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dedeike: classical evidence of joblessness. It is obvious that somebody who is gainfully employed will not sit down to write this gossip about BEAF by 9.30 am.

Please grow up. Age is no longer on your side. I appreciate that your means of livelihood depends on how much blackmail you spin on Nairaland but when you are reduced to joining issues about the whereabouts of another man, who probably is on his legitimate business elsewhere, you lower your reputation in the estimation of right thinking members of this forum and reinforce the consensus that BEAF IS A NAIRALAND LEGEND[/s]

dedeike: As usual, weak minds discuss people while great minds like Beaf discuss issues.
BEAF, I hail you. Even old fools like Gbawe and DEMDEM are so jobless that they have dedicated a whole thread to gossip about you

jonnycheddars: Minister shld take a bus? Hmmmmmm.......just like in some countries.

PointB: ^^^
Basically, you stuck to your guns. For my reply, re-read what I wrote earlier. This time slowly!

PointB: @Demdem, the problem with your analysis is the fixation with the current practice. You seem to base your argument on the premises that things will not change! But you forget quite easily that the state creation will be part of the constitution amendment. As such obstacles will be eased out, slowly but surely. In any case the vulture is a patient bird!

Demdem: We obviously need a lawyer at this juncture. There are some things NASS simply cant amend in the constitution. it will involve going through all the states before it can be ratified. This issue falls into such. if u base ur hope on the basis that this constitutional process of creating states will have to change before u get ur states then u are basically saying that u want it to be re-written which the advocates of SNC are really calling for.

PointB: @Demdem, the problem with your analysis is the fixation with the current practice. You seem to base your argument on the premises that things will not change! But you forget quite easily that the state creation will be part of the constitution amendment. As such obstacles will be eased out, slowly but surely. In any case the vulture is a patient bird!

We obviously need a lawyer at this juncture. There are some things NASS simply cant amend in the constitution. it will involve going through all the states before it can be ratified. This issue falls into such. if u base ur hope on the basis that this constitutional process of creating states will have to change before u get ur states then u are basically saying that u want it to be re-written which the advocates of SNC are really calling for.


And why are you bringing Tinubu into this matter, I thought you lots argued he is a private citizen? Is he a private citizen when you desire, and powerful politician when it suits you? Guy, careful, you are edging closer to your boss, AC.N laptop #1, in hypocrisy!

Tinubu being undoubtedly influential person politically especially in the SW region doesnt change the fact that he is a private citizen. He is his party's cheiftain and can influence policies within the party. hate him or love him, his support will be needed to influence the ACN SW assemblies in acheiving ur aim. Ignore it to ur peril


Anyway, I'll let you into something you so called intelligentsia often fail to understand about Tinubu. Tinubu's past and present makes him very susceptible to blackmail, that is why he is left to roam around. You count on him at your own peril, if in doubt ask Ribadu. Obj is overrated, in reach and influence! Exactly who rely on him these days? Pray, say!

exactly my only issue with ur kind. peddling words u will claim as facts but when called upon to substantiate, u go cold. ur allegation against Tinubu has no basis. wont want us to dwell on that on this thread though. its diversionary.
Obj may be overrated but like i said earlier, he is still influential even within the killer party.


The cold war between SS and SE, I suppose is a figment of your imagination, guy SE/SS have never been more united; and seeing the benefit of the unity, it can on continue on a roll!

u think so Anyway, i have been residing in the SS region for close to a decade now till date and in all honesty i know what i am talking about. Ur best chances still remain with the SS people though no matter what.

As for the middle belt, I doubt you qualify to talk for them. They certainly know what they want, and can articulate it!

U certainly dont know what they want and where there votes will lie. Thats a fact. what we all know is what we hear them say which i also echoed which is their desire also to have another state of theirs (of cos they also have their own good reasons). u tell me why they will sacrifice theirs for urs?

SW, will have to choose it friends wisely, as every region is finding the region unreliable as partner, time is running out!

Majority of SW has decided what they want which is against what u desire which is to be with ACN and of cos Tinubu comes to the picture again much to ur hate. i only gave u a taste of what to expect. they are basically asking all other regions to go ffuck off with PDP they dont give a damn about what other regions think of them as long as they are forging ahead. and surely they are.

Its good to know that u are not even thinking of any support from the north for ur new state, at least we both agree on that. U tell me where the majority will come from now

k2039: why you just telling us now.
Why didnt you scream out immediately you to the oath of office.

SMH for our politicains(always blaming the past administration for their own present failures)

PointB: Impossibility is defeatist. And it is only those who don't think out the box that tout that term these days! How did your hausa master sign up to the Onshore - Offshore derivative principle? How did GEJ, a minority, become President, how was Obj edged out of PDP? Dude, leave these talks of 'impossibility' to thugs and area boys! If there is one thing we all know, it is that, in Nigeria every is possible, it only take time! I won't be shocked if the two states ends up in the SE.

