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lanas:
Shuttle up. Wailers like u will surely find excuse fr ur failures. I voted fr buhari. Am sure u don't have d qualifications I hav cos I don't reason d way u reason. If buhari cannot handle nigeria affairs tell me, is it atiku dat will do it? Wt his antecedents as vice president. Go n chek SW results, we voted wt choice as against blok votes we see in oda region. It shows dat integrity n goodwill pays more dan wealth n crooked ways!

Common lifeless buhari u no fit defeat abi.
A foreigner from sudan, ur Atikulooted no fit defeat.
Can u c una lives? I told u all on dis platform severally dat election is not won on social media or mere argument bt u refused to listen. Pls n pls n pls, NO ORUBEBEISM o.

Won ti njaporo. No more Atikulated Huh.�
Atigentle
Atiquiet
Atikulooted
Atirifigure.

Many tanx to CR7 kano, Leo messi frm Katsina, Cavani frm Kaduna. KKK

So you think you are educated just because of your school qualifications? Education is more about making good judgments and your mindset. The fact that you made a poor judgement by voting for Buhari actually makes you an uneducated person. Even Atiku doesn't deserve to be voted for. But he is still better than Buhari because he is more knowledgeable. The knowledge is more important before integrity. Integrity without knowledge of how to govern will make you incompetent. Knowledge without integrity can still make you discharge your duty well enough.

abbey621:
Stop spewing trash! America's population is 300 million but voting populace is about 235 million. Out of the 235 only about 60% actually voted. So only about 140 million people voted, if you think 3 million is an insignificant amount then you're nuts! Case in point Bush versus Gore year 2000 presidential election in which less than 20,000 votes decided the election. Moving on, I never said education does not matter, I only said it matters less when the people are suffering and hungry, this applies to all aspect of life. For example religion, who is likely to convince a homeless and hungry sinner to repent? A pastor that offers a warm meal and a place to stay while preaching the gospel or a pastor that just preaches the gospel? Yes Americans are more educated than Nigerians but still make the same stupid choices everyday, a large number still have drug and other addictions, a large number still kill themselves violently and people are still starving on the streets. If you think America is all about glamour everywhere then you're delusional. My Arnold and Trump reference is to show that when it comes to voting people will place their immediate physiological needs above common sense. It is why the Great philosopher Aristotle puts pathos(ability to persuade or emotional conviction) over logos(logical reasoning), I'm not just your average Nigerian abroad, I don't get my information from just CNN!

I erroneously summed up the voting population as 300 million. 3 million votes out of 140 million is till insignificant to prove that one candidate is truly better than the other or citizens made a bad decision by voting Trump who lost the popular vote. Obama defeated Mitt Romney with about 5 million popular votes in 2012 and Mitt Romney wasn't even such a bad choice. Mitt Romney would have probably been a better president than Obama. Nobody knows. Unless you are talking about 30 million votes upwards then I will take you serious as a significant margin.

You say education matters less when people are suffering and hungry? Now my question is, why would you allow yourself to suffer and get hungry to the point of getting desperate and doing stupid things? Only uneducated people fail to plan their lives appropriately to avoid getting hungry and desperate. If Nigerians were educated from the start they would have taken wise decisions many decades ago to avoid getting hungry and doing desperate things today. Have you now realized that educated comes first and is the foundation and key to a better life? Why allow yourself to get hungry in first place? Even when you are hungry you will still need to be educated to know how you can find your way out of your suffering. You are just not making any sense saying education matters less when people are hungry.

Americans make stupid choices but it is not very widespread as the case with Nigeria. That's the difference. The severe lack of education situation in Nigeria is very much worse and it makes their quality of life worse too. In order words, education reduces the severity and reach of the terrible decisions citizens make but it will not totally eliminate it.

Yoighaman:
There are white folks who cannot read and write English, they can only speak it..... sounds unbelievable but very true.

Reading and writing is not all what education is all about. Education also has to do with your ability to make good judgments and this is exactly the kind of education that many Nigerians lack which affects their quality of life. If Nigerians had this education both Buhari and Atiku wouldn't be anywhere near becoming president.

BabaO2:
Who told you you are educated?

