₦airaland Forum

WORDWORLD:
You have ignored my polite question. How poor is your father? Delivar, the problem is not population, there is more than enough resources for the whole of mankind. The problem is GREED.

So you think my father has to be poor for me to create a thread like this to enlighten people about the consequences of bringing in kids into the world without having the means to secure their future? I feel bad for the multitude of young people out there who are stranded and trying to survive. That's why I created the thread.

WORDWORLD:
"THEY WHO LACK TALENT EXPECT THINGS TO HAPPEN WITHOUT EFFORT. THEY ASCRIBE FAILURE TO A LACK OF INSPIRATION OR ABILITY, OR TO MISFORTUNE, RATHER THAN TO INSUFFICIENT APPLICATION. AT THE CORE OF EVERY TRUE TALENT THERE IS AN AWARENESS OF THE DIFFICULTIES INHERENT IN ANY ACHIEVEMENT, AND THE CONFIDENCE THAT BY PERSISTENCE AND PATIENCE SOMETHING WORTHWHILE WILL BE REALIZED. THUS TALENT IS A SPECIES OF VIGOR" (Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition)

My dear brother, don't rely on your father's riches. Struggle to have your's too. You are full of PESSIMISM.

If I may ask and very politely how poor is your father?

You speaking of talent, talent, talent. Do you know how millions who can sing in Nigeria for example? How much have they made from the talent? They have not made anything significant because they are just so many and more than needed. Just trim down the population by recommending only those with the financial power to properly care for new human beings to have babies.

lovelybugs:
I don't fully agree. Instead of no children why not one or two? You'll see people who can nearly feed themselves having 7 children's while the rich folks have only two. Then again everyone has a right to reproduce.

I'll edit this later!

Anyone can have kids BUT make sure you have the finances to care for them and ensure they wouldn't get frustrated trying to make a living in future. If the wealth isn't there then just forget it. That's the key message.

WORDWORLD:
Bro are you ready to learn a skill?! WHAT SKILL DO YOU HAVE APART FROM PAPER WORK? I mean craft.

Are you aware skills can be overcrowded such that competition gets so intense and those practicing the skill gets little or no patronage? For instance when you visit Fiverr there lots of people there who advertise their skills and no one patronizes them. If you think "skills" is the ultimate answer then you need to wake up. Many people with skills still struggle. Therefore in this critical times only couples with the financial power to guarantee a future for their kids should have children to save us from having kids growing up to become frustrated adults. We are beginning to have too many unnecessary humans out there.

tayo60:
Can't blame you OP because of your poverty level. U are using Linda Ikeji's baby birth and d purchase of d expensive car for her child as a yardstick before producing baby in life. See your mumu life! Were your parents rich before given birth to you? Remain single till eternity until money comes. Inferiority complex dey worry you OP.

I don't even follow that news so you brought it up yourself. If you are watching events very closely you realize the future of the country doesn't look bright to accommodate too many humans. Times are changing. Our parents having kids with little income in the past and their kids ended up succeeding in life doesn't mean it will easily work out that way in the present day. The negative consequences of a rising population is gradually creeping in with few people realizing it. I am only having pity for the kids born today by couples who are not very financially strong to secure a future for them against all odds.

Here is the emphasis of all you wrote:

WORDWORLD:
The blame game is mostly played by people who are LAZY and are NOT READY TO GROW.
They blame their parents, the blame Nigeria and e.t.c. e.t.c.

So you are saying the high unemployment rate in the country is entirely about laziness? If I may ask you, have you ever attended a job interview or test to find out a crowd of job seekers struggling for a few available slots? Does that look like laziness to you? When you are willing to work but there is no suitable place willing to employ you and you have no financial assistance to help you follow the entrepreneurship route what other options do you have to help yourself? It would have been better you weren't born. No matter how much you deny it, many people shouldn't have been born.

TheOdd1sOut:
are your parents rich Maybe not.

not everyone thinks like you.

the poor man reproduces faster than the rich man.

maybe you didn't grow up around here

skedman:
But your parent were not rich yet they ensure you never lack however they gave birth to a mumu

You should guys should think and digest the message properly before commenting. Our parents were not rich but look at where it has gotten us today. A lot of young people are jobless and frustrated. They currently have no means to raise funds and establish things for themselves. If our parents were rich these young jobless people would have inherited the riches to help themselves.

NASTYNASOSO:
HMMMMMMMMMMM

THIS IS JUST A STUPID LAY BACK POST FROM ONE, I CAN READ AND WRITE ILLITERATE.
MR MAN WHAT HAS GOVERNANCE GOT TO DO WITH EDUCATION.
KEEP DECEIVING YOURSELF.SOON YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHY A PROF OF POLITICAL SCIENCE IS NOT THE PRESIDO.
LEADERS ARE BORN.

If you are asking that ridiculous question you can as well vote for a street agbero as president since education has nothing to do with governance. I hate it when dull people quote me with dumb comments.

