allah(if the word simply means god or the proper name of islamic deity at all) of the quran is nothing but a demon, he is not my creator nor does his angels in his pornographic aljana wea muhammed and his criminal friends seek to deflower houris can ask me anything, infact I will judge allah and his other demons according to the Bible, so get lost from her u whimp! Calling me a Kafir (infidel)...well I will always be a kafir(and even proud) to the Glory of Jesus Christ our Lord and yours! Amen!!!! Kafir and Proud

SimplySEA: Don't say what u don't know....... No doctrine of tithe yes but Christ is a High Priest in the order of Melchizedek Heb 7:1-10. pls read this. This is what the man of God doesn't know about. When was tithing first mention in the bible....? Who gave the first tithe and to whom was it given to...?

I'm not a serious church goer , cos of my work, but from his 1st and second paragraph, I saw the limitations to his msg. I also saw his interpretation of mal 3: 10-16, and it's glaring that he was so in haste to cast shadows on Oyedepoo that he hurriedly attributed the msg to the levites, when of course God's msg was for the descendants of Jacob evident if u start reading verse. (mal 3 : 6). My advice is be careful how u digest what u read . Not all doctors are doctors. Even some cleaners of hospitals are called doctors in their localities jus cos they have some paracetamol available. There are men of God and there are "Men of God".

broda pls don't mock urself, Abraham paid tithe to Melchizedek whom is the King o Salem(peace), what does dis prove? I asked u to show if this tithing doctrine was from Jesus himself or the apostles and you are here talkin abt the old testament? Did u know Abraham married his sister Sarah? Would u marry ur sister?! I know u r not a serious church goer nor a serious Christian for that matter. Am yet to receive a coherent response from u addressing the issue of tithing under the "new covenant-new testament----Christianity"

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u just made a fundamental error, the Christianity in the Bible of the Apostles and even Jesus, doesn't have a "tithe" doctrine to begin with. Give is give, not even necessarily to pastors, u cud even buy wat d church needs, or help poor people, witout ever giving money(cash, cheques etc) out.

prettyboi1989: i cud tell from d expressions m seeing here 90pcnt or ppl commentn here are eida poor, ignorant fellows or stark illiterates. by dia fruits u shall know dem. i guess its high time we stop arguing with dese set of persons. cos if a normal man starts fyting wit a mad man it will be hard to tell whoz sane amongst dem

dude, why don't engage in a meaningful way instead of assuming being poor, ignorant or stark illitrates makes people unworthy of examining a claim! Engage meaningfully

mencade5: i aslo heard oyedepo is grooming his son to take over leadership from him after he retired. Why cant he handover to other experience pastor in his church.

Na family business be this oooooo

the dude get sense na, he doesn't have branches, so dat small pastors don't outwitt him in d process. His son will be elisha na, same goodwill in father and son... Hahahahahaha!!!

ayoJ21: so who is more foolish..dunno y u must condemn to make a living in ur whole life. If u think u ar right,its normal some people will prove u wrong..which means no one is perfect. And hear dis am not in either Pastor Oyedepo's or Amoda's side
I hate people of immense stupidity quoting my post.dont do it again.

here is an even more foolish response from u, first did u just say I make a living out of condemnation? If so, u must be a living proof of foolishness! Secondly, did I say anyone shldnt prove me wrong? And did u even try to prove me wrong? Let me guess, u can't do it, ryt? And am nt siding either Oyedepo or Amoda, just stating a Biblical fact, if u hv issues, face the Bible not me. Lastly u dnt want me to quote u again, why? Oh, I guess I exposed ur smelly comment! Next time, u shld really consult d little brain God gave u to interact wit others

layez: who gave the testimony that tis not?? Did satan tell u dis? My point is all ur blabbing no gt meaning

this is exactly why its not fruitful discussing wit zombies!

ayoJ21: Hey! Pastor Amoda, why shud u fault anybody's teaching.. Jus do ur own teachin and stop unnecessary condemnation.
We all kno many of u ave forgotten d primary assignment which is to win souls by preaching d Gospel buh what will see allover now is preaching on ow to get rich quickly and never come down again as if u ar Economics lecturers. Peace out. END TIME SIGNALS!

oh foolish one, do u even know abt the Bible? What happened btw Peter and Paul? Did Paul not condemn Peter on his withdrawal from the gentiles due to the jews? It seems brainwashing has worked well on u! If we cnt condemn at all, why do u condemn idolators or traditionalists? I wonder if some people think before they spill d shit in their minds

chamboy: Christianity in Nigeria have lost it, Imagine VIP sessions and Bouncers in Church.