Feel free to test whether I am educated or not.

abbey621:
If I were you I would just keep quiet! Reagan was a politician before becoming president. He was successful in some aspect but woeful in others, you can lookup Reaganomics.

So what is your problem here? I don't even yet understand why your brought up Arnold's issue in the first place. He was an entertainer and failed as governor and so what? Full time politicians fail too.

You watched the election but did you see the exit polls? Educated men and women voted overwhelmingly for Clinton. She actually secured more votes than Trump and if the U.S used the Nigerian system of voting, Clinton would be president so your analysis is faulty.

Trump got many votes from educated people as well. You can't tell me everyone who voted for Trump were uneducated. The difference in popular vote count was just about 3 million. Is that your definition of "overwhelming" in a country of over 300 million people? Besides what Americans call uneducated is not the same as the average uneducated man in Nigeria. Nigerian's kind of uneducated citizens is just terrible. Whether it is Clinton or Trump the fact remains that Americans are far more educated than Nigerians specifically by mindset and it reflects in their better quality of life. Lack of education is affecting Nigeria badly and you are busy trying to prove that education doesn't matter. Are you okay?

abbey621:
I hate when people argue blindly. Go and check the budget of California before Arnold and after, dude ran the state into insolvency. Trump and Buhari are around the same age, if we wanted to go by the educated electorate there is no way Trump would ever be president. Which again points to the fact that education matters less than other pressing needs. People where fed up of the establishments, things were not as rosy as the 90s hence why a clown like Trump triumphed over a seasoned politician like Clinton.

I don't understand the point you are trying to make with Arnold. Ronald Reagan was an actor before he became president and he performed well. Even the best candidates can fail in leadership so what's your point?

In my opinion Trump is actually better than Hillary Clinton and many Americans viewed Hillary as a dishonest woman. The only problem with Trump is just his behavior. Electing Trump was never as a result of Americans being uneducated because they knew what they wanted in Trump inspite of his behavior. I watched the debates and Trump made a better case.

Searching for a car when citizens are poor to afford it. Nigerians should be searching for educative books to improve their mindset instead.

abbey621:
You can't live in a more advanced nation than where I've been living for the past decade, so don't bother wasting your energy. Even as advanced as the U.S, they still suffer from uneven distribution of wealth, 1 in 5 American kids still suffer from hunger and many households find themselves homeless. The most educated societies are not necessarily the most peaceful. Ekiti people are more educated than 70% of the Southeastern or Southwestern states yet they suffer the same poverty rate or even worse. Alabama boast of the best medical facility in the U.S, they also have the best military program yet the sate is regarded as one of the most backward in the U.S. Finally an enlightened and educated society like that of the U.S voted in an actor Swarchenegger and an entertainer Donald Trump to lead a state and country respectively, if this is not the best example of educative people choosing to satisfy an immediate need instead of making logical sound decisions then I don't know what is.....lol

There is poverty everywhere including the U.S, but the level of poverty isn't that much in advanced nations to be a tool of destruction like what we have in Nigeria.

What's wrong voting in Arnold Swarchenegger?

And what's wrong voting in Donald Trump? The only issue with Donald Trump is just his behavior, apart from that he hasn't been bad on the job. Americans voted him to do a job and not to preach the gospel.

Using Arnold or Trump to drive your point is just a terrible example. It's is no way comparable to voting in Buhari as president. A man who obviously lacks the knowledge and physical fitness to rule a country.

olumide4christ:
Mind you, do you know that there is hunger and lack of education amongst citizens in the USA? Why do they still make good political choices?
Did you follow 2016 US election closely? Please make Una dey watch CNN, BBC, Aljazeera & co small small! You will surely learn more & be more exposed...or better still, travel to the West and see for yourself. Don't let our people over there make you think they're in heaven & you're in hell!

Of course I am fully aware there is still hunger in the U.S and Europe. But the difference is that it isn't as widespread and severe as what we have in Nigeria which becomes a tool of destruction.

hakku:
Integrity is one of d most important qualities to look out for. Saraki is knowledgeable and physically fit yet his own people disgraced him why? ... because he lacks integrity. If you have no integrity, start building one now. It will help you in future.