I am not trying to be mischievous but I just felt like sharing my thoughts which I believe can still save many of us yet unmarried and without kids from future pain and discomfort. I had to post this here because I believe having children all starts from romance. The family section involves those who have already committed the "crime" so there is no point sharing this thread with them. Considering the situation of today's Nigerian world in particular, I think I would have to candidly advice anyone who isn't extremely financially strong to desist from having children. You may have little money at the moment which you will think may be sufficient enough to feed a child and enroll him or her into some cheap schools out there, but what if the kid grows up and he or she can't find a job and you also don't have the finances to support him or her out of unemployment? A lot of young people in Nigeria are currently stuck and frustrated at this stage and I feel it would get worse as the population keeps increasing due to an unchecked birthrate. I know the poor parents of these frustrated young people also feel the pain of giving birth to children who grew up to be frustrated adults without a bright future ahead. They would have saved themselves this pain by not getting married and having kids at all and rather saved all the money to take care of themselves and live more comfortably. I know it's true that situations can change and you can start small and make it big in future but this is not guaranteed and easy as it seems. The probability of a poor man or woman starting a family and getting rich in future is still slim. Your financial situation might improve a bit but it may still not be sufficient enough to guarantee a bright future for the kids in an event they couldn't gain any sufficient employment. This growing issue of jobless frustrated young people wouldn't have been a problem if their parents were rich enough to secure their future financially to make them independent even if the jobs are not there. I know wealth can disappear, but it's harder to lose wealth than a poor man or woman earning wealth.

Please it's not a must to get married and have children. There is already enough kids in existence who need care and will care for the aging population in return. You can as well invest in one of them. There is no point bringing another batch of kids into the world who will end up being frustrated jobless adults and having no financial support to help themselves into adulthood and independence. If you are a lady it's time to get a thick skin and ignore those stupid opinion that a lady is nothing without a man and kids. if you are not rich or you can't find a rich man to marry don't manage to bring any kids to the world or you will regret seeing your kid grow up frustrated and probably committing suicide which makes the essence of having kids useless. You must not carry your own baby. Your comfort should come first. If you are man and you ain't rich or can't find a rich woman to marry to fully support your upcoming kids to independence just forget it too. Maybe when the population goes low that we start experiencing some human shortage it wouldn't matter anymore. Instead of bringing kids to the world to grow up frustrated both sexes should equip themselves with contraceptives and stick to dating and still enjoy companionship. Dating without riches is perfectly fine. Those young girls and guys who think there must be riches before dating will eventually come to their senses when they face reality.

SternProphet:
What modern mindset 4ubbish. We had gangsters, militants, treasury looters, cultists and godfathers in PDP. They were looting Nigeria dry. We changed it.

You changed what? really? Is it the same gangsters, militants, treasury looters, cultists and godfathers in PDP that are now in APC? And what makes you think there is no looting actually going on as we speak?

There is no modern mindset in the principles of leadership. A leader is a leader. You have principles, vision, know where you are going and people will follow you. There is no modernity in looting your country to keep the money in the country that formerly colonalised you.

So you mean the mindset, beliefs or orientation of a person doesn't matter to be a leader? And who says looting is modernity?

Modern life is freedom to develop your potentials, progressivism, social conscience, paying your taxes and seeing the results.
However, if 70% of your country is poor, you dont cowardly pretend that the poverty was not there and share money to idle rich who buy private jets dont put the money in productive ventures and dont pay taxes. That is cluelessness.

All you wrote up there is simply corroborating what this thread is all about. Nigerians need to be educated and when the education is there our problems will go away.

This was where we missed it. Hopefully, Buhari/Osinbajo will rectify things with investment in infrastructure and SIP.

They were elected almost 4 years ago and you still say "Hopefully", "will rectify"?

The US has the most ignorant citizens about the global world around them. Iran is ruled by Mullahs (Sharia people) but is 98% literate and very highly educated. Saudi Arabia is very rich but it's citizens don't work.

Being ignorant and not abreast of happenings around the world is different from having a modern mindset and understanding of life. Someone can be less informed but able to make good judgments about life. It is this ability to make good judgments about life that is key and majority of Nigerians lack it. It isn't about literacy so forget about Iran. You simply don't understand what the this thread is about.

Forget corruption and bad leaders, in my opinion I believe the biggest source of Nigeria's problem is simply lack of education and enlightenment among the masses. I would roughly say 90% of Nigerians are not educated. The education I am referring to here is not just having about school degrees but also having a modern mindset of life that can generate a modern society. About 80% of Nigerians having school degrees are still not educated cos they lack this modern mindset of life. If 90% of Nigerians in the north, south, east and west were all truly educated it means 90% of those seeking political positions will be potential good leaders and they will definitely be voted in by 90% of the educated masses. When we have truly educated people occupying every public office from top to bottom that's when we will start having good governance and there will be no such thing as corruption. If 90% of Nigerians were educated someone like Buhari can NEVER be elected. There would be no such things as tribalism, IPOB or Boko Haram. I think it's high time we start making serious efforts to educate the masses cos that's the only thing I feel will have a permanent impact in modernizing the country. There has to be a revolution of educating the masses by modernizing their mindset. We need to invent means to ensure the masses are getting their mindset modernized. Every other thing we are doing at the moment like screaming PVC, APC and PDP wouldn't yield any significant results that would see us progressing.