abi oh, Pastors get body guard, suddenly Jesus no fit protect dem anymore (well it is to be expected from thieves)

layez: Curse men of God and be Cursed!!! Irrespective of the criticism,he will 4evaly be my Mentor!

who gave the testimony that he is a man of God? Did God tell u dis? And wats ur point exactly? Cos even sinners have mentors.

date1816: 9:30 The Jews say, “Ezra is the son of Allah “; and the Christians say, “The Messiah is the son of Allah .” That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
9:31 They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah , and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.
9:32 They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah refuses except to perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it.
9:33 It is He who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although they who associate others with Allah dislike it.
9:34 O you who have believed, indeed many of the Pastors and the Bishops devour the wealth of people unjustly and avert [them] from the way of Allah . And those who hoard gold and silver and spend it not in the way of Allah – give them tidings of a painful punishment.
9:35 The Day when it will be heated in the fire of Hell and seared therewith will be their foreheads, their flanks, and their backs, [it will be said], “This is what you hoarded for yourselves, so taste what you used to hoard.”

who is dis fool hellbent on exposing allah as muhammed's ignorance? Wen did the jews ever called Ezra d Son of God? And wen have Christians ever instituted Mary as Lord and part of the Trinity? Here u show why u muslims hv to redefine d Christian faith to hide d ignorance of allah, wen did we associate anything or anyone with God (if allah is god at all)? Haven't Christians been proclaiming One God since inception? Who is dis foolish and idiotic allah? Dude go somewea else to display ignorance of allah! Ur foolish god can't even do mathematics (if u doubt check d inheritance law in the quran and do d maths urself)

Suffice it to say is dat any form of Tithe collection by the church is a fraud, its nt a teaching of the new testament, if anyone disagrees, let them show it here...but I assure u, no Apostle nor even Jesus collected tithes from followers, but many so professed christians are so dumb that they dnt even know the truth,

The reason God instituted Tithes in the old testament was for the new born israelite state so that the temple can thrive, Christians are exhorted by Christ to give freely and abundantly and not to be first obligated to give. So its a shame that many christians don't give and many pastors have resorted to lies and fabrication to make money out of them.

If its truly tithe the likes of pastor oyedepo and d rests wants, den dey ought to make it compulsory that the members bring 10% of every thing they posses.

But I dnt see anyone reasoning well tho' wen it comes to their favourite fraudsters (pastors)...

I got a friend arguing that every Christian/believer has his or her own prophet and must seek the prophet, just anoda absurd arguement. It wud seem Jesus' statement of the believer asking and receiving hinges on prophet's instructions. And they foolishly point me to Bishop Oyedepo's book --- riding on prophetic wings...as if I hold him as authoritative over what the Bible has to say.

A true believer in Christ needs no prophet, as He or She is being led by "the HolySpirit". Jesus is not hidden from the believers. He is manifest and knows all things, ask Him cos he doesn't cast His own away.

Don Demu: Pls i got this samsung galaxy s4 this morning, not brand new but "London-used". The issue i have is the phone is stocked on 2G as when i go to Settings>>mobile-networks, it will not change from "gsm only" to WCDMA or GSM/WCDMA(auto). Kindly assist me cos i have been going up and down google, android forums, youtube etc;and solution that seems to work for others refused to work on mine. I had to fall back on tethering wifi from my galaxy tab just so i can open a web page on the Galaxy S4 with no High BP. I am using Airtel on it and the sim seem to have 3G provisioning cos i tried on two other devices and the "H" sign with arrows pointing up and down was on the screen and the speed was fast. Kindly assist me pls before you guys mourn another nairalander (though some who see me as a menace will be happy if i Should "Proof vemuz SOB" ). Counting on you friends

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Dnaz: God forgive me but the truth must be told. Christianity is a confused religion

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While Jesus was saying these things, one of the women in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, "Blessed is the womb that bore You and the breasts at which You nursed." But He said, "ON THE CONTRARY, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it." (Luke 11:27-28)

so Jesus wasn't stamping "blessed" on Mary according to dis verse?!
Catholics!

clefstone: we gave u d xmas u celebrated today

Really Well wat if I told u I dnt celebrate xmas? How much more errors can u make? And again, what's xmas abt? If its d "birth of Jesus Christ", den I celebrate it everyday. Try claiming u were d one who brought Jesus from Heaven!
I shake my head for u

