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NaijaCowFarm:
Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!

The most myopic assessment I have ever read this year.

I don't understand how in your wildest imagination you cannot see the writing on the wall already. All the odds favor Tinubu. He has Lagos and Kano delegates in his pocket. He has been endorsed by the National Assembly both active and former. The House are in his armpit. He doesn't need to give anyone money to vote him, he did that last election, majority of the Hoyse of Reps from APC he sponsored....
The only person that can defeat him in the APC is Buhari, the last time I checked, he is not contesting.
The primaries will be done very quickly. Tinubu will easily be victorious.

hope4nigeria:
TINUBU of 2007 is different from poopoo TINUBU of today.

Well you are quite wrong. Tinubu now has more network throughout the geopolitical regions in the Country. Tinubu now has a deeper pocket, he donates N50,000,000 loke ot is N10,000. He gave N1 billion to LASU.

Tinubu now is dangerously rich with stronger political affinities with who that matters.

hope4nigeria:
you don't understand fulani game plan do you? Pray heart attack don't kill TINUBU

Heart Attack!!

Ewu!!

Have you forgotten Tinubu single handedly defeated OBJ when OBJ was poised to capture Lagos with all the federal might of the presidency and military. We all know the outcome.

if Tinubu can deal a decisive blow to the Presidency and federal gladiators, how much more Osibanjo?

farem:
#BREAKING

Jubilation erupts in Kano...

Just 70 people ?

Those are not delegates. Osibanjo will need the Governors blessing to win Kano.

He just shot himself on the foot by his declaration. He is not a politician, now he wants to toggle it against seasoned politicians.

Lets wait and see

Truthisunique2:
But let's pretend we aren't pained after daring osinbajo not to be a traitor to his benefactor

The only time tinubu says he has a life long ambition you couldn't swallow your own and amplify his own with a support

Honestly, I am not even bothered by Osinbajos declaration. He cannot win the primaries. If he fails to win the primaries then he would have lost all moral grounds to see Tinubu eye to eye.

aviara:
Tinubu has allies all over, but its unfortunate his allies can't help him secure APC ticket because the cabals that control Nigeria's politics have rejected him. Its a pity Tinubu will not be different from Awolowo and MKO

Neophyte!!
Cabal cannot control primary elections that produces Presidential candidates. Rather, political allies and network are the major factors that produces such candidates.
Tinubu has the broad range and resources to emerge the preferred candidate.

buckeyemedia:
Nobody is giving Tinubu anything, if it is a South West candidate it must be Osinbajo, South South Amaechi, South East Ogbonna Onu.

Dreamer!!

Osinbajo is not declaring. Tinubu remains APC strongest politician that controls the largest political block along the geopolitical regions in Nigeria.

ityP:
Obasanjo lost ALL south west states except Ekiti in the 1999 elections. Dude even lost his OWN state disgracefully. He still went ahead to win with a high margin. Amaechi can lose Rivers. No one send. As long as the north votes him, fine

Joker!!

1999 is not now. Amaechi cannot win in any state in Nigeria. If he is chosen big weights like Tinubu will leave APC, which will mean the end of APC.

ityP:
See declaration o. No be campaign. Lmao. Best presidential declaration yet. Dude is special

Wait until you see Tinubu's declaration.

Bastardlyrich:
But buhari has chosen him and once he is declared president,any one that makes noise by protest or propaganda will be sent to life imprisonment.
Nigeria must work and amaechi/obi or atiku will improve nigeria.
Nigerians have rejected the dwarves and his God the irritating pee poos man thievenybu.
Good morning :De go clear for your eyes soon when cra win.

Clown!! Amaechi that cannot win in his own ward?

Only a slowpoke will anoint him as APC candidate. How many states does he control?

MonkeyMods:
I reserve my comment for now

I said it...it's only in the North he shows his philanthropic skills


What of families his toll gate brouhaha killed?

My advice to this man is to jejely enter house and mentor younger presidential candidates


But ojukokoro will not permit him to see clearly

PS: I don't open mentions so no need making an idiot out of yourself. We moveeeee

Olodo!!

Tinubu donated N1 billion to LASU recently on Youth Empowerment and development. Is that the North?

Ignoramus!!