Knowledge is high priority before integrity. Integrity without knowledge is useless and futile. How do we even know Buhari has integrity? What's the evidence that shows that? Or is it just public pretense?

Akolawole:
In your thinking, people that voted Buhari are uneducated abi?

Buhari may not have mansions but he has integrity. That played a big role all his life

So in your opinion integrity is all it requires to be president even when the individual lacks knowledge and physical fittness?

abbey621:
Are you familiar with the saying, " Hungry man is an angry man"? Read throughout history, hungry people educated or not are more likely to behave reckless than well fed people. It's a classic tactic used by military leaders to conquer the enemy. For Nigeria, the average market woman, conductor, pure water seller etc., would gladly sell their votes for a bag of rice and 1000 Naira. It's not that they are not educated to know right from wrong but because selling their votes satisfies an immediate need, which is hunger!

If there was widespread education there will be no such thing as hunger which will serve as a tool for erratic behaviors. We would have figured out how to live in an advanced society void of hunger. Hunger is still as a result of lack of education which denies the society the knowledge and technique required to improve their living standard. The more you quote me the more I will keep showing you how important education is as the foundation to build a great country.

ericsmith:
i agree with you when u say lack knowledge & policies to drive these nation , but as for health buhari is older than atiku but the old man campaigned daily all round nigeria, atiku could not, how many indomie youth can even go 4 rounds on there girlfriends not to talk of going round 36states in 2month n not break down.
i believe both buhari & atiku wonnt deliver but if you insist atiku is beta ,please justify it by atiku achievement in public offices. what are immense contribution as public office holder in nigeria history.
save me the epistle, o ! he is a successful businessman, becos common sense should tell anyone that nigerians handle public properties or offices differently from how they manage there personal businesses.

In my comment I mentioned that Atiku is not actually the best candidate. But due to the fact that the bulk of the people voting are not educated or enlightened enough to vote for the ideal candidate just because they feel they don't have a big name, why can't they at least vote for Atiku who is better in the sense that he is more knowledgeable and also have the big name they focus on? The fact that Atiku is more knowledgeable than Buhari makes him better because they knowledge is actually more important than any other thing. It's first priority.

abbey621:
I only agree with you partially. What's the use of education when you are dying of hunger, being intimidated at the polls and so on? APC studied the PDP model of election engineering and mastered it with full force. Elections are won not by educated or posh but by thugs and die hard hustlers who see their own lives as a worthy sacrifice for those politicians. It's a very sad state of mind......Very sad!

If Nigerians were actually educated there won't even be any thugs available to disrupt elections cos no one will stoop so low to engage in such. The masses and politicians themselves will all conduct themselves appropriately and elections will be free and fair. You see why I said education is vital? I don't mean school degrees here, I mean a modernized mindset.

Yinkagbo:
Better don't kill yourself educated man.....you are not talking about fela and sowore,you are talking about atiku should have been voted for and you call yourself educated man.

I stated in my post that Atiku is not actually the best candidate. The point I was trying to make is that even if Nigerians are so uneducated not to vote for the best candidates simply because they don't have a big name, why can't they at least vote for Atiku who is better than Buhari if actually they want to vote by big names. You didn't understand my post properly.

Naajjii:
Sir, I understand your frustration but Atiku is better than Buhari even though Buhari is not the best choice. We told you online poll analyst that actual voting is on the field not social media you won't listen. Tell me what infrastructure Atiku and PDP provided to Nigeria in 16yrs? Is it rail, good road network, health, agriculture? Other than sharing money to people is that what you call goid leadership? If you are educated.

I was already aware that the polls don't represent the true situation on ground because the bulk of the uneducated folks have no online presence. I already knew that the mass of uneducated citizens are the ones to decide the election so I am not surprised.

What about APC and what infrastructures did they put in place? This matter is not about APC or PDP. They are just the same political class switching parties. There is no difference between both of them. If you think APC is better than PDP or PDP better then APC then you are still far from realizing what's wrong with the country. I used this election to point out to everyone that lack of education is the root cause of the problems we have in this nation because a president who lacks knowledge and health can never be elected in a country filled with educated citizens.

sonature1:
It's not lack of education, sir
It's voter apathy.
Most people hitting likes and shares for Atiku have no PVC.
I can't believe that I was at my unit at 9am trying to vote for Atiku, and one idiot was asking for likes for Atiku on Nairaland.
I got angry and asked the fool to leave Nairaland and vote.
They think likes and shares win elections
Ndi iberibe!

