₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkiee:
1. That is impossible since the King of Heaven rather said all those who die without first being bornagain will perish in the grave --- cease to exist after death --- while those who were born-again in this life before death will sleep in their graves until He returns and judges their works before they are then ushered into either Heaven or Hell - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46

MightySparrow:
Do you mean Sexlam?

Pidaa:
May be God want to prove to u that life is more spiritual than physical so that u will know and change your mindset. Remember my flatmate in the University I usually told I have spiritual problem then one day he make an annoying statement that I should check myself that am not a strong christain that why marine keep attacking me and he can't be attack because he was a strong christain. To be sincere I was mad but I have to ignore. Then a certain day I told him we should pray together concerning my problem that two head is better than one head. After that prayer the marine Kingdom attack him with full force and he became afraid to pray for me.
Note: when ever you pray you attack the marine and the enemy must attack back that why the guy was attack when he pray for me. So my fellow nairaland people be spiritually equip before praying for people so that u won't regret it. Thank u

Steep:
yes if he continues in the truth of Jesus christ.

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

But again, he saved Christian does not go on to continue live in sin, this is because he is born of God.

So your answer is not because he sinned but if he does or not continue in christ.

Kobojunkiee:
So you have absolutely no proof since your conclusion is that Jesus Christ lied in stating that there is evidence to prove one is in fact born-again. Essentially, you are only born-again by mouth like many of your comrades in Christianity. Good to know!

Kobojunkiee:

Again, what proof do you have that you are born-again — born of water and born of the spirit?

Or are you also saying Jesus Christ is a liar?

Kobojunkiee:

Again, what proof do you have that you are born-again — born of water and born of spirit?

These things are not of mental assent or con(-fidence) of your pastors and mogs. Those who are born-again according to Christ's specifications have proof of the event. And that proof is undeniable by those who have Him and those around Him. So what proof do you have?

Kobojunkiee:
1. What proof do you have that you are born-again? Every utterance from you rings like something from one who has never known God. Why?

2. What was the cross that Jesus Christ gave to you when you accepted Him, supposedly when you became born-again?

Kobojunkie:
The spirit of life lives inside of man from his birth? Then what was the point or need for Jesus Christ?

Esope6320:
Oponu, go and ask the British that gave you religion

Dunionk30:
I'm sure if you were an Atheist Turned to Christian ,by now you would have had someone mention he or she wants to help you.

But quite funny, No Atheist not even a single one that might have read your Matter have offered to talk about help here ..Chai! Does it means that Atheist does not help one another?

U are on your own Oooo, Be like say Atheist are all heartless. .Maybe they sent you a message off here...

Emir8:
But the Bible says death cannot separate us from God:
Rom.8.38-39 - For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Rom.8.39 - Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.Yes death cannot separate us from God but it is only those that die on Christ. You cannot commit suicide and be with God in heaven

Emir8:
Someone posted this question in a telegram group I'm part of.
Many people responded that whoever commits suicide is going to hell. However, I did a little research on it by asking Google. I was surprised to see in the articles written by foreign religious leaders that suicide doesn't take anyone to hell and they supported their views with a lot of verses from the Bible.

As a Nigerian, do you think suicide take anyone to hell?

GeeM:
Life doesn't end, it is u and i that will end one day not the world

wenogodie2:
So if you believe in the finished work of Jesus for the cleansing of your sins but you still commit fornication and other sins will you make heaven?

Kobojunkie:
I am bored, so let's break this down a bit. Let's in fact see what Paul said in the passage you referenced. Notice in the above context that Paul says absolutely nothing of those who were not caught up in the air being Evil or anything of the sort you lot like to imagine? To assume that all those who are not caught up in this catching up described are evil beings is ridiculous, and of lie. It will also be equally ridiculous from what is written to assume that all those who were caught up are Good people, again, since Paul never in fact stated this to be the case.

Kobojunkie:
Again, Stop allowing these mogs and pastors to continue dicking around in your brains with their bunkum for Pete's sake!