Noccerino:
He has 70% loyalty amongst the yorubas in the southwest, but we all know yoruba doesn't make up 70% of southwest.
So the answer is NO

Silly boy. Don't confuse Lagos with SW. Yoruba population in Oyo, Ogun, Ondo, Ekiti, Osun are 87%, 92%, 96%, 97% and 97% respectively.

And again Tinubu has the Governor of Kano, Niger, Zamfara, Bornu states in his Camp.

Wailer!!

1nigeriamyfoot:
Yinmu

Just wait n see

If you utter this gibberish in the face of common man in Lagos, they will skin you alive

2023 is just by the corner my friend.

PlayMaker14:
Lol, look at this one, you think say everybody na zombie? If zombies like you accept the leaking pipe as your president, then good luck.

On the contrary, if sincere and rational people like me can see well grounded facts established in the achievements and capacity of a detribalized Nigerian (Tinubu) and state my position regardless of tribal sentiments, or political affiliation....

I live in Sapele, no connection with APC or Tinubu. Yet I give credit to whom credit is due. Unlike you, drenched in hate and delusional in ignorance. Your positions reek of sentiments.

PlayMaker14:
Lover of a urinating presidential candidate, when you're done, kindly shut up and move ahead.


Vwé Kobiruó

Mark my words Tinubu will be your next president. And I will see you ranting and whining as usual on nairaland.

Aiel123:

Is it not possible

Time will tell!!

MilitantAtheist:
Which legacy did Tinubu make for everyone to see? Godfatherism over Lagos State politics is the legacy? What kind of messed up thinking do you have? You claim to be "very sincere" yet you avoid my question. SW obj has been president for 8 years, SW Osinbajo is vice president for 8 years by next year but SE not getting a single shot and Niger Delta did 6 years remaining 4. Democracy is about sincerity and inclusiveness of all people. So where is the sincerity in supporting another SW candidate again to the detriment of others??. Tinubu legacy or whatever it is starts and ends in Lagos, Edo2020 showed where his influence ends, nobody gives a damn about him in Delta except people like you who are far below the schemes of Delta State Affairs. Just tell me what is sincere about depriving SS her remaining 4 year term or south east their first chance. Even Atiku will defeat tinubu everywhere in SS n SE You're not sincere, you're a fake person and hypocrite who is only after your selfish interest. You probably dating one of those Yoruba boys who has been brainwashing you. Answer my question on SS n SE or swerve

If OBJ with all his political might could not wrestle it out with Tinubu, that ought to tell you how influential he is.

The point is OBJ underestimated Tinubu, just the way you are doing, but at the end..... We all know the story. Even GEJ underestimated Tinubu.

So my dear. Enough said, let's wait and see. And may God spare us to see 2023 and beyond.

PlayMaker14:
My friend, go and sit your ass down and concentrate on Keeping Up With The Kardashians... Miss Political Science Graduate my left yansh...

Paying one of their major financier a visit at his death bed does not in anyway mean he is their concensus candidate, as a matter of fact, they're making a mockery of your urinating lover.

Having said that, I will advise you to shut up and focus on your female TV program.

Take a look at this bush boy and his jaguda politics. Day dreamer. Abeg go self-service yourself!!

Aiel123:
SS even though in opposition can still align with the north. Have you consider that

Wishful thinking my brother.

MilitantAtheist:
I'm still surprised how you can advocate for such a tribalistic man who don't care about your people's interest. Democracy also involve power rotation within all parties. What is sincere about 8years SW presidency with Obasanjo, 8 years vice president term of Osinbajo when south east is yet to get presidency or vice for the past 23 years? Well it's unfortunate they're not good in politics enough but if you must talk of sincerity on this issue, is allow Niger Delta to finish up our remaining 4 year term or collectively support a SE candidate. This is what you should ordinarily consider if you are talking of sincerity. However I want to assure you now that Tinubu will not get our party ticket. The NEC has resolved for a consensus option, have a good heart and behave like a Delta Central person you claim to be.

I am not sentimental. My position is based on the Legacy Tinubu has made for everyone to see. I am a very sincere person and I call a ♠️ a ♠️

MilitantAtheist:
are you a Deltan, pls be sincere

Yes from Sapele. I am only being sincere.

MilitantAtheist:
why will you call yourself my own Delta Princess yet you support Tinubu? You better remove Delta from your lame and failed activities of tinubu

Tinubu is a visionary leader and talent hunter. He has raised leaders of outstanding pedigree. I don't think there is anyone alive who can match him.