Wilfredpat22:
It's funny how most ladies out there uses 16 digits passwords with a mixture of letters, numbers and symbols to lock their phones while the password to unlock their respective legs is "swipe to open"

Why the focus on ladies? Why shouldn't men lock up too? If you expect only women to lock up while men remain loose it's never going to work out well. That will only increase rape incidents. It would be better to leave women stay lose and ask men to lock up or ask both sexes to lock up.

maureensylvia:
LOOKS GAYISH AND WIZKIDISH

Everything na gay to you people. Very soon rubbing cream will become gay to you people.

Food comes first and more important than anything.

Y

englishmart:
Just like that?

What else is left? What exactly should I do?

Dzes:
You so funny, no measures I didn't take Bro

It's unfortunate you were scammed but there are still successful stories out there about successful business partnerships. I fully understand your situation. It's just like when a lady's heart is broken she begins to say all men are scum. In a situation like this you shouldn't give anyone your money. The business expenses should be paid by you and not sending the money to anyone to do it. You should also be within the area where the business takes place.

Vested:
OP, are you an employee somewhere at the moment?
If so, do not listen to all these stories of ideas and all.
I repeat, do not listen to all these stories here. Just as Dzes said, I was burnt by usual idea-peddling conmen on Nairaland.
I'll advise you to keep your job (if employed) and find out whatever it is , anything , you have a passion to do. Anything that doesn't feel like work when you do it. It has to be a saleable asset or venture that has a product or service to sell. Once you get an idea of what it is, gradually start committing a bit of your time and money to it. If it will require some training , go ahead and acquire it. While you're doing all these things, do not quit your job yet. Only quit your job when it begins to yield two times what you earn at your place of work , and that should be after you've gone through mistakes and failures while pursuing your business of choice. Do not cry over the mistakes. That's how you learn in the world of business. That's the only way you can succeed in the long run.

This is my advice.
A business venture isn't the secret to wealth. You are.
Don't buy the idea that there is an eldorado business waiting for you to come reap. You are the business and the investment. Invest in yourself first.

Those are my two cups of beans. Shikena...

It's a pity you were scammed. The fact that you were scammed doesn't mean we should stop searching for opportunities. It's just like deciding to stop sleeping because some people die in their sleep. Every business venture is a risk. If we keep harbouring these fears then we will keep missing big opportunities. A lot of wealthy businessmen took the risk and succeeded. The keyword is to be very CAREFUL and have a backup plan. You can even lose your job. So what happens when you lose your job and can't find another? Of course taking the business risk becomes the next option. For you to have a viable successful business you will need people to work with. So we can't escape the risk.

Seniorcitizen:
am interested.... contact me on kenniesken@gmail.com

Do you live in Lagos?

remele2:
No mail was received

I actually sent something. Anyway, may I know where you reside? That's the first important question because we will have to meet physically to discuss things to prove identity and authenticity of intentions. If you are not comfortable disclosing your location here you may reply so I can provide my WhatsApp number.

Dzes:
Be careful here, most people looking for partnership on nairaland are scammers, do business with anyone here at your own risk. I will advise you to look for business developer else where, trusted people and avoid nairaland things. Am a victim and still suffering from my huge lost

I think you have to blame yourself for being scammed and not "most people" on Nairaland. You don't just deal with people anyhow without taking certain strict measures.

remele2:
Thanks Bro,
Time to Run..... Am running awayyyyyyu from troubles in my life am running away

I have sent you a mail. There is nothing wrong searching for opportunities this way BUT you only have to be CAREFUL and thats the keyword. That still still doesn't mean nothing good can come out from here.
If you stick to certain precautionary measures you will have nothing to worry about.

remele2:
Hello house, i have a sleeping 1m, pls what business can i do with it.

I have a fresh idea which requires only a capital of ₦200,000. I would like to know if you you are interested in business partnership so I can drop my contact details and we discuss about it.

ladyF:
You have money o.

Baba God, pick up my call...

All the bitcoins you have been selling since 1000BC money no dey enter?

Kimsokrates:
There is nothing wrong in having as many children as you want as long as you have the resources to take care of them.

It's one thing taking care of your kids and another thing when they try to venture out on their own to take care of themselves which is the harder part. The world is now overpopulated and younger ones are finding it more difficult being independent.

Blakjewelry:
the fg it doesn't matter who is in office. the president is just the head whatever he does he did it on behalf of the federation

And you think it will change anything and make Igbos forget Biafra?

Blakjewelry:
reading Achebe's book gave me another another of pre civil war Nigeria, I think first and foremost Nigeria needs to apologize to the igbos

Who is supposed to do the apology?