Kobojunkie:
Stop allowing these mogs and pastors to continue dicking around in your brains for Pete's sake!

Jokanem:
Who Go to Heaven?

God selects a limited number of faithful Christians who, after their death, will be resurrected to life in heaven. (1 Peter 1:​3, 4)

Once they have been chosen, they must continue to maintain a Christian standard of faith and conduct in order not to be disqualified from receiving their heavenly inheritance.​—Ephesians 5:5; Philippians 3:​12-​14.

What will those who go to heaven do there?

They will serve alongside Jesus as kings and priests for 1,000 years. (Revelation 5:​9, 10; 20:6)

They will form the “new heavens,” or heavenly government, that will rule over the “new earth,” or earthly society.

Those heavenly rulers will help restore mankind to the righteous conditions that God originally intended.​—Isaiah 65:17; 2 Peter 3:​13.

How many will be resurrected to heaven?

The Bible indicates that 144,000 people will be resurrected to heavenly life. (Revelation 7:4)

In the vision recorded at Revelation 14:​1-3, the apostle John saw “the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000.”

In this vision, “the Lamb” represents the resurrected Jesus. (John 1:​29; 1 Peter 1:​19)

“Mount Zion” represents the exalted position of Jesus and the 144,000 who rule with him in the heavens.​—Psalm 2:6; Hebrews 12:22.

Those “who are called and chosen” to rule with Christ in the Kingdom are referred to as a “little flock.” (Revelation 17:14; Luke 12:32)

This shows that they would be relatively few in comparison with the complete number of Jesus’ sheep.​—John 10:16.

Misconceptions about those who go to heaven

1) Misconception: All good people go to heaven.

Fact: God promises everlasting life on earth for most good people.​—Psalm 37:11, 29, 34.

Jesus said: “No man has ascended into heaven.” (John 3:​13)

He thus showed that good people who died before him, such as Abraham, Moses, Job, and David, did not go to heaven. (Acts 2:​29, 34)

Instead, they had the hope of being resurrected to life on earth.​—Job 14:13-​15.

The resurrection to heavenly life is called “the first resurrection.” (Revelation 20:6) This indicates that there will be another resurrection. It will be an earthly one.

The Bible teaches that under the rule of God’s Kingdom, “death will be no more.” (Revelation 21:​3, 4) This promise must apply to the earth, since death has never existed in heaven.

2) Misconception: Each person chooses whether he or she will receive life in heaven or on earth.

Fact: God determines which faithful Christians receive “the prize of the upward call,” that is, the hope of heavenly life. (Philippians 3:​14) Personal desire or ambition has no bearing on a person’s being chosen.​—Matthew 20:20-​23.

3) Misconception: The hope of everlasting life on earth is an inferior one, offered only to those not worthy of going to heaven.

Fact: God calls those who will receive everlasting life on earth “my people,” “my chosen ones,” and “those blessed by Jehovah.” (Isaiah 65:21-​23)

They will have the privilege of fulfilling God’s original purpose for humankind​—everlasting life in perfection on a paradise earth.​—Genesis 1:​28; Psalm 115:16; Isaiah 45:18.

4) Misconception: The number 144,000 mentioned in Revelation is symbolic, not literal.

Fact: Although Revelation contains symbolic numbers, some of the numbers it uses are literal.

For example, it speaks of “the 12 names of the 12 apostles of the Lamb.” (Revelation 21:14) Consider the evidence for concluding that the number 144,000 should likewise be taken literally.

Revelation 7:4 records “the number of those who were sealed [or, confirmed for life in heaven], 144,000.”

In the immediate context of this verse, a second group is contrasted: “a great crowd, which no man was able to number.” Those of the “great crowd” also receive salvation from God. (Revelation 7:​9, 10) If the number 144,000 were symbolic, referring instead to a group without number, then the contrast between the two groups would be lost.