Aiel123:
I'm sure you know that the SS can give the north the required constitutional spread.

Last time I checked, the SS is in the opposition

fubsy:
If you regard yourself as a human being with sense and conscience, you don't need a Tinubu to place your hand on any party on your ballot paper. Your conscience should direct your decision. Tinubu only has one vote. Yes, he will spend money to buy your conscience. But will you sell your conscience? Those that sell their consciences because of money are the enemies of themselves.

Name one Governor that has outperformed Tinubu?

PlayMaker14:
Experience nematode, whether you are from the SW region or from my state, that doesn't take away the daft and ignorant political sickness you're suffering from.... Influential you say? Is your urinating lover called Tinubu known in the SE, NW and NC region?

You see the “formidable campaign” you're ignorantly talking about? It's just a way of financiallysucking the Iragbiji born cocaine dunce dry and disposing him like a prostitute at Enerhren junction.

His influence only ends at Osun, Ogun, Ondo and Lagos.

Get cured of the chronic ignorance syndrome you're currently battling with.

We have the Governor of Kano state as one of his major campaigners. Kano state alone constitute more than all the number of votes in the South East.
We also have former Governor of Bornu state as a major player in his campaign. The Governor of Niger state from the NC pledged his support. Also the Governor of Zamfara state.

You are just blind by sentiments, hence your poor, rashly but erratic position on thus topic.

Tinubu has deep roots in the North. Remember the Northern caucus of House of Reps members paid him a visit in London, one of them called him Mr President.

Insult Tinubu all you want, he will attain his life long ambition. While you will be confined to whining.

Odin13:
This man is not understanding Buhari.. he was sneaking the Yoruba style, forgetting say Buhari Na former intel. Baba corner am.
.. and for him to believe say Na hype sef

He’s been hearing names .. . Tinubu is not even sure of this Contest

They’re blunt no mean say .. they no go hear wetin you wan talk.. this Yoruba people dey reason .. They disappointed you by not playing gods ..unlike you with your people

Rest Na bla’s

Someone should tell Tinubu he’s constesting for the office of the President.. not some Yoruba people obaship ..

... and then finally after looting and blundering Lagos state .. he wants to plunder and pillage Nigeria

Charity begins at home ..
Ogun
Ekiti
Osun
Oyo r
Are all poverty stricken states.. yet this Tinubu have not donated to the people of this state .. infrastructure or something of legacy to his people.. knowing how tribalist ..
Na Nigerians and Nigeria he wan work

Yoruba man

Tribalistic Tinubu Must Contest



Must

Olodo!!

Yusufisraelj:
Politically none, but the context here is about those who can make sure you win weda you're known or not.

If you think tinubu can succeed without appropriate consultations, then I know you're joking. Even he himself knows that, without certain people behind him, his lifelong ambition will be in shambles.

What has Tinubu been doing since?

Can't you see that he is the only Presidential aspirant consulting aggressively?

He understands the game and he knows how to play it perfectly.

Remember he continues to say, this is my life long ambition...

The most important ambition in his career.

na2016:

Stop allowing your tribe makes you say rubbish. go and read my comment well.

I am not Yoruba, FYI.

Toktee:
Abeg na lie jare na God him be?

He is not God but a seasoned politician.

Franking:
You are the one who doesn't know politics. You are just a Tinubu nyashlicker so u will say anything. Why is Oyo governed by the PDP? Or didn't he point to the APC for them?

Make we dey look.

I am non-partisan. Secondly, I am not from the SW. I am a graduate of Political Science and a keen Political observer. I am an ardent student of History, who say things on facts and sincerity.

Make we dey look!!

beejay85:
You have called at least 2 people confused...
Don't you think the confused one here is you?

How is it me?

They continue to see things from their delusional perspective, hence their utter confusion in politics.

Gentlerespect76:
Southwest alone can not give Tinubu presidency. Just as any person from another zone would need Southwest support, so does Southwest need other zones support to make it. People should stop showing how stupid they think others are so that we can have less bickering and acrimony not only on this platform but also in the country at large.

Talking about stupidity..... Only a one can assume or infer SW alone can give Tinubu the presidency.

I am tired of reading how dense people are. Tinubu is the National Leader of APC, he controls the most states in the SW. As at now, he is the most influential Politician in APC. His stake in the SW and his cross over appeal the North have for him makes him the most formidable candidate.