POPE II: You are being used by Satan

Hey there! I have heard dat before, seen it before...even the Jews levelled dis kind of arguement against Christ!
So stop repeating a worn off phrase

Annaka: guy na catholic kil any of ur family member or dem collect ur church members because u neva remove d log 4rm una church eyes finish o

Ehm ehm! Am beginning to see that u r caught up in this fantasy of urs! Which "log"? Why dnt u point dem out

Well am nt against catholic killing or not, but since u admit u r killers! Well history nodds a "yes" too

clefstone: You just pick one of the anti-catholic verses you were taught nd think u hv made an unanswerable observation. Unfortunately, like i wrote b4, u picked d wrong Catholic. Heretics hv raised these points in d past and hv been shamed by d answers of saints.
Now to ur question, in many examples from scriptures, d words before nd until do not signify wht happened afterwards; for that point is left indefinite, but only what was done before or not done. Thus, wen it is said, sit down at my right hand until i make thine enemies my footstool, by no means signifies that after d subjection of his enemies, d son of God is no longer to sit at d right hand of his father. In common conversation, when we say that a man died before he reached his 3oth year, we do not mean that he afterward attained it.

Oh come on! U can do better dan dis! I haven't been taught to be anti catholic, I read the Bible and came across verses that expose ur lies! And if ur so called "saints" hv refuted dis "anti catholic" verse, why dnt u share it wit us Instead of just brushing it aside

Oh my God, dude just came with a lame excuse! Firstly u said and I quote

"sit down at my right hand until i make thine enemies my footstool, by no means signifies that after d subjection of his enemies, d son of God is no longer to sit at d right hand of his father."

Wow! How much more eisegesis can u do?
Well it doesn't mean the Son would no longer sit on His Father's right hand, but it means He can now rule supreme over His enemies, but He should wait for a moment till His enemies are subdued. moreover this is in the future not d past! it has no connection to what we discussin Bro...u hv to do better dan dis

Again u typed and I quote

"In common conversation, when we say that a man died before he reached his 3oth year, we do not mean that he afterward attained it."

I wonder what dis example has to do with d verse? Well it showed us what happened to d man! And again u seem to show u lack understanding of the English language! Again dis is in the past (notice the tense is in the past)....showed what happened!

Now let me quote the verse again!
Matthew 1:24-25

24 When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him: he took his wife, 25 but knew her not until she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus.

The verse is reporting what happened in the past! Joseph ddnt have intercouse with Mary, until she had birthed our Lord Jesus Christ! Perhaps u want examples of the meaning of the word "knew" in the use of context here! Example is

Genesis 4:1-2

1 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, saying, "I have gotten a man with the help of the Lord."2 And again, she bore his brother Abel. Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, and Cain a worker of the ground.

It says Adam knew his wife and dis resulted in a child --- meaning intercourse
And again she bore Abel... --- intercourse

Genesis 4:25

25 And Adam knew his wife again, and she bore a son and called his name Seth, for she said, "God has appointed for me another offspring instead of Abel, for Cain killed him."

And again had another son by intercourse! --- "knew his wife"

Wonderful isn't it? They all reported the past, just as Matthew did, but the Psalm u quoted is talking about the future!!! and doesn't even parallel the verse we are discussing!

U can do better dan ur "saints" u relying on! Read ur Bible

clefstone: Your reading skill is faulty. From d scripture above, the other offspring of the woman r those who keep the commandment of God nd hold to d testimony of Jesus. Mary as the new Eve becomes the Mother of God's people. The passage doesnt imply that d offspring of the woman r her biologicaal children, hence d description of wht it means here by d other offspring of d woman. However, d son of the woman was born physically by d woman.
Also, the passage states tht the woman is crowned with twelve stars, how does that imply that Mary birthed d twelve tribes of israel? Crown here is used to symbolize glory, majesty over Israel.
Pls try to improve on ur reading skillz

Urs is the one dat z faulty! That verse separates the offspring from those who kept the Testimony of Jesus Christ... Moreover the Angel are portrayed as keeping the testimony of Jesus in revelations and d Dragon also fought dem, are they also the offspring of the woman.....dude improve on reading n findin what the Bible teaches not what u r being told to just nodd yes to!

The Woman in Revelations 12 is Israel...if u say no! Then explain the 12 stars! If u claim its d disciples, den are u sayin that Jesus' disciples were present before he was born! Give proof for ur eisegesis

Again like I said, its only wen u make the woman in d verse to be Mary, that the crown of 12 stars doesn't make sense! Ur explanation creates the fault, not mine! So solve it!