That's because you don't know the true meaning of education. It's not about having school degrees. It's more about your mindset and how modernized it is. The difference between Nigeria and the more advanced nations is the mindset. How would you explain an unfit president getting so much votes and a second term? You think it's normal has nothing to do with the mindset and education of these people voting?

REDshouse:
if truly u are educated u won't queue behind a confirm thieve and ur president...

Even though Atiku is not the best choice but he is better than Buhari and had the best chance to remove Buhari than the other candidates.

Did you understand this part at all? You may ask for more details if you didn't.

This election has proven that the problem with Nigeria is not mainly caused by bad leaders as people always say, but a massive lack of education as the root cause. Every educated person knows that Buhari lacks the knowledge and health fittness to rule a country. But amazingly he is getting a second term. This can only happen when the masses are not educated. Atiku was winning the polls on social media because those who participated in the polls were the more educated Nigerians. Even though Atiku is not the best choice but he is better than Buhari and had the best chance to remove Buhari than the other candidates.

Lack of education is the biggest issue in this country and this country will never go anywhere as long as it remains like that. If Buhari can be reelected then it means rouges like Tinubu and Ameachi can also win an election in Nigeria as long as the masses are this uneducated. I have lost hope in this country.

theoldpretender:
I don't think they pay moderators.....

Ordinary moderators are not paid but there was a time a vacancy was posted for a super moderator entitled to receive a salary. I guess Lalasticlala is the person occupying the position.

Ekpekus:

This is preposterous.. and it shows an obvious malpractice here.. you can not categorically say not even 1 person voted the opposition. Even in Buhari's polling unit, the opposition had some votes.
For a PU for have that number (not ward o) then something is fishy

In Peter Obi's ward APC had some votes. In Igbo land for that matter where APC is more detested than anywhere else. Something is definitely fishy.

Josh44s:
Nobody should complain on Buhari second term because Nigerians who vote for him will get what they deserve. Should Buhari wins this election, I pity Nigerians who are voting for him.

Later people will say leaders are the problem when they are the ones installing the bad leaders. I have always believed lack of mindset education is what is killing this country.

Not enough evidence to show underage. It's just like seeing Aki and Pawpaw voting and you capture them and say underage boys are voting

ChiefAzubuike:
Already on my way to za polling unit to cast my vote for Kingsley Moghalu. Nigerians think outside the box. There is more for this country beyond APC and PDP. They just dey play una head like ping-pong.

The problem is the bulk illiterate northerners and the rest of the uneducated fellows. For these fellows it's a choice between Buhari or Atiku. Their votes are in the majority. Voting for anyone else beside Atiku will make it easier for Buhari to be relelected which is a big NO NO.

enemyofprogress:
I won't believe until it is 3AM tomorrow morning

Bro you need to wait till 6am sef.

Dukpe219egoyu:
Hi

Why are you begging people for patronage? If your baba thing works you wouldn't be here begging people to contribute something to your baba to make them to be rich. Why can't your baba make himself rich?

Because it's in Nigeria.

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hollywater:
Pussy money.

That's what jealous guys say when they see a rich woman.

Petersamuel8:
I don't think population is our problem in this country, China has a population of over 1.5 billion and they're doing great. God help this country

You are very wrong. Your comment is a dangerous one. Every country can not be like China so it will be foolish for Nigerians to procreate carelessly because they FEEL they will become like China. If you procreate carelessly and the country never advances it's going to be disastrous. It's better to be on the safe side by reducing your birthrate. Nigeria is overpopulated because it can't care for every citizen. It's not about the numbers. Even China inspite of the progress still feels the pains of their huge population and even wish the population was lesser. If you like born 7 kids, you will see hell.

alfaman3:
That airport just look like ashawo wey spread legs for a Love Machine.

Mtcheew. All these sex starved nairaland guys sef.