Besides, we SE can get the new state(s) and still get the constitution review achieved for equity. This is Nigeria!

An Act of the National Assembly for the purpose of creating a new State shall only be passed if-

(a) a request, supported by at least two-thirds majority of members (representing the area demanding the creation of the new State) in each of the following, namely -

(i) the Senate and the House of Representatives,

(ii) the House of Assembly in respect of the area, and

(iii) the local government councils in respect of the area,

is received by the National Assembly;

(b) a proposal for the creation of the State is thereafter approved in a referendum by at least two-thirds majority of the people of the area where the demand for creation of the State originated;

(c) the result of the referendum is then approved by a simple majority of all the States of the Federation supported by a simple majority of members of the Houses of Assembly; and

(d) the proposal is approved by a resolution passed by two-thirds majority of members of each House of the National Assembly.

Onlytruth: I guess one can also wonder why Yorubas are the most aggrieved and agitated by Goodluck Jonathan's presidency.
The most derogatory names given to GEJ has been by you for example.

Joeadamu86: jealousy......

for accursed u nuts.

wesley80: You can say that again! I guess the funnest part of it all is knowing the goons are walking in daily terror knowing Beaf is watching and praying he doesnt pounce on them at their weakest moment. You bet their morning prayer eachday is 'Oh 'Lord, Pls Keep him away another day'. Well, the dude sure knows how to make an entry so guys, pls stay watchful!

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PointB: I understand your POV, however, granting an extra state or two to the SE does not in anyway dilute the fact that true federalism is still very much desirable and on the deck! As far as I am concerned, additional state in the SE can even help with the pursuit of the beautiful things we all want! Politics is a game of number, evening the odds are very critical in negotiation. SE has been grossly marginalised in state creation, if correcting this imbalance, is within our reach, we will grab it will our arms, and being! This is Nigeria! As per some people, not being happy about not getting a state, I can assure, it will also be like that for a while. Ask Ijebu people, I am sure they will say so. But like must go own.

On that note, I couldn't care less which part of the SE/SS the new state(s) is/are carved out, provided it is designated SE! Chikena!

PointB: Well, I can't understand why you think the North will readily agree to true federalism based on the current geopolitical region. Perhaps you want to educate me on that?

PointB: Impossibility is defeatist. And it is only those who don't think out the box that tout that term these days! How did your hausa master sign up to the Onshore - Offshore derivative principle? How did GEJ, a minority, become President, how was Obj edged out of PDP? Dude, leave these talks of 'impossibility' to thugs and area boys! If there is one thing we all know, it is that, in Nigeria every is possible, it only take time! I won't be shocked if the two states ends up in the SE.

Besides, we SE can get the new state(s) and still get the constitution review achieved for equity. This is Nigeria!

bayooooooo: While are you wasting your time on this? Some folks like deceiving themselves. I am even shocked to my marrow no one has checked the provisions of the constitution to know if GEJ can truly create a state. Do the maths, SE can only get a state if the North approves no matter what GEJ thinks or wants to do. A president who can not change Unilag name to Maulag wants to create a new state? I dey laugh.




I think the entire South should just focus on abolishing the 1999 constitution. Let's press for SNC and have a rebirth of new Nigeria. SE will not get a new state if 1999 constitution remains the highest law of the land irrespective of whatever lies and propaganda GEJ's sycophantic apologists are dishing out.

Bukkyade: . I expected this post from you, you are the person thinking backwards here ooo. GEJ carry go jaare.

samkoro: Let there be equity in the begging so that when the time for scrapping comes,it will be equitably scrapped

Johndoe100: Sorry, did you say something? ]I am always amazed when I read anything written by you. Were you droped on your head as a young child? Or is your retardation congenital?

Onlytruth: The day will come when all the states will depend on their resources in geopolitical region basis or even state basis. For now, all the zones must be equal before we can move forward.
Thanks for explaining.

Cupidkc: Just curious...what made you think so?

Onlytruth: Some of you just can't seem to get over your hangups. Do you know that conspiracies don't last for ever? That soon, someone will start saying the truth for once in Nigeria, and do the right thing? Do you know that no other geopolitical zone in Nigeria deserves any state than SE? Do you know that if anyone is serious about keeping Nigeria together, that SE MUST get at least ONE state?

Honestly, your consolation is misplaced and if you don't repent, you will not be happy WHEN (not if) that SE state is created.

afam4eva: Why don't we stop collecting state allocations from Abuja since we're fighting for regionalism. We shouldn't do anything again because we're clamoring for regionalism.

marabout: .

Who will listen? We keep creating unsustainable states, getting hand-out from Abuja,

Elueme: I don't think state creation will substitute the agitation for true federalism.. Let's thrive to balance the inequality while we proceed for our call for regional govt or true federalism.

afam4eva: It's a backward step because it does not favour you, okwa ya?