When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the
angel of the Lord commanded him: he took his
wife, but knew her not until she had given birth
to a son. And he called his name Jesus. Matthew
1:24-25 ESV
Any catholic here to tell us what dis verse is
saying?

Perhaps u missed my post that u shld explain dis to us! Tell us what Matthew was talkin about here

Annaka: mr bible was Jesus a nairalander? since evry of ur tin must be in the bible

Miss catholic...Jesus being a nairalander or not; u shld ask Mary! If everythin must nt be in d Bible, den y else do we have to have a stopping point? Like ur traditions, why dnt we go beyond dat, perhaps also look into d quran, book of mormons, jehovah witnesses, hindu etc to get doctrines too?!

Like I said, ur church tradition negates a lot of Biblical truths! So we have rejected them!

clefstone: He cursed 'The Woman' and and also promised to raise through her the offspring that will crush d head of d serpent. The emphasis here is 'the woman' the same woman of Revelation 12 who is crowned with 12 stars representing d 12 tribes of Isreal, the same woman is in labour(d curse, Rev 3:16) and about to give birth to a son who will rule wit an iron rod(the promise of d redemptor, Rev 3:15). Who else is this woman but Mary who Jesus mysteriously kept calling woman. Note at the end of Rev 12 how the rest of the offspring of the woman is said to be those that do d will of God. We the faithfuls r therefore children of d woman, we therefore rightly call the Madonna mother of the Church. Think think think b4 u talk

Oh my God...how unscholarly and unhistorical can u be? So the woman of revelations 12 is now Mary again? Not Israel herself? Ok answer me this. Did Mary birthed d 12 tribes of Israel?

And how z dat in connection to the curse in Genesis 3 I said tell us wen d curse started to take effect! Stop dis eisegesis of the Bible.

Again Rev 12:17

17 Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea.

So she had other offsprings! Do u agree Mary had other offsprings

POPE II: pathetic . More like I'm afraid, I'm a fcking coward who spends his time in attacking God's church because I know they are,peaceful and I'm trying hard to stay relevant. Oya go convert muslims like catholic did and keep doing, go and win souls the way we do at least they will embrace Christ ,besides I didn't ask you to make them join Catholicism let them join your church or you are afraid to name your church?

Yeah yeah! Peaceful...tell us about their peace wen dey went on crusade? and against the Reformers? Well u hv yet assumed its a church of God...we have many of these churches claiming God's name too...do u subscribe to all of dem?...and how many muslims have u converted, let us know

Well now u assume I want people in "my church". Am no Pastor and yes I don't do "churchianity". I convert people to Christianity - life in Christ and not to a building with a name called "...Church..."
I do Bible study with them and not church meetings! Its only wen they know the truth of the Bible dat dey can decide what z wrong to do and what z right to do. Just as it is wrong to believe in purgatory, indulgence n ur marian doctrines!
Dnt be naïve about my person and assume things!

Annaka: u r bin used o,y r u even here or dere is a place in d bible that says u must b a nairalander or social networkin is good ,since bible de tel u evrytin

Is dat ur explanation to d quoted verse?
Well am being used to show u the Biblical truth

POPE II: If it wasn't for the catholic warriors you would bend over and shake your azz in the air to pray . Ungrateful who are you trying to convert? The,people who gave you Christianity? The people who gave you the scriptures you are now trying to misinterpret ? The people who protected and keep protecting the Christendom? The biggest charity in the world? Who is this one ? Do you think you can succeed where Satan himself failed? Mind your business . Instead of converting pagans and muslims you are here throwing tantrums .olodo

Oh my! How unhistorical can u be? So now God is powerless at taking His own Words to the end of the earth? Infact the real truth is dat catholic and his soldiers insult the eminence of God over humans by carrying out the crusades!
I will give u dis credit as to ur catholicity, u think Christianity being to Africa is of catholic doin? Dude, christianity is in africa in NT days! Have u forgotten the eunuch which is ethiopian in the book of Acts?? Only God is our helper, not ur filthy soldiers who raped their victims!

I won't insult u but tell u d truth!

POPE II: see your life ? There are 1billon muslims who are yet to embrace Christ as their savior/God and you are here attacking fellow Christians
Besides our own scriptures mention oral traditions and the bible can't contain the whole message of God, there is more than what you can see.

And wen dey wanna convert, it wudnt be nice to join another party that will teach dem and guide then to eternity in hell... Now that's my concern