In addition, the 144,000 are described as being “bought from among mankind as firstfruits.” (Revelation 14:4) The expression “firstfruits” refers to a small representative selection. It aptly describes those who will rule in heaven with Christ over an undetermined number of subjects on earth.​—Revelation 5:​10.

In conclusion not all good people go to heaven same as not everyone are rulers but only those selected by Jehovah god.The subject being the greater number will live here on Earth. The problems facing humans today on Earth would be eradicated.

Mission2prosper:
Why fight when you can command them if you are truly born again.

Aonkuuse:
it is plenty here in Benue but it is in Bags and bulk

Joeev:
It's really disturbing that no one wants to talk about this. It's just as if they don't know what is coming

Joeev:
I'm wondering why Nigerians are keeping mute about the removal of fuel subsidy.. Fuel prices are projected to rise to around ₦800 naira a litre cheapest, that's a 300% increase from ₦200, diesel prices to ₦900. It's not just about knowing the numbers, do you guys know the amount of damage this will cause? It's will be catastrophic if they do this.

Removal of fuel subsidy in its entirety isn't bad at all, but not just at this point, not this time, it's like someone pulling the plug of a life support machine on a man who's struggling to breathe. When this subsidy is removed, the government will have excess money, and we know what excess money in the hands of politicians mean, if the little they have for us they still steal, how much more when they have excess?

I'm just trying to make common sense here, we need to put away our tribalism and religious differences and come together and think!

How many poor Nigerians can afford a loaf of bread at ₦600 now let alone when it gets to ₦1000 after the removal of fuel subsidy because prices of things will go up exponentially. In addition to the greed of the middlemen, who will use this as an excuse to inflate, the prices will spiral beyond control. Businesses that cannot cope with the cost of running will close down, workers who are working earning the minimum wage will essentially finish their salaries on just transportation alone.

This is not a doomsday article, this will be our reality if we let this happen.

The IMF said removal of fuel subsidy is a great idea and should be done without hesitation, we know the IMF, they always have sinister plans. They gave the government a loan of 800million dollars to be distributed amongst poor Nigerians, they know quite well this money will be stolen, if it gets to upto even 500,000 poor Nigerians, that would be very good of them, but it wouldn't.

You have 800million dollars to give, why don't you ensure they use this money to revive our refineries? Which will create more jobs, alongside the Dangote refinery waiting for completion. This would dampen the effect of the removal of this subsidy, not only that, it would be perfect for the economy, but no, now this money will even make the govt hurry up with their plans.
No wonder people are trying to flee this country every minute!

And the politicians aren't speaking up about this subsidy and I'm sure you know why.

Can we afford to let this happen to us??

Please seun, lalasticlala mynd44, rockfarano move this to the front page, so our people can be aware

MaxInDHouse:
Apart from the Almighty God everything else has a beginning that's why the Bible refer to Jesus Christ as the first to be born during creation! Colossians 1:15
After God created him they both spend quality time together like a father and His son until his father decided to make other things which will serve as property or inheritance for God's only begotten Son. God wants His Son to happily participate in this great work that's how Jesus (as a spirit creature) became like a master worker beside his father {Proverbs 8:30} John the apostle wrote about Jesus saying:
In the beginning the word was there, he was with God and he was the person who came to represent God like a god! John 1:1 compare to Exodus 7:1
He was the only person with God in the beginning so nothing we see today came into existence in his absence! John 1:2-3

Later His father used him to create many things including angels in heaven all of them are like sons to the Almighty {Job 38:7} but this firstborn became their commander that's why he is referred to as the Archangel. His spirit name before earthly mission is Michael.

Though many do feel he couldn't be called an angel but all other heavenly sons of God are referred to as angels (messengers) so when his father SENT him to the earth to deliver a life saving message Bible scholars agreed that Jesus (Michael) is also one of God's messengers (angels)

But that's not what we need to learn about him rather all we need is the model he came to set as standard for mankind! 1Peter 2:21

That's why his earthly name and the personality he built is most important to anyone who wants to be saved! John 3:16